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Title: Judge to ponder dismissal of Palin e-mail lawsuit
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Published: Dec 23, 2009
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Post Date: 2009-12-23 23:20:41 by A K A Stone
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ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) — An Anchorage judge will likely wait until 2010 before deciding whether state public records law governs the e-mail messages that former Gov. Sarah Palin and her top administration officials sent to one another outside of the state's computer network. Andree McLeod of Anchorage has been seeking copies of the messages. She says in a lawsuit that Palin and her officials violated the public records law by using off-the-record networks to discuss matters of public concern. Assistant Attorney General Michael Mitchell on Tuesday asked state Superior Court Judge Patrick McKay to dismiss the case. McKay took the motion under advisement and said he will probably make a decision after the holidays.
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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)
The Alaska harpies, witches and hateful bitches, McLeod, Biegel, Moore, et al.
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
How would Andree McLeod of Anchorage know if Palin were discussing matters of public concern if she has never seen the messages that were sent outside of the state's computer network? If these were private messages, it doesn't matter what Palin and her top administration officials were discussing. Amendment IV The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
What computers were they using?
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
I don't know. The article doesn't give that information.
If they used government computers and used secondary accounts to bypass disclosure/sunshine laws or regulations - which I believe they did - then the lawsuit has merit.
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
Your "beliefs" don't have merit you fookin dunce!
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
You must have read more about this than I have then, and more than just this article?
Sorry...that should be "non government" and my "which" reference was vague. To restate - I believe that they used these accounts SOLELY as an attempt to bypass sunshine regs.
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
To restate, Your "beliefs" don't have merit you fookin dunce!
Sneakypete, have you ever been married? Said things you later regretted?
Palin prevails in e-mail suit www.alaskadispatch.com/al...n-prevails-in-e-mail-suit The Associated Press reports that a state judge ruled Friday that ex-Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin did not violate state law by using her private e-mail account to conduct state business. Andree McLeod, a Palin critic, had sued in state court for release of Palin's private e-mails dealing with state business under the state's public records law. Earlier this month, Alaska Dispatch obtained and published a batch of the sort of e-mails McLeod wanted to see. E-mails sent during the second month of the Palin administration clearly show then-Gov. Palin discussing state business on her personal Yahoo account. Among the examples: -- A Jan. 13, 2007, e-mail Palin sent to then-Chief of Staff Mike Tibbles' personal account (and copied to others in her inner circle) discussing candidates for various state jobs. "I know Ryan Colgan bugs folks," Palin wrote, "but he is supportive and wants a job so he can help. Why not find a spot for him somewhere in the 17,000 state employee group?" She went on to criticize Ron Miller, who had headed the Alaska Industrial Export and Development Authority under Gov. Frank Murkowski: "Ron Miller and others who made very poor decisions must be replaced with more sensible Alaskans who will not squander public funds. My discussions with Andrew (Halcro) sure has convinced me (as I was convinced after 10 months on the trail with him) that he agrees with me that we MUST clean up state government." Halcro ran against Palin in the 2006 gubernatorial election as an independent. Weeks after this e-mail, he and Palin had a falling out and Halcro began criticizing the governor on his blog, eventually breaking the so-called Troopergate scandal that embroiled Palin as she leaped to the national stage in late summer 2008. -- A Jan. 28, 2007, e-mail from Palin's personal account went out to a list of high-level staff and commissioners' state e-mails encouraging them to speak freely to the press. The note was in response to an item in the Anchorage Daily News' Alaska Ear about whether members of her administration were banned from speaking to the media. "I have NEVER banned any of our team members from voicing opinions on anything," she told her commissioners and others. -- On Jan. 30, 2007, Palin sent an e-mail from her Yahoo account to several of her advisors' personal accounts to discuss candidates for Fish and Game Board appointments, including one candidate who she described as a "strange dude" who "sounds pretty crazy."
I believe you are right. BTW, why haven't you been on LP?
