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Title: ACLU National Legal Director: A Trump SCOTUS Nominee Will Move the Court ‘Far to the Right’ of Where America Is
Source: Breitbart
URL Source: https://www.breitbart.com/video/201 ... the-right-of-where-america-is/
Published: Jul 1, 2018
Author: Trent Baker
Post Date: 2018-07-01 17:20:31 by Liberator
Keywords: ACLU, Anti-America, COMMUNISTS
Views: 4715
Comments: 52

During a Saturday debate on MSNBC’s “AM Joy” about Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy’s retirement and who President Donald Trump will pick as his replacement, ACLU national legal director David Cole warned a Trump selection could move the Supreme Court “far to the right” of American society.

“The key is that Justice Kennedy was who kept the Supreme Court within somewhere within the mainstream of American society,” [ACLU Director] Cole argued. “If Trump gets to appoint another rigid, right-wing ideologue, the court will be far to the right of the country for a generation to come. And that, to me, that’s the key issue. we ought to be thinking about what role this justice is going to play in keeping the Supreme Court within the mainstream of American society.”

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#1. To: Liberator (#0)

Death penalty for abortion practitioners. Attempted murder charges for any elected offficial promoting or voting for abortion. Two strikes you hang. That would be just.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-07-01   17:33:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone (#1)

Death penalty for abortion practitioners. Attempted murder charges for any elected offficial promoting or voting for abortion. Two strikes you hang. That would be just.

You and I obviously believe abortion is murder. More ambiguous within the first month, but by the time there's a heartbeat the pre-born baby is CLEARLY A LIVING BEING. A human.

I am as outraged as you over the trivialization of abortion and framing of baby-murder as some kind of warped "Inalienable Right" by the Left.

That 1973 SCOTUS decision was A FIX. No organized outage followed because THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA swept any and all public and personal outrage over the decision under the rug.

If there is Justice in THIS world, most of the MSM would be locked up and/or awaiting sentencing for Treason, Sedition, Murder, etc.

Liberator  posted on  2018-07-01   18:21:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Liberator, A K A Stone (#4)

... but by the time there's a heartbeat the pre-born baby is CLEARLY A LIVING BEING. A human.
Clearly, CLEARLY....you say?

Medical science has shown that a person who has been indisputably declared legally dead and clinically dead by doctors can still have a heartbeat for weeks, months or even sometimes longer.

Furthermore, there are biblical scholars who believe that it is not the heartbeat that determines a living being, it is their breathing.

They base their conclusion on scripture:

And the LORD God formed man ofthe dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul - King James Bible.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-02   17:29:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Gatlin, A K A Stone (#19)

For YOU to quote Scripture as a standing supporter of pro-Abortion/pro-infanticide ACLU is the height of chutzpah and hypocrisy.

Even the Devil quotes Scripture.

Clearly, CLEARLY....["living"]you say?

Medical science has shown that a person who has been indisputably declared legally dead and clinically dead by doctors can still have a heartbeat for weeks, months or even sometimes longer.

You DARE to compare the heartbeat of a living, GROWING, HEALTHY infant in the womb...to someone artificially kept alive via LIFE-SUPPORT EQUIPMENT?

You mock God, you subvert Scripture, and lie and call it "truth". May God help you before you face judgment. You are truly deceived.

Furthermore, there are biblical scholars who believe that it is not the heartbeat that determines a living being, it is their breathing.

Don't try citing "Bible Scholars" to support your ACLU-mirrored perspective on the matter of Infanticide and life exterminated IN THE WOMB, ok?

Liberator  posted on  2018-07-03   15:39:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Liberator (#21)

Even the Devil quotes Scripture.
Interesting, most interesting.

What does he say when you listen to him?

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-03   15:50:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Gatlin (#23)

What does he say when you listen to him [the Devil]?

The presumption is that YOU are the one who has that direct line of communication.

Liberator  posted on  2018-07-03   16:13:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Liberator (#24)

The presumption is ...

Presumption is a word and methodology you should advoid using. Presumption is very closely related to the word, assumption. It tjerefore has the connotation of taking something for granted while not having sufficient evidence in advance of facts or denying available facts. The use of the word presumption suggests an immature attitude of arrogance and an display of ignorance. This idea is found in several Bible passages and is most closely associated with arrogance and pride.

