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Title: Trump tweet: military is going to build the wall!
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Published: Mar 25, 2018
Author: Donald J. Trump
Post Date: 2018-03-25 09:16:35 by A K A Stone
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Views: 5325
Comments: 84

Because of the $700 & $716 Billion Dollars gotten to rebuild our Military, many jobs are created and our Military is again rich. Building a great Border Wall, with drugs (poison) and enemy combatants pouring into our Country, is all about National Defense. Build WALL through M!

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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

There is no specific allocation of funds for building a wall. Trump is full of shit.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-25   9:32:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: buckeroo (#1)

There is no specific allocation of funds for building a wall. Trump is full of shit.

YOU are full of shit. That money is allocated to the military,and the President can just order the military to do the work without it adding a dime to the budget.

Most of the military has nothing to do with fighting and everything to do with rebuilding and stabilizing countries through medical clinics,airports,train stations,roads,water,sewer,etc,etc,etc. Which means there are a LOT of Army Combat Engineers and their USAF,USN,and USMC equivalents in reserve and national guard units that need construction projects to keep their training up to standards.

On the plus side,all of these units also not only have individual automatic rifles to discourage attacks,they also have crew-served weapons mounted in trucks. Any narco terrorist gang that thinks they can attack these work areas and disrupt blocking their infiltration routes is in a heap of trouble if they try.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-25   9:52:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: sneakypete (#2)

Hey, pal, that means he has declared a WAR on the US border between Mexico/USA. Go take a rest before having a heart attack.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-25   9:54:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: buckeroo (#1)

Ill give you a hint. Budget deficit control act of 1985. National Security and emergency powers.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-03-25   9:55:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: buckeroo (#3)

I'll give you another hint. We have to stop human trafficking and enemy combabants from crossing the border.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-03-25   9:57:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: buckeroo (#3) (Edited)

Hey, pal, that means he has declared a WAR on the US border between Mexico/USA. Go take a rest before having a heart attack.

No,it doesn't.

You are really turning into a drama queen.

Did Bathhouse Barry or Bubba declare war on Haiti before sending military engineers there to rebuild the infastructure?

Did Trump declare war on Puerto Rico in order to send military construction workers and US Navy ships there to provide electricity and drinking water?

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-25   9:58:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone (#4)

More BS.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-25   9:58:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: sneakypete (#6)

No,it doesn't.

Yeah, he needs a little ACT BY CONGRESS to declare a war, correct? He can not misuse or re-allocate funds based on prerogative. It would lead to impeachment.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-25   10:00:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: buckeroo (#7)

What authority does the President have under the 1985 act I mentioned. Do you know?

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-03-25   10:00:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A K A Stone, buckaroo (#5)

I'll give you another hint. We have to stop human trafficking and enemy combabants from crossing the border.

You can't give Bucky any tips. He has been hysterical ever since Trump was elected,and there is no reasoning with him.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-25   10:02:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: buckeroo (#8)

Section 2 – Authorization For Use of United States Armed Forces

(a) IN GENERAL- That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.

This authorization has NEVER been rescinded.

Business Insider has reported that the AUMF has been used to allow military action in Afghanistan, the Philippines, Georgia, Yemen, Djibouti, Kenya, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Iraq, and Somalia.

Source: Woody, Christopher. “Congress may repeal the post-9/11 act the US military used to justify the fight against ISIS”. Business Insider.

Building a wall or barrier is textbook combat engineer countermobility operation.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3642269/posts?q=1&;page=41

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-03-25   10:04:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: sneakypete, A K A Stone (#10)

He can't re-allocate Congressional funding for his own pet projects. He would get impeachment.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-25   10:05:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: buckeroo (#8)

Yeah, he needs a little ACT BY CONGRESS to declare a war, correct? He can not misuse or re-allocate funds based on prerogative. It would lead to impeachment.

HorseHillary stacked higher is still HorseHillary.

Where the HELL did you get that "congress has to declare war" bullBush,at a drag queen rally?

