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Title: Ted Nugent: Parkland’s Student-Activists Are ‘Soulless’ Liars
Source: TheDailyBeast
URL Source: https://www.thedailybeast.com/ted-n ... t-activists-are-soulless-liars
Published: Mar 31, 2018
Author: staff
Post Date: 2018-03-31 10:48:28 by buckeroo
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Views: 1573
Comments: 24

Classic rocker and NRA board member Ted Nugent has attacked Parkland’s teenage school shooting survivors-turned-gun control activists, calling them “mushy brained” and “soulless” liars. In an appearance on The Joe Pags Show late Friday, Nugent apparently forgot about his promise to stop using “hateful rhetoric” after last year’s congressional shooting in Virginia.

According to Nugent, the Parkland students pushing for tighter gun laws are “poor mushy brained children who have been fed lies” and are “committing spiritual suicide.” As for David Hogg and Emma Gonzalez—two of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High's most outspoken student survivors—Nugent went so far as to say they are waging a war against ordinary Americans everywhere. “To attack the good law-abiding families of America when well known predictable murderers commit these horrors is deep in the category of soulless. These poor children, I’m afraid to say this and it hurts me to say this, but the evidence is irrefutable, they have no soul,” he said.


Hogg's BS is going to catch up to himself.

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#1. To: buckeroo (#0)

the Parkland students pushing for tighter gun laws

Why do they think tighter gun laws are the solution? Why have they excluded armed teachers, increased security or even bringing back prayer in schools?

Why? Because they're being manipulated by liberals who think more laws are always the solution.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-03-31   11:09:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: buckeroo (#0)

Nugent needs to shut up about politics. He hurts the cause more than he helps it. Or maybe he thinks he needs the publicity. Some PR experts say there's no such thing as bad publicity.

All these entertainers need to shut up about politics.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-03-31   11:29:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Tooconservative (#2)

No Ted Nugent is right if the snowflakes can't handle it let them melt.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-03-31   11:30:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone (#3)

We're winning the gun debate, no matter how many Child Leaders the Left drags in front of willing camera crews. This sort of outrage-of-the-day doesn't help that. It sounds more like Nugent just needing to get some attention.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-03-31   12:11:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: misterwhite (#1)

...They're being manipulated by liberals who think more laws are always the solution.

Of course.

But then isn't it Liberals/SJWs/GOPe/Globalists who control most of the (Lying) Message via the other Pillar of Statist Control -- the MSM?

Make no mistake -- Liberals are Liars who demand THEIR "Laws" and ONLY their laws be enforced (ones that manage only to restrict the Free Speech, Freedom and Actions of Conservatives.)

Meanwhile they ignore Border Laws, Equal Protection Laws while foisting unconstitutional preference laws upon us like Gender-based recognition, quotas and AA.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-31   14:46:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: buckeroo (#0)

Hogg's BS is going to catch up to himself.

I happen to agree...

But is it wishful thinking or do you predict self-destruction?

Any idea how that's going to happen?

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-31   14:47:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Tooconservative (#2)

Nugent needs to shut up about politics. He hurts the cause more than he helps it. Or maybe he thinks he needs the publicity.

Some PR experts say there's no such thing as bad publicity. All these entertainers need to shut up about politics.

Ted Nugent has always been outspoken in his crusade for Freedom and his contempt for Big Mouths' Fascism.

I applaud Nuge's defense of Freedom and willingness to battle the Left and their SJW on THEIR terms.

Arguably, wouldn't you say David Hogg is NOW considered an "Entertainer"?? If not, exactly what is he? And why should he be immune to criticism? Hogg is fighting a proxy war for the Left's "adults." The MSM is Hogg's "Command Center." Exploiting a "child" to score political point is patently unfair and "cheating" in what is a Culture War that is boiling over.

Laura Ingraham is emboldening the Left to step up their attacks. It'll take someone like Nuge to expose the Left's gambit and fake outrage. SOMEONE with balls had to stop this insanity.

FWIW, I'd just posted an excellent review of an excellent book that addresses the techniques and goals of the Left/SJW/Hogg and primer on understanding exactly what, how and why they are doing what they do:

http://www.returnofkings.com/76526/the-most-important-book-of-2015-sjws-always-lie

The 3 Immutable Laws Of SJWism

1. They always lie
2. They always double down when confronted with their lies
3. They always project

The 8 Stages Of An SJW Attack

1. Locate or Create a Violation of the Narrative. Trivial violations are sufficient when a target has some public or organizational influence.

