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Foreign Invaders crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report Israel kills head of Hezbollah Intelligence. Status: Not Logged In; Sign In International News See other International News Articles Title: Trump Launches Missile Strikes on Syria After Chemical Attack Source: [None] URL Source: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti ... as-expectations-of-strike-grow Published: Apr 13, 2018 Author: Jennifer Jacobs, Donna Nabu-Nasr, Daniel Post Date: 2018-04-13 21:29:24 by A K A Stone Keywords: None Views: 7737 Comments: 82 President Donald Trump said he launched missile strikes on Syria in retaliation for an apparent chemical attack by the regime of Bashar al-Assad on a rebel town. Trump said the missile strikes, which were focused on chemical weapons sites, would be carried out in coordination with France and the U.K. and he made clear that the U.S. is prepared to sustain the strikes until Syria stops using chemical weapons. The president also blasted Iraq and Russia for supporting Assad’s regime, particularly in the wake of the chemical attack. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 75. #1. To: A K A Stone (#0) I sure hope he has the evidence to back it up paraclete  posted on  2018-04-13   21:41:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #32. To: paraclete (#1) I sure hope he has the evidence to back it up. He has nothing but rumor. Trump is a blasted, damned fool! Who needs evidence at a time such as this. All you need is supposition and bull shit to do what you want, including get us into WW111. rlk  posted on  2018-04-14   18:18:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #33. To: rlk (#32) all you need is supposition and bull shit to do what you want, including get us into WW111. Yes Trump is a tool of the military/industrial complex. He has made a restrained response which will be taken as weakness by Assad and Putin. Madam May is making much of the opportunity to ramp up the rhetoric against the Russians linking gas in Syria to nerve agents in the UK paraclete  posted on  2018-04-14   18:52:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #34. To: paraclete (#33) He has made a restrained response which will be taken as weakness by Assad and Putin. Assad and Putin are very, very smart (they would not be where they are, if they didn't). They understand the situation of Trump well. probably they sympathize with him. A Pole  posted on  2018-04-14   19:14:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #35. To: A Pole (#34) Assad and Putin are very, very smart Putin might be smart or just cunning, Assad didn't get the job by being smart, like Kim he took over from his daddy and has succeeded in pissing off his people, not smart, devastating his country, not smart paraclete  posted on  2018-04-14   21:40:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #39. To: paraclete, Vicomte13, Tooconservative, sneakypete, Pinguinite (#35) Assad didn't get the job by being smart, like Kim he took over from his daddy and has succeeded in pissing off his people, not smart, devastating his country, not smart I wonder how long you would last in his place, I think couple days at most. You have a set of templates from the cartoons and more cheesy Hollywood movies and are conditioned like a Pavlovian dog. You cannot point to a country on the map or spell its name, but you know the character of the rogue leader better than his closest family. Strange thing, each of those designated rogues is IDENTICAL to the others. Saddam, Milosevic, Allende, Noriega, Milosevic, Putin, Kim, ... No matter that earlier they could have had a different role assigned, memory is flexible. A Pole  posted on  2018-04-15   4:31:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #44. To: A Pole, paraclete, Vicomte13, sneakypete, Pinguinite (#39) (Edited) Assad didn't get the job by being smart, like Kim he took over from his daddy and has succeeded in pissing off his people, not smart, devastating his country, not smart Assad was not expected to take over the regime, his brother who got killed was groomed for the role, much as Joe Kennedy Junior was the son that old Joe wanted to run for prez. When he got killed in the remote-controlled bomber over England, JFK was his father's pick to run for prez. Assad did become a qualified ophthalmologist after medical training in Britain. I never read any complaints about his professional qualifications so he must have been fairly bright and had basic competence. And he does seem to be pretty intelligent, maybe a little on the autism scale. Something about his appearance and behavior makes me think that when I do see him on TV, despite how carefully they control any video of him that we can see in the West. However, Assad is the figurehead of his country's military/political elite. Exactly as Kim Jong-Il is. In either case, even if we drove the "dictator" from power, the (primarily) military regime would simply select another figurehead as ruler. There is no other way to rule a country that is so culturally and religiously divided as Syria is. In some respects, Putin plays the same role in Russia. He just didn't inherit the role from Daddy. If you want an American example of this, look at how Rand Paul mostly inherited his father's political base. And Rand is, like Assad, an ophthalmologist. Tooconservative  posted on  2018-04-15   13:49:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #45. To: Tooconservative (#44) Assad was not expected to take over the regime, his brother who got killed was groomed for the role, much as Joe Kennedy Junior was the son that old Joe wanted to run for prez. When he got killed in the remote-controlled bomber over England, JFK was his father's pick