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Title: Saudi prince: Maybe the Palestinians should've taken the deals they were offered
Source: HotAir
URL Source: https://hotair.com/archives/2018/04 ... -shouldve-taken-deals-offered/
Published: Apr 30, 2018
Author: Ed Morrissey
Post Date: 2018-05-01 02:51:50 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 8228
Comments: 88

Or maybe they should stop sucking up to Iran. That’s the real subtext of the surprising rhetoric coming from Mohammed bin Salman, the young crown prince of Saudi Arabia who’s rewriting the Middle East script after seizing power in a family feud last year. Barak Ravid reports for Axios that MBS, as he’s colloquially known, told representatives of Jewish groups last month that while Saudi Arabia still wants a just and lasting settlement for the Palestinians, they could have gotten that themselves.

Now, MBS says, it’s time to make a deal or “shut up and stop complaining”:
According to my sources, the Saudi Crown Prince told the Jewish leaders:

“In the last several decades the Palestinian leadership has missed one opportunity after the other and rejected all the peace proposals it was given. It is about time the Palestinians take the proposals and agree to come to the negotiations table or shut up and stop complaining.”

MBS also made two other points on the Palestinian issue during the meeting:

  1. He made clear the Palestinian issue was not a top priority for the Saudi government or Saudi public opinion. MBS said Saudi Arabia “has much more urgent and important issues to deal with” like confronting Iran’s influence in the region.
  2. Regardless of all his criticism of the Palestinian leadership, MBS also made clear that in order for Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states to normalize relations with Israel there will have to be significant progress on the Israeli-Palestinian peace process.

Under MBS’ leadership since taking effective power in June 2017, Saudi Arabia has aligned itself far more with the West. Decrees from the royal palace are now allowing women to drive and to dress in something other than black abayas and niqabs while in public. MBS has opened cinemas in Saudi Arabia for the first time in decades. He’s either cleaning up corruption or purging dissidents and hardliners, but either way MBS is making sure that he directs public policy for Saudi Arabia for the next several decades, and directs it to come closer to the West.

The main intention of all this appears to be an effort to isolate Iran, which has become an existential threat to Sunni power in the region. Our invasion and then abandonment of Iraq didn’t help in that effort, which is why even the previous crown prince took a distinctly cool approach to Barack Obama at the end of his presidency. MBS knows that he’ll have to modernize in order to make Western nations comfortable with any partnership for the region, and that the glut on oil markets means that the Saudis can’t simply use energy as leverage any more.

Unfortunately for the Palestinians, they’ve been playing footsie with Tehran more than Riyadh, and now they’re going to pay for it. Choosing sides has consequences, and with the stakes as high as they are now, the Saudis see the Palestinians as dispensable. They’d rather ally openly with Israel to keep Iran at bay, and the best way to do that is for the Palestinians to take a deal and get on with their lives.

Unfortunately again for the Palestinians, they still can’t decide what they want, or even how to discuss it:
A powerful but rarely convened assembly that calls itself the Palestinian “supreme authority” meets for the first time in 22 years on Monday, but boycotts and rifts suggest it will struggle to achieve its stated goal of unity against Israel and the United States.

President Mahmoud Abbas is expected to use the four-day Palestinian National Council (PNC) meeting to renew his legitimacy and to install loyalists in powerful positions to begin shaping his legacy.

Abbas has billed the meeting of the Palestinian National Council (PNC), the de facto parliament of the Palestinian Liberation Organization, as a chance to establish a united front against Israel and the United States, after President Donald Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.

The hardline Islamists in Hamas and Islamic Jihad, both of which are aligned with Iran, have boycotted the event, ostensibly because its West Bank location puts them at risk of arrest by Israel. But Reuters notes that three factions of the PLO are also boycotting, in part because they believe Abbas hasn’t been open enough to working with IJ or Hamas. The event is seen as an anachronism by other Palestinians, a desperate attempt by Abbas to emphasize his legitimacy as the Palestinian Authority leader while being largely ignored by all sides.

