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Title: Ford Offers Buyouts to All Factory Workers
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URL Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009 ... tm_source=feedburner&utm_mediu
Published: Dec 21, 2009
Author: cbsnews.com
Post Date: 2009-12-21 18:45:28 by WhiteSands
Keywords: Ford, Jobs, Taxes,OSHA,Carbon Taxes
Views: 13087
Comments: 154
(AP) Ford Motor Co. says it is offering buyout and early retirement incentives to all of its 41,000 U.S. hourly workers to further reduce its factory work force. Company spokesman Mark Truby said Ford still has too many factory workers for its current sales levels. He would not say how many workers the company wants to leave but said Ford is working that out with the United Auto Workers union. Ford currently has about 600 blue-collar workers laid off but available for recall. The buyout offer includes $50,000 cash plus a $25,000 car voucher or $20,000 more in cash. The retirement package includes $40,000 cash for skilled trades and $20,000 for production workers.
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#1. To: All (#0)
If the plan is doing a "Circuit City" by replacing high paid with new low paid this sucks. If the plan is to move to another Nation then God Bless 'em.
----------------------------------------------------------- ALL??????? Sounds like they are getting ready to bail. Or at least shut down production in the US.
NWO!!!!
Death to everybody who does not get outta my way.
NWO!!!! Another step down that path,for sure. At this point we HAVE to stop and wonder just exactly what it will take for the sheeple to wake up and realize they have been robbed. Obviously hearing the news on tv and seeing their neighbors and relatives lose their jobs and houses isn't a big enough clue for them. I'm beginning to think the typical American is so clueless they will never wake up. They are little more than drones.
If the plan is to move to another Nation then God Bless 'em. How does your first statement differ from your second? Obviously if they move to another nation they would be replacing high paid workers with low paid ones. By firing a large group of workers here I'm unclear on who will be able to afford to buy their cars here. This is the fatal flaw of outsourcing jobs.
The only way Ford will survive is to get rid of all Union members. I can't blame them one bit. Kill off the Union, because their use is long, long gone, and lets get back to a free market.
I disagree. We should kill the global free market, kill free trade. Free Trade is responsible for the decline of the American auto industry. Once you eliminated tariffs, you eliminated the protection of American wages and jobs. You are corect. In a free global market, it is impossible for American workers to have good wages and benefits when it is so much more profitable to ship off shore and pay mexicans, brazilians, and chinese fractions of what they paid Americans. To protect jobs in America, you need to make it unprofitable to go elsewhere. That is what tariffs do.
Stand Up, Men of the West!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgSdiX0kDI
Damn right. Sweat shops were good enough for our ancestors and they should be good enough for us. After all, in a free market that's what were competing against. Along the same line, let's get rid of those ridiculous child labor laws too. Let the little bastards earn their keep. Why should they be treated any better than their counterparts in the Third World?
PFT- The UAW is a HUGE part of the problem in Michigan. No one- who has lived in Michigan, and known anyone employed by any of the auto makers is at all surprised by what has happened. I could have predicted when I was grade school. The Unions there killed the Auto makers. There are no sweat shops- but they may have to actually work and do it without a nanny. Worse things happen to Americans all of the time.
Not without the full cooperation of the automakers themselves.
Who were threatened and harassed and bullied.
Poor guys. No wonder they were so underpaid at what, $20 million per year or so? I would have been willing to run their companies into the ground for a mere $1 million per year.
That is what socialism does- it helps people destroy business and all that flourishes from healthy business. Ford might be the last great hope of a free people. After they get rid of the nannies and entitlement slaves, that is. Let them dump the unions and get back to work- and let the businesspeople make business... and everyone who is connected with Ford will eat and be merry, from the top down to the janitor who empty the garbage from the offices.
Unions didn't kill Detroit, that is free traitor nonsense pushed by the GOP establishment. When unionization of the workforce was at it's highest rates during the 1960s when GM profitability was also at it's highest. So this nonsense that paying a first world wages to skilled workers caused the bankruptcy of GM has no basis. What protected those wages and jobs were tariffs, once you lost those, it became more profitable to go to China or Brazil and pay third worlders peanuts.
Stand Up, Men of the West!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgSdiX0kDI
My point on this thread was in response to Whitey who seemed to imply that Ford moving operations overseas was a good thing. It's not, because people here have to be able to make a decent wage to be able to afford things like new cars.
Why does Whitey hate America?
Well, I dunno that post of yours doesnt seem logical to me. I will tell you why. I was born and raised in Motor city. My Dad was a lifetime Ford employee. Everyone I know from my childhood is connected with one of the automakers in someway. It is sort of a way of life for many people in the Metro Detroit area. I could have told you the difference between union and non Union Auto workers from the time I was about 7. So that is my POV. Unions are not good for business and therefore are not good for paychecks and therefore are not good for employment, and therefore are not good for the economy. I learned that when I was a babe in arms. Your mileage may vary- and prolly does. ;)
Because it's not Israel?
