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Title: Palin finally speaks on immigration, supports path to citizenship
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URL Source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/webl ... immigration-supports-path-cit/
Published: Oct 26, 2008
Author: Stephen Dinan
Post Date: 2009-12-19 20:55:31 by Moderate Mammal
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Views: 38688
Comments: 82
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin says she supports John McCain's position on immigration, including a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants. It's the first time she's addressed the issue in depth, and her views are likely to shape her chances of leading the Republican Party should McCain fail to win the White House nect month. She said she agrees with McCain, who fought most of his party in trying to legalize most illegal immigrants. "John McCain has been so clear with his policy and it makes a lot of sense too. We secure our borders first. But then with a comprehensive approach we must deal humanely with those who are here, and we must allow the steps to be taken to protect the families of those who are here, maybe as illegal immigrants today," she told Univision's "Al Punto" Sunday political talk show in an interview aired this weekend. She said she doesn't support "amnesty" because those here illegally should be shuttled to the back of the line for services. "Not total amnesty. You know, people have got to follow the rules. They've got to follow the law, and we have got to make sure that there is equal opportunity and those who are here legally should be first in line for services being provided and those opportunities that this great country provides." She also said she opposes driver's licenses for illegal immigrants and said she would not halt immigration raids. She said decisions on raids should be made "on a case-by-case basis to consider all the ramifications of each individual action." — Stephen Dinan, national political correspondent, The Washington Times
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#1. To: Moderate Mammal (#0)
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Ron Paul has voted to remove any path and grant immediate Amnesty. Can ANYONE name Sarah's stated patch? Care to see Ron Pauls Votes?
----------------------------------------------------------- Muslim Moron, you are such a fookin Obama asskisser!
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
He is open borders.
----------------------------------------------------------- She probably thought when her daughter was late that it wasn't a "total pregnancy".
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She, similar to the rest of the GOP neocons pontificate out of their asses when discussing immigration or any other issue that is pro-American.
Ron Paul (GOP) voted for no path, just immediate amnesty.
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LIE..she supports that they GET IN LINE for citizenship, like everyone else. Ahem...Ron Paul's record on Immigration: http://w ww.newswithviews.com/public_comm/public_commentary48.htm SNIP~ I'd collected Ron Paul's voting record on the very strategies urged that night to reverse the influence of "one-world government:" hiring Americans, no amnesty for illegal aliens and border security based on Paul's Immigration Voting Record & Report Card on the NumbersUSA website: (1) Paul consistently voted every year since 1999 against putting the military on the border: 2006: H. Amdt. 206 to H.R. 1815 2004: Goode Amendment to H.R. 4200 2003: Goode Amendment to H.R. 1588 2002: H. Amdt. 479 to H.R. 4546 2001: Traficant amendment to HR 2586 2000: Traficant amendment to H.R.4205 1999: Trafficant Amendment to H.R. 1401. (2) Paul voted in 1997, 2001( H.R. 1885) and 2002 (H RES 365) to grant, extend or continue Section 245-i amnesties for illegal aliens. (3) Paul voted NO on extending the voluntary Basic Pilot Workplace Verification Program (H.R. 2359), (4) Paul voted NO on the border fence in 2005 (Hunter Amendment to HR 4437 - "Enforcement Only" Bill). (5) Paul voted YES to increase H2-B (HR 763 in 2005) and H-1B visas (HR 3736 in 1998). In 1998, he voted to allow US firms to lay off Americans to replace them with foreigners. What a surprise to hear Mrs. Freeman focus her reply not on the five items I'd presented, but instead on Congressman Paul's introduction of a bill banning "birthright citizenship" (actually one of several in the Congressional hopper). Was this another example of the politicians' shell game? I reminded her that my questions weren't about birthright citizenship, but instead about using the military on the border, opposing the border fence amendment to HR 4437, his support for several Section 245i amnesties for illegal aliens and increased guest-worker visas for jobs Americans want. She apparently realized that I wouldn't be blown off so easily and spoke to the questions presented. She said a border fence wasn't needed; sensors at the border would be enough. On the matter of the military on the border, she said it wasn't necessary--the Border Patrol should be fully empowered to do the job. She claimed that the job was done more effectively without the military when states patrolled their own borders, adding an anecdote about Texas Rangers' success in stopping diseased cattle from crossing the border. READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE
The thread's about Palin, not Ron Paul.
