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Title: Ford Offers Buyouts to All Factory Workers
Source: cbsnews.com
URL Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009 ... tm_source=feedburner&utm_mediu
Published: Dec 21, 2009
Author: cbsnews.com
Post Date: 2009-12-21 18:45:28 by WhiteSands
Keywords: Ford, Jobs, Taxes,OSHA,Carbon Taxes
Views: 13162
Comments: 154

(AP) Ford Motor Co. says it is offering buyout and early retirement incentives to all of its 41,000 U.S. hourly workers to further reduce its factory work force.

Company spokesman Mark Truby said Ford still has too many factory workers for its current sales levels.

He would not say how many workers the company wants to leave but said Ford is working that out with the United Auto Workers union. Ford currently has about 600 blue-collar workers laid off but available for recall.

The buyout offer includes $50,000 cash plus a $25,000 car voucher or $20,000 more in cash. The retirement package includes $40,000 cash for skilled trades and $20,000 for production workers.

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#21. To: Bickus Dickus, diva betsy ross (#10)

The Unions there killed the Auto makers.

Not without the full cooperation of the automakers themselves.

......and a large segment of the US population that bought and continue to buy imports and support foreign manufacturers.

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-22   15:51:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: diva betsy ross (#17)

I don't care how old you are, your version of events simply doesn't coincide with the facts that GM had it's highest rates of profitability in the 60s when unionization was at it's highest rates. What happened to Detroit has nothing to do with workers getting together and demanding a decent wage. IT has to do with free trade.

Stand Up, Men of the West!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgSdiX0kDI

Thor  posted on  2009-12-22   17:06:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Thor (#22)

IT has to do with free trade.

It has to do with 'American' consumers purchasing and supporting imports and their manufacturers. We Americans have choices. No one that I have knowledge of was forced to purchase or support Japanese and German auto makers.

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-22   17:12:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Ibluafartsky (#23)

Bullshit, you don't have a choice when most manufacturing has been shipped overseas and you lost your high paying manufacturing job and any cheap affordable car is foreign.

Though, at least your argument isn't as bad as other free traitors. You know their are no merits, and won't argue that their are. But you are a blind global capitalist ideologue that puts your suicidal theories before what's best for the nation.

Stand Up, Men of the West!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgSdiX0kDI

Thor  posted on  2009-12-22   17:28:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Thor (#24)

Bullshit, you don't have a choice

You're a typical fookin retard. We had choices and still do.

If I manufacture a widget in Topeka, Kansas, paying a living wage to my workers, and the workers can buy a widget manufactured in Japan for less money and they do, how fookin stupid do you have to be to not realize by buying imported widgets, you are jeopardizing your own employment.

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-22   17:54:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Ibluafartsky (#25) (Edited)

No, you are the short sighted one. Stop drinking the GOP kool aid and look at reality. You are looking at the effects of free trade. Such a situation wouldn't exist with tariffs in a protectionist system. Tariffs make it unprofitable to move offshore because off the huge taxes levied on foreign goods brought into the country. Of course, once you eliminate those tariffs, it becomes much more profitable to move to the third world where you can pay mexicans or chinese pennies on the dollar. That is what American manfacturers who wished to go international lobbied for, and they got their wish. Tariffs were what made America strong and built America into an economic superpower. Tariffs protected American jobs and wages from cheap third world labor.

Stand Up, Men of the West!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgSdiX0kDI

Thor  posted on  2009-12-22   17:59:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Thor (#26)

No, you are the short sighted one.

I'll bet you drive an import and are a cheap fooker who buys cheap crap that supports foreign manufacturers.

You make the choice to buy or not to buy. Americans support foreign manufacturers.

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-22   18:03:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Ibluafartsky (#27)

A cheap fooker? What the hell is a fooker? The fact is, you didn't disprove a single thing I said. The choice Americans have is the same choice we will have in regards to government mandates to buy private insurance. IT isn't a choice when you have a low paying service job when your high oaying manufacturing jobs were shipped overseas due to elimination of tariffs and your choice is between a cheaper foreign car and a more expensive ar that claims to be made in the USA. Bt even if you buy a Ford, it is about as American as a Toyota. Both have assembly plants here, but the fact is most of the parts of your car are made in third world countries like Mexico because with elimination of tariffs it is much cheaper and more profitable for the company to do so.

Your pro free trade position is a minority position that is pretty much only held by east coast money managers, neo con academics, GOP and Democratic Leadership, and multinational corporate management. Most americans want renegotiation of trade deals and want fair trade.

Stand Up, Men of the West!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgSdiX0kDI

Thor  posted on  2009-12-22   18:15:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Thor (#28)

The fact is, you didn't disprove a single thing I said.

You're so fookin stupid you can't comprehend the simple concept of choice. Go ahead and buy imported shit. Then bitch and moan about no jobs! Fookin morons!

Free Trade does not inhibit Free Choice, IDIOT!