I think that depends on the union. For government unions, you're absolutely right. For private industry, it depends.
Hmm.. ok, I can give you that. :) And I was referring there to the UAW, I should have said that. Perhaps the cotton Union is good, I don't really know anything about them. FWIW_ Any experience I have had with Unions comes from that part of Michigan, where socialists will find any way to destroy the idea of *getting work done*. I am the kind of person who likes to get work done and not have my day all messed up with the politics of getting out of work- so I get a little testy around the word *union*. ;)
Not without the full cooperation of the automakers themselves. ......and a large segment of the US population that bought and continue to buy imports and support foreign manufacturers.
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
I don't care how old you are, your version of events simply doesn't coincide with the facts that GM had it's highest rates of profitability in the 60s when unionization was at it's highest rates. What happened to Detroit has nothing to do with workers getting together and demanding a decent wage. IT has to do with free trade.
Stand Up, Men of the West!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgSdiX0kDI
It has to do with 'American' consumers purchasing and supporting imports and their manufacturers. We Americans have choices. No one that I have knowledge of was forced to purchase or support Japanese and German auto makers.
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
Bullshit, you don't have a choice when most manufacturing has been shipped overseas and you lost your high paying manufacturing job and any cheap affordable car is foreign. Though, at least your argument isn't as bad as other free traitors. You know their are no merits, and won't argue that their are. But you are a blind global capitalist ideologue that puts your suicidal theories before what's best for the nation.
Stand Up, Men of the West!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgSdiX0kDI
You're a typical fookin retard. We had choices and still do. If I manufacture a widget in Topeka, Kansas, paying a living wage to my workers, and the workers can buy a widget manufactured in Japan for less money and they do, how fookin stupid do you have to be to not realize by buying imported widgets, you are jeopardizing your own employment.
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
No, you are the short sighted one. Stop drinking the GOP kool aid and look at reality. You are looking at the effects of free trade. Such a situation wouldn't exist with tariffs in a protectionist system. Tariffs make it unprofitable to move offshore because off the huge taxes levied on foreign goods brought into the country. Of course, once you eliminate those tariffs, it becomes much more profitable to move to the third world where you can pay mexicans or chinese pennies on the dollar. That is what American manfacturers who wished to go international lobbied for, and they got their wish. Tariffs were what made America strong and built America into an economic superpower. Tariffs protected American jobs and wages from cheap third world labor.
Stand Up, Men of the West!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgSdiX0kDI
I'll bet you drive an import and are a cheap fooker who buys cheap crap that supports foreign manufacturers. You make the choice to buy or not to buy. Americans support foreign manufacturers.
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
A cheap fooker? What the hell is a fooker? The fact is, you didn't disprove a single thing I said. The choice Americans have is the same choice we will have in regards to government mandates to buy private insurance. IT isn't a choice when you have a low paying service job when your high oaying manufacturing jobs were shipped overseas due to elimination of tariffs and your choice is between a cheaper foreign car and a more expensive ar that claims to be made in the USA. Bt even if you buy a Ford, it is about as American as a Toyota. Both have assembly plants here, but the fact is most of the parts of your car are made in third world countries like Mexico because with elimination of tariffs it is much cheaper and more profitable for the company to do so. Your pro free trade position is a minority position that is pretty much only held by east coast money managers, neo con academics, GOP and Democratic Leadership, and multinational corporate management. Most americans want renegotiation of trade deals and want fair trade.
Stand Up, Men of the West!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgSdiX0kDI
You're so fookin stupid you can't comprehend the simple concept of choice. Go ahead and buy imported shit. Then bitch and moan about no jobs! Fookin morons! Free Trade does not inhibit Free Choice, IDIOT!
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
No, the fact is, you aren't able to understand basic economics. I know you have contempt for working Americans, the Republican party(as has the Democratic Party since the 60s) has always been the enemy of the White American working class, but you are letting that hate blind any reason you have. You keep talking about this choice, as though there are any cars mostly made in America and that money just grows on trees for most Americans, it just isn't the case. One has no choice financially when they are are stuck in lower paying service jobs to just splurge and spend an extra 5,000 bucks on a car assembled in America but with parts built in Mexico; they are already living pay check to paycheck. The jobs are gone because former American but now multinational companies shipped jobs to the third world once tariffs were eliminated. It wasn't Americans' fault, it was the fault of politicians who voted the way of the corporate lobbies.
Stand Up, Men of the West!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgSdiX0kDI
Well, what I know from personal experience is that based upon the Union mentally, people predicted that Ford would be the last ones standing- as long as far back as 20 years ago when I was a kid. So call it a co-inky dink.. but I don't know anyone, who lived in the environment in Metro Detroit, who is surprised that Ford is the last one standing. The Unions killed the Auto makers.