If you had ever been in the military you would know better. You would probably know better anyhow if you would quit shrieking in horror long enough to catch your breath.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-25   10:05:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: sneakypete (#10) (Edited)

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/economic-intelligence/articles/2017-07-19/congress- slyly-diverts-pentagon-money-to-fund-donald-trumps-border-wall

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-03-25   10:06:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: buckeroo (#8)

Yeah, he needs a little ACT BY CONGRESS to declare a war, correct?

Yes,he does.

WHEN did he declare war,and WHY? Where did you get that brain fart from,the National Enquirer?

He can not misuse or re-allocate funds based on prerogative. It would lead to impeachment.

You don't even have a fucking clue as to what you are talking about. ANY president can send active duty and reserve military units anywhere in the US they want to send them,at any time,and don't have to ask ANYBODY for permission.

National Guard troops are the only exception since they come under the command of the governors of the various states,but if there has ever been a time in the history of the US since 1865 that any governor refused to release his militia members (prior to the establishment of the NG) to a sitting president,I am not aware of it.

Since you know so much,why don't YOU tell us all of some examples that prove I am wrong,Princess?

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-25   10:11:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: buckeroo (#12)

He can't re-allocate Congressional funding for his own pet projects. He would get impeachment.

Oh really buckeroo

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/text-letter-president-speaker- house-representatives-president-senate-21/

Dear Mr. Speaker: (Dear Mr. President:)

In accordance with section 7058(d) of division K of the Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2018 (H.R. 1625; the “Act”), I hereby designate as an emergency requirement all funding so designated by the Congress in the Act pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985, for the accounts referenced in section 7058(d).

The details of this action are set forth in the enclosed memorandum from the Director of the Office of Management and Budget.

Sincerely,

DONALD J. TRUMP

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-03-25   10:12:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: sneakypete (#10)

I like being on your side instead of against you. :)

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-03-25   10:13:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: buckeroo (#12)

He can't re-allocate Congressional funding for his own pet projects. He would get impeachment.

He DOESN'T HAVE TO RE-ALLOCATE THE FUNDS BECAUSE THE FUNDING IS ALREADY ALLOCATED TO THE ACTIVE DUTY AND THE RESERVE MILITARY UNITS.

He also doesn't have to ask permission of ANYBODY to send reserve or active duty military units anywhere in the US,either.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-25   10:13:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: A K A Stone (#14)

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In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-25   10:15:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: All (#17)

docs.house.gov/billsthisw...PSSOM%20FY18-OMNI.OCR.pdf

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-03-25   10:15:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: sneakypete, buckeroo (#2)

There is no specific allocation of funds for building a wall. Trump is full of shit.

As much as I hate to agree with bucky, I thought Trump was supposed to make MEXICO pay for the wall...

So what's with this bait & switch?

Willie Green  posted on  2018-03-25   10:16:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: sneakypete (#18)

So, the US Army Corps of Engineers are going to have a 25 BILLION dollar training/exercise on the US border between Mexico?

You have been smoking some wacky-tabacky, Pete.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-25   10:16:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A K A Stone (#17)

I like being on your side instead of against you. :)

It had to happen sooner or later,right?

Sometimes different is good.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-25   10:16:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: sneakypete, buckeroo, tooconservative (#15)

There is a repeal mechanism in a 1974 Budget Act statute. https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE-88/pdf/STATUTE-88-Pg297.pdf

(Start at pages 36-37 of the download, under Title X, Sections 1100-)

Congress has 45 days to submit items for rescission, and to vote.

5 posted on 3/24/2018, 7:08:15 PM by research99

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-03-25   10:21:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: buckeroo (#1)

"There is no specific allocation of funds for building a wall. Trump is full of shit."

Is the military allowed to build a wall around the 2,000 U.S. troops stationed in Manbij, Syria?

misterwhite  posted on  2018-03-25   10:22:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Willie Green (#21)

I thought Trump was supposed to make MEXICO pay for the wall...