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The same neocon anti Ron Paul against the fence bullshit. I'm against a fence too and *I* have done numerous protests against the illegals. You need a new act. Ron Paul: "No Amnesty, No Welfare for Illegal Aliens" www.allamericanpatriots.c...no_welfare_illegal_aliens June 18, 2007 -- ARLINGTON, VA – The Ron Paul campaign issued the following statement: "As a congressman, Ron Paul has been a leader in the fight to end illegal immigration. He voted for a border fence, opposes the current Senate "compromise" bill, and introduced legislation to end birth right citizenship. Dr. Paul has consistently warned Americans about the looming menace of the North American Union and is the only presidential candidate calling for an end to welfare benefits, mandatory medical care and free education for illegal aliens. Article continues below... view counter "No leader in Washington has fought to end illegal immigration harder than Congressman Ron Paul," said Ron Paul 2008 campaign chairman Kent Snyder. "Dr. Paul knows that America must never grant amnesty to those who are in our country illegally." The following are statements Dr. Paul has made in the U.S. House of Representatives: -- "The much-vaunted Senate "compromise" on immigration is a compromise alright: a compromise of our laws, a compromise of our sovereignty, and a compromise of the Second Amendment. That anyone in Washington believes this is a credible approach to solving our immigration crisis suggests just how out of touch our political elites really are." -- "If we reward millions who came here illegally, surely millions more will follow suit. Ten years from now we will be in the same position, with a whole new generation of lawbreakers seeking amnesty." -- "...real national security cannot be achieved unless and until our borders are physically secured. It's as simple as that. All the talk about fighting terror and making America safer is meaningless without border security. It makes no sense to seek terrorists abroad if our own front door is left unlocked."
Obviously the DNA for your brainpower was left on the toilet seat, fookin dunce.
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
Who made you thread nanny, wimp?
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
Really? I'll talk to my Minutemen friends about it. As for you, I've been completely mystified. Why MM? Is it just PDS or are you blind to Paul's obvious 2007-I'm running for President in 2008 BS change of heart? You obviously believe him, I don't. I've supported you in all of your one man protests over the years and it's "I" who needs a new act? Your new act of PDS is simply stunning.
Was that supposed to make me angry? Perhaps you could tell everyone here what part of amnesty Palin is going to include when she says "Not Total Amnesty" If it's not "total" there must be some part of amnesty involved she would grant. Enlighten us. What part?
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HEAR HEAR!!! LOL
The ones who have no cogent argument here and deflect to Ron Paul and resort to personal attacks. Why do you ask?
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LOL! Minutemen friends?
So you're self-appointed. You sure are a fookin dope!
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
Was that supposed to make me angry? Perhaps you could tell everyone here what part of amnesty Palin is going to include when she says "Not Total Amnesty" If it's not "total" there must be some part of amnesty involved she would grant. Enlighten us. What part?
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Al Franken, This threads about amnesty and illegals and who we support.
----------------------------------------------------------- That is probably because you don't live in a border state! You would be the first to want it if you did.
Yes. You want to laugh at us too? You now hate the Minutemen?
I am pro fence , National Guard and predator strikes on the Vatican each time a drunk illegal kills one of us.
----------------------------------------------------------- While I have no doubt you think it's about who you (plural) support, and have proven it with deflections and personal attacks, the thread is about Palin's views on immigration. See, that's why it's entitled "Palin finally speaks on immigration, supports path to citizenship". The rest of us are looking for someone to support, and are interested in Palin's views on immigration without the broken-glass Palin supporters' deflections to Ron Paul and the personal attacks. Anyone with a brain will see those who have done those deflections and attacks for what they are, remember who they are, and disregard their comments from now on. I'm just happy I could have one small part in exposing them.
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I have spoken to many a Minutemen. They would not give a pro-amnesty "path to citizenship" fraud like you the time of day. You're just another greedy "borntoweardiamonds" neocon artist. You may fool some but certainly not me. And many others are waking up.
