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Title: TOP 3 BEST DEBUT ROCK ALBUMS EVER
Source: youtube
URL Source: http://various
Published: Jun 25, 2018
Author: YOUR OPINION
Post Date: 2018-06-25 17:47:16 by Liberator
Keywords: MUSIC, ALBUMS, EXTINCT-ART
Views: 3007
Comments: 86

Fully subjective of course, but most of us (loosely the Baby-Boomer Generation) have grown up listening to the best music this culture has been able to offer -- namely from the 50s-late 80s. We more than other generation were able to fully gauge, critique and appreciate each era and genre fully with a discriminating ear.

For the sake of this exercise of opinion, the premise and challenge is, "BEST 3 DEBUT ALBUMS".

The stiffest competition would actually be between the 70s and 80s.

Rock Music (as a viable "Pop Music" genre died in the 20th Century. ergo, RIP, 1955-1999

Other categories worthy of discussion might be:

"Best Overall Album"
"Best Back-to-Back Albums"
"Best Compilation"
"Best Singles-Machine"


Poster Comment:

Given the 1950s were mostly a decade of singles as were much of the 60s, they are numerically at a disadvantage.

I would give the nod to the 1970s as by far the best decade for album themed music. It combined the best of production value, technology resources, and conscious decision by record companies to produce "theme" albums. Often artists and groups would be embarrassed to include "filler".

I'm going to cheat and submit 5 Top Debut Albums (in chronological order):

1) Chicago (Transit Authority, 1970)
2) Derek and the Dominoes (Layla, 1972)
3) Bad Company (Bad Company, 1974)
4) Boston (1976)
5) Foreigner (1977)

Sure there were others, BUT...

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#1. To: Liberator (#0)

Best debut album of all time is Guns n Roses Appetite for destruction. Hands down without a diubt. It is also still the best sellong debut album also.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-06-25   17:59:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Liberator (#0) (Edited)

The debut Boston album was really something in its time, but I don't think it's worn all that well over time.

Gotta give it to Derek and the Dominoes. Never get tired of playing that album.

GnR is loud and........ well, yeah, that's about it. Although "Paradise City" worked for that EA video game.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2018-06-25   18:02:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#0)

What's not often discussed is the reason Rock Music was killed off.

Often I have stated as my subjective opinion that ubiquitous, widely listenable Rock Music died in by the late 80s. 1987 to be exact. The reasons for this are many. SOME say it died with the advent of Disco (c. 1974-1975).

While this claim might be considered true to a degree, what Disco *did* do is prove to the corporate Music Industry and Record Producers that the quality musicianship and what makes "good music" was far less important than the packaging, marketing, perception. And the notion and longer-range plan by liberals-Leftists that politics flows downstream from culture...

WHICH leads us to ask the hows and whys:

HOW in the world did vulgar Ghetto Rap and female yodeling of "empowerment" whinefest anthems ever wind up the default "music" of pop culture for the last 25 years?

HOW did Rap, wimpy male emo whining, and female yodeling and yapping EVER wind up displacing varied genres of pleasing music compositions, inspirational lyrics, swaying rhythms and sweet vocal and instrumental chords of the 50s-80s -- as well as its soulful, sunny harmonies?

Q: Just how did an earful of garbage become "gourmet" music?
A: The same way a crucifix in a jar of urine became "museum art"; The same way Barry 0bama became President. VULGAR has replaced REFINEMENT; UGLY has replaced BEAUTY; LIES have replaced TRUTH.

In other words, like almost all of music -- including contemporary arts, foods, science, history, and language -- quality has become relative, and graded on a curve.

"Pop Music" has been a akin to a Third World rotting corpse, the King with no clothes", a corporate polished turd that lies. 21st century "music" STINKS. Purposely. Just like movies. Just like "education". Just like anything the Left and its cousins, Globalists touches. Pop Culture promotes Anarchy, From the Sciences to History to Morality to Politics to Religion.

If you accept this premise, then the question would be, "BUT WHY?"

