International News
See other International News Articles
Title: Germany’s Typhoon problem: Only four fighters can be made combat ready [also tanks, ships, subs, copters]
Source:
ArsTechnica
URL Source: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy ... at-ready/?comments=1&start=120
Published: May 15, 2018
Author: Sean Gallagher
Post Date: 2018-05-16 02:50:28 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 10530
Comments: 81
If you thought the US Department of Defense's procurement adventures with the F-35 and other big-budget weapons systems are bad, you might want to check out what's going on in Europe, where defense procurement battles have left most of the German Luftwaffe grounded for lack of parts. Last week, at the annual Charlemagne Prize ceremony in Aachen, Germany—in which French President Emmanuel Macron was recognized for his efforts on behalf of European unity—German Prime Minister Angela Merkel pronounced that Europe could no longer depend on the United States for its protection. "Europe has to take its destiny into its own hands," Merkel said. "That is the task of the future." Merkel has given this message before. But if Europe is to take its destiny into its own hands any time soon, Germany has a lot of work to do—the Bundeswehr, Germany's defense ministry, is suffering from multiple readiness crises in a culmination of years of cost-shaving and poor management decisions. And the latest symptom to emerge of that crisis is the dwindling number of actually functional fighter jets that the Luftwaffe, Germany's air force, can actually call combat ready. For the Eurofighter Typhoon, Germany's main fighter aircraft, that number is four—out of a total of 128. According to a report in Der Spiegel, the Bundeswehr has claimed in an official report to the Bundestag (Germany's legislature) that 39 Typhoon fighters were designated as ready for missions last year. But that report named any aircraft that was capable of flying as being "ready." In fact, only 10 aircraft currently have all their systems functioning, because of a problem that has plagued the defensive aid subsystem (DASS) of Germany's version of the Typhoon. One component of the DASS is a wing pod that contains the aircraft's electronic countermeasures (ECM) equipment—its gear for jamming the radar of incoming missiles—and parts of the aircraft's electronic support measure systems, which include radar lock warning and target identification. During the development of the Typhoon, Germany decided to break off from the Eurofighter consortium and fund the development of a domestically built DASS by Daimler Aerospace (DASA). Eventually Germany re-entered the fold, and DASA was absorbed into the European defense conglomerate EADS. But the money-saving maneuvering has continued, as the Bundestag strove to reduce stock in repair parts and opt for "just-in-time" ordering. Unfortunately, the DASS pods on Germany's Typhoons have been failing because of coolant leaks. And the supplier for the part needed to repair the leak is no longer in business. As the rest of Eurofighters' customers are upgrading their DASS systems to the Praetorian DASS from the Italian defense company Leonardo, the factory for the part was sold—and Germany, which did not opt for the upgrade, is now left without a supplier. Cost-cutting procurement strategies have caused problems elsewhere over the past year for the Bundeswehr: The only saving grace for the Bundeswehr is that with the wind-down of NATO support in Afghanistan, there's no immediate combat mission for the German military. And as Der Spiegel's Matthias Gebauer was told by a Bundeswehr source, "We can say with a good conscience that large parts of the [German armed forces] are mission ready, because there is currently no mission."
Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest
Comments (1-13) not displayed.
.
.
.
#14. To: Tooconservative (#12)
It's completely true. Isolationism is why we had to lose three quarters of a million American lives and half of Europe in World War II. We pretended that we are not our brother's keeper. We were as wrong as Cain on that score. The Paleo-Conservative wants to retreat into isolation again. Failed the first time. Would fail again, if we ever were foolish enough to go that way. But we're not. FDR, Truman, Ike, JFK, LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, W, Obama and Trump were all very different men, with very different concepts of governance, but they ALL agreed that America needs to first and foremost a military superpower, very present in the world, containing evil and protecting the free. Paleo-Conservatives like you don't agree with Realists like me on this subject at all.
Ike sensibly opposed any expansion of NATO and wanted to withdraw from Europe entirely.
