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Title: Amnesty to cost illegal immigrants $500
Source: examiner.com
URL Source: http://www.examiner.com/x-10317-San ... to-cost-illegal-immigrants-500
Published: Dec 19, 2009
Author: examiner.com
Post Date: 2009-12-19 21:34:37 by WhiteSands
Keywords: DNC, ACORN, Amnesty
Views: 37608
Comments: 82

Democrat lawmaker Luis Gutierrez (D-ILL) and the Hispanic caucus have decided the cost for those who entered the country illegally and have broken untold laws since their arrival will pay $500 to get their citizenship.

This is quite the deal as it costs many illegal immigrants $4,000 to $5,000 in coyote (human smugglers) fees to make the often treacherous walk through the country's southern borders.

The immigration bill aptly named, “Comprehensive Immigration Reform for America’s Security and Prosperity Act (H.R. 4321)” Gutierrez’s claimed he was responsible for the acronym “CIR ASAP” and hoped it would spur other lawmakers to quickly pass immigration reform legislation.

This week the Illinois Congressman announced his wish list for the illegal immigrant population, which calls for amnesty and relaxing verification tools. “This is what we want; our proposal is out of the box,” he said.

However the authors of the bill will face an uphill battle in the Senate, many of whom have already said the bill is dead on arrival. Making this even more difficult is the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, who threatened all lawmakers, the House will not take the lead in any new legislation next year. Pelosi explained in a news conference that Congress has taken the leading role all year and many Congressmen could lose their seats because they were forced to support her on a number of unpopular issues.

Although the Democrats have the numbers to easily pass immigration reform, a down economy and double-digit unemployment threatens passage of a bill, especially one as liberal as this.

Congressman Brian Bilbray (R-CA), who is on the House Immigration Reform Caucus, said the reform legislation would generate a new wave of migrants to compete with Americans currently seeking employment.

The "CIR ASAP" bill lays out the need for illegal immigrants to prove they are working, pay a $500 fine, learn English and pass a criminal background check. However, the bill didn’t include the “touchback” provision which would force all seeking amnesty to return to their home country and enter into the country legally.

“Not to be picky on the back ground checks, but if someone crosses into this country illegally and is working illegally (often with forged paperwork) wouldn’t they be considered criminals?” Steve Jones a lifelong California resident would like the President to explain how this would work. “I know if I used forged paperwork I’d go to jail and have charges on my permanent record for life.”

Details, details details.

Another point of contention is the fact country's international borders remain as porous as ever causing a lot of concern from border state law enforcement officers. Sheriff Sigi Gonzalez of Texas states his county cannot take anymore immigrants. “There’s simply no money or services left, we’re broke.”

Couple that with the fact that this bill calls for the dismantling of E-Verify. This effective system is able to obtain legal status of potential workers who are put through the computer with a 96 percent accuracy rate. Employers enjoy free access to E-Verify and are able to ensure their employees meet federal guidelines regarding legal status.

Other highlights in the bill include AgJOBS amnesty (farm workers) as well as the DREAM Act with grants automatic amnesty to those who graduated U.S. high schools and wish to attend college. This should be of particular concern to parents who are already struggling to pay college increasing tuition fees, as this bill will add much more competition to the federal grants and scholarship programs.

The bill reads like a child’s Christmas wish and judging by the up tick in tea party organizers, anti-amnesty activists and concerned American citizens the "CIR ASAP" legislation may get nothing more than coal in its stocking next year.

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#2. To: sneakypete, Ibluafartsky (#0) (Edited)

Ibluafartsky believes this is not amnesty.

This would not be amnesty under Ibluafartsky's def because of the $500.00 having to be paid.

Ibluafartsky defines amnesty here:

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5529

fer us Tards cuase we're just too stoopid to unnnerstand, dontcha know.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-20   0:20:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Wood_Chopper (#2)

fer us Tards cuase we're just too stoopid to unnnerstand, dontcha know.

You just proved what a fookin dunce you are. You agree with that liberal asshole from Illinois.

Democrat lawmaker Luis Gutierrez (D-ILL) and the Hispanic caucus have decided the cost for those who entered the country illegally and have broken untold laws since their arrival will pay $500 to get their citizenship.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-20   0:26:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Ibluafartsky (#4)

So if Democrat lawmaker Luis Gutierrez (D-ILL) gets his way, would it be amnesty?

