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Title: FBI Agent Accidentally Discharges Firearm
Source: Fox News
URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/06/0 ... ncing-at-denver-nightclub.html
Published: Jun 3, 2018
Author: Katherine Lam
Post Date: 2018-06-03 11:57:31 by misterwhite
Keywords: None
Views: 20024
Comments: 109

An off-duty FBI agent accidentally fired his gun, striking another patron in the leg, at a Denver nightclub while he was dancing early Saturday, police said.

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#1. To: All (#0)

Sookie, Sookie, Sookie, Sookie, Sookie, Sookie, BLAM.

Bet it was a Glock.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-06-03   12:03:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: misterwhite (#1) (Edited)

Lawsuit time.

It seems from the video that the gun fell out and went off when he picked it up to put it back in his holster. He was trying to a backflip for the crowd.

He's kinda old to do backflips so it wasn't perfect but it was pretty good for a big man. Usually big guys have problems wrapping their height and mass fast enough to do any kind of backflip.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-06-03   13:37:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Tooconservative (#2)

and went off when he picked it up to put it back in his holster.

Light trigger.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-06-03   16:16:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: misterwhite (#6)

Light trigger.

I get the feeling you're not shopping for a Glock. Just a hunch...

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-06-03   17:02:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Tooconservative (#7)

I get the feeling you're not shopping for a Glock. Just a hunch...

Not for concealed carry with one in the chamber, no safety, and a 5-pound trigger. You can shoot your eye out.

I'll settle for my S&W 642 with no safety but a 12-pound trigger (DA only).

Leave the Glock in the bedside table drawer where you have time to rack a round.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-06-03   17:48:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: misterwhite (#8)

Leave the Glock in the bedside table drawer where you have time to rack a round.

I tend toward this with my Glock but others here tell me the pistol is considered unloaded unless it has a shell in the chamber at all times.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-06-03   18:21:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Tooconservative (#10)

but others here tell me the pistol is considered unloaded unless it has a shell in the chamber at all times.

They're correct. It's a paperweight. But it's safe.

You'll have plenty of time to "load" it if it is for self-defense in the home, given that all you have to do is pull the slide and release it. Who knows, the sound of you doing that may scare the intruder away.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-06-03   18:42:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: misterwhite (#12)

They're correct. It's a paperweight. But it's safe.

A classic video to show why all these people keep telling us not to carry without a round in the chamber. This storeowner got himself and his son killed while trying to just get a round into the chamber.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-06-04   9:14:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Tooconservative (#18)

I agree. Always have one on the chamber. But it's dangerous with a light trigger and no external safety. For a semi-auto concealed carry, the best solution is a DA/SA weapon where the first shot requires 10-12 pounds.

Another problem I've seen are with the push button locking style holsters for open carry to keep the gun secure. The user presses the button on the holster to release the firearm. But some users keep pressing, their finger slips into the trigger guard, and the gun fires. Happened to this guy:

misterwhite  posted on  2018-06-04   9:43:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: misterwhite, sneakypete (#19) (Edited)

I get your point but I think he had cleared the holster by several inches when he ventilated his leg. Maybe sneaky has an opinion.

So hard to have 100.000000% safety and keep that itchy finger from slipping to its natural position over the trigger, even with very experienced shooters.

Here's your video with the link corrected so pete can see it.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-06-04   11:22:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Tooconservative (#20) (Edited)

Maybe sneaky has an opinion.

My opinion is I have no sympathy for anyone that shoots himself while carrying a Glock or similar pistol.

Seems to me to be inevitable,providing they don't accidentally shoot someone else first by accident and get it taken away.

I will never carry a striker fired weapon,period. If you give me one I will sell it.

These days I almost always carry a revolver. A 9 shot 22 snubnose pocket pistol for messing around in the yard or walking to the shop in case I stumble upon a rabid animal or poisonous snake,and a DAO Rossi 44 Special with a 3 inch barrel for social work if I go to a city. It only holds 5 rounds which makes some people think I am nuts,but if I have to shoot it more than 5 times chances are there are going to be a couple of other guns laying around with nobody using them that I can pick up.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-06-04   20:14:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: sneakypete (#29)

" DAO Rossi 44 Special with a 3 inch barrel for social work "

What happened Pete ? I thought you carried a Charter Arms of same caliber and configuration . What caused the change ?

Stoner  posted on  2018-06-06   21:11:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Stoner (#58)

What happened Pete ? I thought you carried a Charter Arms of same caliber and configuration . What caused the change ?

I understand the Charter Arms are built better these days,but back in the 70's they were junk if you planned on shooting them much. I put 4 or 5 boxes of factory level 44 Special loads through mine,and it was already starting to look like it was going to have indexing/timing problems,so I sold it.

The Rossi is a whole nother animal,though. If I was 30 I doubt I would ever live long enough to shoot it loose using factory equivalent loads. Plus it is insanely accurate with Winchester 200 grain Silvertip hollowpoints.

Rossi is no longer in business,though. Taurus bought them out because they couldn't stand the competition,and ceased production of the 44 Special Rossi. It was smaller and build better than the Taurus 44 Special,so it had to be killed.

Look around for a good used one at gun shows,though. Since I know I can't buy another new one,I literally wouldn't sell mine for a thousand bucks in cash.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-06-06   21:19:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: sneakypete (#59)

Interesting. I am not in the market for such a toy, but if I ever decide to do so, I will keep your advice in mind. I was just curious, as I remember you talking about the charter arms before. Thanks

Stoner  posted on  2018-06-06   23:54:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Stoner (#60) (Edited)

Interesting. I am not in the market for such a toy, but if I ever decide to do so, I will keep your advice in mind.

BTW,I bought my Rossi,the DAO model with no trigger spur in stainless steel new in the box from a gun shop for $229.

Good luck finding even a used one for that kind of money now. Small enough to fit in a standard pants pocket,and no sharp edges to interfere with a draw.

Only downside is they are heavy,but heavy is good if you ever want to use stout loads,and even better if just using standard pressure loads because you will never shoot it loose.

Besides,other than the rubber grips,it's all steel,so it's supposed to be heavier than the alloy guns.

Also,besides being a weapons man in the army,I also have an associate degree in gunsmithing,and the double action trigger pull was so smooth right out of the box that I have never even considered taking the side cover off to do any work to it. It's the only revolver I have ever owned that needed nothing but to be loaded when I bought it.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-06-07   8:13:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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