2. Point and Shriek. “The next step is to summon other SJWs by pointing at the target and shrieking about how terrible, outrageous, and completely unacceptable he is.”

3. Isolate and Swarm. The target is isolated from his allies while SJW’s recruit more foot soldiers in the attack.

4. Reject and Transform. An apology is elicited from the target, which only makes matters worse. “[The apology] is promptly rejected because it is not the action, but the actor, that is the real target.”

5. Press for Surrender. They begin going for the kill: getting the person fired from a job or ejection from an organization.

6. Appeal to Amenable Authority. The company or organization is heavily petitioned to punish the target.

7. Show Trial. The target is accused of every wrong imaginable, almost always falsely, and the media becomes an ally in publishing those lies, fed to them directly by the SJWs involved.

8. Victory Parade. “[SJWs] repeatedly display the corpse in a ritual manner, to demoralize anyone else who might otherwise be inclined to challenge their Narrative.” If the target has a Wikipedia page, it will be promptly updated with their latest thoughtcrimes.

The easiest way to stop this attack cycle is to gather support from allies and not apologize. The apology plays into their hands and makes the situation worse, which is why Vox implores his readers to never apologize to SJWs.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-31   15:04:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#3)

No Ted Nugent is right if the snowflakes can't handle it let them melt.

Exactly.

And they always melt when conservative hit back.

The Nuge is stepping up when no one would. Let the Snowflakes feel the heat.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-31   15:05:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Tooconservative (#4) (Edited)

We're winning the gun debate, no matter how many Child Leaders the Left drags in front of willing camera crews.

This BS isn't only about the gun debate; This is another front being waged by an emboldened Left that believes it can parade an army of "Child-Men/Women" and get their propaganda out there WITH IMPUNITY.

Perception = Reality for the Pods.

Just because you and I won't buy what Hogg is selling doesn't mean the mentally weak and young and ignorant won't.

The Left is WINNING this public opinion battle just as long as the vulgar Hogg gets his cheapshots in because as usual, the LEFT frames the narrative. And thus far, this has been a free ride for their proxy Liberal-Dem hit-man, Master David Hogg, who...IS IMMUNE FROM CRIRICISM (And whatever happened to "RESPECT YOUR ELDERS!"? "RESPECT ADULTS!"? Oh that's right -- those quaint maxims now no longer apply.)

If the Left doesn't hit a brick wall, they'll continue to use and exploit the situation where insane Leftist "children" get to bully conservatives who can't criticize or B-slap disrespectful little SJW punks.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-31   15:15:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Tooconservative (#4)

This sort of outrage-of-the-day doesn't help that. It sounds more like Nugent just needing to get some attention.

It sounds more like Nugent just needing to get some attention.

From where I stand, again, Nugent is tired of the propaganda and MSM glorification and lionizing of this vulgar punk, David Hogg. So are millions of conservatives. Enough is enough.

What will you say or do when the MSM-Democrat Complex has invented a hundred more David Hoggs to shove in front of every TV camera in existance? A thousand?

If articulate 17 year old conservatives were given a platform from CNN/NBC/ABC/CBS NYT/WaPo as a matter of balance, that'd be fine. But they aren't.

The Left found a one-sided loophole from which to attack Conservatives, common sense & decency, AND our defense of the US Constitution.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-31   15:23:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Liberator (#10)

The Left found a one-sided loophole from which to attack Conservatives

What is that?

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-31   15:26:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Liberator (#7)

Arguably, wouldn't you say David Hogg is NOW considered an "Entertainer"??

A useful idiot for the Left, collecting his 15 minutes of fame over some dead classmates.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-03-31   15:48:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: buckeroo (#11)

What is that? [Loophole]

Using Leftist "children" as human shields to promote their fascist-Stalinist ideology.

If you read any of my post you'd see the Left's Battle Plan for this.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-31   15:50:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Liberator (#9)

This BS isn't only about the gun debate; This is another front being waged by an emboldened Left that believes it can parade an army of "Child-Men/Women" and get their propaganda out there WITH IMPUNITY.