"For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways," says the LORD. "For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways, And My thoughts than your thoughts." (Isaiah 55:8-9 NKJ)

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-03   16:35:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Gatlin (#26)

This idea is found in several Bible passages and is most closely associated with arrogance and pride.

Tone Deaf. That is you, Gatlin.

You don't see or sense the irony of YOU of all people exploiting the Word of God (and Bible whose Gospel and wisdom you DON'T believe) to try and score a debate point (that you won't be scoring no matter what.)

It is further foolishness that you scour Scriptural tract in desperation in hopes of "winning" an argument. You're actually engaging in STEALING the Lord's word in an effort to help buttress untruthful intent.

THAT said, IF it helps you accidentally learn any of God's wisdom or Gospel, then it's a good thing.

Liberator  posted on  2018-07-03   16:59:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Liberator (#28)

You don't see or sense the irony of YOU of all people exploiting the Word of God (and Bible whose Gospel and wisdom you DON'T believe.
No, the irony is that you do no know what I believe and don’t believe. We have never had a discussion on my religious beliefs. You have never asked me and I have never told you.

You are a very narrow-minded opinionated person filled with hate towards anyone who does not agree with you. You are conceitedly assertive and dogmatic in your opinions.....constantly trying to force your opinions onto others.

Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the LORD pondereth the hearts. Proverbs 21:2 - King James Bible.
I will leave you with that thought ...

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-03   17:44:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Gatlin (#31)

You do no know what I believe and don’t believe. We have never had a discussion on my religious beliefs.

We don't need any official conversation for me to know at which direction and position you represent.

Between LP and LF there is more than ample circumstantial evidence as well as your own testimony that defines and projects what you appear to believe/don't believe. But it's only my own subjective opinion, isn't it?

There is a Final Arbiter of who, what, and where you wind up. Has nothing to do with me.

You are a very narrow-minded opinionated person filled with hate towards anyone who does not agree with you. You are conceitedly assertive and dogmatic in your opinions.....constantly trying to force your opinions onto others.

Pure projection. To the nth degree.

And no btw, I do not "hate" you. As I'd stated up-thread, you have a mistaken notion/perceptions of truth and understanding of things. That opinion has only been reinforced by this latest post.

For the record, you have ALWAYS been free to state AND believe anything you want. Including your delusion that you have somehow, some way been a victim of coercion.

For the further record, for wisdom, honesty, and righteousness I shall continue to believe the word of God and heed his disciples.

What I will NOT do is rely on or respect any lecture from usurpers of Scripture, authoritarian statists, and secular supporters of the anti-Christian, anti-God, anti-America ACLU.

Liberator  posted on  2018-07-03   18:10:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Liberator, A K A Stone, Gatlin (#32)

What I will NOT do is rely on or respect any lecture from usurpers of Scripture, authoritarian statists, and secular supporters of the anti-Christian, anti- God, anti-America ACLU.

EXCLUSIVE: A rector who marched against Trump, gay blessings, gun control, Muslim outreach and 'climate crisis' solar panels on the roof: Meet Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch's ultra-liberal church

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4196096/Trump-s- Supreme-Court-pick-belongs-liberal-church.html

 

{ golf clap } for the Golf Hat "conservatives".

VxH  posted on  2018-07-04   14:49:43 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#34. To: VxH (#33)

SO Sick...

There is a point at which one can NOT sentence another based on indirect association down the line.

Q: Does Neil Gorsuch STILL attend this church?

Q2: Is Gorsuch a Constitutionalist?

(Frankly, the man has always worried me.)

Liberator  posted on  2018-07-04 15:04:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: VxH, Liberator, A K A Stone (#33)

What I will NOT do is rely on or respect any lecture from usurpers of Scripture, authoritarian statists, and secular supporters of the anti-Christian, anti- God, anti- America ACLU.
“All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right.” - 2 Timothy 3:16 [New Living Translation].

Jesus, while preaching one of the greatest sermons ever heard, said in Matthew 5:44-45, “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.” This makes for great preaching but hard living. How do I love someone whom I consider to be my enemy?

