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Title: New York Daily News hits new low with disgusting Jerusalem embassy opening cover
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URL Source: https://www.americanthinker.com/blo ... lem_embassy_opening_cover.html
Published: May 15, 2018
Author: Monica Showalter
Post Date: 2018-05-15 09:29:55 by no gnu taxes
Keywords: None
Views: 221
Comments: 45

An opinionated tabloid cover can be effective, but only if the point made is so obvious that an entire audience can see and relate to it. It also helps if it is humorous and has a witty headline. What it's not is garbage that looks as though it comes straight from fake news, or compares apples to oranges in the name of promoting the propaganda of some unhappy terrorist group.

With the Jerusalem embassy opening, the Daily News has ventured well into the second category in its cover and is completely disgusting. President Trump's favorite daughter, Ivanka Trump Kushner, who is an Orthodox Jewish convert, was sent to Jerusalem for the U.S. embassy opening. Rather than focus on the historic occasion, which is all about the U.S. and its effort to honor its top ally in the Middle East, it drags in some utterly unrelated issue, way out in a hellhole like Gaza, where a bunch of Islamist maniacs linked to the terror group Hamas apparently threw Molotov cocktails and assorted bombs and got several dozen of their numbers killed, apparently because they were aggressive and because they used their own women and children as human shields. It was the using and expending of live humans for propaganda purposes to get out some sort of sob story about their desire to destroy Israel and make us all sympathetic. Maybe they were unhappy about the embassy or something, or trying to upstage the happy occasion of the U.S. embassy opening with more TV images of themselves screaming and contorting themselves and looking unkempt. One can assume they want something – perhaps the annihilation of the Jewish state – but nobody knows. And since they do this all the time, nobody except Trump-hating leftists cares, either.

The bottom line is that they staged some sort of predictable-as-daylight killing of themselves, and somehow that's supposed to be connected to Ivanka Trump, who was there for the ribbon-cutting of the far more important U.S. embassy opening. Ivanka, as it happened, was a splendid representative.

But because these two unrelated events happened in the same time period, the Daily News decided to headline its cover with an absolutely nasty, disgusting headline calling Ivanka Trump a ghoul, as if Ivanka had anything, anything at all, to do with terrorists staging some spectacle intended to make us coo over them.

Well, we aren't. We don't want to hear about the maniacs. We don't believe in giving publicity to publicity hounds, and we don't want to hear about their self-barbarism, either. We wanted to see Ivanka, and the Daily News went to the bathroom all over her picture, trying to pin something on her that she had nothing to do with, all out of an appalling spitefulness against President Trump.

Maybe a good reader response will shake them out of the pit they seem to have dug for themselves, because I sure won't.

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#1. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

Palestinians are the modern-day equivalent of the Apache.

In the end, they must submit, and their culture must die, because for it to live the advance of civilization where they live must stop.

Well, it isn't going to stop. And the Apache were never going to change or stop fighting. In the great scheme of things, they may have had some sort of moral rectitude in fighting for their homeland, but some battles are hopeless, and some fights simply cannot be won.

That was true of the Apache, and it is true of the Palestinians.

Thing is, if the Palestinians were Christians, they already submitted, long ago. They live in Israel, some of them, or they decided they didn't want to be second-class citizens in a Jewish state and emigrated en masse to America, where they took over the convenience store industry all over the Midwest.

It wasn't "fair" they had to leave, but they and their families have brighter futures in the West.

Muslims, however, are motivated by a hard-wired, aggressive, violent and evil religion. They will not bend, they will not compromise, and they do not stop. Like Nazis. Or Japanese kamikazes. Or Stalinist Communists. Fanatics for an evil cause. They can't be persuaded. They have to be resisted. And because they reply to resistance with violence, they have to be killed. Like the Apache.

It is the nature of the Muslim fanatic that, pressed to the wall by the reality of defeat, they "go postal".

I don't like to see any kids killed. But the fact is that the Muslims took their kids there to be killed. And if the Muslims are going to kill people until they get there way, or are killed themselves, then we have to get on with the grim business of walling them off and letting them kill themselves - and killing them to stop them from attacking.

Was it preventable? Sure. But it would require a change of their religious beliefs. And that is a no go. So the bloodshed has to continue, and they have to keep dying. Maybe for centuries. Maybe forever.

The only possible peace is their unconditional surrender and acceptance that they will never get the land back, not ever, and the realization that Allah will never, ever perform a miracle to give them the victory. God is set against them because of the way they are, and he is never going to let them win.