He didn't think that with strong enough conviction to actually DO it, because he saw full well what would happen if we withdrew from Europe. Sure, it would be great if we could just come back home and save all of that money. I've thought that myself for years, and Ike was coming from most of a lifetime in which the American desire was very much to not be "over there". We were dragged into World War II against our will. Remember, please, the Russia tried to join NATO in 1954, to be part of the efforts to preserve the peace in Europe. Instead, we admitted West Germany, in 1955, which promptly triggered Russia to form the Warsaw Pact. All of this happened under Eisenhower. So sure, "expansion" of NATO to include the USSR was nixed by Ike, but it was Ike who added West Germany to the mix, with the Warsaw Pact forming in reaction. Ike may have wanted to be a Paleo-Conservative, but he wasn't stupid so he didn't ultimately act on those isolationist instincts. He did what was necessary, which was to keep the USA widely engaged in the world. Yes, he bemoaned the dangers of the "military-industrial complex", and he was certainly correct about some of those dangers. The alternative was letting the Communists sweep most of the world, and eventually become dominant politically in America. Should we have? Paleos would assert that was not really the choice, but I think they are naive about that and wrong.
I wouldn't cut it all. However, the rising debt crisis makes that more and more inevitable and painful. I think we should focus on naval and air power and we should mostly move our forces out of Europe. If they don't want to defend it, why should we? And they can rely on France and Britain to nuke Russia if Vlad conquers the Baltics and the eastern half of Ukraine on some sunny afternoon, right?
You see, French and Germans already paid their dues in 1812 and 1941 on the Eastern Front, they remember it well and painfully. It is time for the others to go there.
I nominate the Poles.
I think we should focus on naval and air power and we should mostly move our forces out of Europe. If they don't want to defend it, why should we? And they can rely on France and Britain to nuke Russia if Vlad conquers the Baltics and the eastern half of Ukraine on some sunny afternoon, right? Sure. To stop the debt crisis, simply raise the taxes on the rich so that they pay the same proportion of their gross wealth that the middle class do. That's it. That's all. The middle class in America does not collapse under its tax burden. The rich would not either. But the rich don't pay taxes anywhere near what the middle class do, as a proportion of their wealth. They should. Most of the wealth of the middle class is held in their homes, cars, boats, some planes. And all of that is taxes annually. Also, the transfer of such things is taxed, and the energy to power those things is taxed. The middle class are taxed four times on their income: three federal taxes (social security, medicare, income) and by their states. Most of their wealth goes into housing. The very rich hold most of their property as securities, which are not taxed. Houses, cars and boats are taxed, but securities are not. Securities are only taxed when they give off dividends (which are taxed by one federal tax, at a much lower rate than the middle class income taxes), or when they are sold. Loans are not taxed, and the rich use "the trick" of pledging securities as collateral to get loans, which is untaxed income, while keeping ownership. And if they reinvest the loans in more securities, they deduct the interest on the loan from their income. And then of course there are the private "charitable" foundations, that allow wealth to pass from generation to generation untaxed, subject only to extremely modest Potemkin-village style paperwork oversight. If the tax system were restructured to tax the wealthy the same percentage of their overall wealth that the middle class pay every year, we would run a significant budget surplus at current rates of expenditure and be able to pay off the national debt within a reasonable number of years. Of course, we COULD also decide to take much longer to pay down the national debt, adjust the middle class taxation downwards and the taxes of the wealthy upwards to meet.
I nominate the Chinese and the Altaic Turkics.
Most of the hole in the federal budget is due to the cap on SS taxes. It should be at least 10 times higher than it is or perhaps just unlimited. You could argue for this better when inheritance taxes were insanely high but that hasn't been the case for decades. You should browse through that Atlantic piece I put up. Very long but it has the appeal of being a comprehensive picture. And his argument is that the tycoons are only the targets of the Bernie bros and that the real inequality of wealth and use of lobbyists, education, home ownership accrue to people who are not the middle class but like to pretend they are. The top 10% has benefited far more overall than the tycoons have with their .1% of all wealth. I smiled when I noticed that fencing was mentioned. : )
I know, but spare them please. But they did it already TWICE, together with Napoleon in 1812. And on their own in 1612. It is turn for you. 1812 1611/1612 BTW, British ingrates allied with Ruskies in 1812/1814 and did this in Washington DC:
Europe's history is too depressing to review. And all that crappy artwork you EUros keep around just reminds you of it all.