They pay later. Even if they don't and we get it who cares. It saves money. It saves our culture.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-03-25   10:23:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: misterwhite (#25)

Is the military allowed to build a wall around the 2,000 U.S. troops stationed in Manbij, Syria?

Often, you post the most outrageous ideas. Answer your own question while considering a method of comparative analysis.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-25   10:27:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: sneakypete (#19) (Edited)

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/economic-intelligence/articles/2017-07-19/congress- slyly-diverts-pentagon-money-to-fund-donald-trumps-border-wall

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-03-25   10:27:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: A K A Stone (#20)

docs.house.gov/billsthisw...PSSOM%20FY18-OMNI.OCR.pdf

That's true,but it doesn't really apply since he wouldn't be sending US troops anybody but in the US. Yeah,Texas,especially around Austin,and all of California can be more than a little foreign to sane people,but they are STILL US states.

I repeat,NO President has to ask anybody for a single damn thing to see American troops anywhere in America,and to even suggest he would have to get permission to send them to Texas,Arizona,California,or any other American state to do construction projects as part of their annual training mission is absurd.

Don't believe me,ask anybody that ever served on active or reserve duty with ANY branch of the US Military.

It's been decades since I even looked at any of my printed assignment or transfer orders,but IIRC,EVERY ONE OF THEM had "by order of the President of the United States......" on them.

How many of you loons think that either/both LBJ or Nixon took time of their day to think to themselves,"what I really need to do today is write up some orders to send Sgt Sneakypete somewhere!" PRESIDENTS HAVE THIS AUTHORITY BY VIRTUE OF BEING PRESIDENT.

IF Presidents didn't have this authority WHY didn't the left file lawsuits against LBJ and Nixon during the VN war to keep them from sending troops to VN or anywhere else?

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-25   10:28:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: buckeroo (#27)

Answer your own question while considering a method of comparative analysis.

I'm guessing you would say they can't because Congress didn't specifically allocate the money for a wall in Syria, right?

misterwhite  posted on  2018-03-25   10:31:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#5)

We have to stop human trafficking and enemy combabants from crossing the border.

And drugs. Like opioids.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-03-25   10:33:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: sneakypete (#29)

I repeat,NO President has to ask anybody for a single damn thing to see American troops anywhere in America,and to even suggest he would have to get permission to send them to Texas,Arizona,California,or any other American state to do construction projects as part of their annual training mission is absurd.

But that isn't the question.

It is the material support: bricks, mortar, cement, technical support and surveillance equipment. These material resources add up to BILLIONS of bucks. That requires Congressional approval.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-25   10:33:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Willie Green (#21)

As much as I hate to agree with bucky, I thought Trump was supposed to make MEXICO pay for the wall...

He was,and maybe will down the road by using taxes/tarriffs on anything entering the US from Mexico. Right now he has to do what is possible,which is not necessarily the same thing as what he wants to do.

So what's with this bait & switch?

Why are you asking me? Ask the Party People in the alleged Republican Party and their brothers in the Dim Party.

In FACT,why even blame Trump for this? Yeah,he ran for president with this being a large part of his platform,but who can blame him for ASSUMING that a Republican Congress would go along with a newly elected Republican President,instead of joining hands with the left in a Kumbaya Moment?

Blame the traitors in congress with R's behind their names,and their treasonous supporters,

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-25   10:35:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: misterwhite (#30)

I'm guessing you would say they can't because Congress didn't specifically allocate the money for a wall in Syria, right?

I don't know why the USA is involved in Syria, to begin with. But, there is allocation of funding by this silly & stupid Congress.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-25   10:35:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: All (#28)

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/economic-intelligence/articles/2017-07- 19/congress-slyly-diverts-pentagon-money-to-fund-donald-trumps-border-wall

I keep copying the same link. It works then it doesn't.

If it doesn't try googleing

Building a Wall in the Dark Congress is using budget shenanigans to funnel Pentagon money to President Trump’s border wall.

By Ryan Alexander

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-03-25   10:35:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: buckeroo (#22)

So, the US Army Corps of Engineers are going to have a 25 BILLION dollar training/exercise on the US border between Mexico?