I may be straying here beyond the original tangent, but it needs to be said -- the consensus-makers have recognized the political power and influence of "Pop Music" (as well as Spectator Sports like the NFL and Movies) as driving forces of young opinion, "Religions" of sorts. Not news, but simply put, the purveyors/Powers That Be of Pop Culture are social engineers and anarchists in rebellion.

Liberator  posted on  2018-06-25   18:06:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Hank Rearden (#2)

A couple of the Boston tracks do sound a bit dated...

But over all, pretty still fresh to me.

We're all bound to have a diverging opinion, but to me Boston's debut album was 20 years a head of its time. There's still nothing that sounds like it.

D&D...Timeless album. To bad they couldn't follow it up. Clapton was a amzing artist.

Drummer Jim Gordon -- ever hear *his* story? GREAT drummer. Too bad he was psychopath.

Liberator  posted on  2018-06-25   18:09:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Liberator (#0)

The Knack

Get the Knack

Can't say it's one of my favorites, but it's hard to deny its success.

The band quickly faded into oblivion shortly after, though.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2018-06-25   18:09:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Liberator (#3)

HOW in the world did vulgar Ghetto Rap and female yodeling of "empowerment" whinefest anthems ever wind up the default "music" of pop culture for the last 25 years?

Here you go, explains it all: The TRUTH Why Modern Music Is Awful

Hank Rearden  posted on  2018-06-25   18:10:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Liberator (#4) (Edited)

Drummer Jim Gordon -- ever hear *his* story? GREAT drummer. Too bad he was psychopath.

I'll see you, and raise you "Beware of Mr. Baker" on Netflix or wherever.

I love listening to Clapton in any of his incarnations, with any other group of musicians. Has anybody else ever been a founding member of so many supergroups? It's too bad he's in decline finally but man, what a legacy.

Ever catch any of the Crossroads Blu-rays or CDs? I bow my head just thinking about them.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2018-06-25   18:12:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Hank Rearden (#2)

Boston's second album was arguably better than the first.

Then they took 8 years to release a 3rd album because of internal struggles. I don't think they have been heard from since.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2018-06-25   18:13:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: no gnu taxes (#5)

The Knack -- funny but I was a captive audience to listening to 'My Sharona' seemingly for the entire summer of 1979 while working on the Seaside NJ boardwalk. (Record stand nearby, so I would listen to every summer's array of "IN" music.) Aaah, those were the days.

I never did hear any other tune on the album. Pretty good?

Right -- The Knack was projected to be an up and comer but that was its apex of commercial success. They never did make it.

Liberator  posted on  2018-06-25   18:21:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Hank Rearden, Deckard (#6)

Thanks...

I will check it out and listen to another theory as to why pop music has devolved into the abyss.

Liberator  posted on  2018-06-25   18:23:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Hank Rearden (#7)

I'll see you, and raise you "Beware of Mr. Baker" on Netflix or wherever.

Gordon murdered his own mother. (Dunno if Mr. Baker beats that. Don't get Netflix.)

I love listening to Clapton in any of his incarnations, with any other group of musicians. Has anybody else ever been a founding member of so many supergroups?

Good question. I'd have to think it over....

Clapton was creative for a good 20 years.

Ever catch any of the Crossroads Blu-rays or CDs? I bow my head just thinking about them.

Nope. Maybe it can be found on YouTube?

Liberator  posted on  2018-06-25   18:27:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Hank Rearden (#6)

Been listening....

Ughhh. "The Millennial Root" (Wah-oh. Wah-Oh.) THAt'S the Disease and what the female "yodel" is called? They also use it with auto-tune. A chronic horror.

Thus far an excellent vid and explanation on youtube...The same TWO guys compose 90% of the vast drivel played on the radio. Which why the non-Rap Crap ALL sounds the same.

Liberator  posted on  2018-06-25   18:31:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Liberator (#9) (Edited)

The Knack -- funny but I was a captive audience to listening to 'My Sharona' seemingly for the entire summer of 1979 while working on the Seaside NJ boardwalk. (Record stand nearby, so I would listen to every summer's array of "IN" music.)

