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Title: The Passing of the Libertarian Moment
Source: theatlantic.com/
URL Source: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/04/defused/556934/
Published: Apr 2, 2018
Author: KEVIN D. WILLIAMSON
Post Date: 2018-07-05 21:45:54 by Gatlin
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Views: 13778
Comments: 110

The end of the Cold War and the rise of Donald Trump have left classical liberals without a political home.

Senator Rand Paul is a man out of time. It was only a few years ago that the editors of Reason magazine held him up as the personification of what they imagined to be a “libertarian moment,” a term that enjoyed some momentary cachet in the pages of The New York Times, The Atlantic, Politico (where I offered a skeptical assessment), and elsewhere. But rather than embodying the future of the Republican Party, Paul embodies its past, the postwar conservative era when Ronald Reagan could proclaim that “the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism,” when National Review founder William F. Buckley Jr. could publish a conspectus of his later work under the subtitle “Reflections of a Libertarian Journalist,” and young blue- blazered Republicans of the Alex P. Keaton variety wore out their copies of Milton Friedman’s Free to Choose.

The view from 2018 is rather different. The GOP finds itself in the throes of a populist convulsion, an ironic product of the fact that the party that long banqueted on resentment of the media now is utterly dominated by the alternative media constructed by its own most dedicated partisans. It is Sean Hannity’s party now.

The GOP’s political situation is absurd: Having rallied to the banner of an erratic and authoritarian game-show host, evangelical leaders such as Jerry Falwell Jr. are reduced to comparing Donald Trump to King David as they try to explain away his entanglement with pornographic performer Stormy Daniels. Those who celebrated Trump the businessman clutch their heads as his preposterous economic policies produce terror in the stock markets and chaos for the blue-collar workers in construction firms and manufacturers scrambling to stay ahead of the coming tariffs on steel and aluminum. The Chinese retaliation is sure to fall hardest on the heartland farmers who were among Trump’s most dedicated supporters.

On the libertarian side of the Republican coalition, the situation is even more depressing: Republicans such as former Texas Governor Rick Perry, who once offered important support for criminal- justice reform, are lined up behind the atavistic drug-war policies of the president and Attorney General Jeff Sessions, whose big idea on opiate abuse is more death sentences for drug traffickers. Deficits are moving in the wrong direction. And, in spite of the best hopes of the “America First” gang, Trump’s foreign policy has not moved in the direction of Rand Paul’s mild non-interventionism or the more uncompromising non-interventionism of his father, Ron Paul. Instead, the current GOP foreign-policy position combines the self-assured assertiveness of the George W. Bush administration (and many familiar faces and mustaches from that administration) with the indiscipline and amateurism characteristic of Trump.

Some libertarian moment.

Postwar conservatism, under the intellectual leadership of Buckley, Frank Meyer, and their allies, was, famously, a “fusion”—an alliance between social and religious traditionalists, anti-Communists and national-security hawks, and libertarians ranging from ideologues and idealists such as Henry Hazlitt and Ludwig von Mises to Chamber of Commerce types with their more prosaic concerns about taxes and regulation. The libertarians have always been a junior partner in that alliance, but for many years they punched above their weight. Partly that is because libertarianism is an intellectual tendency rather than a cultural instinct, one that benefited from the rigor and prestige of the economists who have long been its most effective advocates. And libertarianism has benefited from the fact that American elites are notably more libertarian in their views than is the median American voter. That dynamic was explored by the economist Bryan Caplan under a typically bold title (“Why Is Democracy Tolerable?”) with a typically needling conclusion: “Democracies listen to the relatively libertarian rich far more than they listen to the absolutely statist non-rich … Democracy as we know it is bad enough. Democracy that really listened to all the people would be an authoritarian nightmare.”

But if libertarianism benefited from its rich friends, it surely benefited even more from its impoverished rivals: the Soviet Union, Castro’s Cuba, North Korea, Mao’s China, and other practitioners of robust étatism. Despite the best hopes of the postwar conservative fusionists, libertarianism has always been more effective in opposition than in government. President Reagan may have called himself a libertarian from time to time, but he also enacted protectionist tariffs, radically expanded the military and the federal police powers, and failed to exhibit a great deal of energy in resisting the deficit-swelling spending bills sent to his desk by Tip O’Neill. The libertarian tendency mainly provided a useful ideological foil, not only to the totalitarian socialist projects of the time but also to more liberal efforts to expand the welfare states in the Western democracies. If you are not moving in the direction of Milton Friedman, the argument went, then you are moving in the direction of Leonid Brezhnev—it’s Chairman Greenspan or Chairman Mao.