No,shithead,THE US MILITARY will be using money from their annual budgets to build the wall. Granted,the US Army Corps of Engineers will probably head up the effort because they are the largest engineering unit in the military and have the most officers and NCO's that are qualified to supervise the job,but the US Navy,USAF,and the USMC will also be involved. Especially the reserve units.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-25   10:38:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: A K A Stone (#26)

I thought Trump was supposed to make MEXICO pay for the wall...

They pay later. Even if they don't and we get it who cares. It saves money. It saves our culture.

Bucky just wants to whine.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-25   10:39:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: buckeroo (#32)

That requires Congressional approval.

Read my links. They gave the President the power to realocate funds in 1985 to fight the deficit.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-03-25   10:39:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: sneakypete (#36)

You are a little touchy, today. But, let's go back to details: there is no specific allocation of Congressional approval for a 25 BILLION dollar wall.

Trump is smoking the same wacky-tabaky that you are.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-25   10:41:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: A K A Stone (#26)

It saves our culture.

Jorge Dubya Arbusto flushed that down the toilet a long time ago & there's no going back.

Willie Green  posted on  2018-03-25   10:42:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: buckeroo (#32)

But that isn't the question.

It is the material support: bricks, mortar, cement, technical support and surveillance equipment. These material resources add up to BILLIONS of bucks. That requires Congressional approval.

Yeah,it is. Unless you think maybe the bricks,mortar,cement,etc,etc,etc will dig and pour the footings,build the forms,and pour the cement themselves.

I don't want to shock you,but that comes out of the defense budget. How did you think the military engineers train without bricks,mortar,etc,etc,etc? The ONLY way to learn to build something is to build something.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-25   10:43:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: buckeroo (#34)

I don't know why the USA is involved in Syria, to begin with.

I have to admit that is a mystery to me and many other people,also.

But, there is allocation of funding by this silly & stupid Congress.

Of course there was/is. It is a unplanned (in more ways than one,it seems)military movement to a foreign nation. In other words,it wasn't funded in the annual budget.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-25   10:45:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: buckeroo (#39)

You are a little touchy, today.

Yeah,I am.I am fed UP with the constant whining by RINO bitches about anything and everything Trump does or says in an effort to make his presidency fail.

If Trump came out in favor of sunshine,you shitheads would suddenly hate it and call him a traitor to "truth,justice,and the 'murikan way of electing RINO slugs".

But, let's go back to details:

Ok.

there is no specific allocation of Congressional approval for a 25 BILLION dollar wall.

Nor does there have to be,dummy! Civilians aren't being hired to build it. The US Military will be building it AS A PART OF THEIR NORMAL OCCUPATIONAL TRAINING,AND THE MONEY TO PAY THEM HAS ALREADY BEEN BUDGETED.

DAYUM,how many times does this simple fact have to be explained to you?

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-25   10:50:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: sneakypete (#42)

A permanent structure authorized by the POTUS does not require Congressional approval by Congress for funding?

Where did you hear about this idea?

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-25   10:51:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Willie Green (#40)

Jorge Dubya Arbusto flushed that down the toilet a long time ago & there's no going back.

With MUCHO help from his fellow travelers who dream of a Global World Government that has everyone under their thumb.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-25   10:52:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: sneakypete (#43)

Nor does there have to be,dummy! Civilians aren't being hired to build it. The US Military will be building it AS A PART OF THEIR NORMAL OCCUPATIONAL TRAINING,AND THE MONEY TO PAY THEM HAS ALREADY BEEN BUDGETED.

You have missed the obvious details, Pete. Where is the approval of funding for the bricks & mortar?

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-25   10:53:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: buckeroo (#44)

A permanent structure authorized by the POTUS does not require Congressional approval by Congress for funding?

Where did you hear about this idea?

Ok,you are living proof that you can lead a jackass to water,but you can't make him drink.