Packass had Goldi ban me for illegal use of hyperbole. It can be denied as much as either of them want to...but I am no longer allowed to post there even tho packass said that he wouldn't "sue" me for what Gokdi said I could be sued for... That sums up the illogic right there...
gopqueefingroom.com
IIRC, my point was that if the accounts were used to EVADE state requirements there was a de facto "mens rea" and the emails should be "discoverable"... She's less relevant to the public debate anyway...the new GOP strategy is simply "We ain't Obama"...if the GOP should somehow regain the WH in the next couple of presidential cycles he might be made Secretary of Hypocrisy but that's about as far as she'll go... My Dad used to have a saying that was a corollary to the Peter Principle..."The further up the flag pole a monkey goes the more of his ass he shows..." that is applicable to her...
gopqueefingroom.com
packrat took up for you, on that point anyway. He went on to say banning you was probably justified for you being an all round annoying dumbass. I don't like to see anybody banned from any forum, but I couldn't think of a counter argument.
Packrat is a two faced sniveling little coward...he had been trying to get me banned for over a year...it was his next personal mission after getting glc banned. And for as much shit as you get for who you are and what you do - especially by me...I have to say that you always sat there and took it and never complained... I don't like to see anybody banned from any forum, but I couldn't think of a counter argument. Okay...I laughed but considering how often you've had accounts closed or limited there and have been allowed to reappear it's kind of disingenuous for you to "say" that... Look...I was doomed to go there...it was just a matter of when...not why...
gopqueefingroom.com
Unless packrat sent some private email to Goldi that no one knows about, he had nothing to do with getting you banned. I thought it was a pretty obvious and often used bit of rhetoric that anybody who has been on Internet forums more than one day should have recognized, but I can't read her mind and i don't communicate with her. But what's the problem? Tuck your tail between your legs, roll over and pee on your belly and you are back over there. Pride is a sin.
IIRC, that was your point and I believe you were correct. Why else would a public official use a private email account to discuss state business?
Well, I've been posting a lot of Palin's own statements so I'll probably be next. You know how they feel about exposing the pseudo sacred psycho virgin as less than conservative.
I didn't do anything wrong and in the same situation I'd use the same illustration to make that point. It has nothing to do with pride...
gopqueefingroom.com
Great use of iliteration, dude...
gopqueefingroom.com
Some time last year, packass and Goldi were discussing something and packass said that that he'd contact Goldi directly with more information. ON the day that I was banned, I tried to post something but got booted when I hit send and then couldn't log back because I was "suspended" so I emailed her right away and asked what the problem was. I heard nothing. About a half an hour later, Goldi's post announcing my suspension appeared. After I read that post, she got a second email from me - probably within 2 minutes of that post - stating that I would not apologize...and good luck and happy trails...I got a total of one email from her which came two days later...again i told her happy trails and thanks for the years... I have no doubt that packass contacted her demanding action.
gopqueefingroom.com
The above is for you...sorry...
gopqueefingroom.com
I said a long time ago there that if packrat wants a poster banned, it eventually gets banned, and often sooner than later.
He's a sniveling little shit of a man who was far too magnanimous... Look...to frame this in its proper perspective, Obama's life has been threatened on that board more than once and in fairly direct terms...me stating that I had third hand information that someone whose name is an unknown is a pedophile and framed in the logic and context of what the initial post on the thread was, was a very weak reason... The bottom line here is that she wanted me gone...so I'm gone...it is what it is...I'm here now, under the same terms as there which is for however long Stoney wants me here and I am just as happy as I am on any other day of the week...
gopqueefingroom.com
I have no doubt you are fine with it. The constantly dog piling there becomes tedious and boring, plus they seem to be immune to the fact that that behavior does rub off and taint their so called arguments.
Your fookin whining, crying, pissing and moaning is pathetic. Suck it up buttercups. Sneakypete, have you ever been married? Said things you later regretted?