to run for prez. Assad did become a qualified ophthalmologist after medical training in Britain. I never read any complaints about his professional qualifications so he must have been fairly bright and had basic competence. And he does seem to be pretty intelligent, maybe a little on the autism scale. Something about his appearance and behavior makes me think that when I do see him on TV, despite how carefully they control any video of him that we can see in the West. However, Assad is the figurehead of his country's military/political elite. Exactly as Kim Jong-Il is. In either case, even if we drove the "dictator" from power, the (primarily) military regime would simply select another figurehead as ruler. There is no other way to rule a country that is so culturally and religiously divided as Syria is. In some respects, Putin plays the same role in Russia. He just didn't inherit the role from Daddy. If you want an American example of this, look at how Rand Paul mostly inherited his father's political base. And Rand is, like Assad, an ophthalmologist. Why is America involved with Syria? buckeroo  posted on  2018-04-15   13:55:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #46. To: buckeroo (#45) It's...complicated. Trump wants out. But he also doesn't want to look weak. He isn't the first prez with exactly this problem. Tooconservative  posted on  2018-04-15   14:00:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #47. To: Tooconservative (#46) It's...complicated. How does American involvement in Syrian internal affairs ensure a defensive posture for Americans? Did they bomb the USA or were the USA invited by Syria to be there? buckeroo  posted on  2018-04-15   14:08:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #51. To: buckeroo (#47) They slaughter their own people and support terrorism against our allies. Therefore, their government needs to go. Also, if the government is overthrown and replaced with something more pro-American, the Russian base there can be closed - and that is the only Russian naval anchorage in the Mediterranean. Poor Russians. Vicomte13  posted on  2018-04-15   21:50:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #52. To: Vicomte13 (#51) Also, if the government is overthrown and replaced with something more pro-American, the Russian base there can be closed - and that is the only Russian naval anchorage in the Mediterranean. Poor Russians. The poor Russians have enough nukes to virtually destroy the entire USA and probably Europe too, so they are not that "poor". Best not to attempt to back a nuke power into a corner. And they have the Crimea back, so they still have Met access. Pinguinite  posted on  2018-04-15   21:58:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #54. To: Pinguinite (#52) The poor Russians have enough nukes to virtually destroy the entire USA and probably Europe too, so they are not that "poor". Best not to attempt to back a nuke power into a corner. And they have the Crimea back, so they still have Met access. As I said: their military option is to blow up the world, including themselves. Sure, they can commit suicide (and wake up in Hell after doing it), but they don't have any option. As far as Med access goes, take another look at the map. Sevastopol is on the Black Sea. To get to the Med they have to steam through the Dardanelles inside of NATO ally Turkey. And once they get to the other side, in the NATO-ally Greece's private lake called the Aegean, with Syria gone they have nowhere to base, nowhere to refuel, nowhere to repair. Their underway replenishment capability is very weak. So sure, they can send a fleet past Istanbul, in peacetime, and float around in the Med until they run out of fuel and food. They can't stay there very long, and in a war scenario, they can't get their fleet out of the Black Sea, or back into it if it's in the Med. The loss of Syria would be a massive blow to their strategic position. They need to negotiate. I'm sure that leaving them a Guantanamo Bay type of arrangement regarding their Syrian base can be worked out that doesn't require Assad to sit there. But maybe not. Poor Russia has nuclear weapons - and that's all they've got. Nuclear weapons give them the option of being a suicide bomber - blowing up the whole world, themselves included - in a tantrum. They would do that if armies were closing in on Moscow. So would the French is armies were closing in on Paris. But over Syria? Nah. The Russians will not commit suicide over Syria. They'll take their lumps and be angry and move on. Vicomte13  posted on  2018-04-16   7:48:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #60. To: Vicomte13, TooConservative (#54) As I said: their military option is to blow up the world, including themselves. Sure, they can commit suicide (and wake up in Hell after doing it), but they don't have any option. When you "corner"someone, that's when they run out of options. Turkey is not exactly a foe of Russia. Russia is selling them S-300 systems, much to the chagrin of the US. The loss of Syria would be a massive blow to their strategic position. They need to negotiate. Putin WANTS to negotiate. But it's the west that is completely refusing to do so. Putin instead simply being push and shoved, again and again and again. The west doesn't care at all about anything Putin has to say. According to the west, "negotiation" means only one thing: Shut up, get back in the fucking line and do what we say! And you *know* that's true. Latest word on Skripal case: The chem used was not Novichok. It was instead something called "BZ", which was known to be developed only in NATO countries and the USA. That bolsters Russia's claim of non-involvement, and compromises the west's decision to expel the 120 or so diplomats by not only