They don't believe it now. After 5 more generations of dying, perhaps some will see the light.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-15   10:11:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

and got several dozen of their numbers killed, apparently because they were aggressive and because they used their own women and children as human shields.

Because they were starving and unemployed. Because Israel has been blockading Gaza since they left 13 years ago. So Israel can point to the Palestinians in Gaza and say, "See? They're animals. They can't take care of themselves."

misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-15   10:12:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

"Palestinians are the modern-day equivalent of the Apache. And the Apache were never going to change or stop fighting."

I agree. But they did stop fighting when they were given their own land to live life as they wanted.

The British realized this in the 40's when they tasked the UN with dividing up the British Mandate into two sections -- one for the Palestinians and one for the Jews.

The Jews got their state but never allowed the Palestinians to get theirs. Since 1948, Israel has been taking more and more of the land designated for the State of Palestine. Is it any wonder the Palestinians throw rocks and burn tires in protest?

misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-15   10:20:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

"One can assume they want something – perhaps the annihilation of the Jewish state – but nobody knows."

WTF do you mean, "nobody knows"? They want their own state. They've wanted that since 1948. UN 181 gave them land, just as UN 181 gave land to Israel.

Get Israel the fuck out of Palestinian land and they'll stop throwing rocks.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-15   10:26:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: misterwhite (#3)

The Jews got their state but never allowed the Palestinians to get theirs.

This myth has been shown to you many times. The Arabs and those mongrel Arabs living in the region of Palestine immediately started attacking the Jews. The Jews kicked their ass, as they always do. All they want is the elimination of the Jews. Period. Nothing else will satisfy them.

Since 1948, Israel has been taking more and more of the land designated for the State of Palestine.

Yeah, because the Arabs started wars with the Jews and lost. This has already been pointed out to you, but you obviously don't care.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2018-05-15   10:29:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: no gnu taxes (#5)

Yeah, because the Arabs started wars with the Jews and lost. This has already been pointed out to you, but you obviously don't care.

Taking land and transferring civilians to it is a violation of the Geneva Convention. That's not a myth.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-15   10:45:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

So many claims about Israel being an "ally", but in cold terms, they offer nothing of value to the USA. Nothing economic, nothing strategic. Strategically, Israel is only a liability to the USA. If it didn't exist, I could only imagine our relationship with all of the other various countries there would be much better. And 911 probably wouldn't have happened either (assuming the official narrative there).

The USA is expending massive resources to keep a tiny country there afloat in a massive sea of Muslims that don't want them there. If Germany was the country that did them so much harm, then Jews should have been given a region from Germany to be their homeland. Based on their current holocaust denial laws, it seems German's would not be protesting Jews like Muslims are.

Whatever the fault of Germans against Jews in WWII, the Muslims had nothing to do with that. But whatever their shortcomings are, and they have them, Muslims had no say in being given Israel for a neighbor.

I guess I'm kinda sick of the whole mess.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-05-15   11:36:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: misterwhite, no gnu taxes (#6) (Edited)

Taking land and transferring civilians to it is a violation of the Geneva Convention. That's not a myth.

Perhaps you'd like to inform our ally Turkey, a signatory to the Geneva conventions, that their occupation of northern Cyprus and taking their land to distribute to Turkish settlers is also illegal.

Maybe you'd like to also convey to Iran that their recruitment of Shi'a fighters in Af/Pak to fight in Syria with the promise that they would be granted citizenship and a free plot of land in Syria is also illegal.

How about Bosnia and Kosovo? Want to talk about those?

The Israel-haters never want to talk about all these other instances.

In practice, it seems they don't really object to these things at all as long as we're not talking about Joos in Israel. Kind of like there's a certain agenda they're pursuing.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-15   11:38:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: no gnu taxes (#5)

The Arabs and those mongrel Arabs living in the region of Palestine 

You relish kicking people who are down and under. Typical coward.

A Pole  posted on  2018-05-15   11:44:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Tooconservative (#8)

Perhaps you'd like to inform our ally Turkey, a signatory to the Geneva conventions ... Iran that their recruitment of Shi'a fighters in Af/Pak to fight in Syria ... How about Bosnia and Kosovo?

I'm not going to play Risk with you and examine the actions of every international conflict. Start a different thread.

The UN has taken action and passed numerous Resolutions demanding that Israel stop stealing land and transferring civilians.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-15   12:23:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: no gnu taxes (#0) (Edited)

It took this long to link the cover in question? Sheesh. She sure is a lot prettier than Odumbass's goofy-looking spawn. Or Clinton's. Or Carter's. See a pattern?
I've got no problem with fewer Mooslums (pigpiss be upon them) - it's time for Allah the Pigraper to die.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2018-05-15   12:26:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: misterwhite (#4)

Get Israel the fuck out of Palestinian land and they'll stop throwing rocks.

