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The Establishments war on Donald Trump
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Title: Suicide of the West HOW THE REBIRTH OF TRIBALISM, POPULISM, NATIONALISM, AND IDENTITY POLITICS IS DESTROYING AMERICAN DEMOCRACY By JONAH GOLDBERG s
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Published: Apr 24, 2018
Author: —David Brooks
Post Date: 2018-04-24 10:15:06 by tpaine
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Views: 3343
Comments: 48

Suicide of the West HOW THE REBIRTH OF TRIBALISM, POPULISM, NATIONALISM, AND IDENTITY POLITICS IS DESTROYING AMERICAN DEMOCRACY By JONAH GOLDBERG

“Epic and debate-shifting.” —David Brooks

With his trademark blend of political history, social science, economics, and pop culture, two-time NYT bestselling author, syndicated columnist, National Review senior editor, and American Enterprise Institute fellow Jonah Goldberg makes the timely case that America and other democracies are in peril as they lose the will to defend the values and institutions that sustain freedom and prosperity. Instead we are surrendering to populism, nationalism and other forms of tribalism.

Only once in the last 250,000 years have humans stumbled upon a way to lift ourselves out of the endless cycle of poverty, hunger, and war that defines most of history—in 18th century England when we accidentally discovered the miracle of liberal democratic capitalism.

As Americans we are doubly blessed that those radical ideas were written into the Constitution, laying the groundwork for our uniquely prosperous society: · Our rights come from God not from the government. · The government belongs to us; we do not belong to the government. · The individual is sovereign. We are all captains of our own souls. · The fruits of our labors belong to us.

In the last few decades, these political virtues have been turned into vices. As we are increasingly taught to view our traditions as a system of oppression, exploitation and “white privilege,” the principles of liberty and the rule of law are under attack from left and right.

At a moment when authoritarianism, tribalism, identity politics, nationalism, and cults of personality are rotting our democracy from within, Goldberg exposes the West’s suicidal tendencies on both sides of the ideological aisle. For the West to survive, we must renew our sense of gratitude for what our civilization has given us and rediscover the ideals that led us out of the bloody muck of the past – or back to the muck we will go.

Suicide is painless, liberty takes work.

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#9. To: tpaine (#0)

“Epic and debate-shifting.” —David Brooks

That alone should tell us this book is utterly worthless. One NeverTrumper sellout at the Slimes, praising another NeverTrumper sellout and his new Lefty-approved book.

Goldberg went to a lot of work to state the obvious and well-known in this tired screed. What isn't clear is that he has mustered any new arguments or facts into the national political conversation. And that conversation is largely mythical to begin with, given that the Left has no intention of ever debating issues on the merits. They can't afford to.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-04-26   8:30:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Tooconservative (#9)

---- this book is utterly worthless.

Goldberg writes:----

"· Our rights come from God not from the government.

- The government belongs to us; we do not belong to the government.

· The individual is sovereign. We are all captains of our own souls.

· The fruits of our labors belong to us. "

"As Americans we are doubly blessed that those radical ideas were written into the Constitution, laying the groundwork for our uniquely prosperous society".

--- You disagree, call his words worthless, -- and somehow in your mind Goldberg becomes "another NeverTrumper sellout"...

Goldberg isn't criticizing Trump, he's attacking the progressive left. --- He's not a problem, but thinking like yours sure qualifies..

--- Please, get some help...

tpaine  posted on  2018-04-26   10:32:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: tpaine (#10)

--- You disagree, call his words worthless, -- and somehow in your mind Goldberg becomes "another NeverTrumper sellout"...

He's merely plagiarizing Edmund Burke, John Locke, and other classical Brit liberals.

That you seem to be so unaware of this indicates you aren't as well-read as you'd like for us to believe.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-04-26   11:18:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Tooconservative (#11)

He's merely plagiarizing Edmund Burke, John Locke, and other classical Brit liberals.

You disagree, call his words worthless, -- and somehow in your mind Goldberg becomes "another NeverTrumper sellout"... --- And now a plagiarist????

Goldberg isn't criticizing Trump, he's attacking the progressive left, as his quoted words above prove, the words you ignore in your effort to do what???

What's your point? Why do you imagine Goldberg is an enemy of our Republic?

tpaine  posted on  2018-04-26   11:41:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: tpaine (#12)

What's your point? Why do you imagine Goldberg is an enemy of our Republic?

Drama queen much?

I said no such thing. He wishes he was that important.

I think he wrote this book as his resume to try to get some gig with the Slimes or the Atlantic or some other lib outlet where he can be a well-paid, often-televised house conservative (i.e. porch monkey). A lot of the NeverTrumpers are trying to get such gigs now. Kevin Williamson, a similar writer at NRO and other venues, got hired and fired almost that fast at the Atlantic recently.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-04-26   12:15:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Tooconservative (#13)

You disagree, call his words worthless, -- and somehow in your mind Goldberg becomes "another NeverTrumper sellout"... --- And now a plagiarist????

Drama queen much?

