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Title: Yes, white ‘privilege’ is still the problem
Source: Chicago Tribune
URL Source: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ ... en-glanton-20180328-story.html
Published: Mar 29, 2018
Author: Dahleen Glanton
Post Date: 2018-03-30 13:13:35 by misterwhite
Keywords: None
Views: 4173
Comments: 37

People are uncomfortable with the term “privileged.”

Several readers took offense recently when I differentiated between privileged youths and underprivileged youths in a column about the March for Our Lives.

“Categorizing and generalizing of this type are just veiled forms of discrimination and/or racism,” one man wrote.

I’d like to take this opportunity to set the record straight.

If you are a white person in America, you were born privileged. That’s just a fact.

It’s nothing to be ashamed of. It’s not anybody’s fault. There’s no need to get defensive about it.

The best thing to do is just acknowledge it.

Being privileged does not necessarily mean that you have a perfect life. It does not mean that you come from wealth or that you always obtain everything you want — or deserve.

It doesn’t give you a pass to be lazy and shiftless. It doesn’t automatically guarantee you success. White skin no more relieves you of taking responsibility for your life, working hard and thinking smart than it does for people with dark skin.

It just means that you have a head start over the rest of us.

White privilege means that you were born with an inherent advantage over every other race of people. The whiteness of your skin alone allows you to leave the starting gate quicker and to run the race with fewer obstacles. White skin comes with certain other perks, too, many of which are taken for granted.

American culture itself is white-centric. For example, as an African-American woman, I can rarely find makeup that matches my exact skin tone. Though cosmetics companies have gotten a lot better at adding more diverse colors to their lines, I still most often have to buy two shades and mix them together to get a match.

That’s just an inconvenience, though. Other issues require much more attention.

If you were born white, you are likely to earn more money than an African-American or Hispanic co-worker who does the same work. You are more likely to be considered for a promotion than a racial minority who is just as qualified. Numerous studies back this up.

Let’s be clear, though. This has nothing do with a person’s actual level of intelligence. It has nothing to do with how talented or untalented someone really is. It has nothing to do with the kind of human being someone is. It is all about perception.

But the perception many white people have about other white people — whether it is conscious or subconscious — is that they are smarter, more ambitious, more dependable and harder working than African-Americans.

“Privilege is hard work and sacrifice. Then when paid for this hard work … others who do nothing get jealous and bring race into it,” a woman emailed me.

Not so.

Black and brown people have no reason to be angry with white people for being born white. We don’t buy into the adage that because someone happened to be white, they are smarter than the rest of us. Nor do we believe that every white person seated at the head table deserves a space there.

What we do understand is that white skin opens doors that often slam shut in the faces of dark skin. That’s what we have a problem with.

It is easy to blame the staggering unemployment rates among African-Americans and Hispanics on their lack of education, training or individual initiative. In America, we like to think that the dream can be achieved by anyone who works hard to attain it. But that simply isn’t true.

The reality is that blacks and Latinos have never gotten an equal shake. When affirmative action sought to level the playing field, white people got mad and put an end to it.

As a result, hiring discrimination based on race remains alive and well, meaning blacks and Hispanics have to work twice as hard just to get a foot in the door.

Last year, researchers at Northwestern University, Harvard University and the Institute of Social Research in Oslo, Norway, reviewed multiple studies and concluded that the level of hiring discrimination against African-Americans had not changed in 25 years.

According to the data, whites receive on average 36 percent more callbacks than blacks, and 24 percent more callbacks than Latinos. When employers don’t even bother to call you back, that means you don’t get the job.

Until the country reverses itself and African-Americans are sitting in all those glass offices at businesses and major corporations, white people will never have to worry about being discriminated against because of their race.

The subtle and sometimes overt biases against African-Americans begin long before adulthood. African-American men, in particular, often spend a lifetime trying to overcome tags that are placed on their backs as soon as they enter kindergarten.

Research shows that black boys are much more likely to be labeled as troublemakers than white boys. According to a U.S. Department of Education report, black children — particularly boys — are nearly four times more likely to be suspended from school than white children.

When young white people get into trouble, adults are much more empathetic than they are to African-Americans who experience similar problems.