That was an effective rhetorical strategy while the Soviet Union was a going concern and while the Cold War remained fresh in the national memory. And it was enough to keep the right-wing coalition together. But as the memory of the USSR came to be replaced by the reality of NAFTA, WTO, ASEAN, etc., the fruits of globalism—everyday low prices at Walmart—turned out to be uninspiring to great masses of voters to whom those benefits are invisible for the same reason that water is invisible to fish. Ancient prejudices, including the prejudices against social relations with foreigners, began to reassert themselves, as did the expectation that government should take a paternal interest in the people rather than a merely administrative one. Libertarianism, with its emphasis on free trade, its deference to the market, and its hostility toward social-welfare programs, went quickly out of fashion. How quickly? Last week, my former National Review colleague Victor Davis Hanson published an essay calling for a stronger regulatory hand over high-tech companies, fondly recalling the “cultural revolution of muckraking and trust-busting” of the 19th century, and ending with a plea for “some sort of bipartisan national commission that might dispassionately and in disinterested fashion offer guidelines to legislators” about more tightly regulating these companies, perhaps on the public- utility model.

That from a magazine whose founders once dreamed of overturning the New Deal.

Libertarian attitudes enjoy some political support: Nick Gillespie, a true-believing libertarian, insists even in the teeth of the current authoritarian ascendancy that we still are experiencing a national— yes!—“libertarian moment,” based on Gallup polling data finding more support for broadly libertarian political sensibilities (27 percent) than for any other single group: conservative, liberal, or populist. But “libertarian” often means little more than “a person with right-leaning sensibilities who is embarrassed to be associated with the Republican Party.” (Hardly, these days, an indefensible position.) Libertarian sensibilities are popular because they enable the posture of above-it-all nonpartisanship, but libertarian policies, as Caplan and others have noted at length, are not very popular at all. Americans broadly and strongly support a rising minimum wage and oppose entitlement reform with at least equal commitment, and they are far from reliable supporters of free speech and free association or enforcing limits on police powers. Hence the peculiar fact that 2016 polling of Republican primary voters found self-identified libertarians backing the authoritarian Trump in remarkable numbers—59 percent in South Carolina—over more libertarian-leaning candidates such as Ted Cruz (17 percent in the same poll) or Marco Rubio (0 percent—ouch). By way of comparison, only 39 percent of self- identified independents backed Trump in that same South Carolina poll, 37 percent of self-identified Tea Party adherents, and 40 percent of voters in the oldest bracket (56-61). Self-described libertarians were not less likely to line up behind the authoritarian demagogue, but half-again as likely to do so. Self-professed libertarian voices such as Larry Elder have become abject Trumpists.

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#4. To: Gatlin (#0)

If the Libertarians could not obtain any traction against a GOP ticket of McCain/Palin, it seems their moment passed some time ago.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-07-05   22:54:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: nolu chan (#4)

If the Libertarians could not obtain any traction against a GOP ticket of McCain/Palin, it seems their moment passed some time ago.

The problem is that the election system we have in place is given to having only 2 dominating parties, regardless of what their political spins happen to be. Come election time, voters have a choice of voting for one of the 2 dominating parties, or throwing their votes away. Pluralist voting systems -- about the worst there is and what the US system is, of course, based on have that fatal flaw. It's as simple as that.

It's only with parliamentary election systems where people vote for a party instead of a person, does the 2-party monopoly (duopoly) not exist, as voting for a minor party does NOT constitute throwing a vote away, as voters are allied with similar vote sentiments across the whole country to take some seats in the legislative body.

IMO, "Approval voting", rather than a pluralist voting system, has the best chance of giving so called 3rd parties a chance to take root in the current US political system.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-07-05   23:27:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Pinguinite (#6)

It's only with parliamentary election systems where people vote for a party instead of a person, does the 2-party monopoly (duopoly) not exist, as voting for a minor party does NOT constitute throwing a vote away, as voters are allied with similar vote sentiments across the whole country to take some seats in the legislative body.

