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Title: Can a pope change moral truth?
Source: WND
URL Source: http://www.wnd.com/2018/05/can-a-pope-change-moral-truth/
Published: May 22, 2018
Author: Patrick J. Buchanan
Post Date: 2018-05-22 10:44:21 by redleghunter
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That joking retort we heard as children, “Is the pope Catholic?” is starting to look like a serious question.

Asked five years ago about a “gay lobby” in the Vatican, Pope Francis responded, “If a person is gay and seeks God and has good will, who am I to judge?”

As judgment was thought to be part of the papal job description, traditional Catholics were startled at what the new pope had volunteered. Now the Holy Father has apparently fleshed out what he meant. According to a childhood victim of a pedophile priest in Chile, Juan Carlos Cruz, a homosexual to whom the pope apologized, Francis said: “God made you like this and loves you like this and I don’t care. The pope does love you like this. You have to be happy with who you are.” The Vatican has not denied what Cruz relates.

What makes this remarkable is that the catechism of the Catholic Church, based on the Old and New Testament and tradition, has always taught that homosexuality is a moral disorder, a proclivity toward sexual relations that are unnatural and immoral.

The idea that God is responsible for homosexual orientations, that the pope and the Catholic Church are fine with men being attracted to one another, and that those so oriented should be happy with it, appears, on its face, to be heresy. It implies that what Catholics regarded for centuries as moral truth was wrong, or that moral truth has evolved and must be made to conform to modernity. This is moral relativism: Truth changes with the times. And if what Cruz reports is accurate, the pope’s position is close to Hillary Clinton’s.

In 2016, at a New York fundraiser, Clinton recited her infamous litany of sins common to the “basket of deplorables” backing Donald Trump. Said Hillary, they are “racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic.”

A phobia is “an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something.” Clinton was thus saying that those who have an aversion to homosexuality are morally or mentally sick.

Yet, up until December 1973, homosexuality itself was listed as a mental disorder by the American Psychiatric Association.

The new morality we hear from the pope and Hillary reflects a historic change in the moral thinking of the West. For the belief that homosexuality is normal and natural, and not only acceptable but even praiseworthy, has carried the day.

Legislatures and courts have written this “truth” into law. It has been discovered by the Supreme Court to be lurking in that Constitution whose authors regarded and treated homosexuality as a grave crime.

And, yet, from this historic change, questions naturally arise: On the issue of homosexuality, have we ascended to a higher moral plateau? Or has America jettisoned the truths we believed and replaced them with the tenets of an ideology that may be politically and culturally ascendant but is rooted in nothing but baseless assertions and lies?

Consider the views of Cardinal Gerhard Muller, lately removed as Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, as to what is behind the drive to have “homophobia” regarded as a mental disorder.

“Homophobia (is) an invention and an instrument of the totalitarian dominance over the thoughts of others. The homo-movement is lacking scientific arguments, which is why it created an ideology which wants to dominate by creating its own reality.”

In short, cultural Marxists and their progressive allies have taken an ideological assertion – homosexuality is normal, natural and moral – without any historical, biological or scientific basis, and asserted it as truth, established it as law, and demanded that we accept and act upon this truth, or face the wrath of the regime.

Said Muller: “It is the Marxist pattern according to which reality does not create thinking, but thinking creates its own reality. He who does not accept this created reality is to be considered as being sick.

“It is as if one could influence an illness with the help of the police or with the help of courts. In the Soviet Union, Christians were put into psychiatric clinics. These are the methods of totalitarian regimes, of National Socialism and of Communism.”

As Russell Kirk wrote, ideology is political religion. And the dogmas of the political religion by which we are increasingly ruled have displaced the teachings of Christianity and tradition.

Since the Stonewall Riot of 1969, homosexual relationships have gone from being seen as indecent and immoral, to being tolerated, to being accepted, to being on the same plane as traditional marriage, to being a constitutional right. And if you do not accept the new morality, you are a deplorable bigot. And if you act on your disbelief in the equality of homosexuality, you will be ostracized and punished.

The truths being jettisoned built the greatest civilization known to man. Will the invented truths of our new egalitarianism survive the arrival of the new barbarians? It’s not looking all that good right now.

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#1. To: redleghunter (#0) (Edited)

Not this one. This one's a turdworld socialist moron.
Pope Dope the First sucks ass; we need Pope Quitter back.
Strangle the cashflow.......

"No collection plate for YOU!"

