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"Why Young Americans Are Not Taught about Evil" Status: Not Logged In; Sign In United States News See other United States News Articles Title: US company linked to Russian oligarch paid $500,000 to Cohen Source: CNN URL Source: https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/08/poli ... garch-payment-cohen/index.html Published: May 9, 2018 Author: MJ Lee, Kara Scannell and Marshall Cohen Post Date: 2018-05-09 07:27:27 by Jameson Keywords: Where did, all that, money go? Views: 2782 Comments: 41 Avenatti alleged that Cohen received the following payments after the 2016 election: approximately half-a-million dollars from a company linked to Viktor Vekselberg, a Russian oligarch with close ties to the Kremlin; nearly $400,000 from pharmaceutical giant Novartis; $150,000 from Korea Aerospace Industries and $200,000 from telecommunications conglomerate AT&T. The payments were made to the same bank account that Cohen had created in 2016 to execute the now infamous hush payment to Daniels, Avenatti said. The stakes are sky-high for Cohen, who is currently under a federal criminal investigation by the US attorney's office in Manhattan and had his home, hotel room and office raided last month. Click for Full Text! Poster Comment: Over / Under for Number of days until we read that Cohen is now cooperating with Mueller's investigation: 16 place your bets! Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: Jameson (#0) Over / Under for Number of days until we read that Cohen is now cooperating with Mueller's investigation: 16 place your bets! Two bits on the under! Cohen would be stupid to not cooperate with Mueller, considering that his records and papers were seized and are now being used by Muellers investigation. He can sue later, after Muellers investigation is declared a witch hunt.. tpaine  posted on  2018-05-09   8:23:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: tpaine (#1) Cohen would be stupid to not cooperate with Mueller Half a million from the Russians, $800k from AT&T, Novartis and Korea Aerospace - ShitHole Donnie admitted to giving Cohen hundreds of Thousands$$ Where did all that money go? To whom? Why? Jameson  posted on  2018-05-09   8:39:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: Jameson (#2) Half a million from the Russians, $800k from AT&T, Novartis and Korea Aerospace - ShitHole Donnie admitted to giving Cohen hundreds of Thousands$$ Where did all that money go? To whom? Why? No doubt we'll find out that only those suffering with delusions about Trump give a shit.. Get medical help Jamie boy.... tpaine  posted on  2018-05-09   9:05:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: Jameson (#2) Donnie admitted to giving Cohen hundreds of Thousands$$ Not that it's anyone's business, but Trump paid his attorney $35,000 per month as a retainer -- way before the porn star demanded hush money. That money was to be used at the attorney's discretion in service to his client. The monthly retainer continues to be paid. misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-09   9:07:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: tpaine (#3) only those suffering with delusions about Trump give a shit.. I guess you'll be taking the "over" Jameson  posted on  2018-05-09   9:16:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: misterwhite (#4) in service to his client we'll soon know for what DD45 was paying..... Jameson  posted on  2018-05-09   9:19:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: Jameson (#5) I guess you'll be taking the "over" Read much? See #1.... tpaine  posted on  2018-05-09   9:20:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: Jameson (#6) (Edited) we'll soon know for what DD45 was paying..... Anything and everything as deemed necessary by his attorney. The public has n no "right to know" about private matters between Trump and his attorney, or how m much Trump is paying his attorney, or what the money is used for. Had Trump u used campaign funds (which he didn't), that would be different. misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-09   9:48:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: tpaine (#7) Read much? Clearly not! Jameson  posted on  2018-05-09   9:52:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: misterwhite (#8) Anything and everything as deemed necessary by his attorney. The public has n no "right to know" about private matters between Trump and his attorney, or how m much Trump is paying his attorney, or what the money is used for. Considering Mr. Cohen is under investigation for Bank and Wire fraud and Campaign finance violations....and considering that a federal judge signed a search warrant for his records.... It might be reasonable to conclude that the money given to Cohen might not have been used for proper purposes.... SH Donnie is greasy as is his family and