Just look at the opioid epidemic. When shooting up heroin became a crisis among white kids, the country rushed to embrace them, saying, “Don’t worry, we’re going to figure out how to help you.” Money was poured into counseling and rehab.

When black kids got hooked on crack cocaine in the 1980s, America said, “Toss those thugs in jail.” When there weren’t enough jails to hold all of them, we poured money into building more.

This is what white privilege looks like.

As long as there’s a need to talk about race and class in America, I’ll continue to use the terms privileged and underprivileged. You might want to hold on to this column as a reference.

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#1. To: All (#0)

If you were born white, you are likely to earn more money than an African-American or Hispanic co-worker who does the same work.

Who does the same work? Not true. Why would any employer pay a white worker more money to do the same work as an African-American worker?

Now it is true that the median weekly wage for African American workers is about 74 percent of white workers -- but that's due to a number of factors such as education and occupation.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-03-30   13:23:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: misterwhite, trolling.... (#0)

Why is whitey posting this divisive garbage?

Answer:--- He's doing what Trolls Do...

tpaine  posted on  2018-03-30   13:34:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#0)

White privilege means that you were born with an inherent advantage over every other race of people.

Because white people earned that privilege over centuries of accomplishments and social behavior. It is what it is.

But this privilege means that we have to prove ourselves every day. We get no special legal protections. No preferences. No quotas apply to us. We don't get a special "whites-only" graduation ceremony or a Miss White America contest or a United White College Fund or an NAAWP or a White Caucus in Congress or White Entertainment Television.

As a matter of fact, it's racist to believe that all white people are born privileged. That's like me saying all black people are born lazy.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-03-30   13:45:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: misterwhite, all (#0) (Edited)

This "White Privilege" meme was likely first heavily promoted at the University level back in 2013 at about the same time the supposed "different" gender spectrum were promoted.

How do I know?

Some of you may have recalled my uber militant liberal/Atheist University Prof childhood bud of mine, who first informed me of such "realities" (they were a joke to me then).

He then boasted of wishing he could teach that stuff IN A STADIUM. He had been proudly teaching both the "White Privilege" meme as well as the "cis-gender" and other sexual designations at a well-known NY-NJ University. He was shocked that I not only hadn't been aware of either, but that I ridiculed the memes. NOW look at where we are in just over 4 years. (Thanks, 0bama).

Had my good friend survived till today, he's have LOVED the liberal-Leftist CRAP that's been swirling down the ol' porcelain memory hole. He'd have taken some credit for it. AND likely had an 8 x 10 glossy of David Hogg on his mantle.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-30   14:01:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: misterwhite (#3)

It is called, "social evolution." Many of the blacks are evolving within an established white culture; the white culture has persisted for centuries. It takes decades to attain the same status; nothing to cry about at all.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-30   14:04:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: misterwhite (#3)

White people earned that privilege over centuries of accomplishments and social behavior. It is what it is.

But this privilege means that we have to prove ourselves every day. We get no special legal protections. No preferences. No quotas apply to us. We don't get a special "whites-only" graduation ceremony or a Miss White America contest or a United White College Fund or an NAAWP or a White Caucus in Congress or White Entertainment Television.

As a matter of fact, it's racist to believe that all white people are born privileged. That's like me saying all black people are born lazy.

+100.

SPOT ON!

So who will speak in public for Whitey? (without being charged for "Hate Speech"?)

We are in a dangerous spot in America. The Communists, Anarchists, Muzzies, AND especially NWO Elites have purposely rigged CW2. They've created a minefield of hate and division. Avoiding it will be almost impossible.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-30   14:05:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: misterwhite (#0)

This author seems dedicated to anti-white and black victim issues. That's all she writes about. Maybe she should give up her $200,000 a year job at the Chicago Tribune and go help black people in the ghettos if she feels so strongly.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2018-03-30   14:06:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: tpaine, misterwhite (#2)

Why is whitey posting this divisive garbage?

Answer:--- He's doing what Trolls Do...

Come on, Paine -- Did you even read this article?

Is it possible you're letting your personal animus get in the way of impartial critiquing of what is actually an enlightening essay of observations?

"Divisive" is the reality of Leftist-Democrat politics and a MSM that is obviously compensated to troll America, collude with Dem Party politics, AND PROMOTE "divisiveness."

