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"Why Young Americans Are Not Taught about Evil" Status: Not Logged In; Sign In United States News See other United States News Articles Title: We filed a complaint about Trump’s ethics Source: WAPO URL Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news ... ssible/?utm_term=.898b3d7aa2f5 Published: May 4, 2018 Author: Norman Eisen and Noah Bookbinder Post Date: 2018-05-04 08:09:27 by Jameson Keywords: The, End, Is Near Views: 2868 Comments: 32 Our watchdog group filed a complaint with the Department of Justice and the Office of Government Ethics on Thursday, asking officials to investigate whether Giuliani’s disclosures show that Trump violated federal ethics laws or laws against making false statements. The Ethics in Government Act requires filers of public financial disclosure forms, including the president, to disclose any liabilities worth more than $10,000. Giuliani repeatedly acknowledged on Wednesday and Thursday that Trump owed Cohen $250,000, accounting for the $130,000 payment to Daniels and associated taxes and fees. But Trump’s public financial disclosure report last summer didn’t list any debts to Cohen. A knowing failure to report such a debt constitutes a federal crime, and failure to properly report that liability can result in penalties up to $50,000, as well as imprisonment. Moreover, lying on a financial disclosure report can be the basis for federal false statements charges under 18 USC 1001. ...thanks to Giuliani’s catastrophic performance, yet another fresh start for Trump’s legal team has been squandered. The president and his attorneys are running empty on credibility. Replenishing it becomes impossible at some point after repeated miscues. If prosecutors, judges and even the American people no longer believe what Trump and his lawyers say is true, they will assume the worst. Contrasted with the methodical and straightforward approach of the Department of Justice, this is beginning to feel like a war that the president is not going to win. Click for Full Text! Poster Comment: But seriously, this is all an evil plan put in motion by Soros, the Clintons and some Kenyan guy.... No, really! They're all lying!!!! Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: Jameson (#0) If prosecutors, judges and even the American people no longer believe what Trump and his lawyers say is true, they will assume the worst. See here is your problem we do not give a shit about stupid shit! Trump at his worst will be a billion times more honest than the regressives. Trump show the world who your piles of shit really are and you do all the work!!! Keep up the good work America needs to know who its enemies are! Justified  posted on  2018-05-04   8:30:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: Justified (#1) (Edited) ...the American people no longer believe what Trump and his lawyers say is true..." How about you Dr.? Do you believe what SS45 spews? Jameson  posted on  2018-05-04   8:42:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: Justified (#1) we do not give a shit about stupid shit! You elected "Stupid Shit" SS45!! Jameson  posted on  2018-05-04   8:48:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: Jameson (#0) Trump pays a $35,000 monthly retainer to his attorney to be used for whatever. That money comes from him, not his campaign. misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-04   8:54:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: Jameson (#0) But Trump’s public financial disclosure report last summer didn’t list any debts to Cohen. A knowing failure to report such a debt constitutes a federal crime, And what does that have to do with Russian interference in the election?" FISHING EXPEDITION! misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-04   8:55:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: Jameson (#3) Yes We the people elected someone who wasn't a Regressive. We are getting what we want from Trump. This is why people like you are freaking out and trying to bring Trump down by any illegal means necessary constitution be damned! You would have been happy to get Clinton the worlds super crook! Give me a billion trumps over one Clinton any day!! Justified  posted on  2018-05-04   9:03:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: Jameson (#2) ...the American people no longer believe what Trump and his lawyers say is true..." How about you Dr.? Gee Trump may have lied about an affair and an extortion payment compared to MSM and Regressives who never tells the truth? Let me think about that?