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-22   18:39:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Ibluafartsky (#29)

No, the fact is, you aren't able to understand basic economics. I know you have contempt for working Americans, the Republican party(as has the Democratic Party since the 60s) has always been the enemy of the White American working class, but you are letting that hate blind any reason you have. You keep talking about this choice, as though there are any cars mostly made in America and that money just grows on trees for most Americans, it just isn't the case. One has no choice financially when they are are stuck in lower paying service jobs to just splurge and spend an extra 5,000 bucks on a car assembled in America but with parts built in Mexico; they are already living pay check to paycheck. The jobs are gone because former American but now multinational companies shipped jobs to the third world once tariffs were eliminated. It wasn't Americans' fault, it was the fault of politicians who voted the way of the corporate lobbies.

Stand Up, Men of the West!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgSdiX0kDI

Thor  posted on  2009-12-22   18:48:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Thor (#22)

Well, what I know from personal experience is that based upon the Union mentally, people predicted that Ford would be the last ones standing- as long as far back as 20 years ago when I was a kid.

So call it a co-inky dink.. but I don't know anyone, who lived in the environment in Metro Detroit, who is surprised that Ford is the last one standing.

The Unions killed the Auto makers.

diva betsy ross  posted on  2009-12-22   18:51:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Thor (#30)

I know you have contempt for working Americans

You keep talking about this choice,

You fookin moron, I have contempt for you fookin assholes who abandoned the American worker when YOU decided to buy imported shit. You're guilty!

You're too fookin greedy and stupid to support US manufacturers and workers. You and those like you have brought this country down to the level it is today. I detest you despicable, whining, stupid, fookin idiots! I'm not holding your hand!

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-22   18:57:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Ibluafartsky (#32) (Edited)

Wow, you are angry, I think I have hit a nerve. No, the multinational corporations and the corrupt politicians of the Democrat and Republican ilk who line their pockets with their lobbies' dollars are to blame. They eliminated tariffs, thereby eliminating protections against third world labor on American jobs and wages. The sad truth is, you care more about adherence to suicidal global capitalism than you do about the welfare of the American worker.

Stand Up, Men of the West!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgSdiX0kDI

Thor  posted on  2009-12-22   19:05:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Thor (#33)

No, the multinational corporations and the corrupt politicians of the Democrat and Republican ilk who line their pockets with their lobbies' dollars are to blame. They eliminated tariffs, thereby eliminating protections against third world labor on American jobs and wages.

Not to mention the ever higher mountain of regulations continually coming out of the District of Criminals.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-22   19:14:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Thor (#33)

I think I have hit a nerve.

They eliminated tariffs

the welfare of the American worker.

You're so fookin stupid you probably hit yourself in the head with a club and then declare how much better you feel when you stop!

They didn't force you cheap assholes to buy foreign shit, did they?

The truth is you cheap fellators killed the American worker. You are GUILTY!

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-22   19:16:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Ibluafartsky (#32)

I'm not holding your hand!

LOL!

Guess who else says this all the time yukon?

You guessed it.......YUKON!

LMAOAY illegal alien!

We The People  posted on  2009-12-22   19:17:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Ibluafartsky (#35)

Wow, now the American worker is a cheap asshole. However, I am not surprised of your attitudes towards the average working white American; as those are the attitudes of the GOP leadership. Your contempt for the average working American living pay check to pay check is wrong and unpatriotic.

Stand Up, Men of the West!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgSdiX0kDI

Thor  posted on  2009-12-22   19:21:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: We The People (#34)

thereby eliminating protections against third world labor on American jobs and wages.

Not to mention the ever higher mountain of regulations continually coming out of the District of Criminals.

Protections? You as a consumer need protections? You don't have the fookin brainpower to see that buying foreign shit is going to eliminate US production? You are a product of either retardation, failed parenting and public education, or all of the aforementioned.

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-22   19:22:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Thor (#37)

Wow, now the American worker is a cheap asshole.

average working white American

living pay check to pay check

If the glove fits, wear it. You're guilty as charged. No one forced you cheap assholes to buy foreign shit, did they?

Are you now claiming all "average working white American" are fookin morons like you?

You are to blame. You choose to buy cheap imported shit and put your fellow workers on unemployment!

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-22   19:27:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Ibluafartsky (#38)

Protections? You as a consumer need protections?

That's not even what was said, idiot!

You do know why you have to spin everything right?

We The People  posted on  2009-12-22   19:27:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: We The People (#36)

You guessed it.......YUKON!

Which one? I sure get a charge out of your attempts at changing the subject when you have been

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-22   19:33:21 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Ibluafartsky (#41)

LMAO!

Sure thing Alice.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-22   19:34:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: We The People (#40)

That's not even what was said,

So who brought up "protections", moron? Your weak attempts at spin and changing the subject are pathetic at best.

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-22   19:36:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Ibluafartsky (#39)

Wrong again. You simply raen't living in reality. You act as though Americans chose to have jobs shipped overseas. You do so so you can cast the blame on those you hate for the conditions created by the nightmare of free trade away from the corporate lobbies who pushed for it. There is no choice for those living from pay check to pay check when they were relegated to lower paying service work after their jobs were shipped overseas by corporation who pushed for the elimination of tariffs. As I said before, they have no choice when it is between a cheap Japanese make and a "made in America" car who parts were made in mexico and then assembled in America which is out of their price range and has higher maintenance costs. You don't live in the nightmarish reality that this global capitalist system has created for the dwindling middle and working class. All you are loyal to is a word, capitalism, and you disregard else. Instead of blaming the perpetrators, you blame the victims.