Bullshit. Jerusalem has belonged to the Jews for 2,000 years, while the bullshit Mooslum (pigpiss be upon them) deathcult was cooked up by that vicious child molester MoHamHead (pigpiss be upon him, too) around 800, by stealing passages from the Bible and twisting them.

Mooslums can go live in any number of fucked-up Mooslum shitholes. They can go there, or just be pushed into the sea.

I prefer the latter solution, the sea will eventually dissolve the stench of deathcultists. Enough of these vile, defective assholes; they had their chance to live in a civilized manner.

It's time for Allah the Pigraper to die.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2018-05-15   12:31:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: misterwhite (#6)

Taking land and transferring civilians to it is a violation of the Geneva Convention. That's not a myth.

Yes. Well, it's a fait accompli, and the land cannot be given back now. So let's be practical and ship the Palestinians out in parcels to countries all across the Arab world, and provide their host nations and they themselves with sufficient funds to be able to establish themselves in comfortable middle class lives wherever they end up. Buy them out - eminent domain style - ship them out - Indian Reservation style - and settle the issue by clearing them off the land. Israel gets the rest of it, and the Palestinians start new lives all across Dar es Islaam. It's cheaper for everybody in the long run, and costs a lot of less in terms of blood and lives.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-15   12:32:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Pinguinite (#7)

So many claims about Israel being an "ally", but in cold terms, they offer nothing of value to the USA. Nothing economic, nothing strategic.

Then you're not paying attention; Israeli technology, weapons development, drug research and other aspects are world-class.

Mooslums (pigpiss be upon them) are the useless vermin. What nations have the Moos (PBUT) ever improved by infesting them?

Hank Rearden  posted on  2018-05-15   12:33:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Hank Rearden (#12)

Jerusalem has belonged to the Jews for 2,000 years

Oh, here we fucking go again.

"They can go there, or just be pushed into the sea."

Or we can load them into boxcars and put them in concentration camps.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-15   12:42:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Vicomte13 (#13)

Well, it's a fait accompli, and the land cannot be given back now.

Sure it can. Israel has been told since 1967 not to build settlements there. They did anyways with their eyes wide open.

"let's be practical and ship the Palestinians out in parcels to countries all across the Arab world"

All 6 million? Wouldn't it be more practical and cheaper to simply give them the land they were promised and let them move themselves?

misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-15   12:46:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Pinguinite (#7)

Good summary. I agree.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-15   12:48:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Hank Rearden (#14) (Edited)

Israeli technology, weapons development, drug research and other aspects are world-class.

Hell, I bet if we gave Haiti $100 billion over the years they'd have world- class technology, weapons development, drug research and other aspects.

With enough left over to give their citizens free college and health care. You're welcome, Israel.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-15   12:54:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: misterwhite (#17)

Good summary. I agree.

Sure you would. Birds of a feather who hate Jews together.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2018-05-15   12:55:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: misterwhite (#18)

You do know at least as much money is given to the Jew Hating States as is given to Israel.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2018-05-15   13:21:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: misterwhite (#18)

Hell, I bet if we gave Haiti $100 billion over the years they'd have world- class technology, weapons development, drug research and other aspects.

If that statement of yours was correct, wouldn't you want to do everything possible to preserve such an enormous investment?

Remember, the Moos (pigpiss be upon them) immediately destroyed $10 Million worth of greenhouses given to them for free by Jews.

Fuck 'em. Time for Allah the Pigraper to die so civilization may proceed in peace.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2018-05-15   13:31:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Hank Rearden (#12)

Jerusalem has belonged to the Jews for 2,000 years,

Jews inhabited Jerusalem a little more than 1000 years. From King David's sack of Jebusite Jerusalem to Bar Kokhba uprising. Big part of it it was under foreign rule, Assyrian, Babylonian, Persian and Greek. Jerusalem is more than 4 thousands years, possibly more than 5 thousand. Christians were majority for several hundreds years long after Muslim conquest.

A Pole  posted on  2018-05-15   13:36:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: no gnu taxes (#20)

You do know at least as much money is given to the Jew Hating States as is given to Israel.

You are a Jew hater! You try to paint them as bad people, as bad as you.

A Pole  posted on  2018-05-15   13:39:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Pinguinite (#7)

I guess I'm kinda sick of the whole mess.