You expose only that you are a DNC. You support no GOPers and could care less about Immigration Amnesty.
----------------------------------------------------------- DNC poster, where a link to back this up.
----------------------------------------------------------- You support no GOPers and could care less about Immigration Amnesty. Did I mention personal attacks? Since Palin doesn't want "Total Amnesty", which parts of amnesty does she support? Enlighten us.
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Exactly its un stated! Do you care about amnesty? If so , why are you always absent from the threads discussing what those in power are doing to promote it? You focus on a private citizens statement and pass on legislation pending. You are a fraud on this issue.
----------------------------------------------------------- So you don't know how much of amnesty she wants? If there were ten points to amnesty, and she wanted only 9, that would qualify as "Not Total Amnesty". What I'm trying to find out is what parts of amnesty, while not total amnesty, does she support? Do you know?
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Yes. That's why I'm here trying to find out what parts of amnesty Palin supports, but all I get is personal attacks. Enlighten me. While not "Total Amnesty", what parts of amnesty does she support?
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She is a private citizen. She hasn't even announced that she will run. She has yet to make a single campaign speech. She has yet to take part in a single debate. Yet you know what she means, maybe. All the while you've expressed no issues what so ever with pending amnesty legislation. You are a fraud on this issue of amnesty for illegals.
----------------------------------------------------------- LOL! Minutemen friends? All my minutemen friends are FOR the fence. They know how effective the double fence in San Diego has been. Legislation alone will not stop the flow of illegals coming across the border. The drug cartels are against the fence. Illegals and their smugglers are against the fence. I know why they are against the fence, but I don't understand why Moderate Mammal is against the fence.
Is Ron Paul and Sarah Palin the same person?
You seem to be in retreat mode.
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Which is amnesty because criminals can't become US citizens or be approved for a Green Card,and illegal aliens are criminals by definition. Which is why they all want the laws changed. Ahem...Ron Paul's record on Immigration: What does that have to do with what Palin thinks? Are they the same person?
If you don't know what parts of amnesty she does or doesn't support, just say so.
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Don't you know that "Ron Paul is...." is their argument to everything? You could say "Muslims are killing American soldiers in the Middle East,and they will say "It's Ron Pauls fault!"
Ok,so what does the Vatican have to do with illegal aliens? Do you think they are all following Vatican orders to come here? Maybe you think the cart is pushing the horse,too?
A fence is a farce without enforcing the law. If you give a "path to citizenship", welfare, amnesty, free health care, no enforcement of employers who hire illegal aliens and birthright citizenship.... The US did not need a fence in the past. That's because the law was enforced before the neocons took control. Bush destroyed the Border Patrols enforcement and called the Minutemen "vigilantes". The illegals knew they could come here unabated. Every time anyone on the border reported them, nothing was done. A physical fence is a red herring.
The parts that she thinks might win her RINO support,money,and votes?
White, you have Ron Paul on the brain. It's irrational.
You fookin dunce, what are the "parts" of amnesty? Gawd, I am laughing at you morons so much my sides are aching!!!!!!! http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/AMNESTY amnesty One entry found. : the act of an authority (as a government) by which pardon is granted to a large group of individuals
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
Please list the "parts" of amnesty for all of us, professor dumbkoff.... http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/AMNESTY amnesty One entry found. : the act of an authority (as a government) by which pardon is granted to a large group of individuals
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
letters, you have an non office holding powerless women on your brain , it's irrational. Paul is in office and has authored and voted on numerous pro Mexico, pro amnesty bills. IF the concern were illegals it would be rational to focus on those in power.
----------------------------------------------------------- Every time I see a thread about Palin, I see you start talking about Paul. Are you suffering from some sort of fixation?
Ron Paul does not fit the neocon parasite agenda of cheap labor hard workers and putting Iraq, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan and Mexico before America.
So what measures has Paul taken to stop the invasion that started decades ago? How long has he held national office? How long has Palin held national office?
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
Every time I see a thread about Palin, I see you start talking about Paul. Are you suffering from some sort of fixation?