That kind of reminds me of Meatloaf's "Two out of three ain't bad" in 1978. It was played 3 times an hour on any radio station you tuned in to. I liked it at first but grew sick of it by the end of the summer. I sort of like it again now, mostly because I don't have to listen to it every 30 minutes.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2018-06-25   18:34:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Liberator (#0)

I was going to suggest Boston as well.

I understand Tom Scholz was an engineer at MIT and personally developed some of the electronics used for his guitar. Regardless of how it was done, the clean sounding electric guitar sound on their album was certainly was a new thing in the industry.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-06-25   18:40:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Liberator (#0)

TOP 3 BEST DEBUT ROCK ALBUMS EVER

Might I suggest 5 Favorite debut Rock Albums - there is no way to quantify best...in no particular order:

5. Ramones - Ramones - Kicked the door down for a generation of punk rockers

4. Queen - Queen - Lyrics, melodies and Brian May

3. AC/DC – High Voltage - Speaks for itself

2. Rush – Rush - You cannot get better quality rock from 3 musicians

1. Bruce Springsteen - Greetings From Asbury Park - The Boss put the Jersey Shore sound on the table - still rocking 40 yearson....

Jameson  posted on  2018-06-25   18:48:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Liberator (#0)

Best Debut Album

Rock and Rollin' with Fats Domino (1955, Imperial)

Here are the next few he made..

Fats Domino Rock and Rollin' (1956, Imperial)

This Is Fats Domino! (1956, Imperial)

This Is Fats (1957, Imperial)

Here Stands Fats Domino

tpaine  posted on  2018-06-25   18:53:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: no gnu taxes (#8)

Then they took 8 years to release a 3rd album because of internal struggles. I don't think they have been heard from since.

The official band has, in fact, released new albums over the years but they've gone no where. It seems Scholz, for all his engineering genius, was a nitpicking perfectionist to the point of being a PITA, which was, perhaps, to the credit of their early albums but also possibly at least one of the anchors that kept the band from flourishing.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-06-25   19:02:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: tpaine (#16)

How about a few choices in the past 100 Years, you old fuck.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-06-25   19:28:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: A K A Stone (#1)

Appetite for destruction

I’d put that in the top 10

Back in Black (even tho I liked Bonn Scott better than Brian Johnson) also must be included in top 5

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-06-25   19:30:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#1)

Peter Framton Comes Alive - Alive would have to be considered too

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-06-25   19:33:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Liberator (#4)

But over all, pretty still fresh to me.

We're all bound to have a diverging opinion, but to me Boston's debut album was 20 years a head of its time. There's still nothing that sounds like it.

I agree. It came out of nowhere,and flat took over.

And "Is dated now" doesn't mean squat. We are talking about DEBUT albums,and the impact that they had.

I can't remember which one it was off the top of my head at the moment,but whichever one was the first Allman Brother Band Album has to be right up there,too.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-06-25   20:01:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Liberator (#11)

Ever catch any of the Crossroads Blu-rays or CDs? I bow my head just thinking about them.

Nope. Maybe it can be found on YouTube?

I would be shocked if there is ever a period of time in all of eternity that you couldn't just buy them on-line anytime you want. They,like most of Pink Floyd's releases,will never go out of print.

It's da blues,man.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-06-25   20:05:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Jameson (#15)

5. Ramones - Ramones - Kicked the door down for a generation of punk rockers

Which pretty much describes why none of their crap is even semi-good.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-06-25   20:06:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: GrandIsland (#20)

Peter Framton Comes Alive -

Yeah,I can see that one making the list. Do you know ANYBODY that didn't buy it?

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-06-25   20:08:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: sneakypete (#22)

Pink Floyd

The Wall... maybe another top 10

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-06-25   20:11:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: sneakypete (#23)

Which pretty much describes

Enjoy the music you like, I couldn't care less about your opinion if all you can manage is "none of their crap is even semi-good"

Jameson  posted on  2018-06-25   20:16:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Liberator (#0)

How about the weirdest music collaboration ever. This was actually a decent US hit, and did even better overseas.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2018-06-25   20:17:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: sneakypete (#24)

Peter Framton Comes Alive -

Yeah,I can see that one making the list.

