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Title: Cops Raid Little Boys’ Lemonade Stand, Shut it Down for Not Having a Permi
Source: Free Thought Project
URL Source: https://thefreethoughtproject.com/cops-denver-lemonade-stand-permit/
Published: May 30, 2018
Author: Matt Agorist
Post Date: 2018-05-30 21:17:33 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 16451
Comments: 102

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Common sense, among those who work inside the state, is a rare commodity. Agents of the state, like those who work in law enforcement, often become so blinded to reality by ‘just doing my job’ they throw logic and reason to the wayside, choosing authority and force instead. Nothing highlights this blind order following quite like police tormenting a two young boys for the crime of selling lemonade without a permit.

Jennifer Knowles, mother of three boys, wanted to instill a bit of entrepreneurial spirit in her sons over the Memorial Day weekend. So, Knowles and her husband decided they would have her four and six-year-old sons run a lemonade stand.

“We have never had a lemonade stand and the boys thought Memorial Day weekend is going to be great weather, so why not have a lemonade stand across the street in the park,” Knowles said.

Knowles told Denver 7 that she remembered having lemonade stands when she was a kid and she wanted her kids to do the same.

“I want to teach my kids about being an entrepreneur and having your own business. My 6-year-old got his little toy cash register out that he got when he was about two or three and he was learning how to interact with customers and about customer service,” Knowles said.

On top of teaching her children how to be entrepreneurs, Knowles said she wanted to teach them about giving to those less fortunate as well.

“We here are very fortunate and we forget that many kids in the world are not as fortunate as we are in Colorado or in the country, and so I wanted to teach them how to donate money to a charity,” Knowles said.

Knowles explained that her two sons picked a child in Indonesia to whom the proceeds from the lemonade stand would provide food and fresh water.

“They picked a little 5-year-old boy from Indonesia with siblings, two siblings, kind of like them,” she said.

The plan was set. The boys then set up their lemonade stand in the park across the street from their home and went to selling.

“They got a lot of people coming and praising the boys and telling them that they were doing a great job,” Knowles said. “That was so good for my boys to hear and for them to interact with people they’ve never met before in a business way.”

However, their good deed and entrepreneurial spirit would soon be squashed as police showed up just an hour and a half into their venture.

“The police officers came over and they said that because my boys and I did not have permits for a lemonade stand they shut us down and we had to stop immediately,” she said. “My boys were crushed. They were devastated. And I can’t believe that happened. I remember as a child I always had lemonade stands and never had to worry about being shut down by the police officers. I mean that’s unheard of.”

When her children saw the police coming toward them, they naturally got scared.

“My 6-year-old he saw the police officers coming over and he ran and he hid,” she said. “My 4-year-old came over and was looking at the police officer and heard what he was saying. He started to frown and then he started to cry. And it made me want to cry because they were so upset.”

Knowles explained that the police were nice but they were still shutting them down because someone had reported the children for selling unlicensed lemonade. In other words, they were just doing their jobs.

After being shut down for selling lemonade without a license, Knowles did some digging and found out that there is actually no law explicitly prohibiting lemonade stands. However, there were no laws explicitly permitting them either—meaning that these officers could’ve used their discretion and allowed the kids to continue selling, but they did not.

City officials, however, did say that they will shut down lemonade stands if they get a complaint.

“If our inspectors go to a lemonade stand, it means we’ve received a complaint, and generally complaints stem from high levels of activity or noise that disrupt neighbors,” Communications Program Manager Alexandra Foster told Denver7.

Sadly, Knowles has now felt the wrath of government regulation and issued a warning to other parents.

“I want parents know that they need to be aware that if their kids want to have a lemonade stand there could be repercussions like there with my kids,” Knowles said.

While Knowles’ children escaped without a fine, other children who’ve dared to sell the cool lemony goodness without a permit haven’t been so lucky.

As TFTP reported last year, a five-year-old girl was issued a citation after she set up a lemonade stand without first obtaining a permit.

In 2015, comedian Jerry Seinfeld’s son, Julian, and two friends set up a lemonade stand to raise money for a charity.

However, thanks to a see something say something neighbor, police were notified of the illegal lemonade venture. Hero officers then swooped in to shut down the stand, citing local village law violations.

After being shut down, Jerry and family posed for an epic pic, trolling both the police and the neighbor who would call the cops to shut down a charitable lemonade stand.