You keep talking about this choice, You fookin moron, I have contempt for you fookin assholes who abandoned the American worker when YOU decided to buy imported shit. You're guilty! You're too fookin greedy and stupid to support US manufacturers and workers. You and those like you have brought this country down to the level it is today. I detest you despicable, whining, stupid, fookin idiots! I'm not holding your hand!
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
Wow, you are angry, I think I have hit a nerve. No, the multinational corporations and the corrupt politicians of the Democrat and Republican ilk who line their pockets with their lobbies' dollars are to blame. They eliminated tariffs, thereby eliminating protections against third world labor on American jobs and wages. The sad truth is, you care more about adherence to suicidal global capitalism than you do about the welfare of the American worker.
Stand Up, Men of the West!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgSdiX0kDI
Not to mention the ever higher mountain of regulations continually coming out of the District of Criminals.
They eliminated tariffs the welfare of the American worker. You're so fookin stupid you probably hit yourself in the head with a club and then declare how much better you feel when you stop! They didn't force you cheap assholes to buy foreign shit, did they? The truth is you cheap fellators killed the American worker. You are GUILTY!
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
LOL! Guess who else says this all the time yukon? You guessed it.......YUKON! LMAOAY illegal alien!
Wow, now the American worker is a cheap asshole. However, I am not surprised of your attitudes towards the average working white American; as those are the attitudes of the GOP leadership. Your contempt for the average working American living pay check to pay check is wrong and unpatriotic.
Stand Up, Men of the West!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgSdiX0kDI
Not to mention the ever higher mountain of regulations continually coming out of the District of Criminals. Protections? You as a consumer need protections? You don't have the fookin brainpower to see that buying foreign shit is going to eliminate US production? You are a product of either retardation, failed parenting and public education, or all of the aforementioned.
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
average working white American living pay check to pay check If the glove fits, wear it. You're guilty as charged. No one forced you cheap assholes to buy foreign shit, did they? Are you now claiming all "average working white American" are fookin morons like you? You are to blame. You choose to buy cheap imported shit and put your fellow workers on unemployment!
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
That's not even what was said, idiot! You do know why you have to spin everything right?
Which one? I sure get a charge out of your attempts at changing the subject when you have been What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
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Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#2. To: WhiteSands (#0)
Ford Motor Co. says it is offering buyout and early retirement incentives to all of its 41,000 U.S. hourly workers to further reduce its factory work force.
#3. To: sneakypete (#2)
Or at least shut down production in the US.
#4. To: e_type_jag (#3)
Or at least shut down production in the US.
#5. To: WhiteSands (#1)
If the plan is doing a "Circuit City" by replacing high paid with new low paid this sucks.
#6. To: WhiteSands (#0)
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#7. To: diva betsy ross (#6)
#8. To: diva betsy ross (#6)
Kill off the Union, because their use is long, long gone, and lets get back to a free market.
#9. To: Bickus Dickus (#8)
#10. To: diva betsy ross (#9)
The Unions there killed the Auto makers.
#11. To: Bickus Dickus (#10)
#12. To: diva betsy ross (#11)
Who were threatened and harassed and bullied.
#13. To: Bickus Dickus (#12)
#14. To: diva betsy ross (#9)
#15. To: diva betsy ross (#13)
#16. To: Bickus Dickus (#15)
#17. To: Thor (#14)
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#18. To: Fred Mertz (#16)
Why does Whitey hate America?
#19. To: diva betsy ross (#17)
Unions are not good for business and therefore are not good for paychecks and therefore are not good for employment
#20. To: Bickus Dickus (#19)
#21. To: Bickus Dickus, diva betsy ross (#10)
The Unions there killed the Auto makers.
#22. To: diva betsy ross (#17)
#23. To: Thor (#22)
IT has to do with free trade.
#24. To: Ibluafartsky (#23)
#25. To: Thor (#24)
Bullshit, you don't have a choice
#26. To: Ibluafartsky (#25)
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#27. To: Thor (#26)
No, you are the short sighted one.
#28. To: Ibluafartsky (#27)
#29. To: Thor (#28)
The fact is, you didn't disprove a single thing I said.
#30. To: Ibluafartsky (#29)
#31. To: Thor (#22)
#32. To: Thor (#30)
I know you have contempt for working Americans
#33. To: Ibluafartsky (#32)
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#34. To: Thor (#33)
No, the multinational corporations and the corrupt politicians of the Democrat and Republican ilk who line their pockets with their lobbies' dollars are to blame. They eliminated tariffs, thereby eliminating protections against third world labor on American jobs and wages.
#35. To: Thor (#33)
I think I have hit a nerve.
#36. To: Ibluafartsky (#32)
I'm not holding your hand!
#37. To: Ibluafartsky (#35)
#38. To: We The People (#34)
thereby eliminating protections against third world labor on American jobs and wages.
#39. To: Thor (#37)
Wow, now the American worker is a cheap asshole.
#40. To: Ibluafartsky (#38)
Protections? You as a consumer need protections?
#41. To: We The People (#36)
You guessed it.......YUKON!
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