Like when? You think the problem started with Bush? Nonsense. Have you studied the effects of the fence, where it exists? You call it a red herring, I call it effective. The fence is not the only border enforcement measure that is needed but it is certainly and integral part of it. I can guarantee you that the smugglers are not interested in any of the above. Current fencing has already had an effect on their operations and they are fighting over territory to cross the border. The more fence that goes up, the more violene they create in Mexico. That is a proven fact, one that the MSM and others (obvioulsy yourself included) wish to ignore. The fence needs to be completed as mandated by Congress.
How's it going yukon?
Or should I call you Illegal Alien?
You sure are a fookin dope!
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
Geez, what do you know, Iblewaguy is fighting with more posters on LF. Come on Troll, you should really head off to Free Republic or something.
You're delusional!!! What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
The problem went from a trickle to a tidal wave under Bush. Back in the 70's I don't recall illegal immigration being a problem. Lawns were cut, veggies available....without a fence. And without the illegals. Perhaps you need to talk with your Minutemen Friends who btw did not start an organization until Bush came along. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minuteman_Project The Minuteman Project is an activist organization started in April 2005[1] by a group of private individuals in the United States to monitor the United States–Mexico border's flow of illegal immigrants. Co-founded by Jim Gilchrist, the name derives from the Minutemen, militiamen who fought in the American Revolution. The Minuteman Project describes itself as "a citizens' Neighborhood Watch on our border", and has attracted media attention to illegal immigration.
Reagan created the belief that Amnesty is possible.
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Have you stopped making kiddie porn movies?
The border states did not need a fence in the past. You're not bright enough to figure out how that could have been possible. I recall back in the 70's when there were very few illegals, there were no homes as we all lived in mud huts, lettuce was $50 a head and no one had a front or back lawn until the illegals arrived with a new invention called a "lawnmower". Thank God for Bush as he bought America into the 20th century.
Few compared to what, Muslim Moron?
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
I know Jim Gilchrist - personally. Talk to him a lot. I work for Glenn Spencer - the Godfather of the entire anti-illegal immigration movement. BTW - Jim wants the fence. I know plenty of the history and I have friends who have been murdered by the smugglers just because they wouldn't let them cross through their property. Before Bush - there was a problem and I have documentation to proove it.
Moderate Mammel is new to the movement. He knows not of what he speaks. He needs to do more research on the subject.
So you are the movement? Shit, now I know why America is in such shit shape. Groups that are supposed to stand against third world immigration are run by a bunch of Republicans that support Palin.
Stand Up, Men of the West!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgSdiX0kDI
Screw you - You're an illegal alien sympathizer POS.
Shut up Mel. Guys like you kissing Palin's ass seven ways to Sunday are the problem. Guys like Thor are patriots. Guys like you are content to let a skirt speak for you.
The so called anti immigration movement is full of a bunch of lightweights and moderates that are afraid to address the real issues. The fact is, they don't mind multiculturalism, and wouldn't mind if all those illegals came in if they signed some paperwork. All they care about is following the process and playing by the rules. Basically the movement comes down to a piece of paper. And the fact of the matter is, when you are just fighting for a piece of paper and electing Republicans the masses won't follow you. You might get a couple of 60 year old farts to counter protest the Mexica Movement or Atzlan but they will win in the end. The enemy will win because those opposing them pride themselves on being civil and wanting to preserve the system. But the fact is, the very system they wish to preserve supports continued illegal immigration. You need to get loud and radical. You need to be proud of your people and culture, just like atzlan are, and take the fight to the streets. You need to take Alinsky's rules for radicalism and apply them and win at the grassroots level like the far left did. All these so called conservative "legal immigrant advocates" do is surrender the very platform they proclaim to support by election time and support a Pro Amnesty Republican because they are the lesser of two evils. They stifle the movement and then direct it to help the system.
Stand Up, Men of the West!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgSdiX0kDI
They are nothing less than surrender monkies.
Gee - Shithead - Don't know why you brought up Palin before me --- Jerk. Thor - Bwahahaha - He is such a man he has YOU post for him and defend him....ROTFLAMO!!! Pssst --- I'm not a guy....Dummy...
