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Title: Top US General Says American Troops Should be Prepared to Die—for ISRAEL
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Published: Mar 20, 2018
Author: The Free Thought Project
Post Date: 2018-03-21 09:27:17 by Deckard
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“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same…” This is the oath of enlistment that every American military service member or federal employee takes upon entry into government service (with slight variation for commissioned officers). With the largest joint U.S.-Israeli air defense exercise ever conducted having recently concluded, which involved over 2,500 American service personnel, and in the midst of heightened Israeli involvement in the Syrian war, we find ourselves asking… Are US troops ready to fight and to die for Earlier this month, in the midst of the 9th annual 12-day massive joint exercise named “Juniper Cobra” which was hailed in Israeli media as the largest of its kind, simulating a “battle on three fronts” (namely, Syria-Lebanon-Gaza Strip) US Third Air Force Commander Lt. Gen. Richard Clark spelled out just such a scenario wherein US troops could be asked to fight and to die for defense of While major joint military exercises involving significant troop deployments are nothing new for the US and its allies (Juniper Cobra itself has been conducted annually for nearly a decade), Lt. Gen. Clark’s words to Israeli media are truly precedent setting and shocking, especially as he is among the highest ranking military officers in the US armed forces. It is well worth reading the alarming scenario Gen. Clark laid out while speaking to the Jerusalem Post in its entirety: “The United States and Israel enjoy a strong and enduring military-to-military partnership built on a trust that has been developed over decades of cooperation,” said USAF Third Air Force commander Lt.-Gen. Richard Clark, who also serves as the commander for the deploying Joint Task Force – Israel. “The Juniper Cobra exercises continue to strengthen this relationship, providing us with the opportunity to bolster interoperability and develop seamless integration with our Israeli partners.” According to Clark, the US and Israeli troops will work side-by-side under each other’s relevant chain of command. But this is where Clark pushes far across the normative “military-to-military partnership” characteristic of joint drills with other allied nations. He says that US troops should be prepared to die for the Jewish State: “As far as decision-making, it is a partnership,” he continued, stressing nonetheless that “at the end of the day it is about the protection of Israel – and if there is a question in regards to how we will operate, the last vote will probably go to Zvika [Brig.-Gen. Zvika Haimovitch, head of the IDF’s Aerial Defense Division].” Washington and Israel have signed an agreement which would see the US come to assist Israel with missile defense in times of war and, according to [Israeli commander] Haimovitch, “I am sure once the order comes we will find here US troops on the ground to be part of our deployment team to defend the State of Israel.” And those US troops who would be deployed to Israel, are prepared to die for the Jewish state, Clark said. “We are ready to commit to the defense of Israel anytime we get involved in a kinetic fight there is always the risk that there will be casualties. But we accept that – as every conflict we train for and enter, there is always that possibility,” he said. And it appears that both military leaders are in agreement on this point – that they are ready and willing to put US troops in harm’s way in pursuit of Israeli defense policy. Disturbingly, Clark acknowledges willingness for life-and-death battlefield decisions impacting American soldiers to be placed in the hands of the Israeli chain of command in saying: “if there is a question in regards to how we will operate, the last vote will probably go to [Israeli General] Zvika.” While in more stable times in the Middle East, Clark’s words might possibly be dismissed as hyperbole and misplaced enthusiasm for “the mission” – his words come as Israel is already actively involved on two fronts: Gaza and Syria. And according to many analysts and reports, including one recently leaked internal Israeli defense memo, Israel is ramping up for devastating engagement along a third front as Tel Aviv continues to view Lebanese Hezbollah to its north as the prime threat to Israeli security. Should broader war break out between Israel, Hezbollah, Iran, and Syria, will US troops who find themselves working closely with the IDF be forced to obey the commands of Israeli generals, even to the point of death? We can’t find anything in the oath of enlistment or the Constitution [federal statute in 10 U.S.C. 502, and based in Article VI of the Constitution] that requires US citizens or soldiers to defend and fight for a foreign nation. Poster Comment: And those US troops who would be deployed to Israel, are prepared to die for the Jewish state, Clark said. “We are ready to commit to the defense of Israel anytime we get involved in a kinetic fight there is always the risk that there will be casualties. But we accept that – as every conflict we train for and enter, there is always that possibility,” he said.America’s Israel’s defense? …We think not, but there are US generals out there enthusiastically promoting the idea. America Israel – even to the point of being placed under Israeli commanders responsible for battlefield decision making.
