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Title: Poland would like a permanent U.S. military base
Source: HotAir
URL Source: https://hotair.com/archives/2018/05 ... e-permanent-u-s-military-base/
Published: May 28, 2018
Author: Jazz Shaw
Post Date: 2018-05-28 19:02:28 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 9121
Comments: 100

Word has leaked out that Poland has delivered a proposal requesting a permanent American military base in their country and they’re willing to put up a couple of billion dollars to help make it happen. What should have been a fairly normal diplomatic request, however, has turned into a complicated mess before it could even be officially announced. Questions were immediately raised as to not only how or if this should happen, but even who came up with the proposal in the first place. (Politico)
Poland wants a permanent U.S. military presence — and is willing to pony up as much as $2 billion to get it, according to a defense ministry proposal obtained by Polish news portal Onet.

The Polish offer reflects a long-standing desire in Warsaw to build closer security relations with the U.S. and put American boots on the ground. The push dates back to Poland’s entry into NATO in 1999, but has taken on added urgency in the wake of Russia’s annexation of Ukraine’s Crimea region four years ago and aggressive posture toward the alliance.

Coming just over a month before NATO leaders gather in Brussels for a summit, the Polish initiative is bound to anger Russia, and will be looked at with skepticism by European allies that want to improve relations with Moscow, such as Italy and at times Germany.

The first, and strangest thing about this proposal is that it was already sent to Washington, but it came directly from the Polish Defense Ministry. That may not sound all that unusual since their Defense Department would obviously be involved in such planning, but Defense never even told their Foreign Ministry about it, nor did they consult with President Andrzej Duda. Much the same as with the United States government, Duda is Poland’s Commander in Chief. You’d think someone would mention it to him before they committed to spending $2B constructing a foreign military base on their own soil.

Duda has had a fairly good relationship with President Trump thus far and, as a NATO ally, has taken a bit more of an adversarial approach toward Russia. But that complicates the picture even further. Poland is justifiably worried about the situation with Putin ever since the hostilities in Ukraine began. Poland shares a border with Ukraine and only has Belarus as a buffer between themselves and the Russian border. But given that things are a bit “tense” between us and the Russians at the moment, it makes entering into such an agreement even more complicated.

And, of course, the Russians jumped on the story almost immediately expressing their disapproval. (Reuters)
The Kremlin said on Monday that gradual NATO military expansion towards its borders did not improve security or stability in Europe as it commented on media reports Poland is seeking to secure a permanent U.S. military presence on its territory.

“When we see the gradual expansion of NATO military structures towards our borders…, this of course in no way creates security and stability on the continent,” Dmitry Peskov told reporters on a conference call on Monday.

Do we really even need another base over there right now? We’re supposedly focusing on closing and consolidating bases in that region to tighten up the Defense budget. Even with the Poles kicking in a couple of billion, this is still going to cost us some cash and we already have a rotating military presence in their country anyway. We’ve supposedly been on track to close 15 more bases in Europe, including some in Germany, since 2015. Assuming we’re still moving forward with that plan, how do we justify a new base in Poland unless we want to officially ramp up the cold war yet again?

We have a solid ally in Poland and cooperation with them probably isn’t a bad idea. But a permanent military base? The benefit to Poland on any number angles is obvious, but I’m not sure what it really does for us. Perhaps we should hold off until Duda has had a chance to make his official position known and set up a call with Trump to discuss this.


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The Poles are begging Trump to Make Poland Great Again.

I can't recall any of our allies offering to pay billions to build a new base for us to flock to. Maybe the Qataris did for our navy base but I don't recall that they paid either.

I think the Poles are hoping to woo us out of Germany where Merkel has gotten more unfriendly and has an embarrassing military. Poland's military is scrappy with good equipment for the most part. Poland would like to be our new military hub in Europe instead of Germany.

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#5. To: A Pole (#0)

Poland would be a good place to have a base: it would place US forces well forward and provide assurance that Poland will remain free of anybody's domination.

Let's put a base there.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-29   6:42:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Vicomte13 (#5)

Let's put a base there.

I'd prefer that to our bad ally, Germany. And it is expensive to have bases there. We're closing a few of them already.

We can keep our big German base with the advanced hospital facilities, close the rest, and move into Poland/Hungary/Czechoslovakia. Cheaper to base troops there anyway, especially if the Poles help foot the initial cost (which they'll eventually make back due to our basing of troops and equipment there over, say, a ten year period).

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-29   9:33:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Tooconservative (#8)

Even better: get out of Europe and cut the size of the US military sufficient to balance the budget.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-29   9:54:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Vicomte13 (#9) (Edited)

Even better: get out of Europe and cut the size of the US military sufficient to balance the budget.

I'm not sure that even I want to get entirely out of Europe.

They may need further American supervision of their petty tribal squabbles.

I'm still trying to recall any other country that offered us such a deal to build a base in their country. Poland's offer is the only one I can think of. They're willing to cough up $2B. That ain't chicken feed.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-29   10:04:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Tooconservative (#10)

They may need further American supervision of their petty tribal squabbles.

What are we,their daddies?

Let them settle their own shit,and just deal with the survivors if they don't want to listen to verbal reasoning and/or the UN.

In some cases,like any case involving Muslims,sell or even give infantry weapons to anyone killing them. Including both sides of any Muslim vs Muslim conflict.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-05-29   10:27:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: sneakypete (#18)

In some cases,like any case involving Muslims,sell or even give infantry weapons to anyone killing them.

All of those boat people coming from Africa, and those people coming out of Syria. Put them in camps, train them as a military, fully arm them, and send them back with a supply line to overthrow the oppressive regimes they fled and take over.

Then they go home and stay there.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-29   10:29:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Vicomte13, sneakypete (#19)

All of those boat people coming from Africa, and those people coming out of Syria. Put them in camps, train them as a military, fully arm them, and send them back with a supply line to overthrow the oppressive regimes they fled and take over.

Then they go home and stay there.

I thought we tried that. Didn't they call it the Bay of Pigs?     : )

We've tried it elsewhere too, along with setting up our own fake governments-in-exile and all the rest. That is how we got into Iraq to begin with. Maybe this is the kind of thing we should try to avoid. All our meddling in troublespots like the Mideast seem to bring rather bad results. Reagan was smart enough to keep out of it, at least he was after the Beirut airport bombing.

If we only make things worse, we should try to minimize or eliminate our presence in these countries. Other than trying to stabilize them against organized bandit/terrorist elements like ISIS, we should play no roles and keep very quiet.

I still don't know how we will ever get out of Afghanistan. It's a real problem, our special forces are being exhausted by these unending campaigns. We can't win a final victory over the Pashtun/Taliban unless we kill every last one of them. And they won't ever give up the fight until we leave. Then they subjugate Kabul and the rest of Afghanistan and reimpose full sharia law.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-29   14:44:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Tooconservative (#24)

I still don't know how we will ever get out of Afghanistan.

Break the vials in the rivers. Tell the surrounding nations to be ready to repel the fleeing natives at the borders.

Wait three weeks, and just make sure you inoculate the people you send into resettle it. Easy peasy lemon-squeezy.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-29   14:52:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Vicomte13 (#26)

Break the vials in the rivers. Tell the surrounding nations to be ready to repel the fleeing natives at the borders.

Well, it is a direct solution.

You must realize there are some squeamish political doves that would throw a fit at the very idea.

So not a realistic solution.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-29   15:28:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Tooconservative (#29)

You must realize there are some squeamish political doves that would throw a fit at the very idea.

So not a realistic solution.

Obviously you can't tell anybody you're doing it.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-29   17:19:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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