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Title: TrumpÂ’s not a liar. HeÂ’s a madman.
Source: WAPO
URL Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin ... ry.html?utm_term=.4d19c67ddbb1
Published: May 30, 2018
Author: Dana Milbank
Post Date: 2018-05-30 07:47:55 by Jameson
Keywords: out, of, control
Views: 6232
Comments: 62

Even by President Trump’s standards, this Memorial Day weekend was memorable for the sheer volume of balderdash, bunk, poppycock and patent nonsense flowing from the White House.

Balderdash: Trump went after the “failing and corrupt” New York Times for citing a senior White House official “who doesn’t exist” and admonished the newspaper to “use real people, not phony sources.” It turned out the senior official in question had spoken at a White House briefing arranged by Trump’s aides and attended by dozens of reporters.

Bunk: Trump attacked “the 13 Angry Democrats” working for Robert S. Mueller III, apparently referring to prior party registration. But Mueller himself is a Republican, appointed by a Republican who was himself appointed by Trump.

Poppycock: He called for “pressure on the Democrats to end the horrible law that separates children from there [sic] parents once they cross the Border into the U.S.” There is no such law, and Attorney General Jeff Sessions has acknowledged that family separation “inevitably” results from Trump’s “zero- tolerance” enforcement policy.

Patent nonsense: “Who’s going to give back the young and beautiful lives (and others) that have been devastated and destroyed by the phony Russia Collusion Witch Hunt?” Trump asked. I can picture the GoFundMe campaign: “Paul Manafort, a young and beautiful 69-year-old, had a promising career ahead of him selling access to the White House before he was cruelly indicted . . . ”

Early in this weekend’s monsoon of malarkey, New York Times White House reporter Maggie Haberman tweeted that Trump told “demonstrable falsehoods” — and she was roundly ridiculed on Twitter for failing to say Trump was lying. She defended herself by saying Trump’s pronouncements “can be hard to label” because “he often thinks whatever he says is what’s real.”

Haberman is right, but there’s another reason not to label Trump’s untruths “lies”: Calling him a liar lets him off easy. A liar, by definition, knows he’s not telling the truth. Trump’s behavior is worse: With each day it becomes more obvious he can’t distinguish between fact and fantasy. It’s an illness, and it’s spreading.

I’ve been writing for two years about his seeming inability to separate truth from falsehood: from his claim that he opposed the Iraq War to his belief that his rainy inauguration was “really sunny.” The man who ghostwrote Trump’s “Art of the Deal” marveled at Trump’s “ability to convince himself that whatever he is saying at any given moment is true.”

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#1. To: Jameson (#0)

Title: TrumpÂ’s not a liar. HeÂ’s a madman.

I'm glad you finally admitted that Trump is not a liar.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-30   8:06:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tooconservative (#1)

I'm glad you finally admitted that Trump is not a liar.

I admit no such thing.

I believe the intent of this piece, is to point out that JO45 is indeed a liar, AND a mental defective. (in addition to being a degenerate)

Jameson  posted on  2018-05-30   8:11:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jameson (#2)

So you don't believe the very first sentence of your own article?

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-30   8:14:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Tooconservative (#3)

So you don't believe the very first sentence of your own article?

What I believe the author is saying is that to simply point out that JO45 is a lying sack of shit, is a monumental understatement.

This ass-bite lies at every opportunity:
President Trump lied more than 3,000 times in 466 days
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/01/politics/donald-trump-3000/index.html

and

He believes his lies, which makes him a mental defective who should probably be institutionalized.

Jameson  posted on  2018-05-30   9:01:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Jameson (#6)

What I believe the author is saying is that to simply point out that JO45 is a lying sack of shit, is a monumental understatement.

This ass-bite lies at every opportunity: President Trump lied more than 3,000 times in 466 days https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/01/politics/donald-trump-3000/index.html

and

He believes his lies, which makes him a mental defective who should probably be institutionalized.

It's been a long time since you've been happy about politics, hasn't it?

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-30   9:13:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Vicomte13 (#7)

It's been a long time since you've been happy about politics, hasn't it?

About 568 days........

Jameson  posted on  2018-05-30   9:24:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Jameson (#8)

It's been a long time since you've been happy about politics, hasn't it?

About 568 days........

So, you were an Obama man?