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#35. To: Vicomte13 (#34)
Yes Vic he has more important things to do. Like help you with your magic show of raising lizards and cockroaches from the dead. And healing your neck (not anyone else though because you said so) because you are special and he needs you to get rid of that bad book the Bible that is full of errors.
Well, I guess we can return to it again. The Bible is full of errors. The earth is probably 4-5 billion years old. Man evolved from primates. The Creation myth in Genesis 1 is just that - a myth. It is not literally true. The world was not created in 7 calendar days, and life did not appear "poof". IF you religion hangs on every word of the Bible being literally true, then your religion is itself a myth. POOF! It disappears because Genesis 1 is false. You're no different than a Muslim, believing nonsense BECAUSE it's written in a book that you've been told not to question. IF you believe that the earth is 6000 years old, you are a ridiculous person. That wasn't true in 1400, when we did not have modern scientific technique, but it is now, in 2018, for a Western-educated person who should know better and who has learned the scientific method, to persist in the LITERAL belief, and disbelief, in things that are so. If you're religion can't handle the truth, then it's a waste - and your religion CAN'T handle the truth. Just because Genesis isn't true doesn't make it worthless. Paul wrote something dramatic that isn't true either. ALL have sinned he wrote. That's bullshit. Babies have never sinned, not ever. And babies are 10% of the population. Paul would have been accurate if he had said 90% of people have sinned, but he said "ALL" and that's false. Now, YOU - in your relentless anger and bigotry - would scream at anybody who said "ALL" when the real number is 90%. You would say "You're a LIAR!" So, using YOUR favored discussion techniques, Paul's a LIAR. Both Genesis 1 at the beginning of the Bible, and Paul towards the end, both contain things that are not true - THEREFORE - again using YOUR terminology - the Bible is full of LIES. And because YOU say God wrote the Bible, then God is a liar, and liars are damned, so God is a Goddamned Liar, using YOUR argumentative method. Your method is chaotic and stupid, and leads you there. I am a more reasonable person. Paul was a man, an enthusiastic man. He never claimed equality with God, and he urged people towards Jesus, not towards worshiping Paul himself. He resorted to hyperbole, and wrote a bunch of letters without studying everything he ever wrote before that. Which means that there are lots of contradictions in Paul's letter, as would be expected when any man writes a lot, and passionately. SOME of those contradictions, and SOME of those things that are not literally true (such as "ALL have sinned"), are simply hyperbole. Yes, Paul, a man, is permitted to use hyperbole in his writings. No, the fact that some men decided to include Paul's letters in a book that the men called "The Bible" does not magically convert Paul's hyperbole into infallible truth. YOU'RE the one who believes it does. But given that there are failures and falsehoods and myths all over Scripture, you're pushed further and further into defending the indefensible, until finally you resort to your own hyperbole, which is: "Every word is true because I believe it is, and if you don't then you're wrong and your religion is false!" What a load of hooey. Yet that is precisely what you and your co-religionists believe. You have dug yourself a pit of self-willed ignorance that you can't be talked out of, and consider yourselves holy - the more ridiculous and counterfactual, the more your faith must be true. In this, you are the carbon copy of the Muslims: ignorant fanatics. As far as morality goes, I see a man - you - who hates the poor - and I see your co-religionists arguing for the morality of slavery. Which means you're evil and opposed to God - and you use your little book - your idol, with all of it errors - as proof of that. And you're angry that the world doesn't buy your the bullshit of your false religion. Now, here's the thing, I'm ALSO angry that Catholic priests have molested boys and the Church has covered it up. I'm not happy at the accumulations of wealth in the Church (though the valuable artwork at the Vatican does not trouble me: the Vatican is, for all intents and purposes, a public museum of religious art. The only use of art is display, and the Vatican displays the work of masters for all to see. Should the Vatican sell it all to private owners and thereby deprive the public of the ability to see it? How would that be just? Or perhaps give it to public