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Title: Saudi prince: Maybe the Palestinians should've taken the deals they were offered
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HotAir
URL Source: https://hotair.com/archives/2018/04 ... -shouldve-taken-deals-offered/
Published: Apr 30, 2018
Author: Ed Morrissey
Post Date: 2018-05-01 02:51:50 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 7176
Comments: 88
Now, MBS says, it’s time to make a deal or “shut up and stop complaining”: “In the last several decades the Palestinian leadership has missed one opportunity after the other and rejected all the peace proposals it was given. It is about time the Palestinians take the proposals and agree to come to the negotiations table or shut up and stop complaining.” MBS also made two other points on the Palestinian issue during the meeting: Under MBS’ leadership since taking effective power in June 2017, Saudi Arabia has aligned itself far more with the West. Decrees from the royal palace are now allowing women to drive and to dress in something other than black abayas and niqabs while in public. MBS has opened cinemas in Saudi Arabia for the first time in decades. He’s either cleaning up corruption or purging dissidents and hardliners, but either way MBS is making sure that he directs public policy for Saudi Arabia for the next several decades, and directs it to come closer to the West. The main intention of all this appears to be an effort to isolate Iran, which has become an existential threat to Sunni power in the region. Our invasion and then abandonment of Iraq didn’t help in that effort, which is why even the previous crown prince took a distinctly cool approach to Barack Obama at the end of his presidency. MBS knows that he’ll have to modernize in order to make Western nations comfortable with any partnership for the region, and that the glut on oil markets means that the Saudis can’t simply use energy as leverage any more. Unfortunately for the Palestinians, they’ve been playing footsie with Tehran more than Riyadh, and now they’re going to pay for it. Choosing sides has consequences, and with the stakes as high as they are now, the Saudis see the Palestinians as dispensable. They’d rather ally openly with Israel to keep Iran at bay, and the best way to do that is for the Palestinians to take a deal and get on with their lives. Unfortunately again for the Palestinians, they still can’t decide what they want, or even how to discuss it: President Mahmoud Abbas is expected to use the four-day Palestinian National Council (PNC) meeting to renew his legitimacy and to install loyalists in powerful positions to begin shaping his legacy. Abbas has billed the meeting of the Palestinian National Council (PNC), the de facto parliament of the Palestinian Liberation Organization, as a chance to establish a united front against Israel and the United States, after President Donald Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital. The hardline Islamists in Hamas and Islamic Jihad, both of which are aligned with Iran, have boycotted the event, ostensibly because its West Bank location puts them at risk of arrest by Israel. But Reuters notes that three factions of the PLO are also boycotting, in part because they believe Abbas hasn’t been open enough to working with IJ or Hamas. The event is seen as an anachronism by other Palestinians, a desperate attempt by Abbas to emphasize his legitimacy as the Palestinian Authority leader while being largely ignored by all sides. The Saudis have had enough. Perhaps Abbas should take MBS’ advice and cut a deal while he still can. Poster Comment: Ha! The Pali animals are being thrown under the bus as the Saudis see Israel as a more valuable ally in the struggle against Iranian hegemony instead of playing the whipping boy of Arab Jew-hate propaganda.
Or maybe they should stop sucking up to Iran. That’s the real subtext of the surprising rhetoric coming from Mohammed bin Salman, the young crown prince of Saudi Arabia who’s rewriting the Middle East script after seizing power in a family feud last year. Barak Ravid reports for Axios that MBS, as he’s colloquially known, told representatives of Jewish groups last month that while Saudi Arabia still wants a just and lasting settlement for the Palestinians, they could have gotten that themselves. According to my sources, the Saudi Crown Prince told the Jewish leaders: A powerful but rarely convened assembly that calls itself the Palestinian “supreme authority” meets for the first time in 22 years on Monday, but boycotts and rifts suggest it will struggle to achieve its stated goal of unity against Israel and the United States.
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#6. To: Tooconservative (#0)
You mean the Saudi Peace Plan that was endorsed by the 22-member Arab League in 2002 at the Beirut Summit and re-endorsed at the 2007 Arab League summit and at the 2017 Arab League summit? Well, the Palestinians did accept that deal. Trouble is, the Israelis didn't. They'd rather steal the land and force the Palestinians out of the territory granted to them by UN Resolution 181.
Was Israel even allowed to attend this summit? LOL I didn't realize LF was such a hotbed of Israel-haters. And the Arab League is as toothless and unimportant as OPEC. You're stuck in the past. Even the Saudis have made hardcore changes in their Pali policies. The Gulf states will follow as usual.
Don't know. But they were presented with the plan and rejected it. "And the Arab League is as toothless and unimportant as OPEC." Still, you have 22 Arab nations agreeing to peace and a recognition of Israel. That's gotta count for something. "I didn't realize LF was such a hotbed of Israel- haters." For blockading Gaza and stealing Palestinian land and property? Nah. The Palestinians, however, don't like it one bit.
First of all, there is no such country or people as Palestine. These are mongrel squatters on land legally purchased by Israel in the late 19th century. Until the Jews bought the land from Arabs who thought they were stupid for wanting to buy it, the land was virtually uninhabitable. The Jews through hard labor made the land livable. The Arabs there now are just the offspring of laborers who came there to be hired by the jews. Other Arab countries have plenty of money to take care of these squatters if they really wanted to. The point is nothing was ever stolen.
While you may be right there was a British mandated territory called Palestine "In 1918, the Jewish Legion, a group primarily of Zionist volunteers, assisted in the British conquest of Palestine.[133] Arab opposition to British rule and Jewish immigration led to the 1920 Palestine riots and the formation of a Jewish militia known as the Haganah (meaning "The Defense" in Hebrew), from which the Irgun and Lehi, or the Stern Gang, paramilitary groups later split off.[134] In 1922, the League of Nations granted Britain a mandate over Palestine under terms which included the Balfour Declaration with its promise to the Jews, and with similar provisions regarding the Arab Palestinians.[135] The population of the area at this time was predominantly Arab and Muslim, with Jews accounting for about 11%,[136] and Arab Christians at about 9.5% of the population.[137]" ~ Wikipaedia The name Palestine has been used for a long time, having originally been used by the Romans. Clearly, there were arabs in the early twentieth century
#20. To: paraclete (#18)
Palestine refers to a region. There is no country of Palestine.
Earlier. Palestine. from Latin Palestina (name of a Roman province), from Greek Palaistine (Herodotus), from Hebrew Pelesheth "Philistia, land of the Philistines." They were in Canaan before Hebrews. The map below shows the actual Jewish Kingdom - Judea. Israel - Samaritan kingdom of "the lost tribes" is in blue to the north. Edom (descendents of Esau, brother of Jacob) were converted by force to Judaism under Maccabee rule. Since they they make major part of Sephardi - Middle Eastern DNA ;) Ashkenazi Jews DNA in male lineage (Y chromosome) derives in large part from Sephardim and from converted Khazars ( semi-nomadic Turkic tribe north of Caucasus and Caspian Sea). In female line (marked by mitochondria) most of genes come from Germanic/Slavic gene pool. So much for racial purity. Jews are not a race, it is a RELIGION!
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#7. To: misterwhite (#6)
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You mean the Saudi Peace Plan that was endorsed by the 22-member Arab League in 2002 at the Beirut Summit and re-endorsed at the 2007 Arab League summit and at the 2017 Arab League summit?
#8. To: Tooconservative (#7)
Was Israel even allowed to attend this summit?
#17. To: misterwhite (#8)
For blockading Gaza and stealing Palestinian land and property?
#18. To: no gnu taxes (#17)
First of all, there is no such country or people as Palestine.
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