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Title: Revolt: Three EU nations block resolution meant to "embarrass and isolate" the White House
Source: HotAir
URL Source: https://hotair.com/archives/2018/05 ... embarrass-isolate-white-house/
Published: May 13, 2018
Author: Jazz Shaw
Post Date: 2018-05-13 11:22:43 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 6099
Comments: 43

Preparations are underway for the grand opening of the new United States embassy to Israel in Jerusalem. While the President won’t be able to attend as he prepares for his summit with North Korea, Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump have arrived to do the honors along with a number of other delegates. But not everyone is quite so thrilled with this development, particularly in some parts of the European Union. They were preparing to put forward a resolution condemning the embassy move, delivering a statement which was explicitly designed to “embarrass and isolate the Trump administration” ahead of the ceremony.

That nasty little poison pill fell apart this weekend, however, when three member nations blocked the resolution. The objection was led by Hungary, which was quickly joined by Romania and the Czech Republic. (Axios)
Hungary, the Czech Republic and Romania, in coordination with Israel, today blocked a joint EU statement criticizing the relocation of the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem, Israeli officials and European diplomats told me.

Behind the scenes: The initiative to publish the statement was led by France and several other EU member states. Israeli officials say the goal was to present to the U.S. a common position against the move by all 28 member states, and to embarrass and isolate the Trump administration ahead of Monday’s ceremony.

It turns out that the driving force behind the original resolution was French President Emmanuel Macron. Nice ally, eh? And it was only a few weeks ago that he was over here getting all touchy-feely with Trump amid speculation that he was playing some sort of flattery game to advance his position with the United States. So it’s perhaps not all that surprising that the revolt would be led by Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban who has been no fan of the socialist bent of the European Union and frequently acted as a thorn in the side of Brussels.

It’s also unsurprising that the Czechs and the Romanians would join in with Orban on this. Both countries are currently reviewing plans to possibly move their embassies to Jerusalem as well. That put a bit of a damper on the three points listed in the resolution, which were as follows:

  • Jerusalem should be the capital of both states — Israel and the future state of Palestine.
  • The final status of Jerusalem should be negotiated and only determined through negotiations between the parties.
  • The member states of the EU will not follow the U.S. and will not move their embassies to Jerusalem.

Here’s one question for Macron and the rest of the EU leaders who were prepared to go along with this insult. Why is it anyone’s business where the U.S. Embassy to Isreal is located except for the United States and Israel? The embassy can be wherever both countries mutually decide it should be. And trying to tell us where to locate our embassy looks rather embarrassing for Brussels when they can’t even enforce such an order on their own member nations. Perhpas minding your own business would be the better course of action here.


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Too funny to see the EU's smelly little plot to embarrass Trump so deftly foiled by Orban.

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#1. To: Tooconservative (#0)

The Trump WH is a culture of raw sewage... There is nothing that anybody can say or do that would insult them... they just merely absorb & wallow in the slimey shit that they embrace as a protective barrier...

Willie Green  posted on  2018-05-13   11:38:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Willie Green (#1)

I thought it was funny to see Orban crap all over Macron's petty plot to grab a few cheap headlines.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-13   11:51:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Tooconservative (#2)

I thought it was funny to see Orban crap all over Macron's petty plot to grab a few cheap headlines.

The EU thought it was admitting satellites.

But the NATO alliance is led by the USA, not Brussels.

The smaller states of the East that joined both did not intend to be freed of the Soviets only to hand their countries over to the French, British and Germans. They intend to be free states - protected by NATO - and rich states - economically within the EU.

And they are perfectly willing to play their security chief, the USA, off against their economic chiefs, in Brussels, to make their own way forward.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-14   9:34:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Vicomte13 (#3) (Edited)

I just was into the schadenfreude when those eastern states flipped them off and ruined their little scheme to condemn the new US embassy with a "unified voice".

I wouldn't be surprised if these three countries announce they are ready to move their embassies as well. And I bet the Israelis will give them a prime embassy location too.

Trump and Bibi have paved the way for this with advance work. The Romanian prez got an early WH visit with Trump. The Czechs and Hungarians are also recognized. And Israeli diplomacy is quite strong in eastern Europe. Bibi had a very successful tour in Hungary last year, spent 3-4 days there, right around the time they were passing laws to ban Soros and his subversive organizations. Israel is helping the Romanians try to establish a little Silicon Valley of their own, a regional tech hub like the ones that have worked well for Finland.

