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Title: Cops Raid Little Boys’ Lemonade Stand, Shut it Down for Not Having a Permi
Source: Free Thought Project
URL Source: https://thefreethoughtproject.com/cops-denver-lemonade-stand-permit/
Published: May 30, 2018
Author: Matt Agorist
Post Date: 2018-05-30 21:17:33 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 17895
Comments: 102

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Common sense, among those who work inside the state, is a rare commodity. Agents of the state, like those who work in law enforcement, often become so blinded to reality by ‘just doing my job’ they throw logic and reason to the wayside, choosing authority and force instead. Nothing highlights this blind order following quite like police tormenting a two young boys for the crime of selling lemonade without a permit.

Jennifer Knowles, mother of three boys, wanted to instill a bit of entrepreneurial spirit in her sons over the Memorial Day weekend. So, Knowles and her husband decided they would have her four and six-year-old sons run a lemonade stand.

“We have never had a lemonade stand and the boys thought Memorial Day weekend is going to be great weather, so why not have a lemonade stand across the street in the park,” Knowles said.

Knowles told Denver 7 that she remembered having lemonade stands when she was a kid and she wanted her kids to do the same.

“I want to teach my kids about being an entrepreneur and having your own business. My 6-year-old got his little toy cash register out that he got when he was about two or three and he was learning how to interact with customers and about customer service,” Knowles said.

On top of teaching her children how to be entrepreneurs, Knowles said she wanted to teach them about giving to those less fortunate as well.

“We here are very fortunate and we forget that many kids in the world are not as fortunate as we are in Colorado or in the country, and so I wanted to teach them how to donate money to a charity,” Knowles said.

Knowles explained that her two sons picked a child in Indonesia to whom the proceeds from the lemonade stand would provide food and fresh water.

“They picked a little 5-year-old boy from Indonesia with siblings, two siblings, kind of like them,” she said.

The plan was set. The boys then set up their lemonade stand in the park across the street from their home and went to selling.

“They got a lot of people coming and praising the boys and telling them that they were doing a great job,” Knowles said. “That was so good for my boys to hear and for them to interact with people they’ve never met before in a business way.”

However, their good deed and entrepreneurial spirit would soon be squashed as police showed up just an hour and a half into their venture.

“The police officers came over and they said that because my boys and I did not have permits for a lemonade stand they shut us down and we had to stop immediately,” she said. “My boys were crushed. They were devastated. And I can’t believe that happened. I remember as a child I always had lemonade stands and never had to worry about being shut down by the police officers. I mean that’s unheard of.”

When her children saw the police coming toward them, they naturally got scared.

“My 6-year-old he saw the police officers coming over and he ran and he hid,” she said. “My 4-year-old came over and was looking at the police officer and heard what he was saying. He started to frown and then he started to cry. And it made me want to cry because they were so upset.”

Knowles explained that the police were nice but they were still shutting them down because someone had reported the children for selling unlicensed lemonade. In other words, they were just doing their jobs.

After being shut down for selling lemonade without a license, Knowles did some digging and found out that there is actually no law explicitly prohibiting lemonade stands. However, there were no laws explicitly permitting them either—meaning that these officers could’ve used their discretion and allowed the kids to continue selling, but they did not.

City officials, however, did say that they will shut down lemonade stands if they get a complaint.

“If our inspectors go to a lemonade stand, it means we’ve received a complaint, and generally complaints stem from high levels of activity or noise that disrupt neighbors,” Communications Program Manager Alexandra Foster told Denver7.

Sadly, Knowles has now felt the wrath of government regulation and issued a warning to other parents.

“I want parents know that they need to be aware that if their kids want to have a lemonade stand there could be repercussions like there with my kids,” Knowles said.

While Knowles’ children escaped without a fine, other children who’ve dared to sell the cool lemony goodness without a permit haven’t been so lucky.

As TFTP reported last year, a five-year-old girl was issued a citation after she set up a lemonade stand without first obtaining a permit.

In 2015, comedian Jerry Seinfeld’s son, Julian, and two friends set up a lemonade stand to raise money for a charity.