Because you reak of Palin. Guys like Thor are patriots. Guys like you are content to let a skirt speak for you. Thor - Bwahahaha - He is such a man he has YOU post for him and defend him....ROTFLAMO!!! Pssst --- I'm not a guy....Dummy... Thor...MM....myself..we stick together because we're patriots and put America first. You and your pack of internationalist stooges can pound sand. Perhaps you are a transexual? Who "woman" picks a man's name?
Why don't you and Thor get a room, perv? What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
Fags of a feather! What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
Hey - sweetie - Mel is short for Melissa. Don't like it? Don't care.
lol
Wow, your level of maturity is infinitesimaly small.
It is pathetic.The fate of our people and nation are in the hands of immature neo conservative republican women. No wonder Atzlan and Mexica are winning. They literally and metaphorically have balls.
Stand Up, Men of the West!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgSdiX0kDI
I work for Glenn Spencer - the Godfather of the entire anti-illegal immigration movement. BTW - Jim wants the fence. I know plenty of the history and I have friends who have been murdered by the smugglers just because they wouldn't let them cross through their property. Before Bush - there was a problem and I have documentation to proove it. Jim Gilchrist sold out. Americans get murdered by the smugglers because LEA will do nothing about the problem. How many stories were there of the government taking sides with the illegals over Americans during trespassing and home invasions? We all recall the incident with Ramos and Compean. And the other incidents of corrupt agents. Have lost most of my business and having done more than 80 protests along with many other Americans after 9/11 under Bush was directly because of illegal immigration and traitors doing business with those that use illegal labor and outsourcing. There was no fence during the '90s. The fence is a Red Herring. You're not going to get the same traitors to build a fence who refuse to do anything else to to stop them.
What country are you posting about? Name all the republican women in whose hands your fate is being held, phony!
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
Yep - Jim sold out, that's what I hear. Simcox sold out too. Of course, Simcox sold out long ago. My point is this - Illegal immigration has always been a problem - It did not start when Bush got in office. The fence is not a red herring - it is an important part of border security. There are many important parts and not one part will be effective without the rest working along with it. There was no fence during the 90's .... Illegal immigration was a problem in the 90's as well. In 1997, there was a "Good fences make good neighbors" rally - at the border. San Diego got their double layer fence and it significantly cut down the illegal alien traffic in that sector. The fence works. We need more of it. We had problems on the property here - with illegals - The fence alongside the property put an end to it. This portion of the fence has not been breached - It's only single layer - but it keeps them from coming through. Now, they simply go around it.
Copy and paste her vote on the issue of immigration and or illegal’s. Ron Pauls votes: Paul consistently voted every year since 1999 against putting the military on the border: 2006: H. Amdt. 206 to H.R. 1815 Dr Ron Paul has voted three times for amnesty he is against any requirements /path for illegals to stay in the U.S. Ron Paul voted NO on extending the voluntary Basic Pilot Workplace Verification Program Ron Paul voted NO on the border fence in 2005 Ron Paul voted YES to allow US firms to lay off Americans to replace them with foreigners. During the 2008 Presidential run Ron Paul stated his being against the Fence Ron Paul views a Special relationship between the U.S. and Mexico - sharing defense and prosperity. -----------------------------------------------------------
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#2. To: Moderate Mammal (#0)
Published: Oct 26, 2008
#3. To: Ibluafartsky, Moderate Mammal (#2)
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#4. To: Moderate Mammal (#0)
"Not total amnesty."
#5. To: Wood_Chopper (#4)
She probably thought when her daughter was late that it wasn't a "total pregnancy".
#6. To: Moderate Mammal (#5)
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She, similar to the rest of the GOP
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#7. To: WhiteSands (#6)
Ron Paul (GOP) voted for no path, just immediate amnesty.
#8. To: Moderate Mammal (#0)
#9. To: borntoweardiamonds (#8)
#10. To: borntoweardiamonds (#8)
#11. To: Wood_Chopper (#4)
She probably thought when her daughter was late that it wasn't a "total pregnancy".
#12. To: Wood_Chopper (#9)
The thread's about Palin, not Ron Paul.
#13. To: Moderate Mammal (#10)
You need a new act.
#14. To: Ibluafartsky (#11)
Obviously the DNA for your brainpower was left on the toilet seat, fookin dunce.