Go back to eating your boogers and leave the rest of us alone.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-25   10:54:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: A K A Stone (#0)

I actually think this is a brilliant Strategy. Out of the box thinking you only see on the left because the right is to afraid to push the limit for its voters for offending the left!

I'm not a sure how it works constitutionally. But it is in the interest of national defense to build the wall then the military can have this wall built.

Justified  posted on  2018-03-25   11:00:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: buckeroo (#46) (Edited)

You have missed the obvious details, Pete. Where is the approval of funding for the bricks & mortar?

I have already explained to you it comes out of the annual training budget. If you can't understand something as basic as engineers need building materials to train,and that those building materials are a part of the normal military budget,there is no hope for you.

BTW,don't even TRY a dumbass "Duuuuuhhhh,iz day iny bricks in de budgit n kin yew sho dim to me?" question. Overall budgets don't name specific items. There is a section that will have a title something like "construction materials for proposed training projects",but that is about as specific as it gets for an annual budget.

Annual budgets HAVE to be flexible because no one can predict what will happen in the future.

But you really know all this,anyhow. You just want to whine about Trump.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-25   11:01:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Justified (#48)

But it is in the interest of national defense to build the wall then the military can have this wall built.

Congress declares war. Congress allocates the budget. It isn't based on some insane idea of Presidential dictatorial powers.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-25   11:03:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: buckeroo (#3)

Hey, pal, that means he has declared a WAR on the US border between Mexico/USA.

Wow. That's as dumb as a democRat.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2018-03-25   11:04:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: sneakypete (#49)

I have already explained to you it comes out of the annual training budget. If you can't understand something as basic as engineers need building materials to train,and that those building materials are a part of the normal military budget,there is no hope for you.

25 BILLION USD for a couple of years? Who are you kidding when the US Defense Department is about 600 Billion.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-25   11:05:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: buckeroo (#34)

But, there is allocation of funding by this silly & stupid Congress.

General military funding, sure. But not specifically for a wall in Syria.

The President has the authority and obligation to protect Americans, right? Normally, he delegates this authority to the people below him. But he has the power to tell them speciically how to use that money.

Nixon did in the (undelared) Vietnam War by ordering specific bombing missions on Hanoi (Operation Linebacker II) and targets in Cambodia. Johnson did it with Operation Rolling Thunder.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-03-25   11:05:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: misterwhite (#53)

General military funding, sure. But not specifically for a wall in Syria.

When US personnel are intentionally placed in harm's way, as in Syria, it is understood. Presence of military in Syria is somehow approved by a stupid & silly Congress.

On the USA/Mexico border .... no way.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-25   11:10:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: buckeroo (#50)

American has not been constitutional in a long time. I'm sure there is a way it can be done. For once let the president work for the people instead of special interest of selling out America.

The problem I see is if Trump has it put up the next president can have it taken down or have no maintenance done on wall and then wink to the drug lords to blow it up.

Justified  posted on  2018-03-25   11:13:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: buckeroo (#50)

Congress allocates the budget. It isn't based on some insane idea of Presidential dictatorial powers.

Hmmmm. Congress passed a drug budget, but Obama -- using his "dictatorial" powers -- refused to fund marijuana enforcement and directed those funds elsewhere.

Seems to me that nobody, including you, had a problem with that.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-03-25   11:19:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: buckeroo (#54)

When US personnel are intentionally placed in harm's way, as in Syria, it is understood.

The U.S. military invaded Grenada in 1983 "over concerns for the 600 U.S. medical students on the island and fears of a repeat of the Iran hostage crisis".

Those students were not intentionally placed in arms way.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-03-25   11:32:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Justified (#55)

The problem I see is if Trump has it put up the next president can have it taken down

That's true of any Executive Order by any President. Trump is having a field day overturning Obama's EO's.

But if the wall is put up and we experience positive results, I don't see how it can be torn down. That's really what the Democrats fear -- that it will actually work.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-03-25   11:39:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: buckeroo (#3)

Hey, pal, that means he has declared a WAR on the US border between Mexico/USA.

War cannot be declared against borders. Only countries, of course.