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-30   14:10:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: no gnu taxes, tpaine (#7)

This author seems dedicated to anti-white and black victim issues. That's all she writes about.

Yup. The author a professional, compensated Racist ad Liar stoking the fires of societal enmity and hate. These are 18" shells fired FROM THE BIG GUN DECK OF THE USS CHICAGO TRIBUNE.

Conservatives and Whitey -- should they retaliate or defend themselves from this kind of bigotry and cheapshot journalism -- will immediately be pounced on as "Racist" and "Divisive" by the Democrat-MSM Complex. Oh, the irony.

This kind of unleashed yellow-"blackish" literary salvo is a rigged WIN-WIN for Dems and BLMers, and a LOSE-LOSE for conservatives and honest whites. We're just witnessed the spin and blackmail in the Hogg-Ingraham brew-ha-ha where sponsers are blackmailing FNC.

Maybe she should give up her $200,000 a year job at the Chicago Tribune and go help black people in the ghettos if she feels so strongly.

For some reason, these hypocritical merchants-of-hate and racist saboteurs of America NEVER put their money where their bigmouths are.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-30   14:22:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: no gnu taxes (#7)

Maybe she should give up her $200,000 a year job at the Chicago Tribune

I can do without a black woman making $200K per year accusing me of white privilege. Naturally, my first reaction is to question how she got that job and if Affirmative Action had anything to do with it.

As for helping black people in the ghettos, she'd need directions on how to get there.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-03-30   15:11:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Liberator (#8)

Come on, Paine -- Did you even read this article?

Read? There was no one around to read it to him.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-03-30   15:13:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: misterwhite (#0)

Frizzy hair

Frizzy brains

Too many chiTlins

FloaTing around in There

Love
boris

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2018-03-30   15:22:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: misterwhite (#0)

You are more likely to be considered for a promotion than a racial minority who is just as qualified. Numerous studies back this up.

Let’s be clear, though. This has nothing do with a person’s actual level of intelligence. It has nothing to do with how talented or untalented someone really is.

Prove it!

rlk  posted on  2018-03-30   16:10:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: misterwhite (#0) (Edited)

If you are a white person in America, you were born privileged. That’s just a fact.

Yeah,if that's true,why is there so much white trash laying about,voting for Dims?

This goober shows what happens when you match a 5 dollar diploma with a 2 Dollar mind.

White privilege means that you were born with an inherent advantage over every other race of people. The whiteness of your skin alone allows you to leave the starting gate quicker and to run the race with fewer obstacles. White skin comes with certain other perks, too, many of which are taken for granted.

He even has that backwards. In this day of social engineering,AA,and minority setasides,a white skin is a disadvantage,and being born black or brown means you are born crossing the finish line.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-30   17:06:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: misterwhite (#0)

Black and brown people have no reason to be angry with white people for being born white.

That's awful white of you.

We don’t buy into the adage that because someone happened to be white, they are smarter than the rest of us. Nor do we believe that every white person seated at the head table deserves a space there.

Thank you for admitting you are a racist,but I suspect you are too stupid to understand what you wrote. It's not YOUR fault somebody gave you an AA degree.

What we do understand is that white skin opens doors that often slam shut in the faces of dark skin. That’s what we have a problem with.

Maybe you should try opening a door without a mask on your face and a gun in your hand?

It is easy to blame the staggering unemployment rates among African-Americans and Hispanics on their lack of education, training or individual initiative.

Well,in addition to all that,it is their criminal records and inability to speak understandable English. Dressing like their thug criminal heroes at job interviews doesn't help,either. Besides,it's easier to spend a couple of hours a day selling drugs and pimping out your sister for more money that a job you are qualified to hold would pay you in a week.

When affirmative action sought to level the playing field, white people got mad and put an end to it.

SAY WHAT?????

WHEN did this happen? Why wasn't it in the news?

Research shows that black boys are much more likely to be labeled as troublemakers than white boys.

Gee,I wonder why? Could it be because they travel around in packs dressed like their gangsta/pimp heroes,and ratpack any white person they find that looks like he or she can't defend themselves?

When young white people get into trouble, adults are much more empathetic than they are to African-Americans who experience similar problems.

It just seems that way because most white people know who their fathers are,so naturally they have more relatives show up if they get arrested.

