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Title: FBI Agent Accidentally Discharges Firearm
Source: Fox News
URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/06/0 ... ncing-at-denver-nightclub.html
Published: Jun 3, 2018
Author: Katherine Lam
Post Date: 2018-06-03 11:57:31 by misterwhite
Keywords: None
Views: 25894
Comments: 109

An off-duty FBI agent accidentally fired his gun, striking another patron in the leg, at a Denver nightclub while he was dancing early Saturday, police said.

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#1. To: All (#0)

Sookie, Sookie, Sookie, Sookie, Sookie, Sookie, BLAM.

Bet it was a Glock.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-06-03   12:03:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: misterwhite (#1) (Edited)

Lawsuit time.

It seems from the video that the gun fell out and went off when he picked it up to put it back in his holster. He was trying to a backflip for the crowd.

He's kinda old to do backflips so it wasn't perfect but it was pretty good for a big man. Usually big guys have problems wrapping their height and mass fast enough to do any kind of backflip.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-06-03   13:37:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Tooconservative (#2)

and went off when he picked it up to put it back in his holster.

Light trigger.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-06-03   16:16:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: misterwhite (#6)

Light trigger.

I get the feeling you're not shopping for a Glock. Just a hunch...

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-06-03   17:02:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Tooconservative (#7)

I get the feeling you're not shopping for a Glock. Just a hunch...

Not for concealed carry with one in the chamber, no safety, and a 5-pound trigger. You can shoot your eye out.

I'll settle for my S&W 642 with no safety but a 12-pound trigger (DA only).

Leave the Glock in the bedside table drawer where you have time to rack a round.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-06-03   17:48:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: misterwhite (#8)

Leave the Glock in the bedside table drawer where you have time to rack a round.

I tend toward this with my Glock but others here tell me the pistol is considered unloaded unless it has a shell in the chamber at all times.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-06-03   18:21:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Tooconservative (#10)

but others here tell me the pistol is considered unloaded unless it has a shell in the chamber at all times.

They're correct. It's a paperweight. But it's safe.

You'll have plenty of time to "load" it if it is for self-defense in the home, given that all you have to do is pull the slide and release it. Who knows, the sound of you doing that may scare the intruder away.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-06-03   18:42:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: misterwhite (#12)

They're correct. It's a paperweight. But it's safe.

A classic video to show why all these people keep telling us not to carry without a round in the chamber. This storeowner got himself and his son killed while trying to just get a round into the chamber.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-06-04   9:14:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Tooconservative (#18)

This storeowner got himself and his son killed while trying to just get a round into the chamber.

I read another story where the bad guy was dragging the woman along by one arm. She got her weapon out but was unable to operate the slide to put one in the chamber.

Paperweight.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-06-04   11:34:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: misterwhite (#22) (Edited)

At some point, I'll probably weaken and reconsider my habit of not keeping a bullet in the chamber in my bedroom gun.

Some years back, my niece dropped by with her very busy and very snoopy toddlers. They got into everything, every closet, every drawer, etc. Regular pint-sized terrorists.

After that, I worried about having a bullet in the chamber in that situation. Some kids aren't trained to never touch the guns. Anyway, hers weren't AFAIK.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-06-04   11:57:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Tooconservative (#23)

I'll probably weaken and reconsider my habit of not keeping a bullet in the chamber in my bedroom gun.

Glocks don’t accidentally discharge on their own. If you follow the four basic firearm safety rules at all times, you’ll have no problems keeping the mag stuffed and “one up”.

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-06-04   23:30:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: GrandIsland (#36) (Edited)

If you follow the four basic firearm safety rules at all times,

This guy was a trained FBI agent with who knows how many hours of periodic classroom and range safety training. Yet he carried unholstered in the small of his back -- two big no-no's. Three, if it was a Glock.

Yet he didn't follow the rules. Match the gun to the person.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-06-05   8:54:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: misterwhite, GrandIsland (#38)

This guy was a trained FBI agent with who knows how many hours of periodic classroom and range safety training. Yet he carried unholstered in the small of his back -- two big no-no's. Three, if it was a Glock.