The last is American (Washington DC)
Let's be fair,here. The sad,sad truth is that there are damn few genetic Germans left. Most bled out in WW-1 or WW-2,leaving their women to be impregnated by Slavs,French,English,and American occupation forces. Now they are even importing hordes of Muslims to take over,thinking they will do the menial work and pay the taxes to allow them to retire in comfort. It's enough to make you think most post-WW-1 and WW-2 German women were impregnated by Frenchmen.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
BINGO! And it is the political power that provides the defense contract that provide the "Benjamins" that keep the uber wealthy in bodyguards and villas. It's ALWAYS about the money. ALWAYS.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Right back atcha. It's ALL true to one degree or another. You need to get over the thinking that tells you that anything you don't like is untrue. It just ain't so. You also need to come to understand that NOTHING is either all good or all bad. There is good and bad in everything. The secret is to find the "Sweet spot" where the bad from YOUR POV is outweighed by the good from YOUR POV. Yeah,sometimes you really have to look hard to find it. Nobody but lairs or fools ever said life would be easy.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
The last and only time when racial purity was preached in Poland was under German occupation.
The thing is the typical European never sees our Naval or Air Power,and when they do see it,it just doesn't register as being foreign because their native nations use our designs. They DO see and register military bases and the soldiers and airmen wandering around in their towns when off-duty,though. Even if it is at a sub-conscious level to most of them,it has an impact.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
WRONG! It is time for NO ONE to go there,and if it DOES have to be someone,it should be the locals that do the most fighting and dying. We ain't your daddy,bubba!
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Yes,but at a MUCH lower rate if owned by a trust fund or corporation. They are even used to depreciate the taxable base of corporate assets.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
There is no such thing as racial purity in reality. Maybe there was in China when it was a sealed off police state,but that's about it. However,there IS such a thing as CULTURAL purity. Don't believe it's important or doesn't exist? Go to your local Mosque and inquire within.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Nazis were also talking about cultural purity. They even divided science of physics into German and Jewish. Problems that those who are so obsessed about purity, know little about genetics or physics. Perhaps they are mongrels? ;)
So what? They even divided science of physics into German and Jewish. While conveniently ignoring the FACT that many Germans were also Jewish.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Yes. There should be no cap on Social Security taxes. They are a completely regressive tax on income alone. The ideal tax code would be this: Scrap the social security tax completely, and scrap the Medicare tax, and scrap the AMT, and scrap the capital gains tax, and scrap the inheritance tax, scrap the dividends tax. These are all alternative forms of the income tax. Social Security is a pure wage tax. So is the Medicare tax. The AMT is another form of income tax. Capital gains are simply another form of income. The dead should not pay taxes on their estates. The living who get the money should pay taxes on what they get from the dead, because that's INCOME, and it should be taxed like any other income. Ditto for gifts. Gifts are income, and they should be taxable to the recipient, not the giver. The forgiveness of debt is INCOME to the recipient, and is already taxed as such. That should not change. Roll all of those things and make a graduated, progressive income tax, without specific deductions - no mortgage deductions, no state tax deductions, no interest deductions. Businesses are permitted to deduct the costs of operating from their taxes. Individuals should, likewise, be able to deduct the cost of living from theirs. We already have this in the form of standard deductions and personal exemptions. Individuals should get the deductions and exemptions on a per-capita basis, and it should be calibrated to do for individuals exactly the same thing that business deductions do for businesses. So, sweep away the deductions and the exceptions, eliminate multiple forms of taxation, and have ONE income tax that captures all forms of income. Corporation taxes are a special case. That leaves property taxes and sales taxes. All property should be taxed