This is mostly another version of The Resistance to that Russian Manchurian candidate, Trump. It's intended to stimulate cohesion and determination to win back House and Senate seats, and to increase Dem voter registration and involvement with their efforts to elect Dems, even if only online.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-03-31   15:52:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Liberator (#10)

What will you say or do when the MSM-Democrat Complex has invented a hundred more David Hoggs to shove in front of every TV camera in existance? A thousand?

As we saw with Sandra Fluke and a similar effort for her on 0bamaCare, we already see this whole youth anti-gun movement will boil down to just one kid, probably the girl with the shaved head.

So we'll see the Dems deploy these two kids in much the same way they did with Sandra Fluke. And we shouldn't be surprised, this stuff is straight from the Alinsky playbook.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-03-31   15:56:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Tooconservative (#12)

A useful idiot for the Left, collecting his 15 minutes of fame over some dead classmates.

That too.

But it doesn't stop the Left, the MSM, and their evil allies from using Hogg as a dangerous prop and war proxy, does it? The kid IS INDEED an "entertainer." Hogg is the Left's version of a Muzzie kid strapping a bomb to his waist. FOR THE CAUSE.

This "useful idiot of the Left" has been successfully weaponized already in facilitating and advancing the Left's agenda on a few fronts.

During his FIRST 15 minutes we just saw what happens when a finger was laid on him. Pro-Liberal-Left corporate sponsors attacked Laura Ingraham.

The dead classmates are just collateral damage who served The Cause.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-31   15:58:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Liberator (#16)

The dead classmates are just collateral damage who served The Cause.

You mean like Cindy Shehan's son was, and then her relationship with her husband and other kids when she went off her rocker and started camping in the ditch near Bush's ranch in Texas?

The Left will use and discard these kids, just as they did with Sheehan and with Fluke. And others. But those were other prominent examples of Useful Idiots that the Left and libmedia combined to promote relentlessly and whose names most of us still recognize now, years later.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-03-31   16:02:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Tooconservative (#14)

This is mostly another version of The Resistance to that Russian Manchurian candidate, Trump. It's intended to stimulate cohesion and determination to win back House and Senate seats, and to increase Dem voter registration and involvement with their efforts to elect Dems, even if only online.

Yes, this analysis of yours and result of weaponizing of Hogg as an election tool applies as well. Especially with the (fake) messaging and (mis)perception that conservatives/GOP are "bullies of our children."

The Left has been sneaky about this...in broad daylight. Due to the Lets monopoly of Media, The Right (or rather "conservatives") do not possess this "weaponry." Fact is, our only "weaponry" to fight the Left's lies and propaganda seems to be...nothing but The Truth. Is it enough to win the day?

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-31   16:05:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Tooconservative (#15)

As we saw with Sandra Fluke and a similar effort for her on 0bamaCare, we already see this whole youth anti-gun movement will boil down to just one kid, probably the girl with the shaved head.

So we'll see the Dems deploy these two kids in much the same way they did with Sandra Fluke. And we shouldn't be surprised, this stuff is straight from the Alinsky playbook.

Yup.

That optic of Hogg and the Lezbo Cue-Ball is etched in the mind of America.

We don't know if it's a plus or minus for Dems yet. Pubbies have been understandably reluctant to attack "kids," ergo, the Impunity and "loophole" by the Dem-Left in this war of ideas and ideology.

Yes, same Alinskity-ite technique only the shameless Dems are using "kids" instead of a Fluke with the fake battle cry of "Don't Let Them Steal Our BBC!!"

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-31   16:09:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Tooconservative (#17) (Edited)

Lol...Good example: Cindy Sheehan and son (the prop.) Temp celebs. Long forgotten.

That was a long time ago...before Twitter, G00gle and YouTube were censoring conservatives.

The Left as you know is going into their YUGE bag of tricks and pulling out all the stops to win the mid terms. In Hogg I'm afraid they found gold. Unless someone (Nuge) or something (the punk's past/his parents subversion) is exposed.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-31   16:15:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Liberator (#19)

Pubbies have been understandably reluctant to attack "kids,"

Not true, at all.