It was an odd choice really. And that isn't the small of the back. It's a gun jammed in your asscrack.

Ew. That's gross.

It's a shame he didn't shoot himself instead of some poor bystander.

And just walking away like nothing had happened after he had just discharged the gun and had no idea if someone was injured by it? The FBI should fire him for that alone. Complete recklessness with a firearm.

He really should have been arrested IMO. Reckless endangerment charges, maybe more depending on CO statutes.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-06-05   9:28:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Tooconservative (#39)

He really should have been arrested IMO. Reckless endangerment charges, maybe more depending on CO statutes.

I agree. He’d had been charged if he worked for my old department or the current place I work out of.

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-06-05   17:59:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: GrandIsland, misterwhite (#48)

He’d had been charged if he worked for my old department or the current place I work out of.

Did you two notice how he tucked his ass-gun back into his butt-crack?

He was wearing no belt which contributed to him dropping the gun to start with because his pants slid down low on his hips when he flipped.

Then when he tried to put the gun back in, he only put it into his waistband down to (but not including) the trigger guard! Two-thirds of the gun and most of its weight was just floating loose above his waistband. And his shirt was untucked. He's lucky he didn't drop it again as he walked away. With an untucked shirt, it would drop on the floor again unless he was fast enough to catch it. Gee, Sherlock, no need to hide the gun now after you already shot somebody.

And did you notice that no one has given out his name yet? What, are the FBI some protected class or something? Anyone else in America (including regular cops or soldiers) would have their names splashed all over the internet. But this guy? Apparently the FBI are too special to get named.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-06-05   18:26:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Tooconservative (#49)

Did you two notice how he tucked his ass-gun back into his butt-crack?

I hope the hot barrel burned his ass.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-06-05   18:39:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: misterwhite (#50)

I just looked again. Is there some kind of mini-holster there on the waistband? It looks like something is there but I can't tell if it is a cellphone holder or mini-holster or something else. Whatever it is, it is doesn't look big enough to hold that gun securely. I think it might be just a cellphone case.

Maybe your eyes are better than mine or you know more about back-holsters.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-06-05   18:50:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Tooconservative (#52)

There's something back there. It could be an inside-the-waistband holster with the top sticking out.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-06-05   21:40:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#62. To: misterwhite, GrandIsland, Liberator (#57)

At BearingArms, they had an update. The dancing fool has finally been ID'd:

The attorney for the man shot at a Denver bar over the weekend by a dancing FBI agent says the injury to his client’s leg is much worse than first reported.

Attorney Frank Azar says the gunshot hit a main artery and his client could have bled to death. The owners of Mile High Spirits and Distillery say it was one of their quick-thinking security guards who took off his belt and applied a tourniquet to the victim’s leg.

However, witnesses dispute the claim that it was a bar security guard who applied the tourniquet. A witness told Denver7’s Lance Hernandez that he used his belt to apply the tourniquet, and he is not employed, nor is he affiliated with the bar in any capacity.

There is now a chorus of growing outrage among the public as the agent waits to see if he will face charges in the case. The agent’s name is Chase Bishop, 29. He was visiting Denver, but works out of Washington D.C.

Some experts say after reviewing the videos several times, the case rises to the level of felony assault. Denver police say they are waiting on laboratory tests to determine whether Bishop will face charges.

“The main thing I’m concerned about is that he’s being given incredibly special treatment because he’s an FBI agent,” said attorney and legal expert David Lane. “Had that been ‘Joe Citizen’ in that bar doing exactly the same thing, the cops would have been there in a heartbeat. They would have slapped the cuffs on him and he would have been in jail on a fairly high bond. Because anybody acting that ridiculously stupid should be in jail on a high bond.”

Given his privileged treatment in this case, I have to wonder what senior bureaucrats at the Bureau or elsewhere in government he might be related to.

I'd like to see the videos of his little dance routine redone with the soundtrack to Abba's Dancing Queen.     : )

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-06-08 16:02:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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