There is a good chance that you will not be able to change the heart of your enemy, but there is one thing you have control over — your heart towards them. Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, while teaching his children about hate, in his book “10 Conversations You Need To Have With Your Children” says, “If you treat someone lovingly, even if you feel no real compassion for them, even if you feel contempt for them, you are practicing kindness, and you will begin to feel kindness.” The part of the equation that is most likely to change is you, not your enemy. The more that you treat those people in your life who least deserve it with compassion, the more your heart will change towards them.

Hatred does nothing to the person that we hate. It only darkens our soul. A. W. Tozer says in The Pursuit of God, “Hate eats on the soul. To get free of hatred is like being healed of cancer.” We experience so much freedom when we can put our hate aside and love people the way that Jesus loved them and see them as image bearers of God. Not only that, our lives change when we can pray for those who persecute us. Tozer also says, “We cannot pray in love and live in hate and still think we are worshiping God.” Praying for those who persecute us changes our heart and allows us to worship God.

We experience so much freedom when we can put our hate aside and love people the way that Jesus loved them and see them as image bearers of God.

In the parable of the good Samaritan, Jesus expressed to the “expert in the law” that loving those people who were not like him was the true mark of the person who loved God.

I know it is cliché, but if we want to change the world, it begins with love. Jesus lived his life with compassion, and love and calls us to do the same. It starts with our love for God. The overflow of that love for God is a love for others, even people who, on the surface, we may want to hate. We are never more like Christ than when we love the unlovable and show compassion to those, who by all rights, we should hate. When we do that, we convey dignity and worth to those people and we exemplify who Christ is. Rabbi Boteach goes on to say, “Every human being has value, and every human encounter is a fresh chance to let him know it.” Every time we have interactions both good and bad we have an opportunity to be Jesus to them.

I was recently in Walmart, and I watched a lady who was frustrated and in a hurry berate a cashier for not double bagging her groceries. She was incredibly angry and scowled at everything he did. I could see it in his eyes — he felt utterly worthless. As he finished and began scanning my groceries, I felt such compassion for him. Here is a person attempting to do his job the best that he can, and he has been reduced to something less than human. I looked at him and said, “People can be so mean sometimes. Thanks for taking care of me today.” It was just a simple gesture, but his eyes lit up, and I could tell that a part of his dignity was restored. Every person you encounter from the Walmart cashier to the financial planner has value, and every chance we get to interact with them is a chance to remind them that they are created in the image of God, and we need to remind them of that as often as possible.

So, what can you do?
1. Chose love over hate.
2. Treat everyone whom you encounter with dignity.
3. Look for opportunities to speak value and life into the marginalized.
4. Pray for those who persecute you.

https://brentwoodchurch.org/can-a-christian-hate/

Gatlin  posted on  2018-07-04 15:41:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: VxH, Liberator, A K A Stone (#33)

Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch attends a liberal church. Should conservatives be concerned? 

As President Donald Trump has nominated Tenth Circuit Court Judge Gorsuch to fulfill the vacancy on the United States Supreme Court, many conservatives have praised the selection while others are weary of the fact that Gorsuch attends a very liberal Episcopal church in Colorado.

After the 49-year-old Gorsuch was nominated to replace late Justice Antonin Scalia on Jan. 31, scores of evangelical and pro-life leaders called the nomination a fulfillment of Trump's promise to nominate an originalist, pro-life conservative justice in the mold of Scalia, saying that he has an unwavering judicial philosophy of interpreting the U.S. Constitution as originally written.

Many praised the fact that Gorsuch sided in favor of religious liberties in high- profile cases such as Hobby Lobby and Little Sisters of the Poor and even dissented in a 2016 ruling favoring Planned Parenthood.

However, multiple reports have pointed out that Gorsuch and his wife attend St. John's, Boulder — a liberal Episcopal church headed by a very liberal, pro-LGBT female rector named Rev. Susan Springer.

Opposition to Gorsuch's affiliation with St. John's was voiced even before he was nominated.

Christian conservative activist and lawyer Andy Schlafly, the son of the late pro- life leader Phyllis Schlafly, voiced his concern over the possible nomination of Gorsuch in an email sent in November with the subject line: "veto these Sup. Ct. nominee candidates."

Schlafly wrote that Gorsuch "probably would NOT be pro-life on the Supreme Court" and included him on his list of "unacceptable nominees."

"Gorsuch's Episcopalian church has declared its 'unequivocal opposition' to pro- life laws and he has said nothing publicly pro-life," Schlafly wrote in the email.