#15. To: Ibluafartsky, Wood_Chopper (#12)
Who made you thread nanny, wimp?
#16. To: Ibluafartsky (#12)
Who made you thread nanny, wimp?
#17. To: borntoweardiamonds (#13)
Really? I'll talk to my Minutemen friends about it.
#18. To: Wood_Chopper (#16)
The ones who have no cogent argument
#19. To: Ibluafartsky (#18)
So you're self-appointed. You sure are a fookin dope!
#20. To: Wood_Chopper (#7)
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#21. To: Moderate Mammal (#10)
I'm against a fence too
#22. To: Moderate Mammal (#17)
#23. To: borntoweardiamonds (#21)
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#24. To: WhiteSands (#20)
Al Franken, This threads about amnesty and illegals and who we support.
#25. To: borntoweardiamonds (#22)
Really? I'll talk to my Minutemen friends about it.
#26. To: Wood_Chopper (#24)
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#27. To: Wood_Chopper, aka Al franken (#4)
She probably thought when her daughter was late that it wasn't a "total pregnancy".
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#28. To: WhiteSands (#26)
You expose only that you are a DNC.
#29. To: Wood_Chopper (#28)
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#30. To: WhiteSands (#29)
Exactly its un stated!
#31. To: WhiteSands (#29)
Do you care about amnesty?
#32. To: Wood_Chopper (#30)
What I'm trying to find out is what parts of amnesty, while not total amnesty, does she support?
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#33. To: Moderate Mammal, borntoweardiamonds (#17)
Really? I'll talk to my Minutemen friends about it.
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#34. To: WhiteSands (#1)
Ron Paul has voted to remove any path and grant immediate Amnesty.
#35. To: WhiteSands (#32)
#36. To: borntoweardiamonds (#8)
LIE..she supports that they GET IN LINE for citizenship, like everyone else.
#37. To: WhiteSands (#32)
#38. To: Wood_Chopper (#16)
The ones who have no cogent argument here and deflect to Ron Paul and resort to personal attacks.
#39. To: WhiteSands (#23)
I am pro fence , National Guard and predator strikes on the Vatican each time a drunk illegal kills one of us.
#40. To: mel (#33)
All my minutemen friends are FOR the fence. They know how effective the double fence in San Diego has been. Legislation alone will not stop the flow of illegals coming across the border. The drug cartels are against the fence. Illegals and their smugglers are against the fence. I know why they are against the fence, but I don't understand why Moderate Mammal is against the fence.
#41. To: Wood_Chopper (#31)
what parts of amnesty does she support?
#42. To: WhiteSands (#6)
#43. To: Wood_Chopper (#19)
Enlighten us.some part of amnesty
#44. To: Wood_Chopper, WhiteSands (#37)
parts of amnesty
#45. To: Abcdefg (#42)
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Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#46. To: WhiteSands (#45)
#47. To: Abcdefg (#46)
Every time I see a thread about Palin, I see you start talking about Paul. Are you suffering from some sort of fixation?
#48. To: Moderate Mammal, Abcdefg (#47)
Ron Paul does not fit the neocon parasite agenda of cheap labor hard workers
#49. To: Abcdefg (#46)
To: WhiteSands
#50. To: Moderate Mammal (#40)
The US did not need a fence in the past.
"path to citizenship", welfare, amnesty, free health care, no enforcement of employers who hire illegal aliens and birthright citizenship....
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#51. To: Ibluafartsky (#18)
So you're self-appointed. You sure are a fookin dope!
#52. To: Ibluafartsky (#51)
#53. To: We The People (#51)
#54. To: Ibluafartsky, We The People (#53)
You sure are a fookin dope!
#55. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#54)
fighting with more posters
#56. To: mel (#50)
Like when? You think the problem started with Bush? Nonsense. Have you studied the effects of the fence, where it exists? You call it a red herring, I call it effective. The fence is not the only border enforcement measure that is needed but it is certainly and integral part of it.
#57. To: Moderate Mammal (#56)
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
#58. To: WhiteSands (#57)
" I will tell you, I wish that there were more hours in the day so that we can get out there and to more of the communities with such the strong Latino vote that is out there and really tell them that we desire to work for them. We are asking them to hire us and let us work for them."
