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Title: Why The Man Who Blew The Lid Off Area 51 In The 1970’s Has Gained A LOT More Credibility
Source: Lew Rockwell/Collecive Evolution
URL Source: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/06/no_author/683259-2/
Published: Jun 12, 2018
Author: Arjun Walia
Post Date: 2018-06-12 10:20:01 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 7715
Comments: 27

The now famous ‘Area 51’ is no longer a conspiracy., in fact it left that realm years ago when the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) officially declassified its existence, as a place where the military was testing advanced ariel technology. But, if you really want to know the truth about hidden military bases, we’ve already covered that, and you can find links to those articles below. There is more than just one Area 51, that’s important to keep in mind, especially if this ‘classified’ world is being funded with our tax dollars. You can read more about that below and see a few examples for yourself.

Bob Lazar is one of the people who initially blew the lid off the secrecy of places like Area 51. He is a man who is admired by many in the field, simply because his story has always remained consistent. He  knew the location and description of this base, decades before it was recently made public a few years ago.

His story also corroborates with many whistle-blowers who actually have verified backgrounds from within various sects of the military, government, and entire military industrial complex, which is also a phenomenon that exploded long after Lazar started speaking. There are many examples to choose from, like Steve Justice, the recently retired Director of Advanced Systems at Lockheed Skunkworks, or former director, Ben Rich, who has made multiple comments on UFO technology. There are literally hundreds of these types of people from within who are now speaking out.

Furthermore, at the end of 2017 the UFO topic took a turn, the US government released official video footage, radar tracking (electroptical) data, and pilot testimony, as well as admitting to recovering materials from these crafts.

I go into more detail about that in the linked article below I recently published.

Many are skeptical, as they should be with anything that comes from our governments. The people have lost much trust in them, and we’re starting to realize that we cannot continue relying on this system.

Lazar hit the mainstream and became quite popular after claiming to have worked on reverse engineering extraterrestrial technology at a site called S-4, near the Area 51 facility. He’s also mentioned information about extraterrestrials and the fact that there are multiple groups, some of which have been in contact with several global governments.

“Everything is in a process of investigation both in the United States and in Spain, as well as the rest of the world. The nations of the world are currently working together in the investigation of the UFO phenomenon. There is an international exchange of data.” – General Carlos Castro Cavero (1979).

He also claims to have been in contact with Edward Teller, a Hungarian-American theoretical physicist, known as “the father of the hydrogen bomb.” On a side note, individuals of Teller’s stature have long been speaking up about the UFO issue. Take one of the founding fathers of modern rocketry, Hermann Oberth, who stated that:

“It is my thesis that flying saucers are real and that they are space ships from another solar system. I think that they possibly are manned by intelligent observers who are members of a race that may have been investigating our Earth for centuries.” (source)

He met teller at a conference and had a brief discussion with him. Lazar sent him a resume inquiring about a job. Lazar said that, “Dr Teller responded by telephone and told me that he was no longer active, but just functioned in a consultant capacity. He gave me the name of a contact to call in Las Vegas, I made that call and things progressed from there.”

When Teller was asked on camera if he knew Bob Lazar, he refused to answer and said if asked again, he will “sit silently.”  You can see a clip of that segment near the end of this video.

Here’s one of Lazar’s most recent interviews.

Lazar currently runs a business called United Nuclear, where he  maintains the availability of scientific equipment, supplies & chemicals to the general public, experimenters, and learning institutions. They make basic scientific supplies as well as difficult to find, rare and unusual science-related products available to the hobbyist, teacher, experimenter and professional organizations.

Joe Rogan & Time Delonge

These two names have been quite popular, personally, I believe Delonge might be being used by some powerful people, as well as others, to put out the truth, but at the same time, and probably not knowing it, share some disinformation. But again, I mention that in one of the articles linked above which specifically speaks about that more in-depth.

I mention these two here because in a Joe Rogan Podcast with Tom Delonge, both of them mentioned Bob Lazar and both believed (Tom had no doubt given who he is currently surrounded by and the stories he’s probably heard)

To read more of our articles on the Extraterrestrial/UFO Phenomenon, click here.

