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Title: Ford Offers Buyouts to All Factory Workers
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URL Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009 ... tm_source=feedburner&utm_mediu
Published: Dec 21, 2009
Author: cbsnews.com
Post Date: 2009-12-21 18:45:28 by WhiteSands
Keywords: Ford, Jobs, Taxes,OSHA,Carbon Taxes
Views: 13099
Comments: 154
(AP) Ford Motor Co. says it is offering buyout and early retirement incentives to all of its 41,000 U.S. hourly workers to further reduce its factory work force. Company spokesman Mark Truby said Ford still has too many factory workers for its current sales levels. He would not say how many workers the company wants to leave but said Ford is working that out with the United Auto Workers union. Ford currently has about 600 blue-collar workers laid off but available for recall. The buyout offer includes $50,000 cash plus a $25,000 car voucher or $20,000 more in cash. The retirement package includes $40,000 cash for skilled trades and $20,000 for production workers.
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#73. To: Thor (#62)
That is not what I said. Bush's Un-American and Immoral Call for "National Service" http://www.aynrand.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=5319 The 'collectivist' belief in the supremacy of the group over the individual is the foundation of the national-service ideology, which regards the individual as a servant to the nation. And the proponents of "duty" to the state, although they claim to be patriots, are espousing a view that is fundamentally un-American. Unions are Inherently UnAmerican — Teachers Union Rips Off Members www.americanconservatived...s-union-rips-off-members/ Imagine a fast food place that makes you buy a cheeseburger when you want a chicken sandwich. Oh, they don’t mind if you buy the chicken sandwich, too, mind you, but you are forced to purchase a cheeseburger every time you walk through the doors whether you want it or not. Seems a bit like a rip off, not to mention unAmerican, to force you to buy something you don’t want, doesn’t it? Well, this is unionism. Only unions prevent you from even having a job in your chosen profession in the first place to have the cash to buy your chicken sandwich unless you follow their rules. That’s forced labor for other’s benefit. We used to call that a form of enslavement… now it’s called union membership. Are Teachers’ Unions Un-American? 97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=31986 Thomas Jefferson once said, "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." In 2008 his words are more than an apt description of the relationship that many of our nation’s educators have with the teachers’ unions. The fact that public school teachers in most states have no choice but to pay tribute in the form of dues to the unions is certainly tyrannical and therefore un-American.
they join because they know as a group they hold much more power. Union members absolutely lose the individual right to negotiate with their employer on a one on one basis, as an individual. And how is this power derived? In a labor market, individuals negotiate, groups coerce. I recently (less than 2 months ago) had a union rep tell me face to face, in a meeting of about 16 people, that people would get hurt and our building would burn down. This meeting happened to be in Illinois. I looked him in the eye and told him that union members can get smoked just like anyone else and union halls are just as flammable as any other structure. The meeting was recessed and when we came back that rep was no longer at the table. The company I work for is non union, that's why I accepted the position. I deal with union reps and workers a lot and they will, by force if necessary, try to keep other American citizens from even having a job in their chosen professions, much less working in their 'territories'. They are thugs by the very definition of the word. They also force a member to pay dues, that end up pushing a political agenda that the majority are opposed to. That is absolutely unAmerican.
BTW, they didn't recess the meeting until after they heard my response. They allowed his statement to stand, long enough to hear my reply. They sanctioned and condoned his actions and his statement and I have no doubt that his line was scripted. I showed them that they could not intimidate me or my company and didn't budge, and we now have union and non union workers on the same site. They tried to push out my guys, fellow American citizens, through intimidation and coercion. And THEY work for US!
The American economy started 215 years ago, and the nation was built fro the ground up on tariffs. Sorry, that is a fact. The Delphi Corporation has 146,000 employees, only 18,000 work in America; it has several plants in Brazil, China and Mexico. Delphi had to close or sell 21 of it's 29 plants in America because those plants simply cannot keep up with companies who outsource to the third world. They were killed by free trade. IF we had proper tariffs, foreign goods would have been priced out of market and the jobs would have stayed here. Instead they are shipped off to China and Brazil.
Stand Up, Men of the West!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgSdiX0kDI
With parts assembled elsewhere.
You'll notice I wrote "Unions used to protect the worker." Not so much these days.
(me)My Buick was assembled in Canada. My Subaru was assembled in Indiana. I think you missed my point mel. My "American vehicle", a buick, was not assembled in the United States from parts assembled overseas. My "American vehicle" was assembled in Canada. My "Japanese vehicle" was assembled in the United States. There are no more "American" car companies. There are no more "Japanese" car companies. They're all "international" car companies. The NWO, as far as vehicles are concerned, is here.
______________________________________________________________ tag ... you're it.
You chose to support it with your purchases.
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
Americans preferred to buy cheap imports thus driving US manufacturers out of business or off shore. No one was forced to buy Jap and German cars, Jap electronics or Taiwanese dry goods. Had no one bought there would have been no market. I still refuse to buy cheap imports. Though fighting the tide is nearly impossible as even Pendleton and Filson have been forced to outsource manufacturing to be competetive. Thank you, all you fookin cheap bastards that bought, buy and support cheap import manufacturers!!! You brought unemployment and outsourcing yourselves, you fookin morons!