/s Justified  posted on  2018-05-04   9:05:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: misterwhite (#4) to be used for whatever. According to Rudy-Patootie and SS45, the "retainer" was used to repay the hush money to Cohen.... and The Feds already have the records supporting this explanation from Cohen's files.... Jameson  posted on  2018-05-04   9:06:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: misterwhite (#5) And what does that have to do with Russian interference in the election?" Actually, nothing....which is why Mr. Mueller referred this matter to the Manhattan Federal Court. Jameson  posted on  2018-05-04   9:09:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: Jameson (#9) And what does that have to do with Russian interference in the election?" Actually, nothing.... Exactly. A fishing expedition to find something, anything on Trump to take him down. This is and has been unconstitutional once Clinton's and DNC fake document was illegally used to get warrants. I hope Trump crushes the FBI and DOJ heads for their unconstitutional acts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Justified  posted on  2018-05-04   9:20:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: Jameson (#8) According to Rudy-Patootie and SS45, the "retainer" was used to repay the hush money to Cohen.... I'm sure it was. That and many other things, all of them (supposedly) private. At $35,000 per month, Trump is paying his attorney $420,000 per year, every year. The porn star's piece was $130,000. Gosh, maybe we need to audit his attorney, huh? This was Trump's money given as a retainer to his attorney, to be used at his attorney's discretion. misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-04   9:21:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: Jameson (#9) Actually, nothing....which is why Mr. Mueller referred this matter to the Manhattan Federal Court. Because he had evidence of a crime? What crime? What evidence? misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-04   9:23:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: Justified (#10) Actually, nothing.... Exactly. A fishing expedition Don't be dense... ....which is why Mr. Mueller referred this matter to the Manhattan Federal Court. Mr. Mueller has nothing to do with the investigation into Mr. Cohen's "activities" Jameson  posted on  2018-05-04   9:27:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: misterwhite (#11) Gosh, maybe we need to audit his attorney, huh? You're smart Frito! That's exactly why the FBI raided his offices...... Jameson  posted on  2018-05-04   9:28:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #15. To: misterwhite (#12) Because he had evidence of a crime? What crime? What evidence? Take it easy Mr. Instant gratification.... You'll find out when the indictments are served. Jameson  posted on  2018-05-04   9:30:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: Jameson (#15) Take it easy Mr. Instant gratification....you'll find out when the indictments are served. No. We'll find out if and when the investigators find something. Could be years. This is a witch hunt which meanders all over the place like a Roomba, looking for a crime to sweep up. Except the Roomba has more intelligence. misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-04   9:39:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: Jameson (#14) That's exactly why the FBI raided his offices...... Attorney-client privilege? What attorney-client privilege? misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-04   9:40:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #18. To: misterwhite (#17) What attorney-client privilege? Are you actually copying and pasting from SS45's tweets?? According to the crime-fraud exception to the privilege, a client's communication to their attorney isn't privileged if made with the intention of committing or covering up a crime or fraud. Jameson  posted on  2018-05-04   9:51:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: Jameson (#3) You elected "Stupid Shit" SS45!! And that's why you hate him. You wanted Conniving Cunt elected,and he beat your queen. Or at least one of your queens. Being a leftie Clintroid,you no doubt know a bunch of guys that are queens. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. sneakypete  posted on  2018-05-04   10:10:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #20. To: sneakypete (#19) You wanted Conniving Cunt elected Yeah, not really....however I was willing to vote for anyone except SS45 Jameson  posted on  2018-05-04   10:36:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: Jameson (#0) It wasn't a liability. It was a payment for services rendered. no gnu taxes  posted on  2018-05-04   10:48:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #22. To: no gnu taxes (#21) It was a payment for services rendered. You bet! Jameson  posted on  2018-05-04   10:59:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #23. To: Jameson (#13) You are the dense one here. If you can not see the illegality of what the special counsel is then you have rocks for brains. Once Comey/Mueller/Rosenstein found that the so called document was paid for by Clintons and not one fact could be verified they should have ended the investigation at that moment. Then jumped into the Clinton Obama scandal of Email server and the treasonous pay to play scam. But I see you would rather read about Stormy the porn ho than to worry about the illegal acts by the Regressives. Justified  posted on  