museums - but why do that when the Vatican already IS a public museum. Certainly the way that the Vatican was BUILT, FIVE HUNDRED YEARS AGO, with the sale of Indulgences, was a scandal that rightly enraged many, including Luther: he was right about that. But this is 2018, and carping endlessly about the "wealth" of the Church is dishonest. Artwork and buildings where worship is held, the patrimony of the past, isn't the sort of "wealth" that can be turned into anything than what it already is: a public museum of museum pieces - that people pay money to see. That money goes into the church coffers, and a great deal of that is used for charity all over the world. Could the Church be more efficient about that? Probably not. Already when one compares the various charitable organizations, the Catholic Church, with an 8% overhead cost, compares favorably to virtually every private charity and all public institutions. If you give $1 to a Church charitable fund, 8 cents of that will be used to keep the lights on and pay the salaries and upkeep of the religious, and 92 cents will be spent on the charity. Find any major charity that operates so efficiently at that scale? You can't. None exists. So despite the endless wailing and carping about the "wealth" of the Catholic Church, it's a BS complaint. But complaints about covering up pedophilia - that is legitimate. The complaint that priests should be allowed to marry is, likewise, legitimate. I don't defend the sins of the Catholic Church, past or present. I'm not angered by the ancient sins: men sin, and that was a long time ago. I am angered by the present, ongoing sin, and I won't defend it. You and your ilk, though, are not honest enough to examine the errors in your own organizations, or the evils in your beliefs - about the poor, for example. You're quick to judge the Catholics, collectively and individually, and you don't even SEE your own sins. It's the classic plank- in-the-eye that Jesus spoke of. Given that no real discussion is ever had with you: you just repeat the same stupid bullshit over and over. You believe in myths that are in the Bible. I don't. And I am able to, nevertheless, maintain my own respect for and use of the Bible EVEN THOUGH I recognize that it isn't all literally true, and EVEN THOUGH I recognize that literary forms such as hyperbole and poetry are used in it which means that parts cannot be taken literally. Other parts can be, and I am well-educated enough to be able to see the differences, which are obvious. Also, I don't believe that the Bible is the "Constitution" of the Church, or the final authority, or anything like what you believe. Nor does the Bible ever say that it is. The Church WROTE the Bible, and the authority of God is expressed primarily through the Church. The Bible is a book written by men. It contains some of the words of God, including those words that impart the authority to the Church that I believe the Church has. My beliefs are consistent with what modern science has taught me, with what the Church traditions are, and also with my own moral authority, which comes from being a creature of God close to God. When it comes down to a conflict, my own moral sense ALWAYS is superior in authority to the Bible and to the Church also, as it must me. Jesus tells people to tear out their eyes and cut off their limbs if they can't resist sins. Origen as unable to resist the sin of masturbation, so he cut off his own penis and testicles. Was he right? He LITERALLY followed Jesus' commandments. Did Jesus mean those things literally? Or was Jesus using hyperbole to make a point? If you're a literalist, then praise Origen and follow his example. I've explained this, and more, to you many times. All you ever do is come back with more sarcastic juvenile crap. Same shit, over and over again. So yeah, I actually DO have more important things to do than to reiterate the same things, over and over again. I made no magic show of two things raised from the dead. I state factually what God did with me. Those things happened. You mock them and mock me. That's certainly your right. I never said get rid of that bad book. For a man who claims to be devoted to God you are such a serial liar, and you mock what God has done. This is another reason that it's a waste of my time. You are an unwitting agent of the Devil, and you are going to rage against the truth whenever and wherever you see it. And then you will die, and you will see the truth. Until then, you're going to do what you do. With regards to me, that means marching right alongside of your buddy VxH, saying exactly the same lies, in the same way, and making the same false accusations about what I have supposedly said and done, over