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
They were killed because fookin cheap bastards like you didn't want to pay the price for American labor produced products. You made the choice to kill American manufacturing! Now you reap the resulting outsourcing and unemployment. Fookin cheap skate morons.
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
V-8 Chevrolet engines are now made in Mexico.
http://media.ford.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=29893 ROMEO, Mich., Feb. 19, 2009 – After years of delivering power to two of Ford Motor Company’s iconic products, the Ford F-150 and Mustang, Romeo Engine Plant has reached a historic milestone – the production of its 10 millionth engine. The 10 millionth engine, a 4.6 liter 3-valve V-8, will be shipped to AutoAlliance International in Flat Rock, Mich., to be installed in a new 2010 Mustang GT.
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
Nice theory,but like most theories it just doesn't hold up in the real world. In the real world workers get paid what the job is worth,and the worlds best janitor is not going to get paid any more than average janitors in his or her area of the country. The job is a low-skill job that requires a minimum of intelligence,skills,or training,and a janitor just isn't going to get paid what a tool and die maker is paid,period.
The NWO, as far as vehicles are concerned, is here. BINGO! They are all "Corporate Citizens of the World".
I didn't. I still buy American when I have a choice,even if I have to pay slightly more. I no longer even have that option in most cases. For example,I just bought a Quincy 2-stage industrial air compressor. It was made in Quincy,Illinois. Made from parts made in America,not assembled in America out of foreign-made parts. I may be wrong,but I think it is the only air compressors made for consumers that is still made in the US. This wasn't entirely unselfish on my part. The Campbell-Hausfeld 2-stage air compressor that is comparable has a projected pump life of 10,000 hours. The pump on my Quincy is rated to last 50,000 hours. Since I am not running a business where the air compressor will be used 40 hours a week (40 hours a month would be closer,and probably not that often),the 10,000 hour one would last longer than I will,but I paid the extra money and bought the one made in the USA anyhow. Will I pay (for example) $6,000 to $8000 for a car lift made in the USA if I can find a comparable one not built in the USA for $2000? No,I won't. And didn't. Especially when neither of the two USA manufacturers I found producing them even bothered to return my phone calls or emails with a price. This despite in one case calling the one guy 3 times on the same day and leaving messages with his secretary,who told me he was the only one authorized to give out prices. Only a insane man would agree to buy something without knowing what it will cost,including shipping. If this makes me a bad guy,so be it. I do what I can do within my means,but am under no illusions that I am going to save the country with my nickel and dime purchases.
Ok,now tell me how many of those Ford 4.6 engines get put into Chevrolets.
Know what's sad sneakypete? A lot of the useful idiots really BELIEVE that if we all become dependent on each other, there will be sunshine and lollypops and rainbows everywhere. If my leg were dependent on my arm for survival, my leg would die if I lost my arm. Know what I mean?
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Mine are made in my garage. ;-)
Hmmm.. Pete, It is absolutely true. Supply and demand is the way the world works. Socialists just try to get around it , because they ain't got nothing that nobody wants to pay money for- so they resort to manipulations.
Absolutely. And they ain't even lying when they claim it will be a end to war. You don't declare war on yourself.
Mine are made in my garage. ;-) Not unless you have a foundry,boring mills,lathes,etc,etc,etc.
You mean they are free. To move as desired?
----------------------------------------------------------- Unfortunately that attitude by the American consumer 50 years ago is what precipitated the demise of US manufacturing.
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
DUH....Ford ISN"T GM.
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
I would like to have a maid, but I can't afford a legal beautiful, blue-eyed blonde, so I go without.
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
To move as desired? here's one of the useful idiots I told you about sneakypete. The ones who think GM should be "free" get my money through taxes, then be "free" to move wherever they want.
______________________________________________________________ tag ... you're it.
Incorrect.
______________________________________________________________ tag ... you're it.
No, the jobs and products were gone once free trade was enacted. It was pushed by companies so once the barriers were lifted they could move without the consequences of tariffs. So are you a fooker who supports free trade or a fooker who supports fair trade?
Stand Up, Men of the West!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgSdiX0kDI
There's a reason.......The Bryan Times - Apr 3, 1975 Import car sales set new record. One in five new car sales are imports.
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
You, Thor and all the rest of the consumers who bought foreign instead of US manufactured are responsible for the demise of the US manufacturing sector. That you don't want to shoulder the blame is entirely understandable. You're fookin cowards from the word go. What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
Buy American, fookin moron!
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
I understand why people think you're yukon, what with the continous stream of retarded posts. You're right up there with him. And luberator.
Good. You're another fookin, dummy, teabagger, biffy. Do you dine on balls constantly?
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
Incorrect.
______________________________________________________________ tag ... you're it.
I was trying to not be so moribund but yes...the forecast is the opposite of sunny and warm....just wait til the idiot regime "leader" gets 2010 under his skirt......I won't be surprised to see some things out of hand by 2011 as the natives are going to be more than restless I bet. I'll probably start to show it's side with another idiot Tim McVeigh clownish action...and then it'll be interesting to see who jumps on which bandwagon.