his "fixer" Jameson  posted on  2018-05-09   10:00:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: misterwhite (#8) More from Noah Feldman @ Bloomberg; Essential Consultants LLC, received a total of $4.4 million in payments from a range of sources with an interest in influencing Trump, including the pharma giant Novartis AG, Korea Aerospace Industries Ltd. and AT&T Inc., seeking to pull off its merger with Time Warner Inc. Jameson  posted on  2018-05-09   10:39:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: Jameson (#0) Avenatti alleged that Cohen received the following payments after the 2016 election: approximately half-a-million dollars from a company linked to Viktor Vekselberg, a Russian oligarch with close ties to the Kremlin What the hell is that? Is it like six degrees of Kevin Bacon? That sort of tabloid crap is all they got? Over / Under for Number of days until we read that Cohen is now cooperating with Mueller's investigation: 16 place your bets! Bet taken. Mueller is imploding. Anything Mueller can do can be undone by Trump. The Concord Management case is scheduled to proceed this afternoon over prosecution objections slapped down by the judge. Put up or shut up time is arriving. Discovery should be interesting. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5696155/Judge-slaps-Muellers-request-delay-Russian-troll-farm-case.html Blow for Mueller as judge slaps down his request for delay in Russian troll farm case By Keith Griffith For Dailymail.com Published: 01:57 EDT, 6 May 2018 Updated: 09:51 EDT, 6 May 2018 [excerpt] In a motion late Friday, Mueller’s prosecutors disclosed that Concord’s attorneys, DC-based Eric Dubelier and Kate Seikaly, had made a slew of discovery requests demanding nonpublic details about the case and the investigation. The prosecutors asked the court for a delay in order to determine whether Concord had been properly served, and verify that Dubelier and Seikaly were authorized to represent the company. The defense attorneys blasted back in a response to the motion on Saturday, accusing the Mueller team of 'pettifoggery'. 'Defendant voluntarily appeared through counsel as provided for in [federal rules], and further intends to enter a plea of not guilty,' the filing read. 'Defendant has not sought a limited appearance nor has it moved to quash the summons. As such, the briefing sought by the Special Counsel’s motion is pettifoggery.' Judge Friedrich's order means the arraignment will continue as scheduled on Wednesday. The three companies named in the indictment are all reportedly controlled by Yevgeny Prigozhin, a Russian businessman known as Russian President Vladimir Putin's 'chef'. nolu chan  posted on  2018-05-09   13:24:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: nolu chan (#12) What the hell is that? Is it like six degrees of Kevin Bacon? Yes, I'm fairly sure that the efforts to connect one player to another in this case is being hampered by all those Russian names with the extra consonants and the lack of vowels..... Mueller is imploding Over / Under on # of months remaining before Mueller files final report: 9 Over / Under on # of months remaining before Mike Pence is sworn in as POTUS: 5 Jameson  posted on  2018-05-09   13:34:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: Jameson (#13) Over / Under on # of months remaining before Mike Pence is sworn in as POTUS: 5 Boy, I'd sure take that bet if I thought I had any chance of collecting. no gnu taxes  posted on  2018-05-09   14:05:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #15. To: no gnu taxes (#14) Boy, I'd sure take that bet if I thought I had any chance of collecting. Good point - I'd bet (pun intended) that there is some anonymous clearing service for just this type of.....transaction..... Jameson  posted on  2018-05-09   14:25:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: Jameson (#0) The source of the story/leak, is Stormy Weathers Liar. It is reported almost exclusively on CNN, MSNBC and NBC. YUP take this to the bank. THIS IS A TAG LINE...Exercising rights is only radical to two people, Tyrants and Slaves. Which are YOU? Our ignorance has driven us into slavery and we do not recognize it. jeremiad  posted on  2018-05-09   14:31:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: Jameson (#15) I'd bet (pun intended) that there is some anonymous clearing service for just this type of.....transaction..... If there was, i don't think I would trust them. I don't trust 95% of online books anyway. Trump will be around until at least 2020. So learn to love it. no gnu taxes  posted on  2018-05-09   14:33:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #18. To: nolu chan (#12) Judge Friedrich's order means the arraignment will continue as scheduled on Wednesday. She was appointed by Trump in December after 10 years on the federal sentencing commission. Yale Law. This is the second time she's giving Mueller a major headache in a single week. A ready demonstration of why Trump appointing so many judges bears out in real-life results. He had ~120 vacancies to fill the day he was sworn in and he's filling ongoing retirements as well. McConnell just confirmed another half-dozen and has another half-dozen up for a vote this week. McConnell is talking like he'll fill every vacancy by the end of the Senate current term. Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-09   14:46:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: Jameson (#10) It might be reasonable to conclude that the money given to Cohen might not have been used for proper purposes.... The money given to Cohen from whom? He got approximately half-a-million dollars from a company linked to Viktor Vekselberg, nearly $400,000 from Novartis, $150,000 from Korea Aerospace Industries and $200,000 from AT&T. But you're suggesting that, of all that money given to him, Cohen improperly used only the money he got from Trump? misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-09   15:01:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #20. To: jeremiad (#16) Stormy Weathers Close, Stormy Daniels... If I had to pick which person I believe, I would pick Ms. Clifford over SH45 who is an habitual lying-sack-of-shit, It is reported almost exclusively on CNN, MSNBC and NBC Yeah, look a little further, you'll find that the story has been verified and published by almost every news source except....faux news Jameson  posted on  2018-05-09   15:07:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: Jameson (#11) "Essential Consultants LLC, received a total of $4.4 million in payments from a range of sources with an interest in influencing Trump" Or one can say, "Essential Consultants LLC, received a total of $4.4 million in payments from a range of sources with an interest in legal work." You got squat. You got money flowing into Essential Consultants LLC, but no proof that any of their money went to Trump to buy his influence. misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-09   15:09:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #22. To: misterwhite (#19) But you're suggesting that, of all that money given to him, Cohen improperly used only the money he got from Trump? No. I'm suggesting that he was laundering all the cash and paying off/buying off individuals other than just Stormy.... As the story develops, it is becoming clear that Mr. Cohen was selling access to the WH - "Novartis paid Trump lawyer Michael Cohen $1.2 million for advice on Obamacare – work he was unable to do..." https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/09/novartis-paid-trumps-lawyer-michael-cohen-more- than-1-million-for-work-he-was-unable-to-do-company-says.html I saw one article that put the $ figure "received" by Cohen at $4 - $5 million in the past year and a half.. From various sources and all funneled through the shell company he set up for the purpose of paying off Stormy... A rational person would look at this situation and conclude that there is some greasy shit going on, and Mr. Cohen is up to his eyes in all of it. Jameson  posted on  2018-05-09   15:18:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #23. To: misterwhite (#21) but no proof that any of their money went to Trump to buy his influence. I think you can understand that this is what the investigation is all about. Are you really trying to defend a sleazy wannabe thug lawyer who refers to himself as a "fixer"? Do you really believe that he was performing any service of value for the "retainers" he was collecting? Bribes and pay-offs is what this smells like....... Jameson  posted on  2018-05-09   15:22:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #24. To: Jameson (#23) Are you really trying to defend a sleazy wannabe thug lawyer who refers to himself as a "fixer"? He doesn't need defending and you haven't given me a reason to. "Do you really believe that he was performing any service of value for the "retainers" he was collecting?" Of course, if Ms. Porn Star is any example. misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-09   16:23:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #25. To: Jameson (#22) "I'm suggesting that he was laundering all the cash and paying off/buying off individuals other than just Stormy...." Laundering? First I've heard of it. As for paying off/buying off individuals who may be an embarrassment to his clients, that was part of his job. Nothing illegal about that. misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-09   16:26:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #26. To: Jameson (#23) I think you can understand that this is what the investigation is all about. You bet. The prosecutor develops some conspiracy theory about Trump with zero evidence, then goes about trying to prove that theory with search warrants and