2018-05-04   11:09:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #24. To: Jameson (#20) Yeah, not really....however I was willing to vote for anyone except SS45 I have to hear this reasoning? Trump was not my first choice but he has done more in one year than both bush's did in 12. That's fighting MSM and his own party. I'm thinking Trump deserves a place on Mount Rushmore!! Justified  posted on  2018-05-04   11:13:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #25. To: Justified (#24) I'm thinking Trump deserves a place on Mount Rushmore!! Ditto here! goldilucky  posted on  2018-05-04   11:38:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #26. To: Jameson (#18) According to the crime-fraud exception to the privilege, a client's communication to their attorney isn't privileged if made with the intention of committing or covering up a crime or fraud. How would anyone know there was "intention of committing or covering up a crime or fraud" without breaching the attorney-client privilege? It's a fishing expedition -- first look at the privileged communication, then determine if a crime has been committed. Let's search your house for illegal guns, porn, drugs, whatever. Then if we find something, we'll get a warrant. Sound good? misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-04   13:17:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #27. To: misterwhite (#26) It's a fishing expedition Please..... Release your grip on the talking points memo.... A federal judge signed the search warrants for this, knowing that there was a line that must not be crossed. The FBI was well aware of this line as well. Any privileged correspondence will be excluded. Try also to understand, the federal prosecutor already knows what he's looking for, it's not fishing, it's verification. Jameson  posted on  2018-05-04   13:31:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #28. To: Jameson (#27) Any privileged correspondence will be excluded. Unless it's leaked. "Try also to understand, the federal prosecutor already knows what he's looking for" Yes, he's looking for evidence of a crime, any crime, by combing through privileged communication between Trump and his lawyer. The only possible crime here would be if campaign funds were used to pay off the porn star. Does the federal prosecutor have proof of that? Or is he trying to find it? I call that a fishing expedition. misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-04   13:45:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #29. To: misterwhite (#28) The only possible crime here would be if campaign funds were used to pay off the porn star. It is extremely unlikely it happened. Trump is fighting his own party, the media, and the leftists now. no gnu taxes  posted on  2018-05-04   13:51:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #30. To: Jameson (#0) Title: We filed a complaint about Trump’s ethics But does anyone give a shite (other than the #FakeNews libmedia and their NeverTrumper allies)? Nope. FreeBeacon: The Quinnipiac University poll, released on Tuesday, found that a majority of voters, 58 percent, believe the affair actually did happen, compared to 14 percent who believe it did not happen... But a whopping 73 percent of voters said they do not believe the affair is an "important issue." That includes a majority of Democrats (51 percent), independents (79 percent) and Republicans (90 percent). Quinnipiac also asked about the $130,000 payment that Trump attorney Michael Cohen made to Daniels in 2016, which Daniels alleges was in exchange for her silence. A majority of voters, 59 percent, said they believe Trump knew about the payment, compared to 24 percent who said they believe Trump was not aware. But once again, the poll found that voters tended not to care whether or not the president knew about the payment. Fifty-nine percent of voters said whether or not Trump knew about the payment is not an important issue. "Yes he did it. No we don't care. A big yawn from voters on Stormy Daniels, President Trump, and the payoff," summarized Quinnipiac University poll assistant director Tim Malloy. Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-04   17:12:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #31. To: Tooconservative (#30) But does anyone give a shit? Nope Yeah, it's early wait until this fall. Jameson  posted on  2018-05-05   10:15:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #32. To: Jameson (#31) (Edited) There are indications that libmedia has vastly overplayed its hand, making Trump more sympathetic. Or the public are more likely to give him the benefit of the doubt. This is the problem when the media declares a partisan war. People just discount everything they say. The same happened with Reagan and with Kennedy. Sometimes the public prefers even a flawed prez to a cabal of libmedia and Congresscritters of various stripes. Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-05   11:14:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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