He certainly has authority to order the military to build things. The only thing I can think of that might stop him from doing this is the eminent domain requirements to for private land holders near the border, as it may require a law passed to seize that land. I don't know.

But I think it's likely that the president could have an avenue this way. The amount of money cited for the whole wall is far less than the military budget that was passed.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-03-25   11:40:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: misterwhite (#58)

If Trump can dismantle Obummercare and get the wall! OMG he will be worth everything he does! LOL

Trump has already out done both bushes and if he pulls off the wall he will be up there with President Reagan in just over one freaking year! Doing all this while fighting the progressive left(commies) from both parties and 99% of the media!!

I love that he does not give up and just keeps beating the progressive left at nearly everything. I believe the left(both parties) thought they could just roll right over Trump and send him home with his tail between his legs!

Another thing as much as I know about Trump those that went after his family just pissed him off more! Which makes him fight harder.

Justified  posted on  2018-03-25   12:13:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Justified (#60)

If Trump can dismantle Obummercare and get the wall! OMG he will be worth everything he does! LOL

He's got until November, 2020. If he doesn't get it done by then, he might just as well not even run. He will not get my vote.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-03-25   13:00:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Justified (#60)

Another thing as much as I know about Trump those that went after his family just pissed him off more! Which makes him fight harder.

Here's another thing we know about Trump; When he feels he's been betrayed (by certain advisers), embarrassed and rolled (which is rare), THAT makes him even more resolute. And he IS extremely embarrassed over this debacle.

Initially I thought the Deep State and Ryan/McConnell just steamrolled him, blackmailing Trump into signing this Budget monstrosity (That may still be the case)...

But I've got the feeling that DT is preparing some yuge redemptive moves. Some that will shock & awe. Wishful thinking? Perhaps.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-25   13:04:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: sneakypete, Willie Green, A K A Stone (#33) (Edited)

I thought Trump was supposed to make MEXICO pay for the wall...

He was,and maybe will down the road by using taxes/tarriffs on anything entering the US from Mexico...

Yup.

There are many indirect ways that Mexico can and will wind up financing this Wall.

Trump can also return DACA and Illegals to Mexico who have been bleeding billions in US Taxpayer subsidies.

In FACT,why even blame Trump for this?

Yeah,he ran for president with this being a large part of his platform,but who can blame him for ASSUMING that a Republican Congress would go along with a newly elected Republican President,instead of joining hands with the left in a Kumbaya Moment?

Amen! (But remember -- Willie is now a loyal Democrat.)

It should indeed be noted htat McConnell (D) and Ryan (D) are most responsible for blackmailing OTHER Congressional Pubbies into betraying the President and the conservative, America First agenda, colluding with the Dem-Left. What they've done is unprecedented. Imagine Dems voting against 0bama en mass? NOPE, me neither.

Blame the traitors in congress with R's behind their names,and their treasonous supporters,

Yes. Exactly.

Why and how is Mitch McConnell avoiding scrutiny and any criticism at all?? Oh, that's right -- the Dem-Left controlled MEDIA has his back.

Trump is between a rock & hard place if he goes after McConnell. And McConnell knows it.

THIS book might help (excerpt from Breitbart):

[Peter] Schweizer joined Monday’s edition of SiriusXM’s Breitbart News Tonight for an interview with co-hosts Rebecca Mansour and Joel Pollak to discuss McConnell’s linkages to China, as detailed in his latest book, Secret Empires: How the American Political Class Hides Corruption and Enriches Family and Friends

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-25   13:21:42 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: sneakypete (#13)

If you had ever been in the military you would know better.
He was a “garrison soldier” stationed in Munich during the Nam conflict.

He had a photographer’s MOS.

Gatlin  posted on  2018-03-25   18:03:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: buckeroo (#1)

It is not a budget, it is an omnibus spending bill, President Donald John Trump can do exactly what obamite the sodomiet did, he can spend it anyway he wants to.

You remember obamite the sodomite don't you, the two bit sodomite traitorous muslim terrorist who usurped and held the oval office till Donald Trump rescued it.