the US & UK, but a dozen or more other western allies that are at risk of being severely embarrassed as having been proven to be mere puppets of the USA. And we'll see what the International inspectors will say about Douma. Russia has boldly claimed there is no evidence any chem attack even occurred. What's in the videos we've all seen could have been merely a hysteria response, if not staged outright. The "disturbing" video doesn't even show a single person or child suffering any effects of any chemical agent. It shows only a few adults and kids getting watered down and administered eye drops and inhalers. Poor Russia has nuclear weapons - and that's all they've got. That's not exactly true. It seems to me Russia has focused their much smaller military budget on strategic offensive weaponry and tactical defensive weaponry, mainly in missile and torpedo tech. They may well be leading the world in such areas. And that's to be expected as they simply don't have the budget to spend money on boondoggle projects as the US is doing with the F-35 program. The US invests in military areas they believe will help them push their influence offensively worldwide. New carriers, big fleets. The Russians instead are investing in tech that can sink fleets, which is much cheaper than the fleets themselves. Will they use it? Doubtful. Just as the USA will, doubtfully, attack Russia outright. But you know what Vic? Maybe the best advantage Russia has is, is in the so-called "propaganda" war. Russia is gaining sympathy and the US is losing it. I'll use myself in this example. I'm pissed off. I'm pissed at Trump. I was his supporter. Whereas before I was enthusiastic about Trump beating Hillary, I'm now taking a "what can be salvaged" type view of Trump. I find myself instead viewing Putin and Assad as underdogs and victims of a huge misinformation campaign and war promoted by a very real Deep State that has successfully taken Trump down. I, as an American citizen who has never set foot in Russia, on an emotional level have almost completely sided with Russia and Putin, that based on my sickening disappointment with the absolute injustice dispensed on Putin and Assad with with what I see as non-credible accusations of their using chem weapons in the UK and now Douma, both accusations not making any sense whatsoever for their complete lack of credible motive. And while I don't believe that there is a large segment of Americans that feel the degree of sympathy for Assad and Putin as I do right now, there's no question that Trump has disappointed a great many of his supporters with this Syrian strike as it violated everything he passionately broadcast as a candidate. In my view, this stike on Syria did more damage to Trump's support base than it did to Syria. What's happening is that Trump's support base is changing and I'll use TooConservative here as an example, without his permission and in accordance with my own recollection. TC hated trump with an absolute passion. He didn't vote for him. He could not say enough things here on this very forum about how disgusting he was. After Trump won, TC did a flip on these negative sentiments, and I gather from his posts that he approves of the strike on Syria and is probably now a dedicated fan. I think TC represents more of the traditional Republican Bush-supporter type base, as perhaps you do as well, and I represented the base that was opposed to the Deep State, the swamp and all it represents. But it was my base that put Trump in office, not TC's. And now Trump has traded his original support base that won him the presidency for the Bush-era base that failed against Obama. As I see it, you two are cheering for the Deep State swamp, Bush era war mongering, and I by contrast, have virtually transferred all sympathy I once had for US interests to Russia. How many more are like me? That's a good question, but I know I'm not alone. Putin still has his naysayers here on this very forum who simply write off Putin as a former KGB agent who will perpetually be up to Soviet era domination for as long as he lives. I would speculate that there's not 1 American in 100 who hates Putin who has ever heard a single word the man has had to say. But that's changing. I do believe Putin is, in spite of his history, a reasonably good guy, that based on what I have taken the time to actually hear him say (translated of course). He does not want world war. He does not want confrontation with the west. He is doing the best he can against a juggernaut of fake news and an American Deep State beast that has conscripted even the defiant Trump into it's array of swamp minions. So when one tallies up the strengths & weaknesses of Russia vs the USA, do take public sentiment into consideration along with all that goes with it, and not just military capability. So I'll have a toast to Putin and Assad. May they prevail. Pinguinite  posted on  2018-04-16   11:07:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #66. To: Pinguinite, Vicomte13, TooConservative, ALL (#60) I've read your post and agree in large part with your logic and observations. Yes it was indeed YOUR "base" that elected Trump, not TC's. Or to be fair, more than a few posters here opposed Trump for President. In defense of Trump and some of the moves/non-moves he has made (especially regarding the military -- and of which you and others may or may not disagree with), Donald Trump is a "President" IN NAME ONLY. I have claimed this before and I would claim it forevermore. Moreover, can it be anymore obvious that Jeff Sessions is a Deep State tool? What kind of AG recuses himself from defending the same President who appointed him? The entire "RUSSIA!!" Witch Hunt hinged on Sessions backing off and allowing Clinton sycophant Rod Rosenstein to appoint Mueller to conduct his never-ending Witch Hunt. The PTB, Deep State, Hitlery, Dems and Neocons (R) have ALL been clamoring for a war and dog-whistling "PUTIN!!!....RUSSIA!!" I concur -- Putin is just a necessary Boogie Man that globalists need to rev up the Military-Industrial Complex... ...It seems obvious to me that the "RUSSIA!!