An off-duty FBI agent accidentally fired his gun, striking another patron in the leg, at a Denver nightclub while he was dancing early Saturday, police said.
It seems from the video that the gun fell out and went off when he picked it up to put it back in his holster. He was trying to a backflip for the crowd.
He's kinda old to do backflips so it wasn't perfect but it was pretty good for a big man. Usually big guys have problems wrapping their height and mass fast enough to do any kind of backflip.
but others here tell me the pistol is considered unloaded unless it has a shell in the chamber at all times.
They're correct. It's a paperweight. But it's safe.
You'll have plenty of time to "load" it if it is for self-defense in the home, given that all you have to do is pull the slide and release it. Who knows, the sound of you doing that may scare the intruder away.
They're correct. It's a paperweight. But it's safe.
A classic video to show why all these people keep telling us not to carry without a round in the chamber. This storeowner got himself and his son killed while trying to just get a round into the chamber.
This storeowner got himself and his son killed while trying to just get a round into the chamber.
I read another story where the bad guy was dragging the woman along by one arm. She got her weapon out but was unable to operate the slide to put one in the chamber.
At some point, I'll probably weaken and reconsider my habit of not keeping a bullet in the chamber in my bedroom gun.
Some years back, my niece dropped by with her very busy and very snoopy toddlers. They got into everything, every closet, every drawer, etc. Regular pint-sized terrorists.
After that, I worried about having a bullet in the chamber in that situation. Some kids aren't trained to never touch the guns. Anyway, hers weren't AFAIK.
I'll probably weaken and reconsider my habit of not keeping a bullet in the chamber in my bedroom gun.
Glocks don’t accidentally discharge on their own. If you follow the four basic firearm safety rules at all times, you’ll have no problems keeping the mag stuffed and “one up”.
If you follow the four basic firearm safety rules at all times,
This guy was a trained FBI agent with who knows how many hours of periodic classroom and range safety training. Yet he carried unholstered in the small of his back -- two big no-no's. Three, if it was a Glock.
Yet he didn't follow the rules. Match the gun to the person.
This guy was a trained FBI agent with who knows how many hours of periodic classroom and range safety training. Yet he carried unholstered in the small of his back -- two big no-no's. Three, if it was a Glock.
It was an odd choice really. And that isn't the small of the back. It's a gun jammed in your asscrack.
Ew. That's gross.
It's a shame he didn't shoot himself instead of some poor bystander.
And just walking away like nothing had happened after he had just discharged the gun and had no idea if someone was injured by it? The FBI should fire him for that alone. Complete recklessness with a firearm.
He really should have been arrested IMO. Reckless endangerment charges, maybe more depending on CO statutes.
He’d had been charged if he worked for my old department or the current place I work out of.
Did you two notice how he tucked his ass-gun back into his butt-crack?
He was wearing no belt which contributed to him dropping the gun to start with because his pants slid down low on his hips when he flipped.
Then when he tried to put the gun back in, he only put it into his waistband down to (but not including) the trigger guard! Two-thirds of the gun and most of its weight was just floating loose above his waistband. And his shirt was untucked. He's lucky he didn't drop it again as he walked away. With an untucked shirt, it would drop on the floor again unless he was fast enough to catch it. Gee, Sherlock, no need to hide the gun now after you already shot somebody.
And did you notice that no one has given out his name yet? What, are the FBI some protected class or something? Anyone else in America (including regular cops or soldiers) would have their names splashed all over the internet. But this guy? Apparently the FBI are too special to get named.
I just looked again. Is there some kind of mini-holster there on the waistband? It looks like something is there but I can't tell if it is a cellphone holder or mini-holster or something else. Whatever it is, it is doesn't look big enough to hold that gun securely. I think it might be just a cellphone case.
Maybe your eyes are better than mine or you know more about back-holsters.
I would think he was wearing some kind of hybrid, IWB holster. They are designed for concealment, and all hybrid holsters have ZERO weapon retention. All the ones I own, if you put the gun in it and turn it upside down, the gun will fall out (tho wearing them, inside your pant waistband, under a belt, does improve weapon retention).
They are designed for concealment, and all hybrid holsters have ZERO weapon retention.
It sounds reckless. I always think of PD detectives and FBI with shoulder harness or a side holster or a front-holster where the gun is a lot more secure.
