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Title: Amnesty to cost illegal immigrants $500
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examiner.com
URL Source: http://www.examiner.com/x-10317-San ... to-cost-illegal-immigrants-500
Published: Dec 19, 2009
Author: examiner.com
Post Date: 2009-12-19 21:34:37 by WhiteSands
Keywords: DNC, ACORN, Amnesty
Views: 37628
Comments: 82
Democrat lawmaker Luis Gutierrez (D-ILL) and the Hispanic caucus have decided the cost for those who entered the country illegally and have broken untold laws since their arrival will pay $500 to get their citizenship. This is quite the deal as it costs many illegal immigrants $4,000 to $5,000 in coyote (human smugglers) fees to make the often treacherous walk through the country's southern borders. The immigration bill aptly named, “Comprehensive Immigration Reform for America’s Security and Prosperity Act (H.R. 4321)” Gutierrez’s claimed he was responsible for the acronym “CIR ASAP” and hoped it would spur other lawmakers to quickly pass immigration reform legislation. This week the Illinois Congressman announced his wish list for the illegal immigrant population, which calls for amnesty and relaxing verification tools. “This is what we want; our proposal is out of the box,” he said. However the authors of the bill will face an uphill battle in the Senate, many of whom have already said the bill is dead on arrival. Making this even more difficult is the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, who threatened all lawmakers, the House will not take the lead in any new legislation next year. Pelosi explained in a news conference that Congress has taken the leading role all year and many Congressmen could lose their seats because they were forced to support her on a number of unpopular issues. Although the Democrats have the numbers to easily pass immigration reform, a down economy and double-digit unemployment threatens passage of a bill, especially one as liberal as this. Congressman Brian Bilbray (R-CA), who is on the House Immigration Reform Caucus, said the reform legislation would generate a new wave of migrants to compete with Americans currently seeking employment. The "CIR ASAP" bill lays out the need for illegal immigrants to prove they are working, pay a $500 fine, learn English and pass a criminal background check. However, the bill didn’t include the “touchback” provision which would force all seeking amnesty to return to their home country and enter into the country legally. “Not to be picky on the back ground checks, but if someone crosses into this country illegally and is working illegally (often with forged paperwork) wouldn’t they be considered criminals?” Steve Jones a lifelong California resident would like the President to explain how this would work. “I know if I used forged paperwork I’d go to jail and have charges on my permanent record for life.” Details, details details. Another point of contention is the fact country's international borders remain as porous as ever causing a lot of concern from border state law enforcement officers. Sheriff Sigi Gonzalez of Texas states his county cannot take anymore immigrants. “There’s simply no money or services left, we’re broke.” Couple that with the fact that this bill calls for the dismantling of E-Verify. This effective system is able to obtain legal status of potential workers who are put through the computer with a 96 percent accuracy rate. Employers enjoy free access to E-Verify and are able to ensure their employees meet federal guidelines regarding legal status. Other highlights in the bill include AgJOBS amnesty (farm workers) as well as the DREAM Act with grants automatic amnesty to those who graduated U.S. high schools and wish to attend college. This should be of particular concern to parents who are already struggling to pay college increasing tuition fees, as this bill will add much more competition to the federal grants and scholarship programs. The bill reads like a child’s Christmas wish and judging by the up tick in tea party organizers, anti-amnesty activists and concerned American citizens the "CIR ASAP" legislation may get nothing more than coal in its stocking next year.
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#29. To: WhiteSands (#18)
You know about as much about conservatives as you do rocket science.
Have you ever tried to explain this to Bill Clinton?
Are you freaking kidding me?!?!?
Have you ever heard of anyone purchasing amnesty? Geezus, use a fookin dictionary! So your answer is no. This is not amnesty to you. Establishment/GOP/RINO/Neoconservative response duly noted.
You need to know the definition of amnesty versus absolution. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/AMNESTY amnesty One entry found. : the act of an authority (as a government) by which pardon is granted to a large group of individuals
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
Just how fookin dense are you, tardo? http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/AMNESTY amnesty One entry found. : the act of an authority (as a government) by which pardon is granted to a large group of individuals
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
Do you support this path to citizenship?
Democrat lawmaker Luis Gutierrez (D-ILL) and the Hispanic caucus have decided the cost for those who entered the country illegally and have broken untold laws since their arrival will pay $500 to get their citizenship. NO! Are you fookin delusional and stupid?
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
So absolution is not amnesty. And you're not for absolution or amnesty, but you ARE for a path to citizenship?
And you're not for absolution or amnesty, but you ARE for a path to citizenship? You're a real fookin dope. Look it up!!!!!!! As far as I know there IS a path to citizenship, is there not? http://www.path 2usa.com/immigration/citizenship/index.htm Are you an ignorant, uneducated illegal or just a tardo?