/PUTIN!!" dog whistle also serves as convenient Wag The Dog distractions/deflections away from the REAL "war"; That is the War on Truth, and War on Trump, and revelations that the Deep State, FIB, NSA, and BOTH Parties colluded to frame Donald Trump and electing Hitlery Klintoon while (STILL) committing High Crimes against Trump and against the Constitution. The evidence strongly suggests that Trump has been squeezed hard from the PTB, given "guidelines" with respect to IF, WHEN, and HOW to act from WHOMEVER pulls the strings. It seems clear to me that he had reluctantly given a Green Light on this muddled Mission to appease certain Neocon-Globalist elements. Whether Trump getting pressed on NOT vetoing that monstrous Congressional Budget or this military action against Syrian, I don't believe for a millisecond that Trump's will was to permit either. The intent of both was to undemine continued support for Donald Trump -- and to THAT end the ruse of the PTB is working. I'd be interested -- how many posters on this board fundamentally agree with this assessment? Liberator  posted on  2018-04-16   13:00:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #68. To: Liberator (#66) In defense of Trump and some of the moves/non-moves he has made (especially regarding the military -- and of which you and others may or may not disagree with), Donald Trump is a "President" IN NAME ONLY. I have claimed this before and I would claim it forevermore. In a certain sense, that is true of every prez. It's what Ike called the military-industrial complex. Their attitude is generally, "You voters can elect who you want but this is the real establishment and the actual elite governing consensus, whether voters like it or not". And a lot of policy gets enacted on just that basis. Like various dirty federal deals on highway funding. Or the nakedly corrupt food stamps and farm subsidies and crop insurance programs. And the entire government is shot through with these things that are so construed as to make it almost impossible to repeal these unholy alliances within the federal government, no matter who you elect. We should not expect the election of a single prez to completely alter the way business is done or the entire federal agencies, the Pentagon, the lobbyists, the donors and how they are twisting the arms of pols to do their will in the House/Senate. And it doesn't matter what Trump wants if they can successfully twist enough arms in Congress. The best he can do is put a brave face on the result, like he did with the recent disastrous budget "compromise", a.k.a. Porkulous Extreme. Tooconservative  posted on  2018-04-16   13:18:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #73. To: Tooconservative (#68) In a certain sense, that ["President" IN NAME ONLY] is true of every prez. I don't think we're close to being on the same page. At all. NORMALLY, Congressional Leaders strongly support their President's policies instead of defiantly leading a mutiny against him. You also convenient ignore McConnell's and Ryan's public hostility to this President; They both openly flout defeatist attitudes in the mid-terms just to undermine Trump; And they openly and publicly attempt to embarrass and sabotage this President whenever they can. Same of several so-called "Republicans", who are far more aligned with DEMOCRATS. The only context of my assertion regarding Trump and the military-industrial complex was as a matter of recent policy that Trump obviously had no heart in doing. It is clear his arm was again twisted on the Syria strikes and out-voted by his hive of Globalist neocons swarming his admin. Trump's MAGA agenda is obviously being obstructed and throttled by globalist REPUBLICANS (D). Liberator  posted on  2018-04-16   20:04:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #75. To: Liberator (#73) (Edited) NORMALLY, Congressional Leaders strongly support their President's policies instead of defiantly leading a mutiny against him. Yes,and normally they are all cogs in the same machine,playing the "you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours". Now there is a guy in the top position that didn't work his way up in the system by kissing the "right" rings and who doesn't play by their club rules,and they can't stand it.It's contrary to everything they have believed their whole lives. Think "A "scab" walks in off the street and becomes the head of every union in America,and you won't be far off the mark. The truth is the better he does,the more they hate him. sneakypete  posted on  2018-04-16   20:46:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 75. #81. To: sneakypete (#75) Now there is a guy in the top position that didn't work his way up in the system by kissing the "right" rings and who doesn't play by their club rules,and they can't stand it.It's contrary to everything they have believed their whole lives. Think "A "scab" walks in off the street and becomes the head of every union in America,and you won't be far off the mark. The truth is the better he does,the more they hate him. +100. Excellent breakdown of what's happened. Trump *was* akin to a "Scab" who not only shoved his way through the picket line, but "didn't pay his dues"...and wound up President of the AFL-CIO. Liberator  posted on  2018-04-17 13:18:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 75. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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