However, thanks to a see something say something neighbor, police were notified of the illegal lemonade venture. Hero officers then swooped in to shut down the stand, citing local village law violations.

After being shut down, Jerry and family posed for an epic pic, trolling both the police and the neighbor who would call the cops to shut down a charitable lemonade stand.

In Portland, Ore. an 11-year-old girl wanted to sell mistletoe from their farm at a holiday market to help her dad pay for her braces, which cost $5,000. But the Parks Bureau refused to let her set up without a permit, lease or concession agreement. She was told she could beg instead. (1 image)

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

the police and the neighbor who would call the cops to shut down a charitable lemonade stand.

Troll the elected officials that crafted the local ordinance or state law, regulating permits for food service profit... and troll that neighbor who complained.

The cops were simply enforcing the law after a tax paying citizen complained and demanded her local police SERVE THEM.

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-05-30   21:56:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: GrandIsland (#1)

The cops were simply enforcing the law after a tax paying citizen complained and demanded her local police SERVE THEM.

Should that be done for every last law, ordinance & regulation on every local, state and federal book?

Given the huge amount of bureaucracy Americans are faced with, that's simply not realistic. If a cop gets it in his head to pull over and cite everyone he sees not using a turn signal on a highway when changing lanes, is it still not the cops fault for "enforcing the law that's on the books"?

Generally speaking, the separation of powers doctrine provides that the group that passes the laws can't be the same group that enforces them, so the executive branch, in this case the police, has the option to elect NOT to enforce laws in particular cases. But these cops chose otherwise.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-05-31   0:29:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Pinguinite, GrandIsland, TooConservative, misterwhite (#9)

Should that [strict LE) be done for every last law, ordinance & regulation on every local, state and federal book?

Given the huge amount of bureaucracy Americans are faced with, that's simply not realistic. If a cop gets it in his head to pull over and cite everyone he sees not using a turn signal on a highway when changing lanes, is it still not the cops fault for "enforcing the law that's on the books"?

Exactly.

This is a matter of propriety AND priority; NOT for weaponizing LE for petty BS.

Now IF the tykes were hawking their wares on a weekly basis, then perhaps some LE action is warranted.

Liberator  posted on  2018-05-31   13:38:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Liberator (#50)

NOT for weaponizing LE for petty BS.

These kids caused a legit lemonade seller to lose almost $3,000. That's petty BS?

He's probably got kids to feed. What about him and his family?

misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-31   14:30:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: misterwhite (#58)

These kids caused a legit lemonade seller to lose almost $3,000. That's petty BS?

Not only that but the arts venue may have had a contractual profitsharing agreement with the authorized beverage seller and been entitled to a share of his profits. They may have been using beverage profits to subsidize their show and advertising and to try to monetize the looky-loos who were just going to stroll through but not buy anything.

So it probably wasn't just the authorized beverage vendor who had an incentive to rat them out to the citrus police.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-31   14:34:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Tooconservative (#59)

So it probably wasn't just the authorized beverage vendor who had an incentive to rat them out to the citrus police.

Yes! Hell yes! What does David Hogg have to say?

misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-31   14:53:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: misterwhite (#63)

Camera Hogg does make himself an easy target with his dramatic gestures and facial contortions. He really could be posing for photos as a Hitler Youth leader. He's perfect for the part.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-31   15:10:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Tooconservative (#64)

He really could be posing for photos as a Hitler Youth leader. He's perfect for the part.

I agree. A good, little Nazi.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-31   15:12:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: misterwhite (#65)

Camera Hogg does look a bit like Goebbels.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-31   15:17:00 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Tooconservative, misterwhite (#66) (Edited)

As to pose, I think the Goebbels' pose = Hogg wins.

For demeanor, Heydrich. Or THIS man:

Liberator  posted on  2018-05-31   15:45:22 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Liberator (#70)

Major Hochstetter from Hogan's Heroes?

Damn, like we didn't look like a bunch of old geezes already.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-31   15:52:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Tooconservative (#75)

Major Hochstetter from Hogan's Heroes?

Of course!

Damn, like we didn't look like a bunch of old geezes already.

Time is cruel, ain't it?

Liberator  posted on  2018-05-31   16:19:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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