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Title: FBI Agent Accidentally Discharges Firearm
Source: Fox News
URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/06/0 ... ncing-at-denver-nightclub.html
Published: Jun 3, 2018
Author: Katherine Lam
Post Date: 2018-06-03 11:57:31 by misterwhite
Keywords: None
Views: 25346
Comments: 109

An off-duty FBI agent accidentally fired his gun, striking another patron in the leg, at a Denver nightclub while he was dancing early Saturday, police said.

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#1. To: All (#0)

Sookie, Sookie, Sookie, Sookie, Sookie, Sookie, BLAM.

Bet it was a Glock.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-06-03   12:03:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: misterwhite (#1) (Edited)

Lawsuit time.

It seems from the video that the gun fell out and went off when he picked it up to put it back in his holster. He was trying to a backflip for the crowd.

He's kinda old to do backflips so it wasn't perfect but it was pretty good for a big man. Usually big guys have problems wrapping their height and mass fast enough to do any kind of backflip.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-06-03   13:37:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Tooconservative (#2)

and went off when he picked it up to put it back in his holster.

Light trigger.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-06-03   16:16:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: misterwhite (#6)

Light trigger.

I get the feeling you're not shopping for a Glock. Just a hunch...

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-06-03   17:02:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Tooconservative (#7)

I get the feeling you're not shopping for a Glock. Just a hunch...

Not for concealed carry with one in the chamber, no safety, and a 5-pound trigger. You can shoot your eye out.

I'll settle for my S&W 642 with no safety but a 12-pound trigger (DA only).

Leave the Glock in the bedside table drawer where you have time to rack a round.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-06-03   17:48:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: misterwhite (#8)

Leave the Glock in the bedside table drawer where you have time to rack a round.

I tend toward this with my Glock but others here tell me the pistol is considered unloaded unless it has a shell in the chamber at all times.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-06-03   18:21:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Tooconservative (#10)

but others here tell me the pistol is considered unloaded unless it has a shell in the chamber at all times.

They're correct. It's a paperweight. But it's safe.

You'll have plenty of time to "load" it if it is for self-defense in the home, given that all you have to do is pull the slide and release it. Who knows, the sound of you doing that may scare the intruder away.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-06-03   18:42:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: misterwhite (#12)

They're correct. It's a paperweight. But it's safe.

A classic video to show why all these people keep telling us not to carry without a round in the chamber. This storeowner got himself and his son killed while trying to just get a round into the chamber.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-06-04   9:14:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Tooconservative (#18)

This storeowner got himself and his son killed while trying to just get a round into the chamber.

I read another story where the bad guy was dragging the woman along by one arm. She got her weapon out but was unable to operate the slide to put one in the chamber.

Paperweight.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-06-04   11:34:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: misterwhite (#22) (Edited)

At some point, I'll probably weaken and reconsider my habit of not keeping a bullet in the chamber in my bedroom gun.

Some years back, my niece dropped by with her very busy and very snoopy toddlers. They got into everything, every closet, every drawer, etc. Regular pint-sized terrorists.

After that, I worried about having a bullet in the chamber in that situation. Some kids aren't trained to never touch the guns. Anyway, hers weren't AFAIK.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-06-04   11:57:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Tooconservative (#23)

A hunting friend of mine and gun enthusiast wears his .45 on his hip with the weapon cocked and safety on. Who am I to question him about that?

Mine is a revolver which is four feet from me right now. I don't carry. It is in a holster which might make me one second slow on the draw. I don't worry about those things.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2018-06-04   12:16:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Fred Mertz (#24)

A hunting friend of mine and gun enthusiast wears his .45 on his hip with the weapon cocked and safety on. Who am I to question him about that?

I have a Glock. No safety. If it had a safety, I would definitely keep one in the chamber.

Mine is a revolver which is four feet from me right now. I don't carry. It is in a holster which might make me one second slow on the draw. I don't worry about those things.

There are days when I seriously consider getting rid of the Glock and buying a good wheel gun instead. It probably fits my skill level better and I'd feel safer overall. But America is in love with the semi-auto pistols with the large magazines and so I bought one. I should have thought it through better.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-06-04   12:34:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#33. To: Tooconservative (#26)

There are days when I seriously consider getting rid of the Glock and buying a good wheel gun instead.

You should listen to your inner-voice on one of those days.

If it is for self-defense,forget Magnums. When it comes to calibers,think "heavy,slow,and if possible,with a flat nose and swagged. Or mo betta,a swagged hollow-based wadcutter mounted backwards. Not accurate worth a damn beyond self-defense range,but oh,BOY do they work good at stopping an attacker.

Also think,"44 or 45 caliber" and velocities in the range of 700-800 fps. The idea is to shoot BIG,HEAVY bullets into your attacker and have them expend ALL of their energy inside his body. Milder loads like this also have the advantage of not kicking so hard,so it is easy to get back on target if you need a second shot.

Even 38 Specials with 140-160 grain hollowbase SWAGGED wadcutters will do the job at those velocities.

If it were me and I lived in the great frozen north,I would have two sets of self-defense loads. One set for warm weather as described above,and another set of factory +P jacketed hollowpoint loads for winter use,when your opponent is wearing layers of clothing or even a leather coat.

Unless of course you feel confident enough in your abilities and demeanor to go for head shots. If you can put a bullet through his eyeball,it really doesn't matter how big it is or how fast it's moving.

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