at a uniform low rate. Some property, such as houses, cars, planes, boats, securities and bank accounts are easily tracked and easily valued and taxed. And should be. Houses are taxed at about 1.75% nationwide. So, then, should all securities portfolios. If that rate is too high, then lower the property tax across the board to, say 1%. This is, effectively, a gross wealth tax because it taxes the value of most forms of property. Certain forms of wealth are harder to trace: jewelry, gold bullion, artwork. But they're not all THAT hard to trace, because people who have such things insure them. The value of property insurance should be taxed at the same rate as property (though that which is already covered should not be taxed twice). There should be an exemption for personalty - clothes, books, basic furniture - so that accounting for these things don't drive us mad. Finally, sales. If we are going to tax sales at all, then the tax should be consistent. We should not have all sorts of exceptions and exemptions. People should not be manipulated by the tax code. Right now, we do not tax the sales of securities, which are the largest transactions in our economy. If we're going to tax sales at all, we should tax those. If we tax the sales of securities at 1%, that will generate huge amounts of revenue, such that we can reduce the sales taxes of everything else down from the current 5 or 6 or 7% down to the 1% or so. The one exception to the standard sales taxes should be on those particular substances that cause such tremendous health nightmares: tobacco, alcohol and, where legal, drugs. There. That is a very clean system - all income of whatever sort: one tax. All property: one tax. All transactions: one tax. The corporations tax is a special case we can explore further, if you're interested. And the question of who is tax exempt is also of interest. Notably: should charities or churches be tax exempt? Should there be such a thing as "tax free municipal bonds"? Should private charities be tax exempt? Should there be tax deductions for charitable giving? Note that what goes away with all of this are all of the tax credit schemes, all of the "incentive" schemes. A dollar is a dollar, and you pay the tax rate on that dollar. Dollars inherited, earned as wages, earned as dividends, won in the lottery, earned as capital gains on sale - they're all taxed the same. Should the code be progressive? That's a political choice. The simplest would be no progressivity - everybody pays, say, 15%, but a per capita standard deduction of "x". Sales tax is low, but covers the whole economy. Our economy is $19 trillion. The sales tax would bring in $190 billion a year at 1%. $380 billion a year at 2%. $1.12 billion at 3% Property tax is low but universal. Note that property tax on homes is not a NET tax but a gross tax. So it should be on all property. Total gross private wealth per capita in the US in 2017 was $120 trillion. Giving everybody a $40,000 personal wealth exemption (for clothes, books, furniture), would mean $348,585 of taxable wealth per person. 1% tax would bring in $1.2 trillion. 2% tax would bring in $2.4 trillion So, if we set the sales tax at 3% and the property tax at 2%, we're bringing in $3.52 trillion Total federal, state and local expenditures in 2018 will be $7.1 trillion, so we need to bring in $3.48 trillion more in income tax (we are disregarding the corporation tax) to get to the $7.1 trillion current expenditures so that our budget is balanced (which would mean we gradually pay off debt. US GDP is about $19 trillion. So, we need 49% of it - a 49% tax - to cover those expenses. Of course, that tax could be partially covered by corporations and churches and other organizations. That is certainly painful. Defense spending is only 12% of that total (Health, at 22%, followed by Pensions, at 19%, then Education, at 15%, are the three larger portions. Truth is, if we cut defense to zero, we'd STILL have to have high taxes to get out of our hole. And no, if we slash taxes to the bone, we're not going to get the sort of GDP growth that will let us get out from the accelerating debt curve due to increasing income payments. Simply put: we have to tax more of the wealth of the wealthy. We ALREADY tax the wealth of the middle class to a very great extent. Consider my case. I pay 14.6% of my gross wealth each year in taxes. Based on what is known of him, Bill Gates pays less than 5%. For Bill Gates to be taxed the same as me, his taxes should triple. And for us to not end up in a national debt crisis, both he and I, and everybody else, have to pay more than we're already paying.
Not exactly. They rejected relativity theory for that reason and were sympathetic to quantum mechanics. But to comfort you, I also prefer quantum mechanics.