Hank Rearden  posted on  2018-05-22   10:51:25 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Hank Rearden (#1)

I take it you are a traditional Roman Catholic? :)

redleghunter  posted on  2018-05-22   11:44:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: redleghunter (#2)

I take it you are a traditional Roman Catholic? :)

Not hypertraditional, but yes. I despise the current Pope Dope the First, the turdworld socialist who needs to go.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2018-05-22   12:40:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: redleghunter (#0)

Can a pope change moral truth?

He can if he has enough stupid sons of bitches who believe in him!

rlk  posted on  2018-05-22   13:48:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: redleghunter (#0)

Said Muller: “It is the Marxist pattern according to which reality does not create thinking, but thinking creates its own reality. He who does not accept this created reality is to be considered as being sick.

Award Cardinal Muller a Nobel prize for encapsulating half of what's gone wrong with the world.

rlk  posted on  2018-05-22   14:12:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: redleghunter, Hank Rearden, rlk, Vicomte13 (#0)

Buchanan nails this one.

I'm not so sure.

The truth is that virtually every cradle Catholic will support the institution of the Roman church. They do this ultimately because of 1) last rites and 2) death cookies.

All the moralizing, all the kerfuffle of more traditional Catholics aside, they may object (somewhat) but they won't leave it. Because ... last rites and death cookies.

Yes, it really is that simple.

The Roman rites/cookies is a quick ticket to heaven by people of nominal religion. It is the Roman flipside of the once-saved-always-saved doctrines among some non-Roman churches.

Ya just gotta feel that your destination ticket is punched, no matter what else your church leaders may be doing that you find extremely objectionable and outside tradition or sensibility.

I think this particular pope is the worst in a long time. He seems to be following the trail of incremental apostasy blazed by the archbishops of Canterbury. And this makes some sense as the Anglicans similarly have a lot of conservative bishops off in the Third World but are similarly headquartered in a liberal post-Christian First World country.

I find it especially annoying that Pope Frank constantly makes "personal statements" contrary to Christian orthodoxy (Roman or non-Roman) and then claims those are either "personal opinions" or that "the pope was misunderstood and still upholds the doctrines of Rome and orthodox Christian tradition".

The constant eruptions of controversy about this pope's private audiences are no accident. They're part of a cunning and deliberate plan. And he is very much part of it.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-22   14:37:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: redleghunter (#0)

Francis said: "...The pope does love you like this. You have to be happy with who you are.”

Good grief. Right out of the mouth of The Devil himself. Surely Jesus Christ would have taken Franny to the wood-shed over this statement. Most Christians easily know better than this as would even many non-Christians. We all have work to do.

Isn't this Anti-Christ pontiff now fully out of the closet about embracing one's dark nature (and fast-track to Hell for eternity)? Buchanan is right -- this fake Pope is actually celebrating Moral Relativism.

This fraudulent "Vicar of Christ" commits to no definitive moral position -- whether normal or queer; whether good or evil. Francis is broadcasting that he's a literal and proud Devil's Advocate.

How and why anyone would remain a Roman Catholic and accept this heretic as their "leader" (while leading their own children into the pit of Hell in the process) is beyond logic. Hitler and Stalin may have murdered millions in their flesh, but couldn't steal their souls. Francis is condemning the soul of millions.

Liberator  posted on  2018-05-22   15:18:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Tooconservative (#6)

The truth is that virtually every cradle Catholic will support the institution of the Roman church. They do this ultimately because of 1) last rites and 2) death cookies.

You really think that is the truth? It isn't as I experience it, not by a country mile.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-22   15:23:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Vicomte13 (#8)

You really think that is the truth?

Yep.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-22   15:26:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Tooconservative (#9)

Yep.

It isn't for me.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-22   15:31:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Liberator (#7)

Hitler and Stalin may have murdered millions in their flesh, but couldn't steal their souls. Francis is condemning the soul of millions.

This above.

redleghunter  posted on  2018-05-22   17:02:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Tooconservative (#6)

The truth is that virtually every cradle Catholic will support the institution of the Roman church. They do this ultimately because of 1) last rites and 2) death cookies.

All the moralizing, all the kerfuffle of more traditional Catholics aside, they may object (somewhat) but they won't leave it. Because ... last rites and death cookies.

Yes, it really is that simple.

AKA the Teddy Kennedys are in the church in both life and death no matter what.

redleghunter  posted on  2018-05-22   17:03:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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