The author of this brain fart HAS to be one of the dumbest MoFo's I have ever heard of,yet SHE got a job. I can guarantee you that no white women in America could do that unless her daddy or husband owned the newspaper.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-30   17:29:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: rlk (#13)

You are more likely to be considered for a promotion than a racial minority who is just as qualified.

Give me a break. If a company truly had two equally qualified candidates -- one white, one black -- you know they'd promote the black.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-03-30   17:46:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Liberator (#8) (Edited)

Why is whitey posting this divisive garbage? Answer:--- He's doing what Trolls Do...

Come on, Paine -- Did you even read this article?

Is it possible you're letting your personal animus get in the way of impartial critiquing of what is actually an enlightening essay of observations?

"Divisive" is the reality of Leftist-Democrat politics and a MSM that is obviously compensated to troll America, collude with Dem Party politics, AND PROMOTE "divisiveness." this article?

Yep, I read this article, and I agree with your comment that: ----

"Divisive" is the reality of Leftist-Democrat politics and a MSM that is obviously compensated to troll America, collude with Dem Party politics, AND PROMOTE "divisiveness." ------- Is it possible you're letting your personal animus get in the way of impartial critiquing of what is actually an enlightening essay of observations? "

Yep, there you have it, to misterwhite (the troll), this actually IS --- "an enlightening essay of observations."

For proof, look at one of his first comments at #3: ---

"White privilege means that you were born with an inherent advantage over every other race of people. ------ Because white people earned that privilege over centuries of accomplishments and social behavior. It is what it is."

Anyone can read books like 'Guns, Germs, and Steel' to find out why our Western European civilization became the first to attain those accomplishments. -- But I don't feel it gives me any privileges.

The leftist author, and misterwhite do... Because they are divisive trolls.

tpaine  posted on  2018-03-31   14:29:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: tpaine (#17)

I get it; We all have our "troll" considerations.

But we can still agree with an article or idea and not marry the poster, right? ;-)

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-31   14:35:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Liberator (#18) (Edited)

we can still agree with an article or idea and not marry the poster, right? ;-)

See my edit. (#17)

To me this article is trolling. -- And the poster is a troll.

tpaine  posted on  2018-03-31   15:07:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: tpaine, misterwhite (#19)

For proof, look at one of his first comments at #3: ---

"White privilege means that you were born with an inherent advantage over every other race of people. ------ Because white people earned that privilege over centuries of accomplishments and social behavior. It is what it is."

Frankly, I saw nothing wrong or dishonest about the comment.

In my opinion, HIS opinion/posts require necessarily reading into his context.

Which part do you find dishonest, untrue, or "troll-ish"? And why?

He spoke of an "inherent advantage" or so-called "privilege" -- "earned" via "centuries of accomplishments and social behavior."

Misterwhite was merely reviewing the bedrock traits of how European civilization attained success that now translates to contemporary man.

HIS context was complimentary and true; The author's context was contemptuous and dishonest. I didn't perceive them as ideological allies at all.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-31   15:32:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: All, misterwhite is a troll (#19)

Misterwhite has long advocated (since FR) that local and State governments have the power to ignore our Bill of Rights and write any infringements they please.

He's very sly about actually writing those views, and is getting better in his wordsmithing.

My opposition is not personal animosity, it's a difference in constitutional viewpoints..

-- Quite some time ago paulson/white stopped trying to debate issues but if anything, he's increased his agitprop efforts, as above..

tpaine  posted on  2018-03-31   15:36:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: tpaine, misterwhite (#21)

My opposition is not personal animosity, it's a difference in constitutional viewpoints..

That's fair enough.

None of us agrees with all of us all of the time.

Yes, MW's ideologogy is a bit over-officious at time, an advocate of Bigger Gummint. He'd probably admit it himself since it's the case.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-31   15:48:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: tpaine, misterwhite (#21)

We have to work more diligently about convincing misterwhite about libertarianism being the only way out of this mess that was created by the two party system. If he is still clinging to his authoritarian views, it is because we have failed to convince him.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-31   15:56:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Liberator (#20)

Which part do you find dishonest, untrue, or "troll-ish"?

Yep, there you have it, to misterwhite (the troll), this actually IS --- "an enlightening essay of observations."

