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Title: TOP 3 BEST DEBUT ROCK ALBUMS EVER
Source: youtube
URL Source: http://various
Published: Jun 25, 2018
Author: YOUR OPINION
Post Date: 2018-06-25 17:47:16 by Liberator
Keywords: MUSIC, ALBUMS, EXTINCT-ART
Views: 11515
Comments: 86

Fully subjective of course, but most of us (loosely the Baby-Boomer Generation) have grown up listening to the best music this culture has been able to offer -- namely from the 50s-late 80s. We more than other generation were able to fully gauge, critique and appreciate each era and genre fully with a discriminating ear.

For the sake of this exercise of opinion, the premise and challenge is, "BEST 3 DEBUT ALBUMS".

The stiffest competition would actually be between the 70s and 80s.

Rock Music (as a viable "Pop Music" genre died in the 20th Century. ergo, RIP, 1955-1999

Other categories worthy of discussion might be:

"Best Overall Album"
"Best Back-to-Back Albums"
"Best Compilation"
"Best Singles-Machine"


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Given the 1950s were mostly a decade of singles as were much of the 60s, they are numerically at a disadvantage.

I would give the nod to the 1970s as by far the best decade for album themed music. It combined the best of production value, technology resources, and conscious decision by record companies to produce "theme" albums. Often artists and groups would be embarrassed to include "filler".

I'm going to cheat and submit 5 Top Debut Albums (in chronological order):

1) Chicago (Transit Authority, 1970)
2) Derek and the Dominoes (Layla, 1972)
3) Bad Company (Bad Company, 1974)
4) Boston (1976)
5) Foreigner (1977)

Sure there were others, BUT...

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What's not often discussed is the reason Rock Music was killed off.

Often I have stated as my subjective opinion that ubiquitous, widely listenable Rock Music died in by the late 80s. 1987 to be exact. The reasons for this are many. SOME say it died with the advent of Disco (c. 1974-1975).

While this claim might be considered true to a degree, what Disco *did* do is prove to the corporate Music Industry and Record Producers that the quality musicianship and what makes "good music" was far less important than the packaging, marketing, perception. And the notion and longer-range plan by liberals-Leftists that politics flows downstream from culture...

WHICH leads us to ask the hows and whys:

HOW in the world did vulgar Ghetto Rap and female yodeling of "empowerment" whinefest anthems ever wind up the default "music" of pop culture for the last 25 years?

HOW did Rap, wimpy male emo whining, and female yodeling and yapping EVER wind up displacing varied genres of pleasing music compositions, inspirational lyrics, swaying rhythms and sweet vocal and instrumental chords of the 50s-80s -- as well as its soulful, sunny harmonies?

Q: Just how did an earful of garbage become "gourmet" music?
A: The same way a crucifix in a jar of urine became "museum art"; The same way Barry 0bama became President. VULGAR has replaced REFINEMENT; UGLY has replaced BEAUTY; LIES have replaced TRUTH.

In other words, like almost all of music -- including contemporary arts, foods, science, history, and language -- quality has become relative, and graded on a curve.

"Pop Music" has been a akin to a Third World rotting corpse, the King with no clothes", a corporate polished turd that lies. 21st century "music" STINKS. Purposely. Just like movies. Just like "education". Just like anything the Left and its cousins, Globalists touches. Pop Culture promotes Anarchy, From the Sciences to History to Morality to Politics to Religion.

If you accept this premise, then the question would be, "BUT WHY?"

I may be straying here beyond the original tangent, but it needs to be said -- the consensus-makers have recognized the political power and influence of "Pop Music" (as well as Spectator Sports like the NFL and Movies) as driving forces of young opinion, "Religions" of sorts. Not news, but simply put, the purveyors/Powers That Be of Pop Culture are social engineers and anarchists in rebellion.

Liberator  posted on  2018-06-25   18:06:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Liberator (#3)

Often I have stated as my subjective opinion that ubiquitous, widely listenable Rock Music died in by the late 80s. 1987 to be exact. The reasons for this are many. SOME say it died with the advent of Disco (c. 1974-1975).

I agree with some aspects of your statement - however I don't believe that listenable rock music died in 1987. It was just moved to the back burner so to speak. Radio stations became more corporate controlled, many if not most of them got their playlists from central control and at that time a lot of stations were getting rid of local DJ's and relying on a more cookie cutter approach.

The good music has always been there - it just became more difficult to find stations that played it

...what Disco *did* do is prove to the corporate Music Industry and Record Producers that the quality musicianship and what makes "good music" was far less important than the packaging,

The "Disco Era" was a turning point in music, definitely a low point in musical history, but it did induce a backlash of sorts. The punk-rock scene developed at about that time - Sex Pistols, The Clash, Elvis Costello, The Jam - all of those bands and others created some great music in spite of disco being the dominant music genre at the time.

