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Title: Saudi prince: Maybe the Palestinians should've taken the deals they were offered
Source: HotAir
URL Source: https://hotair.com/archives/2018/04 ... -shouldve-taken-deals-offered/
Published: Apr 30, 2018
Author: Ed Morrissey
Post Date: 2018-05-01 02:51:50 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 11077
Comments: 88

Or maybe they should stop sucking up to Iran. That’s the real subtext of the surprising rhetoric coming from Mohammed bin Salman, the young crown prince of Saudi Arabia who’s rewriting the Middle East script after seizing power in a family feud last year. Barak Ravid reports for Axios that MBS, as he’s colloquially known, told representatives of Jewish groups last month that while Saudi Arabia still wants a just and lasting settlement for the Palestinians, they could have gotten that themselves.

Now, MBS says, it’s time to make a deal or “shut up and stop complaining”:
According to my sources, the Saudi Crown Prince told the Jewish leaders:

“In the last several decades the Palestinian leadership has missed one opportunity after the other and rejected all the peace proposals it was given. It is about time the Palestinians take the proposals and agree to come to the negotiations table or shut up and stop complaining.”

MBS also made two other points on the Palestinian issue during the meeting:

  1. He made clear the Palestinian issue was not a top priority for the Saudi government or Saudi public opinion. MBS said Saudi Arabia “has much more urgent and important issues to deal with” like confronting Iran’s influence in the region.
  2. Regardless of all his criticism of the Palestinian leadership, MBS also made clear that in order for Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states to normalize relations with Israel there will have to be significant progress on the Israeli-Palestinian peace process.

Under MBS’ leadership since taking effective power in June 2017, Saudi Arabia has aligned itself far more with the West. Decrees from the royal palace are now allowing women to drive and to dress in something other than black abayas and niqabs while in public. MBS has opened cinemas in Saudi Arabia for the first time in decades. He’s either cleaning up corruption or purging dissidents and hardliners, but either way MBS is making sure that he directs public policy for Saudi Arabia for the next several decades, and directs it to come closer to the West.

The main intention of all this appears to be an effort to isolate Iran, which has become an existential threat to Sunni power in the region. Our invasion and then abandonment of Iraq didn’t help in that effort, which is why even the previous crown prince took a distinctly cool approach to Barack Obama at the end of his presidency. MBS knows that he’ll have to modernize in order to make Western nations comfortable with any partnership for the region, and that the glut on oil markets means that the Saudis can’t simply use energy as leverage any more.

Unfortunately for the Palestinians, they’ve been playing footsie with Tehran more than Riyadh, and now they’re going to pay for it. Choosing sides has consequences, and with the stakes as high as they are now, the Saudis see the Palestinians as dispensable. They’d rather ally openly with Israel to keep Iran at bay, and the best way to do that is for the Palestinians to take a deal and get on with their lives.

Unfortunately again for the Palestinians, they still can’t decide what they want, or even how to discuss it:
A powerful but rarely convened assembly that calls itself the Palestinian “supreme authority” meets for the first time in 22 years on Monday, but boycotts and rifts suggest it will struggle to achieve its stated goal of unity against Israel and the United States.

President Mahmoud Abbas is expected to use the four-day Palestinian National Council (PNC) meeting to renew his legitimacy and to install loyalists in powerful positions to begin shaping his legacy.

Abbas has billed the meeting of the Palestinian National Council (PNC), the de facto parliament of the Palestinian Liberation Organization, as a chance to establish a united front against Israel and the United States, after President Donald Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.

The hardline Islamists in Hamas and Islamic Jihad, both of which are aligned with Iran, have boycotted the event, ostensibly because its West Bank location puts them at risk of arrest by Israel. But Reuters notes that three factions of the PLO are also boycotting, in part because they believe Abbas hasn’t been open enough to working with IJ or Hamas. The event is seen as an anachronism by other Palestinians, a desperate attempt by Abbas to emphasize his legitimacy as the Palestinian Authority leader while being largely ignored by all sides.

The Saudis have had enough. Perhaps Abbas should take MBS’ advice and cut a deal while he still can.


Poster Comment:

Ha! The Pali animals are being thrown under the bus as the Saudis see Israel as a more valuable ally in the struggle against Iranian hegemony instead of playing the whipping boy of Arab Jew-hate propaganda.

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#4. To: Tooconservative (#0) (Edited)

What we are coming to is goodbye Palestine. Israel cannot afford another Iranian enclave on its borders. Faced with the possibility of increased Iranian presence in Syria, Israel cannot afford enemies like Iran so close. The shooting of many Palestinian protesters recently points to a ramping up of Israeli attitudes. If the Palestinians want a state they might have to give up Gaza, they will then have to deal with the problem of Hamas themselves

paraclete  posted on  2018-05-01   9:15:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: paraclete (#4)

. If the Palestinians want a state they might have to give up Gaza

Whatever they give up will not be enough. They are cornered.

BTW, the nearest Shia "Iranian" enclave is in southern Lebanon. Israel decided to invade it in 2006.

Got sound beating and had to flee.

A Pole  posted on  2018-05-01   9:25:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: A Pole (#5)

. If the Palestinians want a state they might have to give up Gaza

Whatever they give up will not be enough. They are cornered.

I hate to say it because no matter how much we may disagree,we ALL want the entire Muddle East to stop murdering each other as well as everyone else,but I just don't see it happening.

Too much ignorance,and too many religious leaders to exploit the ignorance. Conflict means wealth and power to the shitheads running things all over the Muddle East,and since they are rarely the ones that do any dying because of it,they ain't going to give it up until somebody there manages to kill off ALL his opponents.

Maybe not even then. It's not only what they do,it's who they are and have been for over a thousand years.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-05-01   16:45:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: sneakypete (#15)

=It's not only what they do,it's who they are and have been for over a thousand years.

Four thousand.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-02   8:55:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Vicomte13 (#29)

Four thousand.

Yeah. Some wandering Jew pitched a tent in the desert 4,000 years ago and that established the State of Israel forever.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-02   9:13:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: misterwhite (#38)

Yeah. Some wandering Jew pitched a tent in the desert 4,000 years ago and that established the State of Israel forever.

Why do you care?

sneakypete  posted on  2018-05-02   17:41:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: sneakypete (#73) (Edited)

Why do you care?

That's where I am on this conflict between Jew and Muslim, Israeli and Palestinian, and the whole Middle East.

Time was, we needed the oil, so it mattered. Now we are an oil exporter, so the whole region doesn't matter so much.

It's a hopeless mess because of 4000 years of stubborn and violent culture. Two religions, neither of which are mine, are in violent conflict (my co- religionists are being driven out of the region in droves).

So, I say have generous immigration to CHRISTIANS fleeing the violence of the Middle East - and Christianity is easy to test. And as to the rest of the nuthouse? Not my circus, not my monkeys, don't need the region, don't care, ain't gonna - and wish we'd just get out.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-05-02   17:51:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#76. To: Vicomte13 (#75)

"The U.S. has sent almost $300 billion in military and economic aid to troubled Middle East and Central Asian countries over the past six decades." That's our tax dollars. And what has it gotten us?

THAT'S why I care.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-02 18:16:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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