For proof, look at one of his first comments at #3, ---- IT is dishonest, untrue, and "troll-ish".

"White privilege means that you were born with an inherent advantage over every other race of people. ------ Because white people earned that privilege over centuries of accomplishments and social behavior. It is what it is."

Anyone can read books like 'Guns, Germs, and Steel' to find out why our Western European civilization became the first to attain those accomplishments. -- But I don't feel it gives me any privileges.

Do you have any comment on my rebuttal directly above?

We agree that the author's context was contemptuous and dishonest.

We disagree about misterwhite agenda. -- I've been seeing it for almost 20 years, and believe me, he is NOT a supporter of our Constitution.

tpaine  posted on  2018-03-31   16:04:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: buckeroo (#23)

We have to work more diligently about convincing misterwhite about libertarianism being the only way out of this mess that was created by the two party system. If he is still clinging to his authoritarian views, it is because we have failed to convince him.

I know you're sincere, but forgive me, I laughed about your naivety in thinking that an anti-constitutionalist (misterwhite) could change like that..

Sorry bout the cynicism...

tpaine  posted on  2018-03-31   16:16:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: tpaine, misterwhite (#24)

Do you have any comment on my rebuttal directly above?

Anyone can read books like 'Guns, Germs, and Steel' to find out why our Western European civilization became the first to attain those accomplishments. -- But I don't feel it gives me any privileges.

Comment on the book?

Or MW's quotes?

Context?

With respect to the term, "White Privilege," it's a slur, words of war. BUT can purposely be ambiguous.

MW definition of what "White Privilege" means (IF such a term is even honest) or how it came to be -- is it untrue or wrong?

As to the question of MW's fidelity to the USCON, yes, we already established that he can support an over-officious position.

Are there any changes either one of us would make to it? You betcha (in my case anyway.)

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-31   16:23:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Liberator (#26)

Comment on the book?

Or MW's quotes?

Context?

With respect to the term, "White Privilege," it's a slur, words of war. BUT can purposely be ambiguous.

MW definition of what "White Privilege" means (IF such a term is even honest) or how it came to be -- is it untrue or wrong?

As to the question of MW's fidelity to the USCON, yes, we already established that he can support an over-officious position.

The following is dishonest, untrue, and "troll-ish".

"White privilege means that you were born with an inherent advantage over every other race of people. ------ Because white people earned that privilege over centuries of accomplishments and social behavior. It is what it is." --- misterwhite

Anyone can read books like 'Guns, Germs, and Steel' to find out why our Western European civilization became the first to attain those accomplishments. -- But I don't feel it gives me any privileges. --- tpaine

In context, to the statement --- "white people earned that privilege over centuries of accomplishments and social behavior" -----

I replied: ---

Anyone can read books like 'Guns, Germs, and Steel' to find out why our Western European civilization became the first to attain those accomplishments.

To the statement ---- "white people earned that privilege"---

I replied: -----

But I don't feel it (that historical accomplishment) gives me any privileges.

Does that clarify my remarks?

tpaine  posted on  2018-03-31   16:44:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: tpaine, misterwhite (#27)

To the statement ---- "white people earned that privilege"---

I replied: -----

But I don't feel it (that historical accomplishment) gives me any privileges.

Does that clarify my remarks?

YES. Thanks.

I think it's a matter of context and intent of statement. My perspective: You both hit the meme from different directions.

I believe MW was merely validating the "earning" facet of the fake "Privilege" meme, given our Western Civ ancestors set up a successful system based on morality and ethics.

I believe YOU were in-validating the fakery and lie of the "White Privilege" meme in the context of "ill-gotten" or "inherited." You reject the notion of any personal accomplishment or achievement as un-earned.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-31   16:53:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Liberator (#28)

I believe MW was merely validating the "earning" facet of the fake "Privilege" meme, given our Western Civ ancestors set up a successful system based on morality and ethics.

Here's what he agreed with, - as a privilege:: ---

"Because white people earned that privilege" --- (they were born with an inherent advantage over every other race of people, a privilege) ---- "over centuries of accomplishments and social behavior. It is what it is." --- misterwhite

I'd say he's far beyond mere validating, -- he's agreeing with the authors premise.