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
Money before the rule of law, that is basically what the bill is saying. not only in the fact it protects corporations that hire illegals undercutting american wages and labor; but in the fact an illegal can buy citizenship and be forgiven of breaking the law. We are no longer a nation of laws, but a nation of money. Interests are dictated by the monied powers.
Stand Up, Men of the West!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgSdiX0kDI
Just answer the question and stop being a coward yukon. Even Palin has the balls to admit she supports a path to citizenship. Does Palin have more balls than you?
http://www.path 2usa.com/immigration/citizenship/index.htm That is a legal path to citizenship for foreign citizens. We're talking about those already here illegally. Do you support a path to citizenship for illegal aliens? Palin does. Do you?
Do you support a path to citizenship for illegal aliens? NFS! Why weren't you able to find it? You must post at FR, dummies, Kos or DU. Yes, provided they must return to their country of origin with all of their relatives, no matter how far removed, for 70 years. Then they may apply for citizenship on a first come first served for those who can speak, write and comprehend English at college level.
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
She's got more spine and brainpower than you, that is evident to all.
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
Evidently not enough of a spine to remain governor and take criticism. Evidently not smart enough to stay at one college; but instead 4 in 5 years.
Stand Up, Men of the West!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgSdiX0kDI
Are you trying to claim the Catholic Church didn't sell "heavenly pardons" to a large number of sinners?
zactly! I was just hoping others would see it.
______________________________________________________________ tag ... you're it.
You can call it whatever you want, but amnesty is granted. It has no dollar amount attached.
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
You've got to understand sneakypete, Ibluafartsky believes that if everything amnesty entails is sold to illegal aliens for $500 they earned while working here illegally, it's not amnesty. He also believes Obama, evidently, that if health care is provided to those who used to be illegal aliens after amnesty is granted, that health care would not go to illegal aliens.
______________________________________________________________ tag ... you're it.
Evidently not smart enough to stay at one college; but instead 4 in 5 years. Thanks for proving what a fookin dunce you are..... yet again. Take criticism? Palin had to fund her own defense against numerous frivolous ethics complaints. Where was she supposed to get the money? From the RNC? Which institution did she flunk out of, dunce? Surely you must know? You've got to be a dummie reject!
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
That's actually partially true...since few Catholics are ever expected to leap over Purgatory straight into Heaven. Entry into Heaven is reserved for the Elite, the Rich, saints, or those who "suffered for Christ." For those not willing to "suffer," (or be "obedient") there were Indulgences - contributions to Pope$, Bishop$, Priests, parishe$ whose prayer$ could (in theory) reduce time spent at Purgatory. Just how much time is reduced in Purgatory not even the RCC knows. As IF God's Grace could be bought. This is why and how the RCC has amassed unimaginable wealth and real estate holdings over the centuries. I can only imagine how much a "good word" from a Pope-to-God is going for these days. In fact the sales of partial "Amnesty" is still practiced...but less blatantly so.
And what moron prey tell set up the system where said complaints could be taken up against her? Why her dumbness Palin did. What a moron she is.
He believes whatever it is he has to believe to keep Saint Sarah in the running. Flat out,he is going to make whatever excuse he has to make for her. He also believes Obama, evidently, that if health care is provided to those who used to be illegal aliens after amnesty is granted, that health care would not go to illegal aliens. No,that's different. It's not Palin,it's Obmaa. Different standards apply.
You just know that God loves a giver!
And a good cigar.
______________________________________________________________ tag ... you're it.
Please enlighten us with links disclosing who set up the system.
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
And judging from some of the people we all run across in our daily lives,he loves a good joke,too.
Palin set up the current system by which the Dems took her down. Part of her "ethical reform" package.
It don't get better than snowing at the global warming confab.
______________________________________________________________ tag ... you're it.
Sorry if you can't handle facts and accuracy. Whether it be Palin, Obama, Paul or Goode, I'll call bullshit when I see it. Amnesty is granted, it isn't purchased with cash. You can't educate those who aren't interested.
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
Where are the links, fookin moron?
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
Here are the facts and accuracy YOU can't handle: If it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, IT'S A FUCKING DUCK, no matter how you try to spin it.
______________________________________________________________ tag ... you're it.
If it posts like a fookin moron, has the comprehension level of a fookin moron, it is Wood_Chopper, the fookin moron. Spin that! What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
Again, thanks for the opportunity to show others exactly what you are.
______________________________________________________________ tag ... you're it.
I'll take each and every opportunity to expose the fookin propagandists and shills like you.
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
Here's how I see your position: If a politician can grant all aspects of amnesty to an illegal alien while putting $500 in his pocket for doing so, he can point to the dictionary, and with a straight face tell the public he didn't grant amnesty, because amnesty can't be paid for. How stupid do you think the American public is? Wait, don't answer that. You've posted enough to let us know how stupid you think we are.