and over again. To converse with you is to be mocked by a liar who mocks God. Your hatred of the poor is mocking God, and you don't even understand the Bible you claim to profess. So why, exactly, do you want to have more conversation with me? What is the point. I recognize that this is a waste of time: you're a poorly educated bigot who lies a lot, and a nasty evil person. This is why I really did mistake you for VxH: you sound like him, you do the same thing he does. I would bet that you're both the same Protestant religion, and you praise your self- deceit as faith. As I said, God never called me to be a teacher. He did remonstrate with me to be a peacemaker, and communicating with you two does not keep the peace. So yeah, actually, I do have more important things than to go over this same dull, tired ground with you again and again. I'm not your teacher. You won't listen to the man you proclaim is your Savior, so what's to be done with you? Just put up with your abuse? I do. But I shouldn't.
You're right, I am special to God. And you're not. Go figure out why.
Why do you insist on slandering me? Did you throw the 10 commandments in the trash too.
No need for Jesus then Huh. No original sin, no need for redemption. Your have revealed your views to be even more sinister than you have ever let on before.
My friends are the poor. I don't live in a McMansion in Connecitut. I'm not an elitest saying I am special according to God and you are not. That is what you say. You really cannot handle criticism very well. Why again aren't you a hypocrite when you say God doesn't heal anyone then you say he healed you?
I don't really care much about your words when you attack Gods word. Just like you don't like Timothys words when he says all scripture is from the creator God. I have faith in Gods word, you don't. Faith is how you get saved. Not doubt and calling God a liar. You have your own custom religion that only you believe. Unless you pounded it into your kids too. Hopefully not.
Because I find it fascinating that someone who claims to believe in Jesus. Regularly attacks the book that we learn about Jesus from.
That is for sure. Because if I took your lessons I would end up not believing in God and I'd get a job at a pet store raising lizards and bugs and stuff from the dead. You didn't do that your parents must have slipped you some acid. I'm not going to dispute if God healed you. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. My only contention there is you are a giant hypocrite because you said God doesn't heal anyone. That is why I say you think you are special. I've been fair with you in this discussion. You haven't by calling me evil, bigot etc. To you someone quoting scripture is evil. I guess all the apostles were evil then because they just made up a bunch of lies according to you. Even Peter. You are one goofy scripturally challenged know it all.
You should test out your beliefs by having sex with a monkey and seeing if you reproduce. You don't have to do that because you will not reproduce with a monkey you think you came from. 1 Timothy 6:19-21 King James Version (KJV) 19 Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life. 20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: 21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.
6-8 Jesus replied, “You hypocrites, Isaiah described you beautifully when he wrote—‘This people honours me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. And in vain they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men’. You are so busy holding on to the traditions of men that you let go the commandment of God!” 9-13 Then he went on, “It is wonderful to see how you can set aside the commandment of God to preserve your own tradition! For Moses said, ‘Honour your father and your mother’ and ‘He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death’. But you say, ‘if a man says to his father or his mother, Korban—meaning, I have given God whatever duty I owed to you’, then he need not lift a finger any longer for his father or mother, so making the word of God invalid for the sake of the tradition which you hold. And this is typical of much of what you do.” 21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.
That is itself a lie. When I call you a hypocrite because you clearly said God does't heal anyone. But then you said he heals you. That isn't a lie. But if you are so smart why can't you explain why God heals you and no one else. You dodge this question and every question you are getting when you are losing and at a loss for words. I'd be embarrassed if I said that and couldn't explain how it isn't hypocrisy. I'll keep asking it to until you answer it to my satisfaction.