Death to everybody who does not get outta my way.
Chuckles......hadn't thought of that one yet:)
Death to everybody who does not get outta my way.
The perversion of their once more noble mission started probably back before I was born...
Death to everybody who does not get outta my way.
Your denials are weak and fatuous.
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
You mean they are free. To move as desired? That's the way a fascist "One Worlder" would see it that cares nothing about country and everything about self.
Unfortunately that attitude by the American consumer 50 years ago is what precipitated the demise of US manufacturing. BullBush! If you are trying to make the claim you only buy American made products,you are a liar,and if you are trying to lump me in with the internationalists and others who only care about price and care nothing about country,you are a idiot.
DUH....Ford ISN"T GM. No kidding? Odd that you noticed this now,and didn't notice we were talking about Chevrolets when you broke in with the comment about Ford engines.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestUnions are certainly based on collective interests, but by your definition any collective body is socialist.
#74. To: Thor (#62)
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Union members don't lose any rights,
#75. To: Thor (#74)
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#76. To: Ibluafartsky (#66)
#77. To: Wood_Chopper (#55)
Mine was built in the USA.
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#78. To: e_type_jag, We The People (#58)
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#79. To: mel (#53)
(mel)even American vehicles are made with parts assembled overseas these days.
#80. To: Wood_Chopper (#79)
The NWO, as far as vehicles are concerned, is here.
#81. To: sneakypete, All (#71)
Really? Tell us about all the choices we have when it comes to buying even simple things like plumbing fittings,nails,tv sets,toasters,etc,etc,etc.
#82. To: Thor (#76)
They were killed by free trade.
#83. To: mel (#51)
I prefer Chevy over Ford. Unfortunatly, even American vehicles are made with parts assembled overseas these days.
#84. To: sneakypete, mel (#83)
#85. To: diva betsy ross (#72)
If a janitor is sought after and skilled and needed- they will make money. Free Market is about self motivation and responsibility. It is kinda American n'at.
#86. To: Wood_Chopper (#79)
They're all "international" car companies.
#87. To: Ibluafartsky (#81)
Americans preferred to buy cheap imports thus driving US manufacturers out of business or off shore.
#88. To: Ibluafartsky (#84)
The 10 millionth engine, a 4.6 liter 3-valve V-8, will be shipped to AutoAlliance International in Flat Rock, Mich., to be installed in a new 2010 Mustang GT.
#89. To: sneakypete (#86)
BINGO! They are all "Corporate Citizens of the World".
#90. To: sneakypete (#83)
V-8 Chevrolet engines are now made in Mexico.
Click if you want the truth. Click here for an important video message
#91. To: sneakypete (#85)
#92. To: Wood_Chopper (#89)
A lot of the useful idiots really BELIEVE that if we all become dependent on each other, there will be sunshine and lollypops and rainbows everywhere.
#93. To: mel (#90)
V-8 Chevrolet engines are now made in Mexico.
#94. To: sneakypete (#86)
BINGO! They are all "Corporate Citizens of the World".
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#95. To: sneakypete (#87)
If this makes me a bad guy,so be it. I do what I can do within my means,but am under no illusions that I am going to save the country with my nickel and dime purchases.
#96. To: sneakypete (#88)
Ok,now tell me how many of those Ford 4.6 engines get put into Chevrolets.
#97. To: mel (#90)
Mine are made in my garage. ;-)
#98. To: WhiteSands, sneakypete (#94)
You mean they are free.
#99. To: Ibluafartsky (#95)
Unfortunately that attitude by the American consumer 50 years ago is what precipitated the demise of US manufacturing.
#100. To: Ibluafartsky (#82)
fookin
#101. To: sneakypete (#87)
I didn't. I still buy American when I have a choice,even if I have to pay slightly more. I no longer even have that option in most cases.
#102. To: Wood_Chopper, Thor, All (#99)
Incorrect.
#103. To: Thor (#100)
#104. To: Ibluafartsky (#102)
Chasing Nuts Around the Interweb for Years
#105. To: Biff Tannen (#104)
I understand
#106. To: Ibluafartsky (#102)
You, Thor and all the rest of the consumers who bought foreign instead of US manufactured are responsible for the demise of the US manufacturing sector.
#107. To: sneakypete (#67)
I honestly think things have already gone too far to be solved by any political means that doesn't involve hangings and firing squads. You are a part-time cop and I know you don't want to hear that,but get used to the idea. None of the rest of us really wanted to hear it,either.
#108. To: Ibluafartsky (#105)
Do you dine on balls constantly?
#109. To: mel (#78)
You'll notice I wrote "Unions used to protect the worker." Not so much these days.
#110. To: Wood_Chopper (#106)
Incorrect.
#111. To: WhiteSands (#94)
BINGO! They are all "Corporate Citizens of the World".
#112. To: Ibluafartsky (#95)
If this makes me a bad guy,so be it. I do what I can do within my means,but am under no illusions that I am going to save the country with my nickel and dime purchases.
#113. To: Ibluafartsky (#96)
Ok,now tell me how many of those Ford 4.6 engines get put into Chevrolets.
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