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

Mechanical UFOs are of terrestrial origin and are man-made.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-06-12   10:22:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Vicomte13 (#1) (Edited)

Mechanical UFOs are of terrestrial origin and are man-made.

Many star systems in our own galaxy are millions of years older than Earth. You'd think they would have developed faster-than-light travel to come pay us a visit (if FTL were possible).

Meaning it's not possible. Neither is time travel for the same reason. It would have been done.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-06-12   11:15:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: misterwhite (#2)

Meaning it's not possible. Neither is time travel for the same reason. It would have been done.

And the sky would be full of chatter, of the radio signals emitted hundreds, thousands, millions, billions of years ago, by every civilization in its turn, as it crossed the threshold into telecommunications. Sure, eventually they might go on to something else, but we're 102 years into the era of radio broadcasting, and those signals go straight out into space and travel forever. If you pointed a parabola at earth from Mars, you could listen to the radio. Ditto for Pluto. And points beyond.

The radio transmitters on the Voyager craft are not massively strong, but their signals travel true and clear across oceans of space and time now that they are out past Pluto, and we both get the signals, and are able to send commands.

We would not get every radio signal ever sent, but we would get a lot of it, from everywhere.

The fact that we never get any, from anywhere, means that spontaneous evolution of life from non-living matter does not occur - not anywhere else, and therefore not here either.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-06-12   14:35:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Vicomte13 (#3)

We would not get every radio signal ever sent, but we would get a lot of it, from everywhere.

But alien civilizations could have existed millions of years ago and died out. They're no longer broadcasting.

Or they're broadcasting right now, but we won't pick up the signal for another 100,000 years. Or they're not broadcasting in our direction. Or their signal can't pass through the Milky Way.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-06-12   14:53:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: misterwhite (#4)

The problem is the sheer number of earths - not planets, earthlike planets. According to NASA, there are 60 sextillion of them. Which puts over a quadrillion of them in every pixel-point of the sky.

So, sure, some civilizations would be older, some newer, all sorts of phases. But there are too many places in all directions, for there not to be SOME signal from SOMEWHERE.

The sky is silent. Therefore, life did not evolve from non-life.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-06-12   15:22:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Vicomte13 (#5)

"According to NASA, there are 60 sextillion of them."

In the universe which is 93 billion light-years across and 14 billion years old. You've got time and distance working against those 60 sextillion.

We've been listening for how long? 30 years with SETI? Over a 14 billion year period of alien civilizations coming and going?

misterwhite  posted on  2018-06-12   15:59:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: misterwhite (#6)

But the signals emitted from all of those worlds - too many to simply reduce to a handful (if evolution happens) would have been emitted over billions of years. The skies would be full of them.

Nary a one.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-06-12   16:15:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Vicomte13 (#8)

would have been emitted over billions of years.

True. But once a signal passes Earth, the signal is gone forever.

How long do civilizations last? Forever? If so, then you could be right if they've been constantly broadcasting ever since they were able to, with a signal strong enough for us to detect over their distance from us, with nothing getting in the way or bending that signal away from us.

Again, what are those odds?

misterwhite  posted on  2018-06-12   16:31:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: misterwhite (#10)

True. But once a signal passes Earth, the signal is gone forever.

If you sat out there and listened to the earth, the broadcasts would begin in 1916 and would be continuous until today, with an ever expanding number of signals. The first broadcast radio was, I believe, from the Eiffel Tower. Thereafter, radio proliferated. So, pointed in the direction of earth, once the signals began to be received, circa 1916, they would never cease, and would increase in volume and number, until they were a veritable beacon across the spectrum, blazing away in so many different languages.

Other planets might go differently, but with sextillions out there, trillions of trillions - quadrillions, quintillions of them - would have to be about the same. And we would be able to hear at least ONE.

But nothing. Nothing ever. The skies are silent. And that silence is itself data. It's not merely the absence of data. It's a persistent data point of zero.

Sure, there are reasons why we might detect nothing, etc., etc. But our scientific knowledge was pretty sophisticated back in 1945, when we invented the bomb based on theories, and we'd already been to the moon many times by 1973, when SETI really got going.