LOL

I remember he did a concert at my college in the early 80s. By that time, he was obviously balding and had trimmed his hair short. There were literally girls crying asking "what happened to his hair?"

no gnu taxes  posted on  2018-06-25   20:26:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: GrandIsland (#25)

Pink Floyd

The Wall... maybe another top 10

I think "Dark Side of the Moon" was a much bigger hit album than The Wall.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2018-06-25   20:29:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: no gnu taxes (#29)

Maybe so... but The Wall was more than 15 songs on vinyl.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-06-25   20:41:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: GrandIsland, no gnu taxes (#30)

Maybe so... but The Wall was more than 15 songs on vinyl.

Rare that I agree with GI; "The Wall" was much more. Try a video link authored by Roger Walters. Turn up the volume of your surround speaker system. You won't regret it.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-06-25   22:11:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: buckeroo (#31)

But The Dark Side of the Moon was on charts for more than 15 years. I think it was still on the charts after The Wall dropped off.

I'm not saying The Wall wasn't a good album.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2018-06-25   22:26:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: buckeroo (#31)

Rare that I agree with GI

Please don’t ever repeat that ever again. Now wash your filthy maw out with a Tide Pod.

(I’ll try the link tomorrow morning over java).

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-06-25   22:27:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Jameson (#15)

Jameson you have a redeeming value. You like high voltage. That could also be the best debut album.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-06-25   23:54:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Liberator (#11)

Gordon murdered his own mother. (Dunno if Mr. Baker beats that. Don't get Netflix.)

Well, I don't think Ginger killed Mom, but you can decide for yourself here:

https://youtu.be/d7h8CqYXEx0

Hank Rearden  posted on  2018-06-25   23:58:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Liberator (#12)

Thus far an excellent vid and explanation on youtube.

I understand the principle behind their theory, but I don't know what 99% of the referenced songs sound like because I don't listen to shit.

See how pervasive the rot is? I never listen to the shit and yet ...... I know it's shit.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2018-06-26   0:03:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: GrandIsland (#33)

I’ll try the link tomorrow morning over java

You should call into the captain ... that you are munching on piles of jelly-filled doughnuts along with your kup(s) o' koffee so as to avoid personal reliability reports against your personal performance.

Tell the boss, "you deserve it."

buckeroo  posted on  2018-06-26   0:04:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: buckeroo (#31)

Rare that I agree with GI; "The Wall" was much more. Try a video link authored by Roger Walters. Turn up the volume of your surround speaker system. You won't regret it.

Blues from the 25th Century.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-06-26   0:44:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Jameson (#26)

Enjoy the music you like, I couldn't care less about your opinion if all you can manage is "none of their crap is even semi-good"

Punk rock is for posers that can't play actual music.

"If you can't play good,play fast and loud".

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-06-26   0:46:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Liberator (#0)

Just a few debut albums that were influential:

1950's

Elvis Presley - Elvis Presley 1956
Chuck Berry - After School Session 1956
The Crickets (Buddy Holly) - The "Chirping" Crickets 1957

1960's

The Beatles - Please Please Me 1963
Are You Experienced - The Jimi Hendrix Experience 1967
Truth - Jeff Beck 1968

1970's

Can't Buy A Thrill - Steely Dan 1972
The Clash - The Clash 1977
Elvis Costello - My Aim Is True 1977

1980's

U2 - Boy 1980
Stevie Ray Vaughan - Texas Flood 1982
R.E.M. - Murmur 1983
The Smithereens - Especially for You 1986
Tommy Keene - Songs From The Film - 1986

1990's

Copper Blue - Sugar 1992
New Miserable Experience - Gin Blossoms 1992

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Trump: My People Should ‘Sit Up in Attention’ Like Kim Jong-un’s Staff.

Deckard  posted on  2018-06-26   9:19:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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