We have a checkered military record, but we're really, REALLY good at THAT.
Here is how Germans were forming the image in Polish minds of coming Red Army soldiers. Still persists.
Find some German propaganda about the French.
Yes, but to be fair, as a member of the American occupation forces, I must admit it was not sad at all. We saw our duty to the women of Germany, and did it, --- happily... And, -- we were much better at it than the rest, especially the french..
That's French fascist propaganda. I'm asking for German propaganda that is aimed at motivating the Germans to fight the French. I like that the 1941 Vichy poster names de Gaulle, alongside of "The Jew", "The Lie" and "Free-Masonry" as the enemy of the new French people who want these antagonists to "Leave us be!" as they plant their new seedling fascist state. Awwww. De Gaulle grated on everybody's nerves - his commanders before the war, the Germans, the Vichy French, the British, the Americans, the Soviets, the French Right, the French Left, the French students - he was an immensely irritating man, because he had a habit of winning the day and not letting anybody get anything over on him and his idea of "Deep France" - "la France profonde". Even his symbology - the Cross of Lorraine, which was, of course, the homeland of Joan of Arc and all that meant against, well, everybody who wasn't French, including the French on the wrong side! Richard Nixon's assessment of de Gaulle: "He was stubborn, wilfull, supremely self-confident, a man of enormous ego and yet at the same time enormous selflessness: He was demanding not for himself but for France. He lived simply but dreamed grandly. He acted a part, playing a role he created in a way that fit only one actor. Even more he fashioned himself so he could play it. He created de Gaulle, the public person, to play the role of de Gaulle, the personification of France." So, find me some German anti-French propaganda. It's a tough thing to you, you'll find. The Germans, like the English and the Dutch, and the Americans have always been immensely conflicted about France. The Germans have always though the best life "Wie die Lieber Gott im Frankreich" - to live like God in France. My take on it: France is what happens when Ireland wins the lottery. The French are Celts - France is a giant Ireland = and the Celtic character is both jovial and combative, at the same time. The Irish and Scots were always poor, but France is insanely rich land - the world's best garden - and so the French have always been well fed, well-drunk, oversexed, and luxurious. And they've had the money to lavish on things they like, and they're all individualistic, so they like so many things. I'm feeling Gaullish today. Some quotes: "Let us be firm, pure and faithful; at the end of our sorrow, there is the greatest glory of the world, that of the men who did not give in." Said in July, 1944, to refuse to open the windows to acknowledge the crowd celebrating the re-establishment of the French Republic: "It is unnecessary, for the Republic has never ceased to exist. I was the Republic." "Politics, when it is an art and a service, not an exploitation, is about acting for an ideal through realities." "No policy is worth anything outside of reality." "Of course one can jump up and down yelling Europe! Europe! Europe! But it amounts to nothing and it means nothing." "Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first." "France was built with swords. The fleur-de-lis, symbol of national unity, is only the image of a spear with three pikes." "The desire of privilege and the taste of equality are the dominant and contradictory passions of the French of all times." "Within ten years, we shall have the means to kill 80 million Russians. I truly believe that one does not light-heartedly attack people who are able to kill 80 million Russians, even if one can kill 800 million French, that is if there were 800 million French." "I am not ill. But do not worry, one day, I will certainly die." "Why do you think that at 67 I would start a career as a dictator?" "How can you govern a country which has two hundred and forty-six varieties of cheese?"
He sure didn't show it during the Hungarian uprising. --- He had the 503rd on full alert for 3 days, on the tarmac at Munich, --- ready to go into Budapest.
To be fair to them, they were just arrogant and unprepared. The Germans laughed at them. They flew over or marched around the Maginot line. They never saw it coming.
“If I regard de Gaulle as a great man? He is selfish, he is arrogant, he believes he is the center of the world. He . . . You are quite right. He is a great man." - Winston Churchill
They knew it was coming. Almost a year passed between Poland and the attack on France..