SETI was a full on project of some of the brightest minds in NASA and aerospace around the world. This was not some kid's science project. Their LOGIC was what I have conveyed: given that evolution is a simple fact of chemistry, and given the vast number of planets that must be out there with habitable conditions, that life MUST HAVE evolved on many of them. And given our own behavior, as evolved life, with our own electromagnetic signals pounding out into space, other evolved species MUST have gone through that same period, or still be in it. Given the sheer number of planets, and the simple chemical evolution of life, life MUST be out there, and MUST evolve, where it can, upwards, and lots of worlds are older, so there MUST be species that have been broadcasting, or gone through that period, before us or contemporary with us. And those signals are still moving at the speed of light across the universe. There is very little to attenuate them.

Sure, there COULD be various problems to block it, but they did not spend all of that money on SETI, erecting those dishes in various places all over the world, as a full-on national aerospace project, based on naïve science and naïve scientists. They set up those antennae with that logic fully expecting they would hear something. They considered that things might be on different frequencies, so they listened and recorded on a very broad band.

One weekend several years ago, there was a worldwide project to hook up private computers everywhere for a weekend to create a cloud that would be able to process massive amounts of the stored data. It was figured that if there ever was a time when the hidden signals embedded in those feeds would produce something, that it would be then.

But silence. There was nothing there. Still isn't. That was not what the top scientific minds in the world expected. At all. Millions upon millions of dollars, and whole professional careers have been devoted to this project, and it HAS produced data. The data points are 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0...

Sure, the coup-de-theatre having failed to come off, all sorts of "Yes, but..." arguments can be made, excuses can be devised. Had the atomic bomb failed to detonate in 1945 there would have been the same excuses. But of course the bomb did go off, and that was because the scientific minds that devised it and transformed it from theory to practice were brilliant. That is no less true of the astrophysicists who devised SETI. They applied rigorous logic and method to devise a means to find what they were pretty certain was out there. This wasn't a kid's science project but a heavily funded worldwide effort, and it's still going.

That NOTHING would be heard in all of those years would have been a preposterous suggestion to those astrophysicists and NASA and worldwide PhD's who devised SETI. Evolutionary theory DICTATES that life has to be out there, given the numbers of planets and the natural origins of life. And life should evolve towards greater intelligence everywhere it is. Planets are older than earth. The residual transmissions of old civilizations should be reverberating about the cosmos. They SHOULD be out there.

That the skies are SILENT is an unexpected result. Nobody who invested the millions and the years of their lives in SETI believed that the answer would be zero. That is preposterous. Evolution DEMANDS that life be out there, and that some of it be advanced, and that we should at least catch a stray signal once in awhile.

Given how sensitive our equipment is, we detect faint radiation from the Big Bang. Surely we can detect systematic frequencies. It's obvious. The transmissions HAVE to be there.

But they're NOT. And the implications of that are a big deal. Sure, we can consider all of the possible reasons why we hear nothing: insensitive equipment, signal attenuation, interference, etc. But we need to acknowledge that the scientists who designed and maintain the project are not amateurs. They designed something to be state of the art, and to mitigate those factors as much as feasible.

We have to consider the more direct implication: the silence of the skies means we are alone in the cosmos. There is no other life, anywhere. Which actually means that, from the perspective of living, thinking creatures, earth IS the center of the universe for everything important. This should not be a distressing thought either way.

The silence of the skies is a strong counterindicator of the theory of evolution.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-06-12   18:39:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#15. To: Vicomte13 (#13)

We cannot see anything on the other side of our own galaxy. How can we detect radio signals? 200 billion planets could be having a block party in our own galaxy and we wouldn't even know.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-06-12 20:58:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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: the silence of the skies means we are alone in the cosmos. There is no other life, anywhere.

New radio telescopes are still being built to search for life: ---

New biggest radio telescope to help detect alien signals

China plans to build another big radio telescope that could boost the quest to determine if we're alone in the universe, and solve other long-standing mysteries.

BY ERIC MACK JANUARY 17, 2018 2:28 PM PST

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