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Title: TOP 3 BEST DEBUT ROCK ALBUMS EVER
Source: youtube
URL Source: http://various
Published: Jun 25, 2018
Author: YOUR OPINION
Post Date: 2018-06-25 17:47:16 by Liberator
Keywords: MUSIC, ALBUMS, EXTINCT-ART
Views: 7822
Comments: 86

Fully subjective of course, but most of us (loosely the Baby-Boomer Generation) have grown up listening to the best music this culture has been able to offer -- namely from the 50s-late 80s. We more than other generation were able to fully gauge, critique and appreciate each era and genre fully with a discriminating ear.

For the sake of this exercise of opinion, the premise and challenge is, "BEST 3 DEBUT ALBUMS".

The stiffest competition would actually be between the 70s and 80s.

Rock Music (as a viable "Pop Music" genre died in the 20th Century. ergo, RIP, 1955-1999

Other categories worthy of discussion might be:

"Best Overall Album"
"Best Back-to-Back Albums"
"Best Compilation"
"Best Singles-Machine"


Poster Comment:

Given the 1950s were mostly a decade of singles as were much of the 60s, they are numerically at a disadvantage.

I would give the nod to the 1970s as by far the best decade for album themed music. It combined the best of production value, technology resources, and conscious decision by record companies to produce "theme" albums. Often artists and groups would be embarrassed to include "filler".

I'm going to cheat and submit 5 Top Debut Albums (in chronological order):

1) Chicago (Transit Authority, 1970)
2) Derek and the Dominoes (Layla, 1972)
3) Bad Company (Bad Company, 1974)
4) Boston (1976)
5) Foreigner (1977)

Sure there were others, BUT...

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#2. To: Liberator (#0) (Edited)

The debut Boston album was really something in its time, but I don't think it's worn all that well over time.

Gotta give it to Derek and the Dominoes. Never get tired of playing that album.

GnR is loud and........ well, yeah, that's about it. Although "Paradise City" worked for that EA video game.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2018-06-25   18:02:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Hank Rearden (#2)

A couple of the Boston tracks do sound a bit dated...

But over all, pretty still fresh to me.

We're all bound to have a diverging opinion, but to me Boston's debut album was 20 years a head of its time. There's still nothing that sounds like it.

D&D...Timeless album. To bad they couldn't follow it up. Clapton was a amzing artist.

Drummer Jim Gordon -- ever hear *his* story? GREAT drummer. Too bad he was psychopath.

Liberator  posted on  2018-06-25   18:09:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Liberator (#4) (Edited)

Drummer Jim Gordon -- ever hear *his* story? GREAT drummer. Too bad he was psychopath.

I'll see you, and raise you "Beware of Mr. Baker" on Netflix or wherever.

I love listening to Clapton in any of his incarnations, with any other group of musicians. Has anybody else ever been a founding member of so many supergroups? It's too bad he's in decline finally but man, what a legacy.

Ever catch any of the Crossroads Blu-rays or CDs? I bow my head just thinking about them.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2018-06-25   18:12:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Hank Rearden, Pinguinite, A K A Stone (#7)

I'll see you, and raise you "Beware of Mr. Baker" on Netflix or wherever.

You could be right. Ginger Baker has been a crazed, belligerent lunatic for 50 years.

"Beware of Mr. Baker" looks interesting. (Or depressing, depending on your mood.)

Trailer:

Check out this Rolling Stone story fr0m 2009 (a South Africanthe guy is STILL alive today somehow):

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/the-devil-and-ginger-baker-20090820

'The Devil and Ginger Baker'

Inside a gated compound in South Africa, one of rock's most legendary drummers is still making enemies

Excerpt:

"F**kin' hell!" Ginger Baker shouts at the South African sunrise. His ritual morning curse complete, the 69-year-old drummer for Cream takes a deep pull on his morphine inhaler and throws his body back into the leather recliner where he spends the majority of his days.

As the drug takes effect, his tanned, weather-beaten face contracts and his vivid blue eyes go wide. His girlfriend, Kudzai, a beautiful 27-year-old from Zimbabwe he met on the Internet, hovers over him counting out his daily handful of antidepressants, stomach pills and painkillers.

"What are you looking at, Yankee!" Baker barks at me, his voice cutting through the silence like an animal shriek. Now that the morphine is running strong, he pops up out of his chair with the nervous energy of a teenager, but still he walks like a creaky old man....