I can think of others, like a few of the Baltics, perhaps Austria, moving their embassies as well. When that EU diplomatic dam breaks, it will break fast. In fact, this will pose a key test of EU authority to force members to do its will in foreign policy. The EU bigwigs may regret picking this little diplo fight with eastern Europe and America if it makes the EU look even more toothless and weak.

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Too soon for any stories to be published but AP just tweeted that the USSC struck down all bans on state-sponsored sports betting.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-14   11:57:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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In fact, this will pose a key test of EU authority to force members to do its will in foreign policy. The EU bigwigs may regret picking this little diplo fight with eastern Europe and America if it makes the EU look even more toothless and weak.

The EU is, above all, an ECONOMIC alliance. When it comes to standards and patents and regulatory inspection frameworks, of course all of Europe has to play by the same rules. The EU, and the Common Market before that, have been great at elevating the GDP of the free European countries.

When it comes to foreign policy and defense policy, though, the desire of the old imperial powers, France and the UK, particularly France, to turn the EU into a base of international political power is a weak game. Europe simply doesn't have the military power to do that. Nor does it have the military record. America is utterly credible in the military sphere. We always beat Europeans, every time. The only people we DIDN'T beat was the Vietnamese, and who cares? It may drive crazy,American armchair warriors who want to speak of an unbroken record by redefining words, but nobody else cares, or should.

The US is the prime mover in military affairs, and military power is the prime mover, or backup force, in all international relations. Sure, economic power matters, but it's military power is still the alpha.

So, of course the Eastern Europeans want to be active members of the EU for economic reasons. But when it comes to military affairs, the EU is small beer and all posturing. The USA is the King, and currying favor with the King on matters of concern to the King is the way to gain favors from Washington that Paris and Brussels cannot match.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-14 13:18:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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Too soon for any stories to be published but AP just tweeted that the USSC struck down all bans on state-sponsored sports betting.

Interesting. Well, that definitely is a state matter.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-14 13:18:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Tooconservative (#4) (Edited)

I was looking at a democracy simulator last night, setting all of the policies, laws and taxes for the USA. It was interesting. I don't buy all of the premises built into the game logic, but it does let one simulate all sorts of different things.

Faced with the social issues and their religious and police and policy and law cross-effects, I realized that - when I am at the controls and am able to set the law where my heart and head tell me they should be.

Here's a litany of related issues: Abortion - to save the life of the mother only.

Evolution/Creation - teach both in public school, but heavily favor evolution as the scientific answer.

Same-sex stuff: tolerate it. Don't care.

Gambling: legalize it, no limits. Tax the proceeds as any other income.

Prostitution: legalize it all and tax it as any other income.

Drugs: legalize pot and tax the hell out of it. Keep stronger stuff illegal - too addictive and destructive. - treat drug addiction as a medical issue, not a crime.

Drinking age: 18. Smoking age: 18. Tax the hell out of tobacco and alcohol too.

Prayer and religious symbols in school: permit them, but do not allow schools to force them.

People for whom drinking, smoking (tobacco or pot) and gambling are religious issues would be outraged. Don't care. Their religion is wrong on the matter, and they don't get to rule.

Prostitution and gay shit are immoral in my eyes and the eyes of my religion too. Don't care. We don't live in a theocracy. When my church ruled the roost, we burnt people for heresy and witchcraft. Religious law is not secular law. Religious law cannot be allowed to govern human secular law of sex.

Abortion is murder, so we must stop that.

I am waaaay too tolerant to be either a Protestant or a conservative, or a "good" Catholic. So what?

If people want to gamble, let them gamble. I don't care. It's none of my business. It's not the federal government's business, and it's not really the state or local government's business either.

Since people won't resist the urge to pass laws and can't be persuaded, then having the Supreme Court wipe out all of that namby-pamby moralizing is fine by me. I'm done with it.

Smoke what you want. Fuck whom you want. Throw your money away however you want. I don't care. But don't kill babies. I do care about that.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-14 13:32:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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