Others, including journalist Julia Duin, who previously wrote for the conservative news outlet The Washington Times, have brought up the issue of Gorsuch's membership at St. John's.

"Think about that for a moment. If this man is the frightening conservative that some on the Left are already alleging him to be, there's no way he'd be Episcopalian, much less at a woman-priested church," Duin wrote. "The Episcopal Church, for anyone who's not been following religion trends in recent decades, has been careening to the theological and cultural left for years and its membership statistics show it. Thousands have left TEC and joined alternative Anglican churches."

"A Google search shows there's an Anglican church in Boulder that the Gorsuch family could be attending if they so desired," she continued. "So, the fact that the judge and his family has remained at St. John's says something."

Should the fact that the Gorsuches attends St. John's, Boulder really matter to conservatives looking to nominate a justice to the Supreme Court who has shown throughout his legal career to be an originalist who interprets the law as it is written?

"Ultimately, what this comes down to is that conservatives are looking for a justice that has an originalist constitutional theory as far as looking at what the Constitution says," Jeff Walton, the communications manager for the Washington, D.C.-based think tank Institute on Religion & Democracy, told The Christian Post.

"If Gorsuch subscribes to that method of reading the Constitution and practicing law, then it doesn't really matter what church he goes to because his personal views may be different than what he advances as far as legal theory."

Walton understands how liberal St. John's, Boulder is, pointing out that the church is one of four Episcopal congregations in Colorado that gives part of its budget every year to the "unofficial LGBT caucus of the Episcopal Church," Integrity USA.

"There is no question that it is a Lefty parish," Walton explained. "Out of curiosity, I looked on their webpage. They have some anti-gun rights stuff. The pastor there, she was at the Women's March in Denver. There were all kinds of red flags. But just because she has those views as the rector, doesn't mean that everybody who participates there has those views."

"At IRD, we have supporters who are very conservative but go to churches that have more liberal clergy," Walton added. "The liberal clergy will occasionally spout off about something and these congregants will roll their eyes at it and let it wash over and it is not that big of a deal. That may be the situation [at St. John's]."

Walton pointed out that there are a number of other prominent conservatives — including Fox News correspondent Tucker Carlson, former Republican Indiana Sen. Dan Coats and former White House Chief of Staff under Ronald Reagan, James Baker — who attend Episcopal churches.

"Tucker Carlson, who is no liberal, he goes to a rather liberal parish in Georgetown," Walton stated. "That is just sometimes how the cookie crumbles. It wouldn't prevent me from, as a conservative, supporting this guy as a nominee for the court."

"I think that while being a member of St. John's Boulder would give many conservatives pause, ultimately, that is not as important as his ruling for the Tenth Circuit on the Hobby Lobby case or some of the other ones, which were very clear," Walton continued. "Some of the things he has written about, especially problems with euthanasia, that counts more than where he is a member."

Walton added that he learned through one of his friends who is an Episcopal priest that St. John's is the "social parish of Boulder."

"This is where the professional class goes to church. In those sorts of parishes, the political sentiments of the rector don't carry as far as they might in another parish because people are not going there primarily for political organizing purposes," Walton explained. "They are there because it is basically sort of a class thing."

Richard Land, the president of the Southern Evangelical Seminary in Charlotte, North Carolina and former president of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission, told CP that it is "irrelevant" and may even be "unconstitutional" to take into account what kind of church Gorsuch attends.

"Since Judge Gorsuch is so well known to be a strict constructionist and original- intent jurist, his religious views are particularly irrelevant for his qualifications to be a justice on the Supreme Court," Land, who is also CP's executive editor, said. "He has said repeatedly that any judge who is always happy with his opinions is not even a judge. A judge is to interpret the law as it is written, not as he might like for it to be."

"Secondly of course, Article VI of the Constitution says that there will be no religious test for office," Land, who serves on Trump's evangelical advisory board, added. "So, making his religious affiliation an issue would arguably be unconstitutional."

Land said he is confident that Gorsuch would be a strict constructionist if confirmed to the Supreme Court.

"If all of our judges had interpreted the law, rather than trying to make it from the bench, there personal views and religious views would be irrelevant," Land asserted.

https://www.christianpost.com/news/does-neil-gorsuchs-liberal-church- matter-174630/

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