BRUSSELS (ChurchMilitant.com) - Brussels is getting backlash from Poland for flying a gay flag outside of the European Parliament.
On Thursday, a rainbow flag was hoisted up in front of the building for the first time in its history, marking "International Day Against Homophobia, Transphobia and Biphobia."
Despite outcry from Polish conservatives, the European Union said, "Regrettably, lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and intersex (LGBTI) persons in Europe are still subject to serious discrimination and maltreatment on the basis of their sexual orientation or gender identity."
Ryszard Legutko, co-chairman of the European Conservatives and Reformists group, said in a letter to the European Parliament that Thursday's initiative displayed "just one lobby group."
He questioned why the Parliament would not promote other unofficial "international days" like those celebrating museums, beer or students.
Since 1990, May 17 has been remembered as the anniversary of the removal of homosexuality from the International Classification of Diseases of the World Health Organization.
But Legutko blasted the display of a rainbow flag, saying it endorses a "moral revolution" that privileges same-sex couples. There are "practically no ... attacks" on those with same-sex attraction, Legutko emphasized.
There are 'practically no ... attacks' on those with same-sex attraction.
This didn't stop the European Commission and European External Action Service, also in Brussels, from illuminating its headquarters with the colors of the gay flag.
Frans Timmermans, vice president of the European Commission, said, "It's time we put an end to the widespread discrimination against LGBTI people together."
However, Legutko instead recommended hoisting a flag with a fish — a symbol of Christianity — to symbolize the millions of Christians suffering persecution worldwide.
Poster Comment:
Many of us are sick and tired of politicians kissing the asses of queers! Resurrect the law that outlaws homosexual acts and proselytizing today's thoroughly confused youth. The belong hidden under a rock.
Widespread LGBTQI discrimination? Where? When? By whom? If it happens there must have been major stories in the press. But nothing.
Instead what I see are Christians being slaughtered and persecuted by the thousands over the last 20 years and not a word from the atheistic marxists in Brussels, London, Berlin, Paris.
Resurrect the law that outlaws homosexual acts and proselytizing today's thoroughly confused youth.
Any other anti-personal freedom laws you want passed,comrade?
And if you seriously think "today's thoroughly confused youth" that are heterosexuals can actually be talked into becoming homosexuals,you are a bi-sexual that is already a member of that group.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
It looks like a total non-event with 200 people attending, probably over half of them paid government workers at the EU Ministry of Sodomy
Naw,I'm guessing 150 of them were reporters,2 or 3 were people who were lost and looking for directions,several were cops,and the rest were people employed by some pro-homo think tank.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
In that case you are a fool. Homosexuals father or give birth to children every day,and have done so since the dawn of time.
Not so much any more unless they're rich and hire a surrogate mother.
The bigger thing now is two gay guys raising an adopted Chinese baby girl somewhere in the suburbs.
Hardly any gay guys bother to get married and pretend to be straight any more.
With gays absenting themselves from the gene pool more than they ever have, you have to wonder if we'll see a result from this. If gaiety tends to run in families (for whatever reason), there should be a lot fewer gays in 20-30 years as a result.
You would agree that they do it a lower rate, based on common sense?
Of course. First of all,there are FAR fewer true homosexuals than there are bi-sexuals and heterosexuals.
I am speaking of bi-sexual and heterosexual people as people who have those desires,regardless of if they are sexually active or not.
Over the course of several generations such genes would be wiped out of the pool.
Ain't no such thing in the known universe. We are ALL born with both female and male genes. Somehow or another the "correct balance" of genes, for what of a more scientific description, to create a completely heterosexual baby,gets out of whack,and a baby will be born with a genetic inclination to be sexually attracted to people of the same gender,or people of both genders.
These people have no more control over who they are sexually attracted to than you do,so why do you think it is permissible for government to punish them for what amounts to a genetic birth defect?
BTW,don't even THINK that you can deny that all of us are both with both male and female genetic codes until you can come up with an explanation of why males are born with nipples.
BTW-2,NONE of this means that you personally have to like any of it. It just means that government doesn't have the right to dictate private behavior to people just because we don't like or approve of what they might be doing in private.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
These people have no more control over who they are sexually attracted to than you do,so why do you think it is permissible for government to punish them for what amounts to a genetic birth defect?
I don't. Same way with adulterers (as they feel sexually attracted to other people's wives) , I do not want government to punish them.
Yeah who cares if those Catholics molest little kids. It is private and consensual right?
You would have a point if you could show us where it is only illegal for homosexuals to molest children,and just peachy-keen for pedophiles to molest children of the opposite sex.
You can't,so you don't have an argument.
Pedophilia is about the sexual attraction to CHILDREN.not just homosexual attraction to children of the same gender as the offender.
