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Title: We are the Pro-Life Generation and we will abolish abortion
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Students for Life of America
URL Source: http://studentsforlife.org/
Published: Jul 3, 2018
Author: Students for Life of America
Post Date: 2018-07-03 16:51:43 by Hondo68
Keywords: Baby assassin Trump, Funds Planned Parenthood, Three times, so far
Views: 9689
Comments: 51
Our mission statement Students for Life of America exists to recruit, train, and mobilize the Pro-Life Generation to abolish abortion.
Poster Comment: The spending bill passed the Senate by a vote of 80-17 and was approved by the House, 316 to 90. Trump signed the bill into law on Friday. The deal places the president in the position of abandoning a specific promise made to his conservative base during his 2016 campaign. Trump and Vice-President Mike Pence outlined a pro-life agenda for a Trump administration. “I am committed to…Defunding Planned Parenthood as long as they continue to perform abortions, and re-allocating their funding to community health centers that provide comprehensive health for women,” Trump said in a letter to national pro-life leaders in 2016. Republicans, of course, claim to be a pro-life party, but have failed to defund Planned Parenthood, despite promises to the contrary. Terence Jeffrey, editor-in-chief at CNSNews.com, observes this is “the third spending deal President Trump has signed that funds Planned Parenthood”
Thank God that these courageous youngsters are opposing Trump's baby killing D&R establishment funded, abortion mills. 
Trump’s Spending Deal with Democrats Is Funding Planned Parenthood
The deal Trump cut with Minority Leaders Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi – and that the Republican-led Congress passed – funds abortion giant Planned Parenthood into fiscal year 2018 with taxpayer funds from the Medicaid program and Title X family planning grants.
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#3. To: hondo68 (#0)
Abolish? No. The best they can hope for is to return to pre-Roe v Wade when it was up to each state. Back then, it was illegal in 30 states.
The supreme court's duty is to be honest to the constitution and abolish abortion nationwide.
They don't have that power. They can only decide if a law is constitutional or not. In Roe v Wade, they found that state laws against abortion violated a woman's right to privacy and were, therefore, unconstitutional. The best we can hope for from the U.S. Supreme Court is a reversal of their decision -- which would return the issue to the states When that happens, you can certainly lobby your state to ban abortion or allow it under certain conditions.
They do have that power. The Constitution demands Equal justice under the law . They're human beings whose rights are being violated. Murder is a crime you dumbass.
They're human beings, when? At conception? Heartbeat detected? First trimester? Well then, Congress would have to pass a law saying that life begins at that point and abortion is murder and is thereore illegal. Any exceptions for rape, incest, or health of the mother? And what are the penalties for the mother? The abortionist? The clinic? You put that all together and then tell me how many votes you think you can get. I'll tell you. Not enough.
Yes. There needs to be an exception to preserve the life of the mother under dire circumstances, when all efforts to preserve both mother and baby have been exhausted. And of course, therefore, we must vastly increase our spending on orphanages and child welfare, because there will be a whole lot more poor children, in our country if we abolish abortion. And you’re right, there are not the votes to get that through the democratic process. Only about 16% of the country agrees. We need the Supreme Court to impose the rule as a constitutional interpretation, because we cannot win the point democratically. And then we have to be ready, once the court does that, for the political hellstorm to follow. We have to be ready with the really massive social spending on all of those millions of new children, most of them poor minorities, who will be born as the result. The way has to be made easy for women to offload the babies into good orphanages, etc. That might - MIGHT - be sufficient to deflect the political hellstorm long enough to survive some elections and make the new system stick. More likely, that decision would be a 21st Century Dredd Scott decision, that would hurtle us almost immediately into political civil war, which the Democrats would win easily.
The U.S. Supreme Court does not have the power to write law. You can't even take a case directly to the U.S. Supreme Court -- it's an appellate court. Meaning, a law must first be written declaring abortion to be murder, someone has to violate that law and be arrested (to have standing), then be convicted, appeal to a circuit court, conviction affirmed, then appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court. Who decides when life begins? A state? The U.S. Supreme Court? Who should be punished and what's a "just and fair" penalty? Can these definitions vary from state to state?
The Supreme Court has written the most important laws of the country. Abortion, gay marriage, legal segregation, then desegregation - all Supreme Court-made law. Judge-made law has always been the principle of the Common Law system. So, one can say that the Supreme Court “can’t”, but it manifestly DOES. One might say that it SHOULDN”T, but that’s a philosophical question.
No. Those were legal decisions concerning the constitutionality of a law that was being challenged. The law, passed by some legislative body, already existed. The law was applied to some action, creating an aggrieved party, who then challeged it on constitutional grounds.
#25. To: misterwhite (#24)
It gets to be a semantic game and a game of legal history. I can see that the principle here is very, very important to you. I suppose we could go back to the beginning of our legal system and come forward, and I would show you how our law was originally all judge made, and how statutes gradually filled in the interstices, or changed some aspect of the Common Law (which is mostly judge made, not legislature made). I would show you how statutes gradually codified the judge made law It would be an interesting drill for a legal historian. Trouble is, what happened and how we got here is rather different from the nice picturebook civics story of how our system works, and you'll dig in on the theory and insist that the theory is the reality, while I will keep saying that, no, the reality is about 75 degrees off of the theory. We will not be able to resolve the dispute, and we'll walk away irritated. So let's cut to the chase and walk away irritated without expending all of the time and effort.
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#4. To: misterwhite (#3)
#11. To: A K A Stone (#4)
The supreme court's duty is to be honest to the constitution and abolish abortion nationwide.
#13. To: misterwhite (#11)
#14. To: A K A Stone (#13)
The Constitution demands Equal justice under the law . They're human beings whose rights are being violated.
#19. To: misterwhite (#14)
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They're human beings, when? At conception?
#21. To: Vicomte13 (#19)
We need the Supreme Court to impose the rule as a constitutional interpretation,
#22. To: misterwhite (#21)
#24. To: Vicomte13 (#22)
all Supreme Court-made law.
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