Almost a year passed between Poland and the attack on France.. All i am saying is that they never expected the Germans to prevail. They didn't know they were unprotected for what was to happen.
I don't disagree. The tax structure is chock full of dodges and handouts. It is not something that can be done for the non-billionaires. The picture of the oncoming permanent debt crisis is not cheerful. What is needed is an effort to cut administrative costs across the federal and state governments. Salaries of federal employees should more closely match comparable jobs in the private sector. These problems could be solved but they have unpleasant consequences that the pols don't like.
I tried. I could not find any. Perhaps you will be more lucky. One Polish political science and philosophy professor (that I know personally), claims that France is the perfect state. No matter who would win the WWII, French would be on the winning side ;) It takes a lot of wit! And Paris survived intact not like Warsaw. He wants Poles to be more prudent.
It still persists for damn good reasons.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Hungary was a defeated and occupied ally of Third Reich. They were very brave, tougher than Germans, a tiny country lost hundreds of thousands of soldiers on the Eastern Front. The most at Stalingrad. In 1950s it was not possible to side with them. The memory of war was too fresh.
Kindred souls. I love one Churchill's saying "Don't interrupt me, when I interrupt you". I use it sometimes.
Yes, but to be fair, as a member of the American occupation forces, I must admit it was not sad at all. We saw our duty to the women of Germany, and did it, --- happily... And, -- we were much better at it than the rest, especially the french.. One of my mother's cousins married a homeless German woman who was the last surviving member of her family while he was a MP with the occupation forces in Berlin right after WW-2. She was not only German,but was also a Jew who had nothing. Then sometime in the 60's the land and other property her family owned that had been seized first by the Germans and later by the Allied Forces were returned to her as the only heir,and she was worth millions. They spent the rest of their lives living in motels and following the horse races. They even owned race horses. She sold it all because she never wanted to set foot in Germany again or to be reminded of what she had lost. One other German that I knew and was friends with was a member of the Hitler Youth. His father,uncles,and all male members of his family had been German military officers for generations. After his father and all his other male relatives were killed in Russia his mother enrolled him in the Hitler Youth to protect him from being drafted. The Nazi's were drafting children by that time and sending their out to the front lines to fight,but they weren't willing to waste their future officer cadre,so Hitler Youth members got to stay at home and in school. He told me he remembers standing along the street and giving Hitler the Nazi salute as he passed by in parades. His mother and the remainder of his family were killed in the allied bombing raids at the end of the war,so he came to the US as a Lodge Act immigrant. He enlisted in the army as a Private,and retired as a Special Forces Major in the 70's. When he enlisted in the US Army he enlisted as a German Language interpreter with the condition that he be sent to Germany. When he got there he looked up his next door neighbor girlfriend,who was also the sole surviving member of HER family,and married her. They were still married and she was still absolutely stunning looking when I had dinner with them in Raleigh in the early 80's. They had a ton of kids and grandchildren visiting at the time and were still playful with one another. I am thinking he might be one of the luckiest men I have ever met,given how his life started out.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Comments (55 - 81) not displayed.
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestHooey. None of that is true.
#15. To: Vicomte13 (#14)
FDR, Truman, Ike, JFK, LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, W, Obama and Trump were all very different men, with very different concepts of governance, but they ALL agreed that America needs to first and foremost a military superpower, very present in the world, containing evil and protecting the free.
#16. To: Tooconservative (#15)
Ike sensibly opposed any expansion of NATO and wanted to withdraw from Europe entirely.
#17. To: Vicomte13 (#16)
Sure, it would be great if we could just come back home and save all of that money. I've thought that myself for years, and Ike was coming from most of a lifetime in which the American desire was very much to not be "over there". We were dragged into World War II against our will.
#18. To: Tooconservative, Vicomte13 (#8)
Let them deal with Russia on their own.
#19. To: A Pole (#18)
It is time for the others to go there.
#20. To: Tooconservative (#17)
I wouldn't cut it all. However, the rising debt crisis makes that more and more inevitable and painful.
#21. To: Tooconservative (#19)
I nominate the Poles.