I am far from being an authority on this issue,but it seems like I read years ago that MOST pedophiles have a gender preference,but will abduct and rape children of either gender because their sexual "kink" is for children,not children of a specific gender.
This kind of conduct just cannot be allowed. They either need to be permanently sealed away from contact with any and all children,or chemically castrated as well as given drugs to decrease their sexual desire by checking in at a clinic every day and given the drug under medical supervision. If they are not willing to sign up for that,they just need to be locked away,
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
And even further, all serial killers have been proven to be homosexual.
Where did you pick up on that little factoid? Hear if from your cult leader during Sunday services at the compound?
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Because Catholic Priests are their "mainline to Gawd",and Catholic Priests are not allowed to marry or date women. Kinda sets the tone for a certain type of male to want to become a Priest,doesn't it?
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
By 'adult activity' do you mean where one male shoves his pe-pee up another's poo-poo?
How old are you,9?
Does your mom know you are posting here?
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Not so much any more unless they're rich and hire a surrogate mother.
Only if you live in a yuppie community like Hollywood,NYC,Bridgeport,etc,etc,etc.
The majority of children born to homosexuals are born to married male and female parents,and are usually the result of at least one partner being bi-sexual,in the closet due to guilt feelings,and trying to "pass" as what we all laughingly call "normal".
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
I don't. Same way with adulterers (as they feel sexually attracted to other people's wives) , I do not want government to punish them.
My apologies for misunderstanding you.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
The majority of children born to homosexuals are born to married male and female parents,and are usually the result of at least one partner being bi-sexual,in the closet due to guilt feelings,and trying to "pass" as what we all laughingly call "normal".
There is another possible reason as well. A few that I know personally, sorely miss having a normal family life. They feel alone, and are sad when they see other people children and grandchildren. They told me this more than one time.
And curiously, they are quite conservative and dislike all those "LGBT" activists.
The majority of children born to homosexuals are born to married male and female parents,and are usually the result of at least one partner being bi-sexual,in the closet due to guilt feelings,and trying to "pass" as what we all laughingly call "normal".
Resurrect the law that outlaws homosexual acts and proselytizing today's thoroughly confused youth.
I'm all for it. There's nothing discriminatory or unconstitutional about regulating behavior. If we don't like it, why should we have to put up with it?
If liberals can ban prayer in schools -- a constitutional right protected by the first amendment -- we can certainly ban homosexual behavior.
These people have no more control over who they are sexually attracted to than you do,so why do you think it is permissible for government to punish them for what amounts to a genetic birth defect?
I don't.
You should. What about those born with "what amounts to a genetic birth defect" an attraction to young children? Animals? Dead bodies? They get a pass also because they were "born that way"?
There's a thing called "self- control". I don't care what you're attracted to. If society is against it, control yourself. We do not have to accept perversion.
You react with the same luke warmness that the Pope does when faggots are discovered in the Vatican in positions of influence. Your indifference to evil is your pc weakness.
Why are catholics so tolerant of faggots?
Because I believe in human liberty, and when it comes to victimless crimes, I believe that such things should be decriminalized so they are not crimes at all.
I do not want to pay police, prosecutors and prison guards, and empower them to intervene in people's bedrooms. I think people who are obsessed about the subject are themselves closeted perverts in some sense or others, sort of like cross-dressing Nancy-boy J. Edgar Hoover who loved to spy on people to get their sexual secrets, then blackmail them using it.
Because of that long-standing tradition of law enforcement and government to use evidence of criminalized private sex to control people, I want the power removed from government to do that. Monica Lewinsky and Stormy Daniels and that guy who Obama used to blow are not of concern to me, and I want to make sure the law stays with me, so that people who ARE concerned about these things are left without power to do anything about it.
I am not indifferent to evil: I think that extorting political concessions from people using the threat of revealing their sex lives is much, MUCH more evil than the actual sex acts.
You don't agree, obviously. The parameters of the law have been worked out in the public square, and the people agree with me a lot more than they agree with you, so you lose.
If society is against it, control yourself. We do not have to accept perversion.
If. Truth is, society is more against police intrusion in the bedroom than it is against perversion, and we - the majority -are right about that. So we've stripped away the power of you, the minority, to enforce laws on private sexual behavior. You still hate it, but you've lost the law. We took it from you, and we're not giving it back.
You have to accept that perversion is legal, because it is, and we're not going to let you make it illegal again.
I'm all for it. There's nothing discriminatory or unconstitutional about regulating behavior. If we don't like it, why should we have to put up with it?
You are a true democrat (little d): what "we", don't like, we don't put up with.
That's how we got to tolerating gays, legalizing marijuana, even ending the Vietnam War and racial segregation. We, the majority, finally got tired of putting up with things we didn't like, and we changed the law to suit us. It's why we have a progressive tax code instead of a flat tax or a national sales tax. It's why alcohol prohibition was thrown out.