(for the record, I did not find Obama terrible. I disliked his health care plan because it was unworkable. I did not find W terrible. I disliked his war strategy because I did not believe it could work. I thought Clinton was pretty good, actually. I thought H.W. Bush was a scumbag for lying to me to get my vote and then raising taxes. I liked Reagan, though I thought his tax policies were foolish. I thought Carter was weak. I was too young to have any sort of real political opinion about Ford, Nixon or LBJ. I stood up in the my crib for the first time the day JFK was shot, so I have no opinion on him or his next three successors based on direct experience, only on history, and history is never really true.)

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-30   9:42:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Vicomte13 (#9)

I disliked his health care plan because it was unworkable.

No argument about being unworkable as written. I expected additional legislation that would have fixed the biggest problems.

The ACA did remove lifetime maximums, pre-existing conditions, and allowed kids to stay on their parents' plan - which were all very good things.

All things considered, I am strongly in favor of universal healthcare for all, but that's a discussion for another day.

So, you were an Obama man?

At first by default, because after 8 years of "w" I was unwilling to vote for McCain, and in 2012 I found Romney to be too much of an elitist. I also considered what I expected the make-up of the congress to be... I felt divided government under the circumstances to be advisable.

Jameson  posted on  2018-05-30   9:57:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Jameson (#12)

I am strongly in favor of universal healthcare for all, but that's a discussion for another day.

I think it is a discussion for today.

I am in favor of universal healthcare, but along very specific lines, as follows:

(1) It starts with doctors. Medical school education is already merit based. Most of it should be free, paid for by the government - just exactly like ROTC - with a public service requirement of 8 years after licensing, minimum, just exactly like ROTC and the military. People who have the academic merit should be able to go the medical school and through residency without going into debt, and they should pay for that free education by working in the public health services and public hospitals as public doctors on the public payroll for about 10 years.

(2) Legal reform should remove jury trials from medical malpractice cases, and substitute panels of experts, so that there are professional tribunals trying medical malpractice cases, to improve medicine, compensate victims, and generally cut the cost of malpractice insurance by 67%. A pattern that you will see throughout is that I do not believe that private insurers should be making much profit off of human suffering. I prefer public not- for-profit hospitals, doctors, and public not-for-profit insurance (eg: medicare) over private for-profit insurance. I do not believe that private insurance provides any improvement to the quality of medical care, and is nothing but a pure drain of financial resources FROM medicine TO capitalists and investors - and I believe that those profits are detrimental to health care (because they belong in medicine), and that the system should be designed to squeeze private insurance - not doctors - out of business.

(3) All Americans should be on Medicare, cradle to grave, and there should be no Medicaid at all. There should not a two tier system of health care for workers and crappy barely-cared-for-at-all care for the poor. Point 1 creates (and the malpractice bit of point 2) provides a vast cadre of public doctors.

In other words, I think that medicine, like schooling, is a necessary public good and a universal public right, irrespective of the ability to pay. I do not believe that private for-profit insurance has any role to play, and that public not-for-profit insurance should occupy the field and drive all of the private insurers out of business because they can't compete with it, other than in the "gap". Medigap insurance covers the better-off for the insurance gap between Medicare and Medicaid.

(4) Because medicine is a licensed profession, I think that the acceptance of Medicare should be a requirement of holding a license, and that doctors who refuse to receive the public and be paid public insurance should not be allowed to practice medicine at all.

Of course, by removing medical school debt, malpractice costs, and providing the public structure for the first ten years of practice, young doctors will be in much better financial shape than they are now when they go into private practice, if they decide to.

Universal medicare, public medical education, tort reform are the keys to a good system. Obamacare did none of those things. Instead, it focused on preserving a big fat profit margin for private insurers in exchange for universal coverage. But that cannot work, economically. It is a waste of public money. Private insurers provide no health care beyond public insurance (Medicare): they simply provide profit to their owners. Obamacare amounted to a direct distribution of profit from the treasury to the private insurance companies.

Take the profit out of medical insurance, nationalize it into Medicare, take the profit out of student lending to doctors and give them their medical education for free in exchange for a decade of public medical service. Take the profit, and bloated salaries, out of "not-for-profit" hospitals and make them public hospitals, staffed by public doctors (per the system described above). And insure everybody, cradle to grave, with Medicare.

Cut military spending and raise taxes to pay for it.

In other words, adopt the French health care system, because it is the best in the world, and it works better than all of the others, including ours. It's expensive, relative to the others, but it delivers a better quality of care than ANY other - the same as ours in terms of outcome - and it costs 60% less.