We do not have a parliamentary government and so we do not have parliamentary elections.

In the UK, they have the Labor Party and the Tories. When is the last time anyone else was in charge of the goverment?

Voting for an Independent is not throwing a vote away. If elected, he or she will caucus with one of the major parties. He or she can still only vote aye, nay, or present. If you know who he/she will caucus with, it's almost like voting Dem or GOP except the major party you least favor may win due to your vote.

Just having a few seats in the legislative body confers no power. Believe whatever they will, a party with a few seats lacks the power to enact anything.

Nations where five or six competitive parties are in an eternal struggle for power don't seem to work out so well. It is more like Game of Thrones than a well-functioning government.

There is nothing stopping the Libertarian party from rising to power except for the lack of popular support, and candidates who do not inspire support.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-07-06   12:08:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: nolu chan (#26)

We do not have a parliamentary government and so we do not have parliamentary elections.

Of course not. Others do, but not the USA.

Voting for an Independent is not throwing a vote away. If elected,

I can stop you right there. As long as the independent/3rd party candidate has no realistic chances of getting elected, then voting for him is, in practical terms, throwing a vote away.

Just having a few seats in the legislative body confers no power. Believe whatever they will, a party with a few seats lacks the power to enact anything.

Yes, of course a minor party in parliament or even in US congress can't "enact anything". But in a body where a majority IS required to get things passed, a minority presence does confer influencing power.

Nations where five or six competitive parties are in an eternal struggle for power don't seem to work out so well. It is more like Game of Thrones than a well-functioning government.

That's not to say a "well functioning government" is the virtuous best result for all people. Better to have a non functioning government than one that efficiently and carelessly enacts laws and pursues goals that trample rights and destroy its society.

I would not argue a parliamentary system is the beth system in that regard. To the contrary I'm sure it has plenty of flaws. But it does have the advantage of giving it's citizens more than 2 practical choices of political parties.

There is nothing stopping the Libertarian party from rising to power except for the lack of popular support, and candidates who do not inspire support.

I disagree, as I articulated previously. Our vote system largely prevents any 3rd parties, whether libertarians or others, from gaining a foothold. If the L's & D's were in power, the R's would have the same problem. The end result: libertarians like Ron Paul utilize the R party as a vehicle to get elected.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-07-06   12:22:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Pinguinite (#28)

As long as the independent/3rd party candidate has no realistic chances of getting elected, then voting for him is, in practical terms, throwing a vote away.

They can get elected to the House or Senate. There they caucus with the Dems or GOP. They have no power to get anything done by themselves.

That's not to say a "well functioning government" is the virtuous best result for all people. Better to have a non functioning government than one that efficiently and carelessly enacts laws and pursues goals that trample rights and destroy its society.

Identify an historical example of a non-functioning government which has served a country well.

The U.S. government under the Articles of Confederation was not very functional. That union of 13 states was dissolved and an 11 state union replaced it. Eventually, the two missing states joined the new union.

But it does have the advantage of giving it's citizens more than 2 practical choices of political parties.

How is the advantage of that a given fact? What is the advantage?

If the L's & D's were in power, the R's would have the same problem.

The R's only date back to 1854. Others had a long head start on them. 1860 saw the Republican Party get their candidate elected president. Of course, 1864 saw the National Union Party get their candidate elected president.

Ross Perot and the Reform Party garnered almost 20% of the popular vote.

The problem with the Libertarians and other third parties is that they have been unable to attract viable candidates to run for President/Vice President. People who watch their conventions or observe their candidates conclude the party is a joke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olYx5LILl34

Libertarian chair candidate strips at party's convention

Three cheers for freedom of expression.

nolu chan  posted on  2018-07-06   13:18:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: nolu chan (#34)

So you argue there is no duopoly today and that 3rd parties can attract a significant base to dethrone the R's and D's because it happened before, 160+ plus years ago.

Cute.

If you want to start a campaign to repeal the Bill of Rights because some guy stripped at a convention, go for it.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-07-06   14:30:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Pinguinite, nolu chan (#36)

... some guy stripped at a convention ...
I’m Shocked.

Well, not really. You libertarians are fucking crazy.

Libertarian Party chair candidate strips on stage at national convention.

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