It's why abortion was kept legal once the Supreme Court changed the law.
It's why the obscenity laws were swept away in all but name, and why sports betting will be sweeping across the USA soon.
It's why the 55 MPH speed limit didn't hold.
It's not hard to look at a couple of more things that we're beginning to like less and less: police brutality and school shootings.
On all of the various issues, the only one I can see that the people have gotten wrong has been abortion. So, I'm all for going the route you suggest: If WE don't like it, we outlaw it. WE is the people, the electorate.
We don't CARE about gay sex, and we don't LIKE laws that go into the bedroom. So now the former is legal, and the latter have been swept aside.
YOU don't like what the people like on a lot of vectors, which is why it's a mistake for you to take such a democratic line. Democracy works for me and the way I want to see things, it REALLY doesn't work for you. You're an authoritarian at heart. The people don't like what you like.
So yes, there's nothing discriminatory or unconstitutional about regulating behavior. if we don't like it, we should we have to put up with it? Let's put these things to a vote. Wait - we already have, in state after state. My side won.
So we've stripped away the power of you, the minority, to enforce laws on private sexual behavior.
I'm against the public, not private, behavior of gays.
I don't want my children exposed to perversion and a lifestyle choice associated with the spread of a deadly disease and other STDs, rampant drug use, sex orgies, sex with strangers, different sex partners every week, and a high rate of depression and suicide.
Even those gays who "fall in love" and "get married" feel no obligation to remain sexually monogamous.
So go ahead and engage in your private behavior. I won't stop you.
There is another possible reason as well. A few that I know personally, sorely miss having a normal family life. They feel alone, and are sad when they see other people children and grandchildren. They told me this more than one time.
And curiously, they are quite conservative and dislike all those "LGBT" activists.
I've had the same experiences with a few I have known.
The sad and simple truth is that most people just want to live normal lives and be happy.
Sounds easy to do,doesn't it?
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
The majority of children born to homosexuals are born to married male and female parents,and are usually the result of at least one partner being bi-sexual,in the closet due to guilt feelings,and trying to "pass" as what we all laughingly call "normal".
You're living in the past.
Really? Some super creature somewhere has developed a new and improved Mark 5 human?
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
I'm all for it. There's nothing discriminatory or unconstitutional about regulating behavior. If we don't like it, why should we have to put up with it?
It depends on the behavior and the situation,and you have to put up with it for the same reasons other people have to put up with YOUR brain farts,as long as you are not harming anyone else.
Nobody died and made you a public personality monitor.
If liberals can ban prayer in schools -- a constitutional right protected by the first amendment -- we can certainly ban homosexual behavior.
First of all,there is NOTHING the least bit "liberal" about those people,so quit bragging on them.
Secondly,you are a bleeping clueless fool if you can't understand that what YOU are demanding is PRECISELY the same thing you are bitching about,the right to deny other people their rights to live their lives in peace.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
You should. What about those born with "what amounts to a genetic birth defect" an attraction to young children? Animals? Dead bodies? They get a pass also because they were "born that way"?
Are you REALLY so stupid you can't figure that out?
You should have been born in Germany or Russia in the 20's. You would have fit right in with the official police state state of mind back then,and made a good work camp guard.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
If. Truth is, society is more against police intrusion in the bedroom than it is against perversion, and we - the majority -are right about that. So we've stripped away the power of you, the minority, to enforce laws on private sexual behavior. You still hate it, but you've lost the law. We took it from you, and we're not giving it back.
ATTENTION MISTER WHITE!
NEENER,NEENER!
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
I'm against the public, not private, behavior of gays.
You sure don't sound like it. Seems to me every post you make is "there oughta be a law to make faggots illegal!"
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Homosexuals father or give birth to children every day, and have done so since the dawn of time. You would agree that they do it a lower rate, based on common sense? Over the course of several generations such genes would be wiped out of the pool. Ergo - homosexuality is acquired.
Unfortunately your theorem isn't as supported as well as we might hope, there seems to be more of them or perhaps the zombie hordes have always been with us, hiding in the sewers like allegators
Gays made their gains through the courts, not through the legislatures. Let's be clear about that.
Not so. The Supreme Court swept aside statutes barring gay marriage, but anti-discrimination statutes have been put into place through the vote in states and municipalities all over the country.
In this sense, it is similar to Roe v. Wade, or to Prohibition.
Had a vote been taken to legalize abortion in 1973, it would have failed, but the Supreme Court ruled. Were it put to a vote today, abortion would remain legal.
In a similar vein, Prohibition was pushed through by organized Christian Temperance organizations, but once the law was in place the public at large resented the law, broke it on a massive scale, and ultimately overcame the standard apathy to come out and vote. Indeed, the drive to end Prohibition assisted FDR in getting elected President the first time.