In Portland, Ore. an 11-year-old girl wanted to sell mistletoe from their farm at a holiday market to help her dad pay for her braces, which cost $5,000. But the Parks Bureau refused to let her set up without a permit, lease or concession agreement. She was told she could beg instead. (1 image)

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#8. To: Deckard (#0)

I guess the moral of the story for the kids is that when they grow up, they can be cops instead of productive business people.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-05-31   0:24:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Pinguinite (#8)

I guess the moral of the story for the kids is that when they grow up, they can be cops instead of productive business people.

We nesd a sense of ethics and morals beyond production capacity & capability. despite all the directives ny top management/

buckeroo  posted on  2018-05-31   0:45:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: buckeroo (#10)

We nesd a sense of ethics and morals beyond production capacity & capability. despite all the directives ny top management/

You sound stupidest when you try to sound like an intellectual. It just doesn't work for you.

That sentence doesn't even make sense.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-31   7:02:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Tooconservative (#14)

I think it is ridiculous that your nanny state isn't in every mother's kitchen. There have been no inspections of kitchens in people's homes. I'm outtraged what if some mother serves her kids some bad food with germs on it. In this day and age there is no excuse to cook at home in an unregulated kitchen. You could hurt your very own children.

That can of Campbell's soup in an unsanitized pan. There is simply no excuse to cook at home. Everyone should be forced to eat out every meal. Cooking for yourself is so dangerous and twentieth century.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-05-31   7:35:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A K A Stone (#15) (Edited)

I'm outtraged what if some mother serves her kids some bad food with germs on it. In this day and age there is no excuse to cook at home in an unregulated kitchen. You could hurt your very own children.

The diffrence is in your analogy, mom isn’t selling food products to her kids for profit.

This is no different than a mom allowing her two 14 year olds to run a black jack table on the corner... 5 dollar minimum bets. Same thing, the kids are violating a constitutionally tester law or ordinance. Selling lemonade for MONEY, on a public sidewalk, to the passing public, is no different than selling Big Mac’s at McDonald’s... for the exception that McDonalds pays dearly with permits and health inspections to sell food, the kids aren’t.

There was an actual complaint... a law was being violated. How can The responding department not act?

Personally for me, if there wasn’t a complaint and I saw the lemonade stand on patrol... I’d stop and buy a drink. If the neighbor complained 30 minutes later and I was dispatched to the call... I’d arrive and shut it down. Drive away muttering how much a douchebag the neighbor is... and then realize the lemonade family might be bigger douchebags to live next to and that might be why the complaint was lodged.

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-05-31   8:02:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#24. To: GrandIsland, A K A Stone (#23)

Personally for me, if there wasn’t a complaint and I saw the lemonade stand on patrol... I’d stop and buy a drink. If the neighbor complained 30 minutes later and I was dispatched to the call... I’d arrive and shut it down. Drive away muttering how much a douchebag the neighbor is... and then realize the lemonade family might be bigger douchebags to live next to and that might be why the complaint was lodged.

I think people who haven't worked in law enforcement don't readily grasp these issues of practical law enforcement.

To be fair, we all have to live under the same laws and their enforcement.

If people want kiddie lemonade stands, they need to elect representatives who will write specific exceptions to beverage vending requirements and exempt from regulation and inspection all beverage businesses run by children under a certain age.

But no one ever does that. And no one will. Instead, they'll whine and complain about these endless annual stories about some jackboot cop abusing some poor tyke trying to sell a glass of (possibly deadly) lemonade mix to the public.

But let 10-20 people get sick from that lemonade, and they'll be howling at the police for allowing these scofflaws to break our beverage vending laws and health regulations.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-31 08:48:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: GrandIsland (#23)

This is no different than a mom allowing her two 14 year olds to run a black jack table on the corner... 5 dollar minimum bets. Same thing, the kids are violating a constitutionally tester law or ordinance.

It's obvious that you are too young to remember when this was a free country and allowing kids to make money on their own was encouraged.

Deckard  posted on  2018-05-31 09:08:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: GrandIsland (#23)

Drive away muttering how much a douchebag the neighbor is... and then realize the lemonade family might be bigger douchebags to live next to and that might be why the complaint was lodged.

Yeah - in GrandIsland Bizarro Wold, anyone not a cop is a "douchebag". Man you are such an asshole!

No wonder you became a cop - police departments are loaded with assholes like you.

Deckard  posted on  2018-05-31 09:12:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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