In my opinion our Western Civ ancestors set up a successful system based on the scientific method and technology.

Certainly, our morality and ethic systems helped, and still may be why we continue, --- to lead the world.

tpaine  posted on  2018-03-31   18:03:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Liberator (#26)

With respect to the term, "White Privilege," it's a slur, words of war.

It's used as a slur because it supposedly explains why blacks can't compete. White privilege is pre-judging in a positive way. Blacks are pre-judged in a negative way.

My response is, who's fault is that? If blacks continue to behave negatively, then that's how they'll be judged.

“There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps... then turn around and see somebody white and feel relieved.”
-- Jesse Jackson

misterwhite  posted on  2018-03-31   18:15:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: buckeroo (#23)

about libertarianism being the only way out of this mess

Libertarianism can only work among responsible adults.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-03-31   18:18:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: misterwhite (#31) (Edited)

I think you meant to suggest, "the educated citizenry." Since WW2, the educational levels of Americans with respect the rest of the world has plummeted as the USA has paraded it's WW2 win as an outright victory over the world FOREVER; this has been an irresponsible action right from the top of government, just as the increasing debt that is now well over 21TR.

The leaders in US government are irresponsible and are outright liars to the citizenry about their effectiveness and efficiency in handling government operations.

You have cockpit error.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-31   18:27:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: tpaine, misterwhite (#29)

"Because white people earned that privilege" --- (they were born with an inherent advantage over every other race of people, a privilege) ---- "over centuries of accomplishments and social behavior. It is what it is." --- misterwhite

I'd say he's far beyond mere validating, -- he's agreeing with the authors premise.

Paine....

Upon reading, re-reading, then re-reading once again, I've determined that there are several issues touched on and points made in this essay by the Marxist columnist. Some are straight-forward; others subtle; others are inadvertently or accidentally blatantly made.

I don't believe the author's primary premise is purposely evil. More like misguided. Ignorant. Eventually insane. Imbued in extreme jealous, envy, and covetousness -- the traits of a lazy "gibs-me-dat" Marxist revolutionary.

She accidentally buoys the contention that past descendants and system developed and established by Western Civ have indeed set up future generation for...SUCCESS! Why should that be wrong? It's not. But to a Marxist it is.

Where she gets it wrong is in admittedly making her beef about...RACE. And CLASS. That is, RACE AND CLASS ENVY -- Communism's two-headed monster that creates revolution.

(The author: "As long as there’s a need to talk about race and class in America, I’ll continue to use the terms privileged and underprivileged."

In other words, she's use language as a weapon with which to recruit a neo-Marxist army of fake victims and malcontents who don't want to earn their wealth but instead want to "kinda spread the wealth around." (As Marxist 0bama once admitted to "Joe-The-Plumber".)

The Leftist-Marxist author also gets it wrong by anointing herself and her ilk judges and arbiters of language. And by dismissing the universal metrics of success: Personal sacrifice and commitment; ethic of hard work and personal responsibility; and viewing "success" in personal terms, NOT in terms of the working "For-the-Village", motivated by envy or onbehalf of the tribe or herd. But that's how young Leftist roll, isn't it? WE WANT IT NOW!! It didn't work in the USSR or Cuba or Venezuela.

The author really demonstrates her willful blindness by ignoring the obvious: America's "Inherent" success was created by EUROPEANS who emigrated to America.

They happened to be WHITE. AND CHRISTIAN. Its culture and system of wealth was EUROPEAN-Capitalism. The glue that held it together was Christian-centric, a citizenry bound by and large by Biblical morality and ethics. All THAT was passed down through generation.

Their CONTINUED success was maintained as a result of committed two-parent families, a work ethic and morality, and meritocratic value system. Late 19th century and early 20th century Italian, Jewish, Polish, and other European immigrants were dirt poor initially. The author ignores their struggles and prejudices faced.

Ok, I know you want to return here:

Here's what he agreed with, - as a privilege: ---

"Because white people earned that privilege" --- (they were born with an inherent advantage over every other race of people, a privilege) ---- "over centuries of accomplishments and social behavior. It is what it is." --- misterwhite

Now you:

"In my opinion our Western Civ ancestors set up a successful system based on the scientific method and technology. Certainly, our morality and ethic systems helped, and still may be why we continue, --- to lead the world."