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-20   0:29:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Wood_Chopper (#5)

would it be amnesty?

Have you ever heard of anyone purchasing amnesty? Geezus, use a fookin dictionary!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-20   0:49:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Ibluafartsky, Wood_Chopper (#14)

Have you ever heard of anyone purchasing amnesty? Geezus, use a fookin dictionary!

I don't know about him,but I have. The Catholic Church used to sell amnesty to sinners so they wouldn't go to hell,and there is at least one former US Governor that went to prison for selling amnesty. I'm pretty sure one from Tn went to prison,and I THINK maybe one from Louisiana and maybe one from Kentucky.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   9:16:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: sneakypete (#28)

The Catholic Church used to sell amnesty to sinners so they wouldn't go to hell,

You need to know the definition of amnesty versus absolution.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/AMNESTY

amnesty

One entry found.

: the act of an authority (as a government) by which pardon is granted to a large group of individuals

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-20   16:10:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Ibluafartsky (#33)

You need to know the definition of amnesty versus absolution.

Are you trying to claim the Catholic Church didn't sell "heavenly pardons" to a large number of sinners?

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   18:57:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: sneakypete (#45)

Are you trying to claim the Catholic Church didn't sell "heavenly pardons" to a large number of sinners?

You can call it whatever you want, but amnesty is granted. It has no dollar amount attached.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-20   21:29:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: sneakypete, Ibluafartsky (#47) (Edited)

You've got to understand sneakypete, Ibluafartsky believes that if everything amnesty entails is sold to illegal aliens for $500 they earned while working here illegally, it's not amnesty.

He also believes Obama, evidently, that if health care is provided to those who used to be illegal aliens after amnesty is granted, that health care would not go to illegal aliens.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-20   21:34:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Wood_Chopper, Ibluafartsky (#48)

You've got to understand sneakypete, Ibluafartsky believes that if everything amnesty entails is sold to illegal aliens for $500 they earned while working here illegally, it's not amnesty.

He believes whatever it is he has to believe to keep Saint Sarah in the running. Flat out,he is going to make whatever excuse he has to make for her.

He also believes Obama, evidently, that if health care is provided to those who used to be illegal aliens after amnesty is granted, that health care would not go to illegal aliens.

No,that's different. It's not Palin,it's Obmaa. Different standards apply.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   23:11:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: sneakypete, Wood_Chopper (#52)

He believes whatever

Sorry if you can't handle facts and accuracy. Whether it be Palin, Obama, Paul or Goode, I'll call bullshit when I see it. Amnesty is granted, it isn't purchased with cash. You can't educate those who aren't interested.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-21   0:19:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Ibluafartsky, sneakypete (#59)

Sorry if you can't handle facts and accuracy.

Here are the facts and accuracy YOU can't handle:

If it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, IT'S A FUCKING DUCK, no matter how you try to spin it.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-21   0:27:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Wood_Chopper (#61)

Here are the facts and accuracy

If it posts like a fookin moron, has the comprehension level of a fookin moron, it is Wood_Chopper, the fookin moron. Spin that!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-21   0:31:06 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Ibluafartsky (#62)

Again, thanks for the opportunity to show others exactly what you are.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-21   0:37:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Wood_Chopper (#63)

thanks for the opportunity to show others exactly what you are.

I'll take each and every opportunity to expose the fookin propagandists and shills like you.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-21   0:47:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Ibluafartsky (#64)

I'll take each and every opportunity to expose the fookin propagandists and shills like you.

Not to mention,like you.

What are you going to do if Palin turns into Ross Perot,and takes a dive too late in the fight to be replaced?

I'm betting you will vote for whatever "lesser of two evils RINO" the RINO National Committee pushes forward.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-21   7:37:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: sneakypete (#68)

What are you going to do if Palin turns into Ross Perot,

I'm betting you will vote for whatever "lesser of two evils RINO" the RINO National Committee pushes forward.

I'll worry about that if she becomes a candidate for POTUS. Right now she is doing the work of all the big, brave conservative men!!!!!

Do you enjoy displaying your ignorance? I've always been a registered Independent and vote as such.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-21   15:43:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#72. To: Ibluafartsky (#70)

I've always been a registered Independent and vote as such.

So is yukon!

What a coincidence!

We The People  posted on  2009-12-21 16:35:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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