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Title: Not Good: U.K. Traces Nerve Agent in Poisoning to Ex-Russian Spy’s Home
Source: The Wall Street Journal
URL Source: https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-k-to ... ussian-millionaires-1522258755
Published: Mar 28, 2018
Author: staff
Post Date: 2018-03-28 22:00:21 by buckeroo
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Views: 1025
Comments: 17

Government says it would review hundreds of visas granted to wealthy Russians in response to attack it blames on Kremlin By Jenny Gross Updated March 28, 2018 7:49 p.m. ET

LONDON—After combing through hours of security-camera footage and speaking to hundreds of witnesses, British investigators said Wednesday they believe that the nerve agent used to poison a former Russian spy and his daughter had been applied to the front door of their house.


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#1. To: buckeroo (#0)

This is new. I thought they traced it to the ventilation system in their car.

If it was applied to their front door, it sounds like it could have been anyone. But of course Britain is dead set to find a Russian to blame it on.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-03-28   23:34:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Pinguinite (#1)

why are you trying to avoid blaming a Russian? Do people in the UK have access to weapons grade nerve agents? The nerve agent has been identified as something developed by the Russians, sort of a smoking gun

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#3. To: paraclete (#2)

why are you trying to avoid blaming a Russian?

In a word: Motive. What's the motive? Who gains from this attack? Russia does not gain. But there are plenty of other western countries that do gain from framing them to garner this exact response.

And if Russia wanted this spy dead, why would they use a sloppy nerve agent when there are no shortage of poisons they could have administered to kill him without inflicting collateral injury as the nerve attack did, if not completely discretely to make it look like a heart attack.

It's clear to me that whomever did this wanted it to make international headlines, and wanted Russia to be blamed. It just makes no sense otherwise.

Regardless of what people may think of Putin in good/evil terms, he is, without argument, a very intelligent & calculating guy. He would not have ordered this unless he had something to gain.

Do people in the UK have access to weapons grade nerve agents?

The Russian news "Russia Today" claims the Brits do have a chem weapons lab not far from the crime scene. The Brits are not claiming the gas is from the same "class" of agents as Novichok.

The nerve agent has been identified as something developed by the Russians, sort of a smoking gun

As the Brits claim, all the while refusing to give the Russians samples. This is in fact required under international law in these cases. If the Russians are guilty, fine, but why deny them a fair trial? Are the Brits hiding something?

The entire west views Russia through the 20th century glasses of communism and a repressed society under an authoritarian government. Those days are gone. Now, Russia is a democracy with it's back to the wall with former Warsaw Pact countries now part of NATO and the US having sponsored a coup in Russia's former ally of Ukraine. The west now has control of countries very close and even on Russia's borders, and yet so many Americans still view Russia as the tyrannical imperialistic bear.

No, Putin would have to be stupid to order this nerve gas attack. And Putin is simply not stupid. Not even close. There are plenty of other countries, however, that stand to gain from staging this, so yes, I'm avoiding the "blame Russia" lynch mob, which is what it is right now.

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