Who' right? BOTH of you.

What is the difference between what you said and what MW said? (and what I believe?) Or "inherent advantage over every other race of people"? That's a fact. European cultural success did begin "centuries ago." The reasons for its success were explained by both of us. Without systems of morality and ethics and meritocracy, Europe could have never developed in the sciences and beyond the rest of the world's pagan-tribal system.

The author demands that we should feel shame for our Western European ancestors beliefs, achievements and system rooted in faith and ethics. The author demands reparations. The author demands she be stroked with one hand and handed a check with another. JUST BECAUSE of the magic word, "Privilege." THAT is the overlying insane premise of the author...

MW does not agree. I do not agree. And assume you also do not agree. So beyond the actual meat of the author's "Woe-Is-Me" -- White = "Prividge", Non-White = "Victim", what should we be outraged over?

Is your original beef over MW consenting to accept the Leftist-concocted negative connotation and meme of "Privilege"? Or that IF we are indeed "advantaged", why deny it? Respect is earned.

It's not our fault that the resumes of socialists read like a rap-sheet with school grades that reflect unmotivated mediocrity and inconsistency.

It's not our fault lazy young "unprivileged" socialist parents and extended family didn't help them establish values and ethics and priorities.

It's not our fault that lazy young "unprivileged" socialists continue to wallow in self-pity and envy instead of committing to an American system where non-White Asians are even MORE successful than "Privileged" Whites.

Last thing; You and MW are never going to see eye to eye. But in CW2 I'd bet the two of you would become allies because THIS Marxist enemy will toss BOTH of you in their FEMA Camp.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-31   19:37:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: misterwhite (#30)

It's used as a slur because it supposedly explains why blacks can't compete.

White privilege is pre-judging in a positive way. Blacks are pre-judged in a negative way.

My response is, who's fault is that? If blacks continue to behave negatively, then that's how they'll be judged.

Agree.

Your response is logical and fact-based without all the noise from Marxist Academics. They hope to win this war of reparations via propaganda and guilt.

Whatever happened to the restaurant that began charging Whites far more money for the same exact meal? Did you notice ZERO outrage from the MSM? Where was the boycott for THAT? Or lawsuit from the state AG??

Btw, there seems to be NO primitive barbarian behavior by blacks that evoke MSM outrage; We see the exact same scenario play out in Europe as Muzzies tear that place up: Their MSM and gummints do not prosecute.

The citizenry of USA by and large won't play that game, but then we don't own the nation's institutions either. The professional Marxists, Muzzies, and Homofascists 0bama booby-trapped set-ups and saboteurs DO.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-31   19:58:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Liberator (#34)

Btw, there seems to be NO primitive barbarian behavior by blacks that evoke MSM outrage

Liberals cannot figure out why it is that blacks are punished for bad behavior more often than whites. They truly don't know. So they conclude it must be racism ... or white privilege.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-03-31   20:09:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Liberator (#33)

Ok, I know you want to return here:

Here's what he agreed with, - as a privilege: --

"Because white people earned that privilege" --- (they were born with an inherent advantage over every other race of people, a privilege) ---- "over centuries of accomplishments and social behavior. It is what it is." --- misterwhite

Now you:

"In my opinion our Western Civ ancestors set up a successful system based on the scientific method and technology. Certainly, our morality and ethic systems helped, and still may be why we continue, --- to lead the world."

Who' right? BOTH of you.

What is the difference between what you said and what MW said?

The difference is, I replied: -----

---- I don't feel it (that historical accomplishment) gives me any privileges.

Misterwhite believes: ----

---- "white people earned that privilege over centuries of accomplishments and social behavior. It is what it is." ---

tpaine  posted on  2018-03-31   20:16:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: misterwhite, Y'ALL, (#30) (Edited)

“There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps... then turn around and see somebody white and feel relieved.” -- Jesse Jackson

Good quote...

My comment about that, with apologies to Jesse: ---

At this stage in my life, -- to walk down a deserted street and hear footsteps... then turn around and see some young man, - white, black or hispanic, I would not feel relieved. ---

-- Unless I was carrying my 12ga streetsweeper.

tpaine  posted on  2018-03-31   20:29:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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