I decided to go ahead and ban myself from that cuckoo's nest, but I'm sure Nurse Ratched would have gotten around to it eventually.
I spent the last year kind of looking over my shoulder...the day that I was banned it was six of one, half a dozen of the other as to which post it was that caused it because it was a half of an hour from her "suspending" the account to her actually posting why... I actually laughed my ass off when I read why but I ***think*** that reaction was going to happen no matter what because I always knew that packass would be behind it...
gopqueefingroom.com
I also happened to notice that your banning occurred after someone stated that she was allowing you to post (in spite of your evil self) so that she could still count on your generous donations. I think that embarrassed her and, goodness knows, this is not a person who likes to be publically embarrassed. So, she took your money first and then banned you. HELLO, BTW.
Hiya cookie!
Hey!!! Welcome aboard. FWIW, I have no issue with Goldi in any way, shape or form. It was time to move on.
gopqueefingroom.com
Howdy. Nice to touch base again. Are you waiting with breath that is bated for the Derby?
I understand (although just who got taken to the woodshed and when seemed erratic and suspect, at best). I lost interest in the site as it appeared to be going in the direction of too many "hoods" to suit me. Some of the comments about Haiti were deplorable. I really didn't think people would sink so low. Oh well, I guess it's simply an indicator about how these people feel about their own lives. It did prompt me to make a donation to Doctors Without Borders...LOL.
Americans have donated nearly a half BILLION dollars thus far to Haiti relief organizations.. Hopefully it won't be stolen!
Sneakypete, have you ever been married? Said things you later regretted?
Andree McLeod
#2. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#3. To: We The People (#2)
If these were private messages, it doesn't matter what Palin and her top administration officials were discussing.
#4. To: war (#3)
What computers were they using?
#5. To: We The People (#4)
#6. To: war (#5)
which I believe they did - then the lawsuit has merit.
#7. To: war (#5)
If they used government computers and used secondary accounts to bypass disclosure/sunshine laws or regulations - which I believe they did - then the lawsuit has merit.
#8. To: We The People (#7)
#9. To: war, We The People (#8)
To restate - I believe
#10. To: war (#8)
#11. To: war (#5)
If they used government computers and used secondary accounts to bypass disclosure/sunshine laws or regulations - which I believe they did - then the lawsuit has merit.
#12. To: We The People, packrat1145 (#11)
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#13. To: We The People (#10)
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#14. To: war (#12)
#15. To: dont eat that (#14)
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#16. To: war (#15)
#17. To: war (#13)
IIRC, my point was that if the accounts were used to EVADE state requirements there was a de facto "mens rea" and the emails should be "discoverable"...
#18. To: war (#12)
Packass had Goldi ban me for illegal use of hyperbole.
#19. To: dont eat that (#16)
#20. To: We The People (#18)
pseudo sacred psycho virgin
#21. To: We The People (#17)
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Unless packrat sent some private email to Goldi
#22. To: dont eat that (#21)
#23. To: war (#21)
#24. To: mininggold (#23)
#25. To: war (#24)
...I'm here now, under the same terms as there which is for however long Stoney wants me here and I am just as happy as I am on any other day of the week...
#26. To: mininggold, war, We the People, All (#25)
I'm here now,
#27. To: war (#24)
#28. To: Bartcoprules (#27)
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#29. To: war, Bartcoprules (#28)
I spent the last year kind of looking over my shoulder...the day that I was banned it was six of one, half a dozen of the other as to which post it was that caused it because it was a half of an hour from her "suspending" the account to her actually posting why...
#30. To: Suzanne (#29)
#31. To: Suzanne (#29)
#32. To: Fred Mertz (#30)
Hiya cookie!
#33. To: war (#31)
I have no issue with Goldi in any way, shape or form. It was time to move on.
#34. To: Suzanne (#33)
It did prompt me to make a donation to Doctors Without Borders...LOL.
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