subpoenas. They call that a "fishing expedition". misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-09   16:31:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #27. To: Jameson (#0) The far left's shit slinging is just another crash and burn effort to claim something that isn't. Trump is crushing the left and never trumpers and they are doing all the work for him! Trump just killed a 150billion dollar deal to Iran which was suppose to pay Russia for its work in Iran put forth by the leftist. Everywhere the these morons go Trump is crushing them handily. Its to the point the leftist and never trumpers are just an embarrassment to America! Keep it up because Trumps polls keep rising. Americans are starting to see how messed up the leftist and never trumpers are!! ROFLMAO Justified  posted on  2018-05-09   17:47:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #28. To: Jameson (#13) I'm fairly sure that the efforts to connect one player to another in this case is being hampered by all those Russian names with the extra consonants and the lack of vowels..... Something sure has Avenatti confused. http://amp.dailycaller.com/2018/05/09/avenatti-michael-cohen-israel/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=site-share&__twitter_impression=true Avenatti Accuses The Wrong Michael Cohens Of Making ‘Fraudulent’ Payments Chuck Ross The Daily Caller May 9th, 2018 Michael Avenatti, porn star Stormy Daniels’ lawyer, released a seven-page dossier on Tuesday containing a list of payments purportedly made to Michael Cohen, the lawyer for President Donald Trump. But there is one problem with the document: two of the allegedly “fraudulent” payments were made to men named Michael Cohen who have no affiliation with Trump. [snip] nolu chan  posted on  2018-05-09   20:01:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #29. To: Jameson, misterwhite (#22) I'm suggesting that he was laundering all the cash and paying off/buying off individuals other than just Stormy.... Arranging and making payment for a Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA) is not a violation of law. nolu chan  posted on  2018-05-09   20:02:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #30. To: Tooconservative (#18) This is the second time she's giving Mueller a major headache in a single week. I believe the other headache was given in Virginia by Judge Thomas Selby Ellis III in the US District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia. Judge Ellis, an African-American Reagan appointee, questioned whether Mueller's investigation had exceeded its lawful scope and wants production of an unredacted copy of the Rosenstein "Scope Letter" for court review. nolu chan  posted on  2018-05-09   20:15:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #31. To: Jameson (#28) https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/09/mueller-russia-probe-concord-management-pleads-not-guilty-578535 Russian firm pleads not guilty in Mueller election case By Josh Gerstein Politico 05/09/2018 03:44 PM EDT A Russian company tied to a close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin entered a not-guilty plea Wednesday in a U.S. criminal case charging that it funded internet trolls and polarizing social media advertisements in a bid to boost Donald Trump's chances of winning the 2016 presidential election. [...] "We waive formal reading of the indictment and enter a plea of not guilty and exercise our right to a speedy trial," Dubelier told U.S. Magistrate Judge G. Michael Harvey. Prosecutors had raised concerns about whether the lawyers could appear for the firm without accepting a formal summons in the case, but Harvey said federal court rules permit a corporation to appear through a lawyer. [...] Prosecutors last week asked that the arraignment be delayed by more than a month, but U.S. District Court Judge Dabney Friedrich rejected that request. During the hearing Wednesday, prosecutor Jeannie Rhee said her office obtained information from the Treasury Department's Office of Foreign Assets Control that Dubelier's firm was representing both Concord Management and a related company known as Concord Catering, raising questions about whether he was appearing in court for both businesses. Harvey suggested he found that interesting, but not particularly relevant to Wednesday's arraignment. "OK, what would you like me to do with that?" the magistrate asked Rhee. Dubelier said he wasn't authorized to appear in court for Concord Catering, a firm which he contended should never have been listed in the indictment returned in February. "The government indicted a proverbial ham sandwich — somebody that didn't exist ... at the time period alleged by the government," the defense attorney said. [snip] It appears Mueller and the Keystone Kops indicted Concord Catering for alleged crimes it allegedly committed before it existed as a corporate entity. nolu chan  posted on  2018-05-09   23:18:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #32. To: nolu chan (#31) It appears Mueller and the Keystone Kops indicted Concord Catering for alleged crimes it allegedly committed before it existed as a corporate entity. What a stench that case will have for any judge or for the prosecutors. Bad for both, career-wise. Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-09   23:46:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #33. To: Tooconservative (#32) I reckon they will drop the charges rather than provide discovery material. nolu chan  posted on  2018-05-09   23:54:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #34. To: nolu chan (#33) I reckon they will drop the charges rather than provide discovery material. That also doesn't look good on the resume. And it'll provoke some Trumptweets about #FakeProsecutions being reported on by #FakeNews CNN. I've read that Mueller may put his entire investigation on hold until after the 2018 midterms. It makes me wonder if Mueller will finish investigating before Trump leaves office. Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-10   0:21:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #35. To: Tooconservative (#34) That also doesn't look good on the resume. They screwed up the indictments. They never intended to go to trial. They did not prepare for a real trial. They expected the Russian defendants to not show up. This was for the press only. Some incompetent nitwit named a few corporate entities as defendants, as well as the real people associated with the corporate entities. The real people ain't coming. As a legal fiction, the corporate entities are distinctly separate legal persons. They do not have to show up in the flesh, but may do so by their attorney. The attorneys for a corporate entity showed up, pleaded not guilty, and demanded a speedy trial. It's an aw shit moment. Last week, they argued for a month delay because they were not sure the corporation had been properly served. This while the corporation was present in the court via its attorneys arguing to proceed. The judge's response amounted to "Come on, man." nolu chan  posted on  2018-05-10   0:50:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #36. To: nolu chan (#35) As a legal fiction, the corporate entities are distinctly separate legal persons. They do not have to show up in the flesh, but may do so by their attorney. The attorneys for a corporate entity showed up, pleaded not guilty, and demanded a speedy trial. It's an aw shit moment. I thought I detected a note of sarcasm from the judge when shooting them down on this obvious ploy to delay/distract. Almost like they're desperate to keep their legal fictions alive for a little longer, even at the risk of professional embarrassment at the case they had brought. The judge's response amounted to "Come on, man." I think this is the Phrase Of The Year for all the legal types out there, at least the conservative ones. Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-10   1:10:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #37. To: Tooconservative (#36) Avenatti, or the person who unlawfully leaked bank records of Michael Cohen to Avenatti, may also be headed for trouble. The Treasury Department has opened an investigation. The source screwed up in giving the records to Avenatti rather than a journalist. If a court orders him to identify his source, unlike a journalist Avenatti has no 1st Amendment claim available to protect his source. nolu chan  posted on  2018-05-10   12:11:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #38. To: nolu chan (#37) Welcome back Chan! redleghunter  posted on  2018-05-10   13:10:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #39. To: redleghunter (#38) Welcome back Chan! Thanks. In case you missed it elsewhere, after a few months of delay (long story), I had an aortic valve replacement and five way bypass. Ugh. Still healing up. nolu chan  posted on  2018-05-10   18:23:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #40. To: nolu chan (#37) Cohen's a flake and graduated from the worst law school in the entire country but Avenatti is pretty dicey too. BigLeaguePolitics: Stormy Daniels’ Lawyer Owes Over $5 Million In Back Taxes Avenatti is a major scumbag. Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-11   0:38:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #41. To: nolu chan (#39) Thanks. In case you missed it elsewhere, after a few months of delay (long story), I had an aortic valve replacement and five way bypass. Ugh. Still healing up. Yes missed it as I don't come here often lately. I will look up your post. I am glad the surgery went well and just offered prayer for your speedy recovery. We missed you! redleghunter  posted on  2018-05-12   11:26:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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