We all are.

The solution is not found in ideology or in right and wrong moralizing. That just means more and more and more bloodshed and expense forever.

No, the solution is found in fierce pragmatism. This is an eminent domain situation. Rightly or wrongly, Israel is THERE, and strong, and the previous tenants are in the way, and have to go. There can be no peace, for any of us, while those people are there. They have been dispossessed, and that was wrong. Just as it was wrong for Americans to sweep the Indians away, for the Presbyterians to drive the Catholics out of Ulster, and for the developers to get the New Haven neighborhood where Kelo lived in the eponymous court case.

But it is done, and it cannot be undone.

Therefore, treat it as an eminent domain case. About 5 million people have been dispossessed by a state action. They live in the West Bank and Gaza It wasn't just, but that's not the issue. The issue is: how do we stop the bloodshed and the endless expense.

And the way we do that is to divvy up that 5 million people between the other 50 Muslim majority countries. 22 of them speak Arabic, so if resettlement is made to just those lands, the culture shock and difficulty of transferring people will be greatly reduced. Palestinian families are larger than most. With an average of 5 members per family, that 1 million family units that need to move.

To resettle them there, you have to provide an economic incentive to the various states of their destination, and to them as families to set themselves up there.

Looking at housing prices across North Africa, the Persian Gulf and Indonesia, and assuming that the "relocation package" would include family housing, we are speaking on the order of $200,000 per family.

So, to completely resettle all of the West Bank's and Gaza's Muslim Palestinians in Arab-speaking Muslim lands would cost the world about $200 billion.

Since 1948 we've given $135 billion to Israel. And we've given $80 billion to Egypt. That's just us. The Soviets poured money into Egypt (to help them fight Israel). We've also poured money into a bunch of other states, and into the Palestinians themselves - all because of this bleeding sore of an issue.

France, Britain, Germany and others have poured in billions. The oil Arabs have poured billions into the fight.

EVERYBDOY is sick of it, but we'll spend all that again, going forward, unless we fix the problem.

Ideology and right and wrong can't fix this. Pragmatism is required. Bite the bullet, relocate the Palestinians - by force if necessary - across the Arab-speaking Muslim world. Buy out their claim through eminent domain. Get them set up abroad in good housing and settled in jobs, lance the boil and get it done.

The whole world pays for it: the US, Europe, the oil Arabs, the UN - everybody pitches in, and we get it done, and there is peace.

That's how you really END the nonsense. Otherwise, we pay and pay and pay for the rest of our lives, and they bleed and bleed and bleed.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-15   13:48:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: misterwhite (#16)

Wouldn't it be more practical and cheaper to simply give them the land they were promised and let them move themselves?

No. That is militarily and politically impossible. Spreading them out across the Arab world, with generous resettlement subsidies from the whole world, is possible.

Getting it over is what is important. Ultimate justice is in the province of God, after we're dead.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-15   13:50:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: A Pole (#23)

Your comment makes no sense.

But for your enjoyment:

no gnu taxes  posted on  2018-05-15   14:09:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Vicomte13 (#24)

The solution is actually very simple. Israel owns a tiny sliver of territory. Let them keep that.

Problem over.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2018-05-15   14:19:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: no gnu taxes (#27)

The solution is actually very simple. Israel owns a tiny sliver of territory. Let them keep that.

Problem over.

No, it's not that simple.

There are 5 million other people, living in desperation and poverty, in the land the Israelis control. And the Israelis gained control over that land and those people as the result of wars with all of the neighbors.

There is a titanic clash of religions, and there are 50 Muslim nations in the United Nations, including the set of nations that contain the oil supply of both Europe and Asia - and those Muslim nations, therefore, have a great big say in things, they are part of the reason Israel is isolated.

I'm not saying anything that anybody doesn't know. It is not a SIMPLE situation at all. Ignoring the Palestinians means that the United States alone will spend a trillion dollars on just that issue over the next 30 years.

This is not an issue that is going to go away without resolving the security and poverty issues of BOTH sides, because BOTH sides have huge allies and interests.

IF Israel gets to keep all of the land and have it's way there, THEN something needs to be done about, and with, the 5 million (and growing) Palestinians, because the world will no more sit there and let that happen FOREVER than we tolerated slavery forever, or South African apartheid forever.

Israel is only a sympathetic nation to Jews, who are not numerous, and certain kinds of Christians, whose numbers are not growing anywhere near as fast as the numbers of people worldwide sympathetic to the Palestinians.