The Saudis have had enough. Perhaps Abbas should take MBS’ advice and cut a deal while he still can.


Poster Comment:

Ha! The Pali animals are being thrown under the bus as the Saudis see Israel as a more valuable ally in the struggle against Iranian hegemony instead of playing the whipping boy of Arab Jew-hate propaganda.

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#6. To: Tooconservative (#0)

Saudi prince: Maybe the Palestinians should've taken the deals they were offered

You mean the Saudi Peace Plan that was endorsed by the 22-member Arab League in 2002 at the Beirut Summit and re-endorsed at the 2007 Arab League summit and at the 2017 Arab League summit?

Well, the Palestinians did accept that deal. Trouble is, the Israelis didn't. They'd rather steal the land and force the Palestinians out of the territory granted to them by UN Resolution 181.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-01   9:45:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: misterwhite (#6) (Edited)

You mean the Saudi Peace Plan that was endorsed by the 22-member Arab League in 2002 at the Beirut Summit and re-endorsed at the 2007 Arab League summit and at the 2017 Arab League summit?

Was Israel even allowed to attend this summit? LOL

I didn't realize LF was such a hotbed of Israel-haters.

And the Arab League is as toothless and unimportant as OPEC. You're stuck in the past.

Even the Saudis have made hardcore changes in their Pali policies. The Gulf states will follow as usual.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-01   10:09:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Tooconservative (#7)

Was Israel even allowed to attend this summit?

Don't know. But they were presented with the plan and rejected it.

"And the Arab League is as toothless and unimportant as OPEC."

Still, you have 22 Arab nations agreeing to peace and a recognition of Israel. That's gotta count for something.

"I didn't realize LF was such a hotbed of Israel- haters."

For blockading Gaza and stealing Palestinian land and property? Nah. The Palestinians, however, don't like it one bit.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-01   10:39:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: misterwhite (#8)

Don't know. But they were presented with the plan and rejected it.

Their foreign minister welcomed it as part of a diplomatic dialogue. As usual, the Pali animals refused to negotiate under any terms with Israel.

This is why the Sunni monarchs are abandoning the Palis. Their foreign policy will not be tied to this long-time loser of a policy, especially since they want Israel to be a military bulwark against expansion of Iran's hegemony across the region. And it doesn't hurt that Israel is a nuclear power. The Iranians alone might provoke an Israeli nuclear attack on them, solving the problems of the oil monarchs of the Gulf states and S.A.

Nothing about the Palis offers a win like that for the oil-rich Sunni states. The Palis are just a bad bet that has never paid off and, after decades of failure, they're being cut loose.

I guess all you Pali sympathizers will just have to get used to the new reality.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-05-01   11:13:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Tooconservative (#9)

As usual, the Pali animals refused to negotiate under any terms with Israel.

"The Arab Peace Plan has received the full support of Mahmoud Abbas and the Palestinian Authority, which even took the unprecedented step of placing advertisements in Israeli newspapers on November 20, 2008 to promote it."

"The Palestinian Authority published full-page notices in Hebrew in four major Israeli daily newspapers, which reproduced the text of the Initiative in full and added that "Fifty-seven Arab and Islamic countries will establish diplomatic ties and normal relations with Israel in return for a full peace agreement and an end to the occupation."
-- Wiki

Sure does look like they supported it. Israel didn't.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-05-01   15:17:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: misterwhite (#10)

Your Muslim cousins don't want peace. Israel should just kill them all. Yes that means all of them. You should go and fight for your Muslim cousins. You're a pussy letting your people down.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-05-02   7:18:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A K A Stone (#24)

Israel should just kill them all. Yes that means all of them.

Maybe put them in boxcars and ship them off to concentration camps like Auschwitz, Belzec, Sobibor, and Treblinka?

What the fuck makes you any different than the Nazis?

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#30. To: misterwhite, A K A Stone, sneakypete, Pinguinite, Vicomte13, Tooconservative, Deckard (#28)

What the fuck makes you any different than the Nazis?

Well, he is a Nazi. Only with different "master race"

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