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Title: TrumpÂ’s not a liar. HeÂ’s a madman.
Source: WAPO
URL Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin ... ry.html?utm_term=.4d19c67ddbb1
Published: May 30, 2018
Author: Dana Milbank
Post Date: 2018-05-30 07:47:55 by Jameson
Keywords: out, of, control
Views: 8193
Comments: 62

Even by President Trump’s standards, this Memorial Day weekend was memorable for the sheer volume of balderdash, bunk, poppycock and patent nonsense flowing from the White House.

Balderdash: Trump went after the “failing and corrupt” New York Times for citing a senior White House official “who doesn’t exist” and admonished the newspaper to “use real people, not phony sources.” It turned out the senior official in question had spoken at a White House briefing arranged by Trump’s aides and attended by dozens of reporters.

Bunk: Trump attacked “the 13 Angry Democrats” working for Robert S. Mueller III, apparently referring to prior party registration. But Mueller himself is a Republican, appointed by a Republican who was himself appointed by Trump.

Poppycock: He called for “pressure on the Democrats to end the horrible law that separates children from there [sic] parents once they cross the Border into the U.S.” There is no such law, and Attorney General Jeff Sessions has acknowledged that family separation “inevitably” results from Trump’s “zero- tolerance” enforcement policy.

Patent nonsense: “Who’s going to give back the young and beautiful lives (and others) that have been devastated and destroyed by the phony Russia Collusion Witch Hunt?” Trump asked. I can picture the GoFundMe campaign: “Paul Manafort, a young and beautiful 69-year-old, had a promising career ahead of him selling access to the White House before he was cruelly indicted . . . ”

Early in this weekend’s monsoon of malarkey, New York Times White House reporter Maggie Haberman tweeted that Trump told “demonstrable falsehoods” — and she was roundly ridiculed on Twitter for failing to say Trump was lying. She defended herself by saying Trump’s pronouncements “can be hard to label” because “he often thinks whatever he says is what’s real.”

Haberman is right, but there’s another reason not to label Trump’s untruths “lies”: Calling him a liar lets him off easy. A liar, by definition, knows he’s not telling the truth. Trump’s behavior is worse: With each day it becomes more obvious he can’t distinguish between fact and fantasy. It’s an illness, and it’s spreading.

I’ve been writing for two years about his seeming inability to separate truth from falsehood: from his claim that he opposed the Iraq War to his belief that his rainy inauguration was “really sunny.” The man who ghostwrote Trump’s “Art of the Deal” marveled at Trump’s “ability to convince himself that whatever he is saying at any given moment is true.”

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#1. To: Jameson (#0)

Title: TrumpÂ’s not a liar. HeÂ’s a madman.

I'm glad you finally admitted that Trump is not a liar.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-30   8:06:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tooconservative (#1)

I'm glad you finally admitted that Trump is not a liar.

I admit no such thing.

I believe the intent of this piece, is to point out that JO45 is indeed a liar, AND a mental defective. (in addition to being a degenerate)

Jameson  posted on  2018-05-30   8:11:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jameson (#2)

So you don't believe the very first sentence of your own article?

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-30   8:14:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Tooconservative (#3)

So you don't believe the very first sentence of your own article?

What I believe the author is saying is that to simply point out that JO45 is a lying sack of shit, is a monumental understatement.

This ass-bite lies at every opportunity:
President Trump lied more than 3,000 times in 466 days
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/01/politics/donald-trump-3000/index.html

and

He believes his lies, which makes him a mental defective who should probably be institutionalized.

Jameson  posted on  2018-05-30   9:01:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Jameson (#6)

What I believe the author is saying is that to simply point out that JO45 is a lying sack of shit, is a monumental understatement.

This ass-bite lies at every opportunity: President Trump lied more than 3,000 times in 466 days https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/01/politics/donald-trump-3000/index.html

and

He believes his lies, which makes him a mental defective who should probably be institutionalized.

It's been a long time since you've been happy about politics, hasn't it?

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-30   9:13:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Vicomte13 (#7)

It's been a long time since you've been happy about politics, hasn't it?

About 568 days........

Jameson  posted on  2018-05-30   9:24:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Jameson (#8)

It's been a long time since you've been happy about politics, hasn't it?

About 568 days........

So, you were an Obama man?

(for the record, I did not find Obama terrible. I disliked his health care plan because it was unworkable. I did not find W terrible. I disliked his war strategy because I did not believe it could work. I thought Clinton was pretty good, actually. I thought H.W. Bush was a scumbag for lying to me to get my vote and then raising taxes. I liked Reagan, though I thought his tax policies were foolish. I thought Carter was weak. I was too young to have any sort of real political opinion about Ford, Nixon or LBJ. I stood up in the my crib for the first time the day JFK was shot, so I have no opinion on him or his next three successors based on direct experience, only on history, and history is never really true.)

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-30   9:42:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Vicomte13 (#9)

I disliked his health care plan because it was unworkable.

No argument about being unworkable as written. I expected additional legislation that would have fixed the biggest problems.

The ACA did remove lifetime maximums, pre-existing conditions, and allowed kids to stay on their parents' plan - which were all very good things.

All things considered, I am strongly in favor of universal healthcare for all, but that's a discussion for another day.

So, you were an Obama man?

At first by default, because after 8 years of "w" I was unwilling to vote for McCain, and in 2012 I found Romney to be too much of an elitist. I also considered what I expected the make-up of the congress to be... I felt divided government under the circumstances to be advisable.

Jameson  posted on  2018-05-30   9:57:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Jameson (#12)

The ACA did remove lifetime maximums, pre-existing conditions, and allowed kids to stay on their parents' plan

Which drove up the cost of health insurance for everyone.

It also mandated coverage, forced people into plans they didn't want, covered things they didn't need, and caused insurance companies to withdraw from markets.

Unworkable is an understatement, given that Obama was determined to make it work at any price.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-30   10:30:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: misterwhite (#17)

Which drove up the cost of health insurance for everyone.

Medicine for profit has been a terrible failure.

It is the profit taken by the providers, insurers, brokers, and bureaucrats that has driven up the cost of health care.

The ACA is simply a convenient scapegoat for price gouging.

Jameson  posted on  2018-05-30   10:42:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#24. To: Jameson (#19)

Medicine for profit has been a terrible failure.

Nope. Regulating health insurance has been a terrible failure.

What would happen to car insurance rates if the auto insurance companies were forced to accept pre-existing conditions? Or were forced to also cover teenage drivers under their parents' policy? Or were forced to cover tires, oil changes, and car washes?

Let doctors, hospitals, and insurance companies compete in a free market. That will drive down costs.

But ... but … the poor. Fuck' em. Get a job that offers health insurance. Which means they have to complete high school, not have babies, and stay off drugs.

If they refuse to do what the rest of us have to do, then that's THEIR choice.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-30 10:59:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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