I said no such thing. He wishes he was that important.

I think he wrote this book as his resume to try to get some gig with the Slimes or the Atlantic or some other lib outlet where he can be a well-paid, often-televised house conservative (i.e. porch monkey). A lot of the NeverTrumpers are trying to get such gigs now.

Calling him a "NeverTrumper sellout"... --- And now a plagiarist, --- makes you the " Drama queen".

Goldberg has had a 'gig' on Fox for quite a while. -- Your imaginings that he needs others is just weird..

In fact, your whole 'conservative' stance since Trumps election has become very "NeverTrumper" weird. --- What's going on with you?

tpaine  posted on  2018-04-26   12:48:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: tpaine (#14)

Goldberg has had a 'gig' on Fox for quite a while. -- Your imaginings that he needs others is just weird..

His appearances on FNC are less than 10% of what they once were. Steven Hayes of Weekly Standard, another NeverTrumper, went from being a daily news panelist for well over a decade to making 1 or 2 shows per month and Bill Kristol is now never seen on FNC.

So the NeverTrumpers of NRO and Weekly Standard are rare on FNC because no one wants to hear from them. So now they are flacking themselves to any lib outlet that might put them on the payroll or help them get paid appearances on the libmedia news shows.

In fact, your whole 'conservative' stance since Trumps election has become very "NeverTrumper" weird. --- What's going on with you?

You get more querulous by the day. Nothing is going on with me. I just don't think much of Goldberg's latest book, no matter how hard you try to flack it for him.

These NeverTrumpers are all worried that they're gonna end up like Kevin Williamson. He sold out his editor/columnist gig at National Review and quit so he could work as the house Negro conservative at The Atlantic. He lasted there about 1 month when they railroaded him over tweets about abortion years back. Now KDW is the theater critic for The New Criterion. Like anyone has ever even heard of it. Good riddance to KDW, the man who described Trump's entry in the 2016 race as "Witless Ape Rides Escalator". And that was considered the height of wit and aplomb by the rest of the cocky NRO crew, now down on their luck as much as the benighted Weekly Standard. They all want out and none of them can get a cushy sinecure elsewhere.

So you can shove Jonah's little book right up your ass. Then you can enjoy it twice as much.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-04-26   13:26:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Tooconservative (#15)

Goldberg has had a 'gig' on Fox for quite a while. -- Your imaginings that he needs others is just weird..

You get more querulous by the day. Nothing is going on with me. I just don't think much of Goldberg's latest book, no matter how hard you try to flack it for him. His appearances on FNC are less than 10% of what they once were. So you can shove Jonah's little book right up your ass. Then you can enjoy it twice as much.

I'm the querulous one? Gotta love your 'sticking it up the ass' bit.

I'm advocating his book because I think it's a true assessment of what's happening to America, --- due to progressive socialism.

Your effort to call that flacking is just one more example of YOUR own Trump hatred. -- Get out of the closet, and admit it...

tpaine  posted on  2018-04-26   15:08:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#25. To: tpaine (#17)

We have principles, written in the Declaration, and in the Constitution, which guide our people on what our proper role should be in political life.

Do you have any idea why you're so against our having constitutional principles?

We were discussing the contention of specific content having been written into the Constitution.

The Constitution is law. The Declaration is merely a political statement, not law, and binding on nobody.

You demand specifics of the document, (which we probably agree on, given the style of the writing) --- while I want to discuss the principles behind our Constitution.

You asked me on another thread,

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=55578&Disp=17#C17

And, if you have time, I'd appreciate any comment on the thread:--- Suicide of the West HOW THE REBIRTH OF TRIBALISM, POPULISM, NATIONALISM, AND IDENTITY POLITICS IS DESTROYING AMERICAN DEMOCRACY By JONAH GOLDBERG ....

The Amazon article was for a book that had not yet been published, but which was available for pre-ordering. You attributed the "article" as "Author: —David Brooks." It was written by Amazon, for the product they were selling.

The Amazon review contains:

As Americans we are doubly blessed that those radical ideas were written into the Constitution, laying the groundwork for our uniquely prosperous society:

  • Our rights come from God not from the government.
  • The government belongs to us; we do not belong to the government.
  • The individual is sovereign. We are all captains of our own souls.
  • The fruits of our labors belong to us.

You pointed me to this fictional drivel for some unstated purpose. I asked where the cited radical ideas were written into the Constitution as claimed.

I understand why you want to change the topic of discussion to radical 18th century political philosphy that is not written into the Constitution, but I am not interested. I have addressed the actual review and its claims.

It's obvious to me, --- you don't agree with or want to discuss our Constitutional Principles regarding slavery and the rights of persons..

Why is that?

The only explanation is that you are delusional.

The Constitution on slavery is that it was lawful, and the Fugitive Slave Clause, U.S. Const., Art IV. Sec. 2, held that "No person held to service or labor in one state, under the laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in consequence of any law or regulation therein, be discharged from such service or labor, but shall be delivered up on claim of the party to whom such service or labor may be due."

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