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Title: Ron Paul: Republicans, Democrats Teaming Up for Federal Gun Confiscation Bill
Source: Free Thought Project
URL Source: https://thefreethoughtproject.com/r ... federal-gun-confiscation-bill/
Published: May 23, 2018
Author: Matt Agorist
Post Date: 2018-05-24 10:09:08 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 2256
Comments: 27

In an email Tuesday night, former Congressman and presidential candidate Ron Paul released an ominous statement claiming that a source they have in the Senate revealed Democrats are teaming up with Republicans to push through a massive gun control bill.

According to their source, as Paul explained, “Senators Marco Rubio (R-FL) and Lindsey Graham (R-SC) are teaming up with Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) to ram through one of the worst nationwide gun confiscation schemes ever devised.”

The gun confiscation bill, according to Paul, is designed to disarm Americans without any due process. The senators are using the recent tragic shooting in Texas as the impetus behind the law—in spite of the fact that this law would not have prevented the shooting at all.

As the Free Thought Project has previously reported, some states have already begun implementing laws like this one. Using mass shootings as a their ammunition, states have enacted “Red Flag” or “Risk Protection” laws which allow police to confiscate a person’s weapon before they are ever given a chance to defend themselves.

In both of the gun confiscation cases reported by TFTP, neither of the two men were suspected of committing a crime, nor had they committed a crime.

Under the fifth and fourteenth amendments, due process clauses are in place to act as a safeguard from arbitrary denial of life, liberty, or property by the government outside the sanction of law. What’s more, neither of the men were granted their sixth amendment rights to be confronted with the witnesses against them. In both cases, simple orders—under new laws—were issued, arguably arbitrarily, which stripped these two men of their property.

In spite of what officials and the media claim, when a person is stripped of their constitutional rights, albeit temporarily, without being given the chance to make their own case based on what can be entirely arbitrary accusations, this is the removal of due process.

As Ron Paul explains, this removal of due process could soon be a federal law.

Under so-called “Red Flag” or “Risk Protection” Orders, anti-gun family members, neighbors, or associates could have your guns taken away based on mere accusations without any real due process or trial.

In secret court proceedings, where only your accuser is present, judges could determine that you pose a “significant danger” to someone, including yourself.

Imagine your surprise when a heavily armed SWAT Team arrives to seize your lawfully owned firearms.

It would then cost you tens of thousands of dollars in court costs and weeks or even months to try and convince the court they made a mistake.

To be clear, no one here is advocating for people determined to be mentally unfit to be able to possess firearms. However, they need to be determined to be mentally unfit before they lose their rights.

To those who may be in favor of such laws, consider the following: There is no way to stop an estranged spouse from calling police repeatedly and telling them their ex is threatening to cause harm to others. While the man in Florida had his guns taken for being psychologically unfit, the man in Seattle simply open-carried a pistol and looked out of windows and his guns were taken because his neighbors thought it was strange.

Anyone, any time, now has the ability to claim someone else is a threat and have police take their guns. One does not need to delve into the multiple ‘what if’ scenarios to see what sort of ominous implications arise from such a practice. What’s more, police in some states now have the power to deem you a threat at any time and legally disarm you—due process be damned.

This is the exact scenario that Donald Trump advocated for in February.

The words of the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution are so easy to grasp:

“. . . the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

There were no asterisks and no footnotes. There are no sentences that follow which start with the words “unless” or “however.” The right to defend your life and property shall not be infringed by the government.

Period.

Paul’s Campaign for Liberty has set up the Defend the Second Amendment Directive where citizens can sign a petition to demand their Senator not pass this blow to freedom and self-defense. You can sign it here.

Please share this article to let your friends and family that saying, “they are coming for our guns,” is not a conspiracy theory.

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

Dementia? Poor old guy. Rand needs to put him in a nursing home.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-05-24   10:13:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone, Deckard (#1)

Dementia? Poor old guy. Rand needs to put him in a nursing home.

I would prefer that he finally retire and let Rand do the family politics. This is a distraction.

I always say that these pols need to finally go away when they retire. Bushes, Xlintons, 0bamas, Carter (who's now saying that Trump may deserve the Nobel Peace Prize, lol), the whole lot need to go away and just shut the hell up. I don't make any exception for Ron Paul.

According to their source, as Paul explained, “Senators Marco Rubio (R-FL) and Lindsey Graham (R-SC) are teaming up with Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) to ram through one of the worst nationwide gun confiscation schemes ever devised.”

You simply cannot rule it out. It seems a little unlikely overall to me though because the time for Rubio to cave in and start plotting -- like the GangOf8 backstabber that he is -- would have been at the height of the Parkland hysteria. There's been relatively little coverage of the Texas shooting so why would Rubio cave now, especially when Florida is still gun country? Graham has a few times threatened to make common cause with the Dems against the GOP but he hasn't really carried through. He's kind of a weenie, especially now that he no longer has McStain and Lieberman pulling his strings and propping him up. So I don't know that Graham would be too eager to sign on to gungrabbing. It would not be popular in South Carolina and his participation would not be forgotten.

I'm not sure how much of this I believe. Maybe Rubio and Graham are talking with Feinstein but I'd like to see some evidence of a bill they are actually writing.

There is no chance that the House would pass such a bill so this seems an exercise in futility. It would be suicide in an election year for the GOP.

And McConnell is the one who has to agree to bring a bill to the floor. And he will not agree to that due to the midterms. Which means that Rubio and Graham would only be hurting the Senate GOP candidates up for re-election and the prospects of taking the seats of the Red state Dem senators. And Rubio/Graham would be excoriated for it. And the Right would never forget it either.

I don't think you'll ever see a gungrab bill pass Congress and get signed by any prez in an election year. I always think that the time of year the 2nd Amendment is most in danger is from February through April after a congressional election. If some massacre happens in those months with a new congress in ofice, the pols might think that many voters would forget about the gungrab after a year and half when the next election will happen. Any later and the pols get too nervous to try a gungrab, no matter what the polls say.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-24   10:56:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#6. To: Tooconservative (#4)

There is no chance that the House would pass such a bill

Right - because Trump (take the guns first, due process second) is the POTUS.

How's the kool-aid?

Deckard  posted on  2018-05-24 11:11:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Tooconservative, A K A Stone, Deckard (#4)

This is why I do not trust Rubio.

I remember everyone claiming how great he would be but he seem to me to wet his finger and stick in the sky to see which way he needs to go. That is a career politician to me. That's why I like Cruz and Trump.

Justified  posted on  2018-05-24 11:36:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Tooconservative (#4)

There is no chance that the House would pass such a bill so this seems an exercise in futility.

Well, there are 192 Democrats, 100% who will vote as they're told. 218 is a majority, so they only need 26 Republicans. Of course there's a chance.

But I see no gun bill on the horizon. Just Chicken Little talk.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-24 12:08:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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