#59. To: borntoweardiamonds (#22)
Yes. You want to laugh at us too? You now hate the Minutemen?
#60. To: borntoweardiamonds (#21)
That is probably because you don't live in a border state! You would be the first to want it if you did.
#61. To: Moderate Mammal (#60)
I recall back in the 70's when there were very few illegals
#62. To: Moderate Mammal (#56)
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#63. To: Ibluafartsky (#61)
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#64. To: mel (#63)
#65. To: Thor (#64)
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#66. To: mel (#65)
Screw you - You're an illegal alien sympathizer POS.
#67. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#66)
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#68. To: Thor (#67)
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#69. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#66)
Shut up Mel. Guys like you kissing Palin's ass seven ways to Sunday are the problem.
Guys like Thor are patriots. Guys like you are content to let a skirt speak for you.
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#70. To: mel (#69)
Shut up Mel. Guys like you kissing Palin's ass seven ways to Sunday are the problem. Gee - Shithead - Don't know why you brought up Palin before me --- Jerk.
#71. To: Nebuchadnezzar, mel (#66)
Guys like Thor are patriots.
#72. To: Nebuchadnezzar, Thor, Moderate Mammal (#70)
Thor...MM....myself..we stick together
#73. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#70)
Who "woman" picks a man's name?
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#74. To: Ibluafartsky (#72)
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#75. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#70)
Thor...MM....myself..we stick together because we're patriots and we are the same person!
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#76. To: mel (#75)
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#77. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#76)
#78. To: mel (#62)
I know Jim Gilchrist - personally. Talk to him a lot.
#79. To: Thor (#77)
The fate of our people and nation are in the hands of immature neo conservative republican women.
#80. To: Moderate Mammal (#78)
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#81. To: Moderate Mammal (#78)
We Need a Whistleblower American Patrol Report -- November 2 
U.S. Border Patrol agents apprehend a group of illegal aliens just east of the San Pedro River on Highway 92.
This morning while on patrol of the border, Glenn Spencer spoke briefly with a U.S. Border Patrol agent. "Things pretty quiet?" Spencer asked the agent. "Yes, it's quiet here, but not at Naco," the agent replied.
The agent was confirming something that Spencer and others who live on the border in this area see every day. Where an effective fence was built, such as along the border near the American Border Patrol ranch, few if people cross illegally. To the east of the San Pedro River toward Naco, Arizona the fence changes to a shorter, less robust type that is easily crossed or cut. As a result residents see the Border Patrol chasing or rounding people almost every time they drive along Route 92 that parallels the border.
"The story is the same all along the border," Spencer said, "Where a properly designed fence was installed apprehensions of illegal aliens drops significantly." Spencer says that the government has the data to back him up but they won't release it. "I hope someday someone in the Department of Homeland Security will have the guts to blow the whistle on this mess," he said. 
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#82. To: Moderate Mammal (#0)
2004: Goode Amendment to H.R. 4200
2003: Goode Amendment to H.R. 1588
2002: H. Amdt. 479 to H.R. 4546
2001: Traficant amendment to HR 258
2000: Traficant amendment to H.R.4205
1999: Trafficant Amendment to H.R. 1401.
To grant, extend or continue Section 245-i amnesties for illegal aliens
Paul voted in 1997( H.R. 1885)
2001( H.R. 1885)
2002 (H RES 365)
(H.R. 2359),
(Hunter Amendment to HR 4437 - "Enforcement Only" Bill)
Yes to H-1B visas (HR 3736 in 1998).
Yes to increase H2-B (HR 763 in 2005)
"I don't think the fence can solve a problem. I find it rather offensive.” Dr Ron Paul
107th
H.CON.RES.206 : Recognizing the important relationship between the United States and Mexico.
Sponsor: Rep Paul, Ron [TX-14] (introduced 7/31/2001) Cosponsors (8) Committees: House International Relations
H. CON. RES. 206
Ron Paul caters to Hispanics
H.CON.RES.277 : Recognizing the important contributions of the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce.
Sponsor: Rep Paul, Ron [TX-14] (introduced 11/19/2001) Cosponsors (None) 107th CONGRESS
Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.
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