Over the course of his life, during which he's raced bicycles and played polo, Baker has broken most of his ribs, mangled one of his arms and had his front teeth smashed in. He was recently diagnosed with a degenerative spine condition and the onset of emphysema. "God is punishing me for my past wickedness by keeping me alive and in as much pain as he can," Baker says bitterly.

Ginger Baker. He's been blessed than more than 99% of the population. Despite that the guy smoked like a chimney; Been a heroine addict for 50 years; Was reckless and rebellious and willfully disrespected his own body his entire life. Now it's all God's fault?

You wonder how the "Counselors" of the "Newton Model" would handle the case Ginger Baker. I'd imagine Baker's when his number was called, it would cause even that unlucky "team" to scatter ;-)

Liberator  posted on  2018-06-26   13:21:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Liberator (#43)

Ginger Baker. He's been blessed than more than 99% of the population. Despite that the guy smoked like a chimney; Been a heroine addict for 50 years; Was reckless and rebellious and willfully disrespected his own body his entire life. Now it's all God's fault?

You wonder how the "Counselors" of the "Newton Model" would handle the case Ginger Baker. I'd imagine Baker's when his number was called, it would cause even that unlucky "team" to scatter ;-)

I understand your facetiousness, and I never knew of this guy before today, but would hardly characterize him as being "blessed". I certainly wouldn't change places with him, at least. As for it being "God's fault" I don't necessarily see him casting any blame on God for his situation. Seems to me he's blaming himself. Which he probably should.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-06-26   17:34:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Pinguinite (#75)

As for it being "God's fault" I don't necessarily see him casting any blame on God for his situation. Seems to me he's blaming himself. Which he probably should.

He did blame himself...and also blamed "God" for "punishing" him for allowing him to "suffer".

...But [I] would hardly characterize him as being "blessed".

No?? The guy was blessed with good health and physical attractiveness; the extraordinary gift of the art of drumming; liberty and freedom to do as he pleased in this life; been saved by high-tech medical science (and pleased by it); Lives on almost 300 acres, had 4 wives, and has been blessed with wealth.

From what I've read and know from reading about Ginger Baker, the only way he's NOT been "blessed" is via his own self-inflicted rebellious hand and bad judgement.

No, I would not want to trade places with him NOW...or frankly, most sickly, bitter, nasty mad-at-the-world malcontents.

To me, that whole "trading places" thing isn't to be taken all that seriously anyway -- it's more of a temporary challenge, a "game" we'd play back when. There are only ONE respective Pinguinite and one Liberator mold made. (Even if you believe you make an "encore appearance", you'd still not be "Pinguinite").

Liberator  posted on  2018-06-27   10:29:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Liberator (#80)

He did blame himself...and also blamed "God" for "punishing" him for allowing him to "suffer".

I didn't get that from what I read above. Sounded more like he admitted to deserving it.

No?? The guy was blessed with good health and physical attractiveness; the extraordinary gift of the art of drumming; liberty and freedom to do as he pleased in this life; been saved by high-tech medical science (and pleased by it); Lives on almost 300 acres, had 4 wives, and has been blessed with wealth.

You count 4 wives as a blessing? Maybe if he had them all at the same time, otherwise, at least 3 of them probably fell short of the "blessing" qualification.

On good health and attractiveness, if he had those qualities, fine. Skills are his own, however, and he gets credit for that, and it translated to financial success which he apparently couldn't handle very well, to his own drug-addicted detriment. He has much to learn.

There are only ONE respective Pinguinite and one Liberator mold made. (Even if you believe you make an "encore appearance", you'd still not be "Pinguinite").

One of the assumptions made by most major faiths is that our DNA defines all that we are, and the soul is merely a consciousness that's left over when the body dies. Under Newton, not so. The vast majority of our identity, -- i.e. our personality -- is defined by the soul not the human brain. The brain defines things like sexual attractiveness as that's purely carnal, and some brain related psychiatric ailments are purely physical, but personal traits in general are an aspect of the soul, so vices, virtues etc, go with you when you die (they ARE you) and so upon return, it's *you* all over again. It could well be that various skills and "mental" abilities are included in this, such as math, writing & piano playing skills, which would explain child prodigies who are amazingly advanced for their age.

A soul changing bodies is much akin to a person changing clothes. He'll be regarded differently by the public, but underneath, it's the same person.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-06-27   12:06:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Pinguinite (#84)

On good health and attractiveness, if he had those qualities, fine. Skills are his own, however, and he gets credit for that, and it translated to financial success which he apparently couldn't handle very well, to his own drug-addicted detriment. He has much to learn.

Some people,due to some sort of genetic imbalance at birth,just ain't happy unless they are miserable.

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