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Title: Supreme Court Guts Due Process Protection
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URL Source: http://www.rense.com/general88/supreme.htm
Published: Dec 21, 2009
Author: naked capitalism
Post Date: 2009-12-21 19:46:38 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 1945
Comments: 22

Reader Walter passed along this distressing sighting from Chris Floyd's blog.

American civil liberties were gutted last week, and the media failed to report it.

Anyone who is arbitrarily declared a "suspected enemy combatant" by the president or his designated minions is no longer a "person."

The development? If the president or one of his subordinates declares someone to be an "enemy combatant" (the 21st century version of "enemy of the state") he is denied any protection of the law. So any trouble-maker (which means anyone) can be whisked away, incarcerated, tortured, "disappeared," you name it. Floyd's commentary: (http://chris-floyd.com/component/content/article/1-latest-news/1887- dred-scott-redux-obama-and-the-supremes-stand-up-for-slavery.html)

After hearing passionate arguments from the Obama Administration, the Supreme Court acquiesced to the president's fervent request and, in a one-line ruling, let stand a lower court decision that declared torture an ordinary, expected consequence of military detention, while introducing a shocking new precedent for all future courts to follow: anyone who is arbitrarily declared a "suspected enemy combatant" by the president or his designated minions is no longer a "person." They will simply cease to exist as a legal entity. They will have no inherent rights, no human rights, no legal standing whatsoever - save whatever modicum of process the government arbitrarily deigns to grant them from time to time, with its ever-shifting tribunals and show trials.

It is hard to overstate the significance of this horrid decision. The fact that the Supreme Court authorized this land grab says we no longer have an independent judiciary, that the Supreme Court itself is gutting the protections supposedly provided by the legal system. Per Floyd:

In fact, our most august defenders of the Constitution did not have to exert themselves in the slightest to eviscerate not merely 220 years of Constitutional jurisprudence but also centuries of agonizing effort to lift civilization a few inches out of the blood-soaked mire that is our common human legacy. They just had to write a single sentence.

Now Floyd saw this mainly as an issue of the treatment of enemy combatants and Obama hypocrisy about torture, which is bad enough:

The Constitution is clear: no person can be held without due process; no person can be subjected to cruel and unusual punishment. And the U.S. law on torture of any kind is crystal clear: it is forbidden, categorically, even in time of "national emergency." And the instigation of torture is, under U.S. law, a capital crime. No person can be tortured, at any time, for any reason, and there are no immunities whatsoever for torture offered anywhere in the law.

And yet this is what Barack Obama - who, we are told incessantly, is a super-brilliant Constitutional lawyer - has been arguing in case after case since becoming president: Torturers are immune from prosecution; those who ordered torture are immune from prosecution.let's be absolutely clear: Barack Obama has taken the freely chosen, public, formal stand - in court - that there is nothing wrong with any of these activities.

Yves here. The implications are FAR worse. Anyone can be stripped, with NO RECOURSE, of all their legal rights on a Presidential say so. Readers in the US no longer have any security under the law.

Roman citizens enjoyed a right to a trial, a right of appeal, and could not be tortured, whipped, or executed except if found guilty of treason, and anyone charged with treason could demand a trial in Rome. We have regressed more than 2000 years with this appalling ruling.

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2009/12/supreme-court-guts-due-process-protection.html

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#2. To: A K A Stone, *Military or Vets Affairs* (#0)

I am almost certain this article is pure bullshit and political spin because this finding was about guerillas captured in foreign lands.

The US Constitution and the Bill of Rights do NOT apply to foreigners in foreign countries,and they do not apply to un-uniformed insurgents fighting a guerrilla war. The Genevea Convention only applies to uniformed troops,not insurgents.

This would be outrageous if it were about US citizens inside the US being treated this way,but it's not.

According to international law and the Geneva Convention it is perfectly legal to execute guerrillas caught fighting in civilian clothes right where and when you catch them. They have no rights,period.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-21   20:26:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: sneakypete (#2)

This would be outrageous if it were about US citizens inside the US being treated this way,but it's not.

I do not believe that is an accurate statement. Jose Padilla is an American citizen who was arrested at O'Hare International Airport in Chicago, declared an illegal enemy combatant by George W. Bush on June 9, 2002 and transferred to a military prison. He was tortured for three and a half years before having the enemy combatant charge dropped against him. He was then transferred back into civilian custody.

Now it is inarguable that Padilla was a complete dirt bag who likely deserved everything he got, but the fact remains that he was an American citizen on American soil who was stripped of ALL of his constitutional rights on the whim of the executive. If it can happen to him it can happen to anyone, and considering that the government ALWAYS abuses its authority it WILL happen for unjustifiable reasons. It's just a matter of time.

Fibr Dog  posted on  2009-12-21   20:46:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Fibr Dog (#5)

the fact remains that he was an American citizen on American soil who was stripped of ALL of his constitutional rights on the whim of the executive. If it can happen to him it can happen to anyone, and considering that the government ALWAYS abuses its authority it WILL happen for unjustifiable reasons. It's just a matter of time.

I am only VERY vaguely familiar with Padilla,but if what you say is true and the case IS about him OR ANY OTHER US CITIZEN ARRESTED IN THIS COUNTRY,you are 100% on target with your comments.

Any government that has the power to do it to him has the power to do it to thee and me.

We are either all free and all have the same rights,or none of us are free and have any rights.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-21   21:05:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: sneakypete (#8)

I am only VERY vaguely familiar with Padilla,but if what you say is true and the case IS about him OR ANY OTHER US CITIZEN ARRESTED IN THIS COUNTRY,you are 100% on target with your comments.

Any government that has the power to do it to him has the power to do it to thee and me.

We are either all free and all have the same rights,or none of us are free and have any rights.

The Bush Administration's Torture of U.S. Citizen Jose Padilla

If you have the time it would be well worth the effort to read this article about what happened to Padilla. Like I said earlier, the fact that he likely deserved everything he got is besides the point.

Fibr Dog  posted on  2009-12-21   21:14:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#16. To: Fibr Dog (#10)

the fact that he likely deserved everything he got is besides the point.

Absolutely! Governments,ALL governments have the bad habit of using outrageous cases to establish bad legal precedents.

The problem is that once these precedents are established,they are no longer used exclusively against the bad guys. They expand their reach and expand the list of what qualifies somebody to be a "bag guy".

It happened in Russia in the 1920's and in Germany in the 1930's,and look at what happened in both nations.

Just because we are Americans that doesn't mean it can't happen here if we're not vigilant.

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