Stand Up, Men of the West!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgSdiX0kDI

Thor  posted on  2009-12-22   19:41:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: We The People (#42)

LMAO!

Impossible. You and Manchelle are never going to accomplish that, weepy!

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-22   19:43:28 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Thor (#44)

You simply raen't(sic) living in reality.

they have no choice

You are undoubtedly one of the dumbest fookin posters ever to inhabit the internet. Obviously you lack IQ and education and unfortunately I have no way of lowering myself to your level. I believe you need a special education specialist.

The consumer MADE THE CHOICE when the first Jap and German imports were marketed in the US. Keyriced, get a fookin clue!!!!

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-22   19:49:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Ibluafartsky (#46)

No, the fact is, you wouldn't be able to post if cuss words didn't exist. The fact you just cuss and repeat the same things over and over shows your lack of intelligence.

Stand Up, Men of the West!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgSdiX0kDI

Thor  posted on  2009-12-22   19:52:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Ibluafartsky (#45)

Impossible. You and Manchelle are never going to accomplish that, weepy!

You've already accomplished it yukon.

I call you Alice because you live in Wonderland. You're a complete dunce and a waste of time, just like over at LP.

I think I'll put you on bozo. I'm tiring of your idiotic responses.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-22   20:00:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Thor (#47)

No, the fact is,

repeat the same things over and over

You're a government lackey who needs someone or thing to make choices for you because you are incapable of making them yourself. FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is all you have done while ignoring the fact that the American consumer had choices!!!!

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-22   20:07:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: We The People (#48)

you live in Wonderland.

I think I'll put you on bozo.

Yea, I wonder how you fookin morons manage to feed, clothe and wash yourselves.

You are a BOZO, you fookin clown!

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-22   20:09:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: We The People, Thor (#34)

When I was very little, my dad and uncle worked for the railroad. They were very fortunate to belong to the union. Unions used to protect the worker. I prefer Chevy over Ford. Unfortunatly, even American vehicles are made with parts assembled overseas these days.


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mel  posted on  2009-12-22   20:47:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: mel (#51)

This is just my opinion on unions and nothing against you or your union family members.

I am absolutely anti union. This country was founded upon the rights of the individual. Not rights granted or coerced as part of a group.

The employee/employer relationship should be just that, between the employer and the employee.

Union members lose the right to individually negotiate with their employer. That is unAmerican.

Unions are socialistic in their very nature.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-22   22:37:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: mel (#51)

even American vehicles are made with parts assembled overseas these days.

My Buick was assembled in Canada. My Subaru was assembled in Indiana.

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Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-22   22:57:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Wood_Chopper, mel (#53)

My Subaru was assembled in Indiana.

Fuji Heavy Industries Ltd. (FHI), the maker of Subaru automobiles, is a leading manufacturer in Japan

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-22   23:29:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Ibluafartsky (#54)

Fuji Heavy Industries Ltd. (FHI), the maker of Subaru automobiles, is a leading manufacturer in Japan

Mine was built in the USA.

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Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-23   0:02:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Wood_Chopper (#55)

Mine was built in the USA.

So where do the profits go? TOKYO! You're another supporter of globalism and Free Trade.

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-23   0:16:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: sneakypete (#4)

At this point we HAVE to stop and wonder just exactly what it will take for the sheeple to wake up and realize they have been robbed.

Pete....the lemmings just won't ever wake up.

They don't hold themselves accountable for the crass desire for cheap consumerism and they certainly won't hold corporate entities who deliver their cheap goods accountable either.

Without moribundly rambling on ... thems the facts.....

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way.

e_type_jag  posted on  2009-12-23   1:35:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: We The People (#52)

I am absolutely anti union. This country was founded upon the rights of the individual. Not rights granted or coerced as part of a group.

Spot on on this.

Gone are the days where unions guarded against sweatshops and locked doors from the outside......now it's all about greed within the worker drones (which leads to fork lift driver "careers" ending up at burdened retirement rates exceeding 50+ USD) and self importance amongst the shiftless union thug leaders.

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way.

e_type_jag  posted on  2009-12-23   1:39:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: e_type_jag (#58)

Gone are the days where unions guarded against sweatshops and locked doors from the outside......now it's all about greed within the worker drones (which leads to fork lift driver "careers" ending up at burdened retirement rates exceeding 50+ USD) and self importance amongst the shiftless union thug leaders.

You may have missed something......

Where I worked, the union leaders who cared about the workers (guarded against sweatshops) got hammered.

The union folk who went along with management got promotions to ... management positions.

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Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-23   1:47:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: e_type_jag (#59)

Don't take me wrong though. For the most part, the Union was just another layer of someone dictating to the workers.

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Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-23   1:50:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Ibluafartsky (#49)

Putting on caps and repetition doesn't make you any less wrong.

Stand Up, Men of the West!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgSdiX0kDI

Thor  posted on  2009-12-23   1:52:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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