The Courts and the ballot box work together to change things. Frequently the court breaks entrenched political power, and the people go to the ballot box to protect their gains against the revanche
Condemned, sure. But outlawed? No. Empowers the police and politicians too much. If people want to piss on each other and roll around in feces, I think there's something wrong with them. If they do it in the street that needs to be stopped. But to empower the authorities to go into private places to stop and punish things that people do in private? No. It's much worse to have such powerful police than it is to have people committing acts against nature.
"My dear, I don't care what people do so long as they don't do it in the street and frighten the horses." - Mrs. Patrick Campbell
But to empower the authorities to go into private places to stop and punish things that people do in private? No.
I suppose it follows, then, to ask "Where do you draw the line?"
After all, people can molest children, beat slaves, drown puppies, traffic heroin and make bombs in private. Do we just let that go?
No. You draw the line at murder, non-consensual sex, slavery, animal cruelty and terrorism. Drugs is where the issue gets muddier. Is it better to maintain drug prohibition and thereby keep the general level of drug abuse and drug addiction lower in the society, as alcohol prohibition did (50% reduction in cirrhosis during prohibition - it massively reduced alcoholism and drunkness, but at the price of intrusion and organized crime)? Or is it better to let people consume what they will unmolested, and treat the results medically?
I would say it's a line-drawing exercise, just as drinking ages are. Strong drugs such as LSD and opiods are terrifically destructive fast. Weak drugs, such as cannabis or nicotine, don't destroy most people who have used them, and most people have tried them at one point or other in their lives.
The line is drawn where democracy draws it. If I were King, or running a political party, I would call of marijuana to be treated as tobacco, and for the drinking age to be lowered to 18.
I expect that in our democracy, I will eventually win on the first point: pot is gradually being legalized. I'm not really comfortable with that: I would have preferred that the harsh drug laws from Rockefeller until now really had stamped out drugs. But they didn't, and they won't, and I'm not willing to go on chewing up lives in a losing war.
I expect that I would lose on the second: when the drinking age was 18 there was a lot more death on the roads from drunken high schoolers.
It is not. You do not understand how natural selection work.
Is adultery acquired? What about democracy?
Tendency toward adultery is based on genes. Why? Because it helps to pass MORE genes to the next generation.
Tendency toward equality and justice is supported by the selection as it secures more genes for the weaker to pass. So is tendency to dominate and grab more - it helps strong to increase their share in the pool.
You will say it is contradictory. Yes, because nature is not a legal code.
We would have to open up a discussion of nature, law, science, God, existence, philosophy to take this one to ground.
I could have that discussion with you, if you really wanted it. This forum is a strange place to try to have such a discussion, because it will be like Socrates and Plato having a discussion around a campfire...in a jungle full of angry bears and wild bucks in rutting season.
Still, if you really want to have that discussion, we can. Could be interesting.
Still, if you really want to have that discussion, we can. Could be interesting.
These topics are more like work for me. Actually it was in my past. I could explain one thing or two, but to debate, the topics would have to be more advanced.
For example how the neo-Lamarckian schemes and original (pre-genetic) Darwinism relate to gene sharing and communication within ecosystems and biosphere as a whole. Also how the gene switching is regulated. Also the role of inter-population segregation in targeted streams of micro-evolution. Evolution of human gene pools interacting with collective psyche. Etc ...
These topics are more like work for me. Actually it was in my past. I could explain one thing or two, but to debate, the topics would have to be more advanced.
For example how the neo-Lamarckian schemes and original (pre-genetic) Darwinism relate to gene sharing and communication within ecosystems and biosphere as a whole. Also how the gene switching is regulated. Also the role of inter-population segregation in targeted streams of micro-evolution. Evolution of human gene pools interacting with collective psyche. Etc ...
I didn't say debate. I find debate useless and uninteresting. Nobody ever convinced me of anything by taking an adversarial position to me and fighting with me. Not one time, in 55 years, has anybody ever convinced me of a single thing by debate. Debate is completely useless.
Not so. The Supreme Court swept aside statutes barring gay marriage, but anti-discrimination statutes have been put into place through the vote in states and municipalities all over the country.
From Wiki:
"The strongest expansions in LGBT rights in the United States have come from the United States Supreme Court. In four landmark rulings between the years 1996 and 2015, the Supreme Court invalidated a state law banning protected class recognition based upon homosexuality, struck down sodomy laws nationwide, struck down Section 3 of the Defense of Marriage Act, and made same- sex marriage legal nationwide."
"Adoption of children by same-sex married couples is legal nationwide since June 2015 following the Supreme Court's decision in Obergefell v. Hodges."
When you can't get the votes, plead your case in front of a socially liberal court.
I'll agree with you when nature files a suit in court and testifies,and wins.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