BobCeleste  posted on  2018-03-25   19:14:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Willie Green (#21)

As much as I hate to agree with bucky, I thought Trump was supposed to make MEXICO pay for the wall...

So what's with this bait & switch?

I had thought better of you.

Read the dec 21 2017 EO, think Chappo or whatever the creep drug dealers name that that that movie guy set up, he had something like 24 billion, we grabbed it, he is a mexican, now we spend it on the wall, and mexico pays more towards the wall.

Each time a Mexican sends money south of the border, a percentage is grabbed and is allocated towards construction of the wall.

while you play hop scotch with Bucky, the President plays 3D chess.

BobCeleste  posted on  2018-03-25   19:21:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: BobCeleste (#66)

the President plays 3D chess.

the President is obviously no chess player, he has no respect for pawns and looses his capital pieces one after another

paraclete  posted on  2018-03-25   19:27:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Trump tweet: military is going to build the wall!

Make it a good one out of steel reinforced concrete and manned sniper turrets every quarter mile.

rlk  posted on  2018-03-25   19:29:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: sneakypete (#29) (Edited)

IF Presidents didn't have this authority WHY didn't the left file lawsuits against LBJ and Nixon during the VN war to keep them from sending troops to VN or anywhere else?

Because knew they were supporting a catastrophe from which the U. S. would not recover. They did'nt want to file lawsuits to keep that catastrophe from happening.

rlk  posted on  2018-03-25   19:53:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: paraclete, BobCeleste (#67)

Trump can't even play Chinese checkers because it's obvious that he's lost all his marbles...

Willie Green  posted on  2018-03-25   21:01:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Pinguinite (#59)

He certainly has authority to order the military to build things.

He better claim a national emergency and I doubt he will do that.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-25   23:04:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: buckeroo (#71)

He better claim a national emergency and I doubt he will do that.

I understand the USA has been in an official state of continuous national emergency since it was declared by President Franklin D Roosevelt, in which case, that part is already done.

Perhaps they should establish a state of "extra" national emergency.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-03-26   0:52:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Pinguinite (#72)

If Trump t.r.u.m.p.s the Congressional Omnibus Act (the budget without parsing words) after signing it, he is in BIG DEEP DOODOO.

There is no provision of a US/Mexico WALL construction project. There is just a few miles of fencing reconstruction.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-26   0:58:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Gatlin (#64)

He was a “garrison soldier” stationed in Munich during the Nam conflict.

He had a photographer’s MOS.

Still,even a photographer in the military should know this. It's not like it's hidden.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-26   1:33:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: buckeroo (#73)

If Trump t.r.u.m.p.s the Congressional Omnibus Act (the budget without parsing words) after signing it, he is in BIG DEEP DOODOO.

Yeah, right.

And so is Hillary for having a private email server with classified info on it. And for doing pay for play as Sec of State. And stealing the D nomination from Sanders. And a couple dozen other things.

There is no provision of a US/Mexico WALL construction project. There is just a few miles of fencing reconstruction.

Yes, that's generally understood.

Buck, look, you hate Trump. A lot of people really, really hate Trump. I get it, and it's okay. I do see his personal shortcomings. Everyone does. Yes, he's a womanizer. And I don't even care for his policies on civil liberties and foreign policy. He sucks there, though I am hoping that maybe he'll figure out soon that Putin is not the Great Satan that everyone around him has been telling him.

But please just admit your personal hatred and don't pretend that all these lines in the sand and political criticisms are anything but disguised hatred. For anyone who does that, my respect for them will definitely go up. Why? Because I respect honesty. Trump may very well build the wall with the military funds. Certainly, a defensive wall at the country's border can fall within the domain of national defense. But unlike you, I don't have hopes staked on whether it happens or not because the USA is already totally screwed anyway. But good luck to you.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-03-26   1:34:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Pinguinite (#75)

I don't "hate" Trump; I don't like the fact that he represents self-interests and not the common man, is all. I will say, unlike others before him, he doesn't hide behind a "fork tongue."