______________________________________________________________ tag ... you're it.
If a politician can grant all aspects of amnesty to an illegal alien while putting $500 in his pocket How stupid do you think the American public is? That's exactly the reason you are a fookin moron. Amnesty is granted, not bought, fool. Try the definition of bribery. You and so many others not knowing or caring to learn the definition of AMNESTY.....Obama elected POTUS.....really fookin stupid!
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
Amnesty is granted, it isn't purchased with cash. What next? Are you going to claim that it all depends on what the definition of "is",is? You can't educate those who aren't interested. So true.
Not to mention,like you. What are you going to do if Palin turns into Ross Perot,and takes a dive too late in the fight to be replaced? I'm betting you will vote for whatever "lesser of two evils RINO" the RINO National Committee pushes forward.
Wrong! The politician has to the "R Union Label" behind their name for it to be acceptable,and even then it would be helpful if that name were Palin. It would just be wrong if a Dim did it.
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#30. To: Ibluafartsky (#19)
Amnesty is granted, not purchased. Get an education!
#31. To: WhiteSands, Wood_Chopper (#8)
Off topic post noted
#32. To: Ibluafartsky, Wood_Chopper (#14)
would it be amnesty?
#33. To: sneakypete (#28)
The Catholic Church used to sell amnesty to sinners so they wouldn't go to hell,
#34. To: We The People (#32)
This is not amnesty to you.
#35. To: Ibluafartsky (#34)
#36. To: We The People (#35)
Do you support this path to citizenship?
#37. To: Ibluafartsky (#36)
#38. To: We The People (#37)
So absolution is not amnesty.
#39. To: WhiteSands (#0)
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#40. To: Ibluafartsky (#38)
#41. To: Ibluafartsky (#38)
As far as I know there IS a path to citizenship, is there not?
#42. To: We The People (#41)
That is a legal path to citizenship for foreign citizens.
#43. To: We The People (#40)
Does Palin have more balls than you?
#44. To: Ibluafartsky (#43)
#45. To: Ibluafartsky (#33)
You need to know the definition of amnesty versus absolution.
#46. To: We The People (#32)
(Edited)
#47. To: sneakypete (#45)
Are you trying to claim the Catholic Church didn't sell "heavenly pardons" to a large number of sinners?
#48. To: sneakypete, Ibluafartsky (#47)
(Edited)
#49. To: Thor (#44)
Evidently not enough of a spine to remain governor and take criticism.
#50. To: sneakypete (#28)
The Catholic Church used to sell amnesty to sinners so they wouldn't go to hell...
#51. To: Ibluafartsky, thor (#49)
Thanks for proving what a fookin dunce you are..... yet again. Take criticism? Palin had to fund her own defense against numerous frivolous ethics complaints. Where was she supposed to get the money? From the RNC?
#52. To: Wood_Chopper, Ibluafartsky (#48)
You've got to understand sneakypete, Ibluafartsky believes that if everything amnesty entails is sold to illegal aliens for $500 they earned while working here illegally, it's not amnesty.
#53. To: Liberator (#50)
Just how much time is reduced in Purgatory not even the RCC knows. As IF God's Grace could be bought.
#54. To: sneakypete (#53)
You just know that God loves a giver!
#55. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#51)
And what moron prey tell set up the system where said complaints could be taken up against her?
#56. To: Wood_Chopper (#54)
And a good cigar.
#57. To: Ibluafartsky (#55)
And what moron prey tell set up the system where said complaints could be taken up against her? Please enlighten us with links disclosing who set up the system.
#58. To: sneakypete (#56)
And judging from some of the people we all run across in our daily lives,he loves a good joke,too.
#59. To: sneakypete, Wood_Chopper (#52)
He believes whatever
#60. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#57)
Palin set up the current system by which the Dems took her down.
#61. To: Ibluafartsky, sneakypete (#59)
Sorry if you can't handle facts and accuracy.
#62. To: Wood_Chopper (#61)
Here are the facts and accuracy
#63. To: Ibluafartsky (#62)
#64. To: Wood_Chopper (#63)
thanks for the opportunity to show others exactly what you are.
#65. To: Ibluafartsky (#62)
#66. To: Wood_Chopper (#65)
Here's how I see your position:
#67. To: Ibluafartsky (#59)
#68. To: Ibluafartsky (#64)
I'll take each and every opportunity to expose the fookin propagandists and shills like you.
#69. To: Wood_Chopper, Ibluafartsky (#65)
If a politician can grant all aspects of amnesty to an illegal alien while putting $500 in his pocket for doing so, he can point to the dictionary, and with a straight face tell the public he didn't grant amnesty, because amnesty can't be paid for.
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