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Title: Judge to ponder dismissal of Palin e-mail lawsuit
Source: .webcenter11.com
URL Source: http://www.webcenter11.com/news/sta ... 8MD-UqPOdKY3w3dmw.cspx?rss=201
Published: Dec 23, 2009
Author: unattributed
Post Date: 2009-12-23 23:20:41 by A K A Stone
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Comments: 34

ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) — An Anchorage judge will likely wait until 2010 before deciding whether state public records law governs the e-mail messages that former Gov. Sarah Palin and her top administration officials sent to one another outside of the state's computer network. Andree McLeod of Anchorage has been seeking copies of the messages. She says in a lawsuit that Palin and her officials violated the public records law by using off-the-record networks to discuss matters of public concern. Assistant Attorney General Michael Mitchell on Tuesday asked state Superior Court Judge Patrick McKay to dismiss the case. McKay took the motion under advisement and said he will probably make a decision after the holidays.

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#2. To: A K A Stone (#0)

How would Andree McLeod of Anchorage know if Palin were discussing matters of public concern if she has never seen the messages that were sent outside of the state's computer network?

If these were private messages, it doesn't matter what Palin and her top administration officials were discussing.

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-25   20:48:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: We The People (#2)

If these were private messages, it doesn't matter what Palin and her top administration officials were discussing.

What computers were they using?

war  posted on  2009-12-26   13:07:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: war (#3)

What computers were they using?

I don't know. The article doesn't give that information.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-26   13:31:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: We The People (#4)

If they used government computers and used secondary accounts to bypass disclosure/sunshine laws or regulations - which I believe they did - then the lawsuit has merit.

war  posted on  2009-12-28   8:44:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: war (#5)

If they used government computers and used secondary accounts to bypass disclosure/sunshine laws or regulations - which I believe they did - then the lawsuit has merit.

You must have read more about this than I have then, and more than just this article?

We The People  posted on  2009-12-28   20:01:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: We The People (#7)

Sorry...that should be "non government" and my "which" reference was vague.

To restate - I believe that they used these accounts SOLELY as an attempt to bypass sunshine regs.

war  posted on  2009-12-29   8:20:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: war (#8)

Palin prevails in e-mail suit

www.alaskadispatch.com/al...n-prevails-in-e-mail-suit

The Associated Press reports that a state judge ruled Friday that ex-Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin did not violate state law by using her private e-mail account to conduct state business. Andree McLeod, a Palin critic, had sued in state court for release of Palin's private e-mails dealing with state business under the state's public records law. Earlier this month, Alaska Dispatch obtained and published a batch of the sort of e-mails McLeod wanted to see. E-mails sent during the second month of the Palin administration clearly show then-Gov. Palin discussing state business on her personal Yahoo account. Among the examples:

-- A Jan. 13, 2007, e-mail Palin sent to then-Chief of Staff Mike Tibbles' personal account (and copied to others in her inner circle) discussing candidates for various state jobs. "I know Ryan Colgan bugs folks," Palin wrote, "but he is supportive and wants a job so he can help. Why not find a spot for him somewhere in the 17,000 state employee group?" She went on to criticize Ron Miller, who had headed the Alaska Industrial Export and Development Authority under Gov. Frank Murkowski: "Ron Miller and others who made very poor decisions must be replaced with more sensible Alaskans who will not squander public funds. My discussions with Andrew (Halcro) sure has convinced me (as I was convinced after 10 months on the trail with him) that he agrees with me that we MUST clean up state government." Halcro ran against Palin in the 2006 gubernatorial election as an independent. Weeks after this e-mail, he and Palin had a falling out and Halcro began criticizing the governor on his blog, eventually breaking the so-called Troopergate scandal that embroiled Palin as she leaped to the national stage in late summer 2008.

-- A Jan. 28, 2007, e-mail from Palin's personal account went out to a list of high-level staff and commissioners' state e-mails encouraging them to speak freely to the press. The note was in response to an item in the Anchorage Daily News' Alaska Ear about whether members of her administration were banned from speaking to the media. "I have NEVER banned any of our team members from voicing opinions on anything," she told her commissioners and others.

-- On Jan. 30, 2007, Palin sent an e-mail from her Yahoo account to several of her advisors' personal accounts to discuss candidates for Fish and Game Board appointments, including one candidate who she described as a "strange dude" who "sounds pretty crazy."

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#13. To: We The People (#10) (Edited)

IIRC, my point was that if the accounts were used to EVADE state requirements there was a de facto "mens rea" and the emails should be "discoverable"...

She's less relevant to the public debate anyway...the new GOP strategy is simply "We ain't Obama"...if the GOP should somehow regain the WH in the next couple of presidential cycles he might be made Secretary of Hypocrisy but that's about as far as she'll go...

My Dad used to have a saying that was a corollary to the Peter Principle..."The further up the flag pole a monkey goes the more of his ass he shows..." that is applicable to her...

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