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Title: Europe may be realizing America isn’t their sugar daddy or punching bag
Source: HotAir
URL Source: https://hotair.com/archives/2018/05 ... isnt-sugar-daddy-punching-bag/
Published: May 21, 2018
Author: Jazz Shaw
Post Date: 2018-05-21 00:23:20 by Tooconservative
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This may prove to be an apt moment to discuss the state of the union. But I’m not talking about the U.S. State of the Union here, but rather the state of the European Union. According to some sources, things aren’t looking very good in Brussels when it comes to their view of America. And while President Trump has certainly been a major driver of distress among some European leaders, they’re worried about a sea change which could be the new normal in Euro-American relations.

Michael Birnbaum, Brussels bureau chief covering Europe, and his Europe-focused colleague Griff Witte have an opinion piece at the Washington Post which describes the ongoing turmoil. While many of the complaints being aired are rather predictable liberal/socialist concerns over an erosion of the status quo, they also reflect the shifting nature of international diplomacy in the 21st century. They describe many of Europe’s leaders as basically keeping an eye on the clock and hoping they can ride out the Trump presidency, but even after he eventually leaves office, they’re worried that things won’t snap back to the old normal.
Trump may not be an aberration that can be waited out, with his successor likely to push reset after four or eight years of fraught ties. Instead, the blend of unilateralism, nationalism and protectionism Trump embodies may be the new American normal.

“It is dawning on a number of European players that Trump may not be an outlier,” said Josef Janning, head of the Berlin office of the European Council on Foreign Relations. “More and more people are seeing it as a larger change in the United States.”

Even before Trump was elected, Europeans sensed that Washington’s traditional role as guarantor of the continent’s security and stability was slipping away, and that post-World War II ties were fading along with the generations that forged them.

But Trump’s seeming delight in smashing transatlantic bonds — and the lack of domestic constraints on his ability to do so — has signaled, Janning said, that the basis for Western strength and peace for 70-plus years “probably won’t come back.”

This editorial piece paints a rather dismal picture of the leadership inside the EU right now. The authors focus heavily on the anger (or at least disappointment) of many EU leaders in Trump’s decision to pull out of the Iran deal, but it goes much further than that. European Council President Donald Tusk is quoted as saying of Trump, “With friends like that, who needs enemies?” He goes on to dismiss, “the capricious assertiveness of the American administration.”

The situation in Germany is, in their view, becoming particularly problematic, with a majority of Germans seeing their relationship with America deteriorating. The cover of Der Spiegel last week sums it up nicely.
IMAGE: Cover of German magazine Der Spiegel pic.twitter.com/oMl7k91ien

— The Spectator Index (@spectatorindex) May 11, 2018

Underlying all of the quotes and interpretations is a common theme. The old way of doing business seems to be crumbling. And by that, they mean (and specifically admit in a few cases) that Europe has relied on both American money and military might to build their own version of western culture ever since World War 2. They didn’t need to invest in their own military (and Germany’s is nearly defunct at this point) because the United States was the superpower that would always stop anyone else from attacking them, and foot the bill to boot. They could build their economies and arrange all manner of favorable trade deals, including using government subsidies to warp the markets, secure in the knowledge that America wouldn’t do anything about it. All the while, America fell further into debt and our military was strained to the breaking point.

And then came Trump. It was probably surprising to the Europeans that many Americans responded strongly and positively when the President talked about unfair trade deals and the need for our allies to kick in more toward their own defense. The President is hardly universally loved at home, but the fears of these European leaders may be revealing something which wasn’t previously discussed. Whether you agree with the President on most things or not, these disparities were issues that resonated with a wide swath of the voters. And whether Donald Trump is in office for eight years or only four, America may deliver another president who will bring the same expectations to the table.

So perhaps the quoted EU leaders are correct. Perhaps the relationship has shifted on some fundamental level. And just maybe that shift was long overdue.

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#1. To: Tooconservative (#0)

The problem is that Europe is an old proud civilization that today values hers comfort.

You can humiliate them or you can take their wealth. But you cannot do both.

A Pole  posted on  2018-05-21   6:30:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: A Pole (#1)

You can humiliate them or you can take their wealth. But you cannot do both.

We can certainly do both. And we will if they don't comply.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-21   9:10:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: A Pole (#1)

I had to laugh at this silly propaganda.

But Trump’s seeming delight in smashing transatlantic bonds — and the lack of domestic constraints on his ability to do so — has signaled, Janning said, that the basis for Western strength and peace for 70-plus years “probably won’t come back.”

This is the direct result of 0bama and his pen-and-phone approach to the Paris Accords and the JCPOA Iran deal.

If 0bama had negotiated a treaty and passed it -- which would be hard but not impossible -- then Trump would have had no choice but to obey those treaties.

The EU has been foolish, pretending that agreements with 0bama are the same thing as a treaty with America. Yet, they do still have their agreement with 0bama. Let them appeal to 0bama to enforce those agreements now. Trump is in no way bound by them. The EU should know quite well that an agreement with some American prez is worthless compared to a treaty. Look at how the League of Nations turned out when they failed to get a treaty from the U.S. Senate.

And don't be so sure that NATO is untouchable either. The WW II generation that gave rise to NATO and supported it are dying off. America can always keep its bases and facilities in the EU at minimal staffing levels but withdraw entirely otherwise.

Just a serious threat to do so would make governments across Europe topple.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-21   9:18:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Tooconservative (#3)

Just a serious threat to do so [away with NATO] would make governments across Europe topple.

Dream on.

A Pole  posted on  2018-05-21   9:24:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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