#22. To: Vicomte13 (#20)
The very rich hold most of their property as securities, which are not taxed. Houses, cars and boats are taxed, but securities are not.
#23. To: Tooconservative (#19)
(Edited)
I nominate the Poles.
#24. To: A Pole (#23)
#25. To: Tooconservative (#24)
Europe's history is too depressing to review. And all that crappy artwork you EUros
#26. To: Tooconservative (#8)
And to complete this farce, the Germans -- who citizens do not intend to fight for any other NATO countries -
#27. To: Vicomte13 (#9)
(Edited)
We WANT to be there because of the political power it gives us, and because of the defense contracts that flow from it. THAT is the game.
#28. To: Tooconservative (#12)
Hooey. None of that is true.
#29. To: sneakypete (#26)
(Edited)
The sad,sad truth is that there are damn few genetic Germans left. Most bled out in WW-1 or WW-2
#30. To: Tooconservative (#17)
I think we should focus on naval and air power and we should mostly move our forces out of Europe. If they don't want to defend it, why should we?
#31. To: A Pole (#18)
You see, French and Germans already paid their dues in 1812 and 1941 on the Eastern Front, they remember it well and painfully. It is time for the others to go there.
#32. To: Vicomte13 (#20)
Houses, cars and boats are taxed, but securities are not.
#33. To: A Pole (#29)
The last and only time when racial purity was preached in Poland was under German occupation.
#34. To: sneakypete (#33)
(Edited)
However,there IS such a thing as CULTURAL purity. Don't believe it's important or doesn't exist?
#35. To: A Pole (#34)
Nazis were also talking about cultural purity.
#36. To: Tooconservative (#22)
Most of the hole in the federal budget is due to the cap on SS taxes. It should be at least 10 times higher than it is or perhaps just unlimited.
#37. To: sneakypete (#35)
(Edited)
While conveniently ignoring the FACT that many Germans were also Jewish.
#38. To: sneakypete (#26)
It's enough to make you think most post-WW-1 and WW-2 German women were impregnated by Frenchmen.
#39. To: Vicomte13, sneakypete (#38)
We have a checkered military record, but we're really, REALLY good at THAT.
#40. To: A Pole (#39)
#41. To: Vicomte13 (#40)
(Edited)
Find some German propaganda about the French.
#42. To: sneakypete, Y'ALL (#26)
Let's be fair,here. The sad,sad truth is that there are damn few genetic Germans left. Most bled out in WW-1 or WW-2,leaving their women to be impregnated by Slavs,French,English,and American occupation forces.
#43. To: A Pole (#41)
#44. To: Tooconservative (#15)
Ike sensibly opposed any expansion of NATO and wanted to withdraw from Europe entirely.
#45. To: tpaine (#42)
especially the french.
#46. To: A Pole (#39)
#47. To: no gnu taxes (#45)
They never saw it coming.
#48. To: tpaine (#47)
They knew it was coming.
#49. To: Vicomte13 (#36)
#50. To: Vicomte13 (#43)
(Edited)
I'm asking for German propaganda that is aimed at motivating the Germans to fight the French.
#51. To: A Pole (#39)
Here is how Germans were forming the image in Polish minds of coming Red Army soldiers. Still persists.
#52. To: tpaine (#44)
He sure didn't show it during the Hungarian uprising. --- He had the 503rd on full alert for 3 days, on the tarmac at Munich, --- ready to go into Budapest.
#53. To: Vicomte13 (#46)
“If I regard de Gaulle as a great man? He is selfish, he is arrogant, he believes he is the center of the world. He . . . You are quite right. He is a great man." - Winston Churchill
#54. To: tpaine (#42)
Let's be fair,here. The sad,sad truth is that there are damn few genetic Germans left. Most bled out in WW-1 or WW-2,leaving their women to be impregnated by Slavs,French,English,and American occupation forces.
.
.
.
[Home] [Headlines] [Latest Articles] [Latest Comments] [Post] [Mail] [Sign-in] [Setup] [Help] [Register]