I think there will always be great, tuneful music, harmonies, melodies, musicians with great instrumental prowess and in a lot of ways there is even more than there has been in the past with the internet allowing any band to get their music out to the listeners, bypassing the control of record labels.

The downside is that there is so much music available now that it's sometimes difficult to find what you like.

HOW in the world did vulgar Ghetto Rap and female yodeling of "empowerment" whinefest anthems ever wind up the default "music" of pop culture for the last 25 years?

I read this article a number of years ago - it provides one theory as to why - take it with a grain of salt.

"The Secret Meeting that Changed Rap Music and Destroyed a Generation"

Interesting stuff.

HOW did Rap, wimpy male emo whining, and female yodeling and yapping EVER wind up displacing varied genres of pleasing music compositions, inspirational lyrics, swaying rhythms and sweet vocal and instrumental chords of the 50s-80s -- as well as its soulful, sunny harmonies?

My theory on that - especially the use of auto-tone to make the vocals on many songs sound robotic: The Transhumanist agenda

Transhumanism, a strange agglomeration of technology, politics, and even aspects of religion. The Transhumanist view of the future features a fully mechanized simulacrum of society teeming with visible and invisible robots and robotic functions that will engineer the minutia of life at every turn, presumably to make life easier and more fulfilling.

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#83. To: Deckard (#42)

I agree with some aspects of your statement - however I don't believe that listenable rock music died in 1987. It was just moved to the back burner so to speak. Radio stations became more corporate controlled, many if not most of them got their playlists from central control and at that time a lot of stations were getting rid of local DJ's and relying on a more cookie cutter approach.

But it moved waaaay to the "back burner" in another galaxy beyond the mainstream. For anyone expecting it to be at their fingertips (as in the previous 30 years), it's long gone.)

Yes, we've discussed this phenomena before; Corporate entities/PTB consciously collaborated/conspired to gut or set fire to creatively-produced independent music and wide array of rock genres and instead infected the airwaves with a limited "cookie-cutter" approach. Those "cookies" intended for wide public consumption were "CRAP A, B, C".) This was part the PTB plan to corrupt and poison Western culture IMO.

The good music has always been there - it just became more difficult to find stations that played it

Yes, I get it. IOW, good, creative "pop music" that used to be readily available to the masses was buried so deep that only truly inquisitive people like you would be able to find it.

The "Disco Era" was a turning point in music, definitely a low point in musical history, but it did induce a backlash of sorts. The punk-rock scene developed at about that time - Sex Pistols, The Clash, Elvis Costello, The Jam - all of those bands and others created some great music in spite of disco being the dominant music genre at the time.

Disco was arguably a "Low point" only when it became dominant over genres of Rock. It just was never THAT good to displace rock over all, was it?

Some of the other band genres -- Punk and New Wave *were* creative. But...again IMO, were a step down in the evolution of quality rock as I recall in real time. I guess that opinion is obviously relative. But if you think about it, "Rock" DID "die" within 10 years of the Punk/New Wave incursion. Then most of Rock it was snuffed out by Grunge and more Rap. By the mid-90s it really was all over and the dirt was shoveled over the spirit of Dick Clark :-(

I think there will always be great, tuneful music, harmonies, melodies, musicians with great instrumental prowess and in a lot of ways there is even more than there has been in the past with the internet allowing any band to get their music out to the listeners, bypassing the control of record labels.

"If a tree falls in the forest..."

I wish, but naah, don't think so.Why not? Simply because there are the vast number of kids inspired and challenged to be great musicians as in the heyday of the 60s and early 70s. No where near musically proficient young people in the last 30 years or so.

I'm sure you've dug deep and found some great music. But for most people, it's buried too far below the surface.

I read this article a number of years ago - it provides one theory as to why - take it with a grain of salt.

"The Secret Meeting that Changed Rap Music and Destroyed a Generation"

Interesting stuff.

INDEED "interesting stuff." I can easily believe what went down. Fascinating as it turns out. 1991. Conspiracy to promote Rap under the guise of "Prison" fodder. Yup, turns out making Rap "pop music" was about the PTB destroying Western Culture.

My theory on that - especially the use of auto-tone to make the vocals on many songs sound robotic: The Transhumanist agenda

Transhumanism, a strange agglomeration of technology, politics, and even aspects of religion. The Transhumanist view of the future features a fully mechanized simulacrum of society teeming with visible and invisible robots and robotic functions that will engineer the minutia of life at every turn, presumably to make life easier and more fulfilling.

Wild. The Transhumanist Agenda. I have also been following this phenomena....The claims of "benefits" are Deception of course.

We also agree on the PTB MO -- this hi-tech manipulation of our society by our satanic overlords. Most people can't wrap their head around this or what's coming down the pike. Dark days ahead. Hold onto your soul.

Reminds me of this:

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