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-26   9:18:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: buckeroo (#76)

I don't "hate" Trump; I don't like the fact that he represents self-interests and not the common man, is all.

I think that's the stereotype given he's a billionaire or whatever. But I don't think that's really true. I think he is patriotic and really does want to do what's best for the country and middle class. It's politicians like Hillary that claim to be for the little people who in no way are. The Dem's demonstrated it is first class fashion when they completely threw away the chance to make a permanent deal for Dreamers. Dreamers should understand now that the D's are only using them as a tool, that their predicament is a valuable thing for the D's only as long as their predicament exists, and that after any deal is made for them, the D's will have no more use for them.

Politicians are used to being bought and bribed, but since Trump doesn't need anyone's money, he's not bribeable. At least not with money. Maybe with women, but not money.

I will say, unlike others before him, he doesn't hide behind a "fork tongue."

And I think that's his appeal to the average person. They are sick and tired of standard political double speak & BS. Trump says what he really thinks. It's sometime vulgar. It's sometimes offensive. But it's real. And people are hungry for a real president who says what he really thinks. That's a *very* refreshing thing, even for women who are otherwise offended by his sexist personal behavior.

Thank you.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-03-26   10:31:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Pinguinite (#77)

I think that's the stereotype given he's a billionaire or whatever. But I don't think that's really true.

I am not concerned with his wealth. I am concerned with "conviction of principle."

I think he is patriotic and really does want to do what's best for the country and middle class.

Don't they all?

It's politicians like Hillary that claim to be for the little people who in no way are.

Don't they all?

The Dem's demonstrated it is first class fashion when they completely threw away the chance to make a permanent deal for Dreamers. Dreamers should understand now that the D's are only using them as a tool, that their predicament is a valuable thing for the D's only as long as their predicament exists, and that after any deal is made for them, the D's will have no more use for them.

It was part of their strategy to move the 1.3 Trillion dollar Omnibus Act. They won, too.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-26   11:32:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: BobCeleste (#66) (Edited)

Read the dec 21 2017 EO, think Chappo or whatever the creep drug dealers name that that that movie guy set up, he had something like 24 billion, we grabbed it,

You do realize that this didn't actually happen, right?

.....Rafael Cruz introduced a bill in congress in 2017 in an attempt to confiscate El Chapo's billions.....it is languishing in committee with little chance of passing..........

and as for the tax on outgoing transfers to Mexico......which number EO was that again?

Jameson  posted on  2018-03-26   12:51:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: buckeroo (#71)

He certainly has authority to order the military to build things.

He better claim a national emergency and I doubt he will do that.

He doesn't even have to give a reason,never mind explain anything.

You seem to be incapable of understanding this,so I am done trying to explain it to you.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-26   12:58:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Pinguinite, buckeroo (#75)

Certainly, a defensive wall at the country's border can fall within the domain of national defense. But unlike you, I don't have hopes staked on whether it happens or not because the USA is already totally screwed anyway. But good luck to you.

Bucky is terrified that Trump WILL build the wall,and he will then have one less thing to whine about,and MIGHT even be forced to admit Trump did something right.

His fear of Trump being successful is why he is so angry and desperate.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-26   13:02:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Pinguinite (#77)

Politicians are used to being bought and bribed, but since Trump doesn't need anyone's money, he's not bribeable. At least not with money.

THE prime reason so many politicians and the people who rent and buy politicians hate him so much and want to see him fail.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-26   13:03:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: sneakypete (#80)

He doesn't even have to give a reason,never mind explain anything.

If the USA operated under your oversight, I could understand the perspective. But, the USA doesn't; it operates under the US Constitution, which has three major groups to keep a check on the government.

The US Constitution requires communication between the major divisions of the federal government and particularly, the US Congress and the Administration.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-26   13:04:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: buckeroo (#83)

What part of "I am done trying to explain this to you!" is it that you are having trouble understanding?

Never mind. I'd done trying to explain that to you,too.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-27   11:06:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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