This problem is an infection. It doesn't go away. It causes a lot of pain and flares up. And it could become a life threatening illness.

If the solution is Israel gets the land (and that really IS part of the solution), then something must be done to compensate and resettle 5 million (and growing) Muslim Palestinians.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-15   14:45:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Vicomte13 (#28)

There is a titanic clash of religions, and there are 50 Muslim nations in the United Nations,

That's the real problem.

Do you realize how many times the Israels have tried to be nice about this. It has never worked.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2018-05-15   14:56:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Hank Rearden (#21)

wouldn't you want to do everything possible to preserve such an enormous investment?

If we were the beneficiaries of that investment, sure.

"Remember, the Moos (pigpiss be upon them) immediately destroyed $10 Million worth of greenhouses given to them for free by Jews."

Yeah. After the Jews turned off the water and killed all the food in those greenhouses. Plus, the owners of the greenhouses were compensated by charitable organizations, so they really didn't "give" them. They sold them to others who gave them to the Palestinians.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-15   14:58:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: no gnu taxes (#29)

Do you realize how many times the Israels have tried to be nice about this.

By "nice" do you mean the fact that only 50 Palestinians were killed in Gaza by the Israelis rather than 500?

misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-15   14:59:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Vicomte13 (#28)

then something must be done to compensate and resettle 5 million (and growing) Muslim Palestinians.

Boxcars?

misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-15   15:00:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: no gnu taxes (#20)

You do know at least as much money is given to the Jew Hating States as is given to Israel.

In order to keep the peace between Israel and Egypt, I believe we are bound by an agreement to give Egypt 2/3 of whatever we give Israel.

Thanks for bringing that up. There's another $50 billion we've dumped into that Mideast toilet.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-15   15:03:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: no gnu taxes (#29) (Edited)

Do you realize how many times the Israels have tried to be nice

You have perverse sense of humor, Parteigenosse.

A Pole  posted on  2018-05-15   15:29:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: no gnu taxes (#29)

That's the real problem.

Do you realize how many times the Israels have tried to be nice about this. It has never worked.

It doesn't matter. These are two people who hate each other, for a great number of reasons that are uninteresting to me. I've got two false religions, by a set of cousins in a culture to which I am unrelated - and they BOTH think they are superior creatures because of their ethnicities. I don't think that there are superior or inferior "races", but I sure don't like a lot about either of the contending cultures or their respective religions.

If I didn't have a bunch of yahoo religious fanatic countrymen obsessed with fairy tales about those people and their religion and cultures, I would think of Israel/Palestine the same way I do of China/Tibet. It's a shame. It's far away. I have sympathy. But I have no money or arms or time to really try to do anything about it.

I wish it were so regarding the Arabs and Israelis - I wish I could think of the Israelis as the Chinese and the Palestinians as the Uighurs or the Tibetans.

Unfortunately, there's so much religious fanaticism in America, and so much power politics here as a result of it, and so much oil - which of interest to everybody in the world - in the Arab countries, that I am not afforded the luxury of just ignoring the whole situation. My OWN COUNTRYMEN won't let me, either because they're obsessed with Jews, or obsessed with oil, or obsessed with being big swingin' imperialist dicks.

So there we are.

I want it DONE, and I know that fanatics who really believe they have a land claim - and the right to kill over it - because of an old book, are not going to give an inch, and my own people are gonna drag me back to this pool of vomit to deal with.

They can't cohabit the land: they hate each other.

They need to be separated.

That will end the war, and the cost, and the bloodshed. So that should be done.

Won't be, though.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-15   15:46:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: misterwhite (#32)

Boxcars?

Plane tickets, I would think.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-15   15:46:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Vicomte13 (#35)

They can't cohabit the land: they hate each other.

Yeah, because one group is black on the right side.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-15   16:55:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Vicomte13 (#36)

Boxcars?
Plane tickets, I would think.

Symbolism is important.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-15   16:56:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: misterwhite (#3)

The Jews got their state but never allowed the Palestinians to get theirs. Since 1948, Israel has been taking more and more of the land designated for the State of Palestine.

That statement is wrong, the Palestinians had Jordan which encompassed the West Bank, but the idiot arabs denied Israel the right to exist and stared a war which they lost and Israel captured the west bank and Gaza, something they probably regret, however you must have defensible borders. Jordan didn't want the Palestinians back and Egypt didn't want the Palestinians back and if they have no country it is their own fault

paraclete  posted on  2018-05-15   18:21:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Vicomte13 (#35)

no gnu taxes  posted on  2018-05-15   18:55:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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