Medical care pre-natal to grave, and public education, are universal human rights of Americans - set the taxes at whatever they need to be set at to accomplish that.

We can talk about pensions another time.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-30   10:16:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Vicomte13 (#14)

There should not a two tier system of health care for workers and crappy barely-cared-for-at-all care for the poor.

That's the way it was until the passage of EMTALA in 1986. Coincidentally, that's when healthcare costs started to rise.

At least the poor are covered by our tax dollars. Prior to 1986 they had to rely on their own savings, family, friends, community and church for help. And back then nobody was too keen on helping some lazy-assed, drug using, high school dropout, never-worked-a -day-in-their-lives, just-out-of-prison, irresponsible single person with 8 kids.

Meaning, people back then had their shit together and participated in society, never knowing when they might need that society to help them out during hard times.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-30   11:21:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: misterwhite (#28)

Meaning, people back then had their shit together and participated in society, never knowing when they might need that society to help them out during hard times.

Back then, they had twice the crime rate we have. Things were not good.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-30   13:07:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Vicomte13 (#40)

Back then, they had twice the crime rate we have.

And you credit Medicaid for the reduction? Based on what? Feelings?

misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-30   13:59:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: misterwhite (#44)

And you credit Medicaid for the reduction? Based on what? Feelings?

You credited something else as being "better" that wasn't really better at all, and you did it based on your feelings. I pointed out a flaw.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-30   14:08:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Vicomte13 (#46)

You credited something else as being "better"

No I didn't. I made no judgement. I simply stated the way it was.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-30   14:26:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: misterwhite (#48)

I simply stated the way it was.

And so did I. Double the crime back then. The way it was didn't work so well.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-30   14:32:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Vicomte13 (#49)

Double the crime back then. The way it was didn't work so well.

What does one have to do with the other?

misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-30   15:28:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: misterwhite (#51)

Me - Double the crime back then. The way it was didn't work so well.

You - What does one have to do with the other?

Your original quote - "Prior to 1986 they had to rely on their own savings, family, friends, community and church for help. And back then nobody was too keen on helping some lazy-assed, drug using, high school dropout, never- worked-a -day-in-their-lives, just-out-of-prison, irresponsible single person with 8 kids.

Meaning, people back then had their shit together and participated in society, never knowing when they might need that society to help them out during hard times."

"Back then" was 1985. I remember 1985 - Detroit and DC and Newark and South Central, and so on and so on.

People did not have their shit together, at all, in 1985. The country was overrun with crime, poverty was terrible.

Things are better today, in every vector I can think of.

I am generally disputing the thrust of your assertion: that things were better before stronger welfare was enacted, because (poor) people had to rely on other (poor) people, and so they had their shit together more.

No, they didn't. Welfare expansion has greatly improved America from the rat rodeo it was back then. It was much easier to get yourself casually murdered back then, drugs were rampant and out of control BECAUSE more people were depressed and living on the edge of nothing, and that wrecks them and they self-medicate.

Fact is, stronger welfare improved everything: lower crime, less death, longer lives.

I deny the narrative that it was better, in ANY way whatever, before we spent more on welfare. It was worse in every measurable way. Wealth redistribution through taxation and welfare, in all vectors, including universal public education, college grants, expanded food stamps, extended unemployment benefits - every single one of those programs that conservatives all hate - has improved America. Lives are longer, the chances of getting murdered or raped are far, far lower, the cities are not festering shitholes on the verge of rioting.

Welfare works. Public education works. Wealth redistribution works. Conservatives have always been wrong about this.

Conservatives are RIGHT about deregulation of business. They are RIGHT about the need for forward engagement in the world. They are RIGHT about the need to control the borders. They are RIGHT about the need to have a flatter tax code.

But when it comes to social services, they don't get it, and probably never will.

You seem to remember 1985 as a time when people had their shit together, and that things got WORSE after that BECAUSE OF greater welfare. That's not what I remember. At all.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-30   15:51:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Vicomte13 (#53) (Edited)

People did not have their shit together, at all, in 1985.

Not "in 1985". In the years prior to 1986. People were much less reliant on the government. I said nothing about crime or poverty.

"Things are better today, in every vector I can think of."

Breakdown of the family? Out-of- wedlock births? People on welfare/food stamps/Social Security Disability/WIC/federal housing? Illegal immigration?

misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-30   16:06:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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