David Hogg would’ve made a good brownshirt

David Hogg, the Marjory Stoneman Douglas high-schooler who seems to have set himself up as Laura Ingraham’s arch nemesis, has been making national television rounds of late, pretty much calling for adults to step aside and let the teenagers rule — because hey, who knows better how to run a country than a kid. And now he’s demanding Ingraham of Fox News denounce her network — her employer — else he’ll keep up his call for advertisers to boycott. Hogg would’ve made a pretty decent brownshirt back in the pre-World War II day. Those are the National Socialist party people who ran around Germany strong-arming and bullying and intimidating the general populace into accepting the goals of the Nazi organization. Not saying Hogg’s one now — goodness, no. There are advertisers to consider, of course. Just saying his demeanor, his rhetoric, his whiney demands, his illogical views of the Second Amendment, his refusal to consider facts and historical truths over emotionally charged screams — all that, added up and considered, suggests he may have missed his calling by a few decades, and an Atlantic Ocean. Here’s the latest: Ingraham, on a tweet, wrote: “David Hogg Rejected By Four Colleges To Which He Applied and whines about it. (Dinged by UCLA with a 4.1 GPA … totally predictable given acceptance rates.)” Hogg apparently found that tweet offensive, not because it presented false information but rather because it hurt his widdle feelings and he felt mocked. So he called for a boycott of Ingraham’s advertisers and listed her top 12 on Twitter.

A bunch of advertisers did pull. Then Ingraham again took to Twitter and apologized — for something that really doesn’t need apology, for that matter. What did she say in the first place that was so wrong? Anyhow, her followup tweet went like this: “Any student should be proud of a 4.2 GPA — incl. @DavidHogg111. On reflection, in the spirit of Holy Week, I apologize for any upset or hurt my tweet caused him or any of the brave victims of Parkland. For the record, I believe my show was the first to feature David…(1/2).” And then this one: “…immediately after that horrific shooting and even noted how ‘poised’ he was given the tragedy. As always, he’s welcome to return to the show anytime for a productive discussion.” She even included a link to the video clip of her interview with him — giving the guy even more media face time. But Hogg wasn’t having any of it. Here’s how he responded: “I 100% agree an apology in an effort just to save your advertisers is not enough. I will only accept your apology only if you denounce the way your network has treated my friends and I in this fight. It’s time to love thy neighbor, not mudsling at children.” Whaah. Advertisers should have more guts than to cave on a matter so minute as Hoggs’ hurt feelings. Ingraham’s apology was far above what he deserved. And if Hogg wants to be taken seriously and regarded as a leader of movement against violence, he needs to drop the brownshirt-type bully tactics and toughen his skin.


Hogg is one nasty disciple of BIG POLITICKS.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-31   16:22:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Liberator (#20)

The Left as you know is going into their YUGE bag of tricks and pulling out all the stops to win the mid terms. In Hogg I'm afraid they found gold. Unless someone (Nuge) or something (the punk's past/his parents subversion) is exposed.

I think his 15 minutes of fame are just about up. He's reckless.

The Bald Girl is more effective overall. She might have a little longer shelf life for the Left/libmedia anti-gun/voter-registration effort.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-03-31   16:27:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: buckeroo (#21)

Whomever wrote that rebuttal was SPOT ON.

The point is that even though Ingraham had NO reason to apologize...SHE DID. (and as explained in the book excerpt from SJWs Always Lie, the techniques and results are predictable when a conservative DOES apologize even a little.)

And the Left -- being the Nazis they are -- circled the wagon and acted even MORE Nazi-like in doing so.

Oh...and yes, "Pubbies HAVE been understandably reluctant to attack 'kids'". They are such cowards over this that few have met the challenge. Who of note has? I'm counting one TED NUGENT. (None on the televised network (that leaves just one: FNC).

Hogg is one nasty punk. Hard to see his performance ending well.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-31   16:35:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Tooconservative (#22) (Edited)

I think his 15 minutes of fame are just about up. He's reckless.

He IS reckless...but like a kid taking daddy's Vette out on a joy ride, he hasn't crashed into the wall. YET. So its pedal to the metal until he does.

Cue-Ball Lezbo. You think she's got more potential? You may be right regarding her role as a voter-registration tool. But as far as her nasty optics, they were just turrible.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-31   16:39:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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