Are you sure it wasn't Shamash that healed you? In the image, an ancient Assyrian king is wearing a cross on his chest, just like the one seen on the Pope’s robe. Shamash (Akkadian Šamaš “Sun”), was a native Mesopotamian deity and the sun god in the Akkadian, Assyrian and Babylonian pantheons. Shamash was the god of justice in Babylonia and Assyria, corresponding to Sumerian Utu. This cross was identified with a Sun god eight centuries before Christ and long before it was called the Maltese Cross by the Knights of Malta. It’s also called the Iron Cross. Roman Catholic Adolph Hitler renewed use of the Iron Cross in 1939 and superimposed the Nazi swastika in its center. Ask yourself, why does the Pope wear the cross of Shamash the Sun god?
I don't think so.
That's ok. You can have your own view. I was thinking about posting this but I will just tell you. Poland has the least secularized youth in Poland. Good for them huh. So was I wrong about Israel being good or Muslims being bad or both?
Are you a Jehovah Witness?
No but I love it when they come to my door to talk to me. They find out they have someplace else to be. They never want to stick around and chat to long. Why do you think the Pope wears the sun gods logo?
The first is a state/government. Muslims are people like Jews in Israel, or Chinese or Latinos or Eskimos. Some are good, some are bad and most are in between. OK?
So you're saying you have no reservations about Poland becoming a distination of massive Islamic immigration? How would your wife or daughters (if you have either) feel about living is a Muslim-dominant communitah?
Strange, they like to talk with me. I even go for a beer with them sometimes.
I disagree. I think anyone who is a muslim is evil by definition. Just to be clear because sometimes I am vague. I consider a muslim to be someone who believes the Koran literally. Someone who believes that they should kill chritians and Jews like the Koran says, and the other disgusting things the Koran teaches. The rest are muslims in name only and are probably just saying they are muslim because they don't want their throats slit. You are correct in that there are good and bad Jews though.
Yeah, that is really odd. When one examines or rather scrutinizes RCC symbolism (and there is plenty of it), things get weird. I don't know if there are worthy explanations for at least some of it.
I would not like any massive immigration from anywhere into Poland. I wish every country and every nation to preserve their identity.
Well I usually print out a list of things Jehovas Witnesses believe and ask them about it. They chat for a few minutes then they have to leave.
I think that in 1930s you would say the same about the Jews.
Of course they do. No one ever said they were ALL evil or even Jihadis. As with other or certain demos, their behavior is contingent on their numbers and group-think. You DO realize that if you aren't Mooslem, you are still an "Infidel," right? Do you find it troubling what the Koran says about "Infidels"?
Then let me get your thinking correct. You're wrong. Hope that helps.
Agreed. But how do you square that with, "Some [Muslims] are good, some are bad and most are in between" when their stated mission is a Caliphate and to take over the world? (Not to mention all their overt threats and results of their negative, fatal impact on every community, town, state and nation they become influential/dominant? Can YOU as a "Christian" be confident that you and your female family members would be treated fairly while feeling safe within one of their communities?
Shamash, was the god of the sun, justice, morality, and truth. Perhaps it is a Providentional prefiguration. First Christians were depicting Christ as a Victorious Orpheus, Orpheus failed to rescue human soul from Hades, while Christ succeeded. Such frescoes are still preserved in the catacombs.
Such radical Muslims were organized, indoctrinated, trained and armed by the West. Like it was done in Afghanistan in 1980s . Arabia was given to Wahhabi Sauds by the British, to be used a a battering ram. Today West supports "moderate" jihadists in Syria. Must be a Calvinist tradition, as they waged extermination of the Irish under Cromwell, or later of whole peoples whom they considered cursed or subhuman.
Then let me get your thinking correct. You're wrong. Hope that helps. This is how I see you. You are not helping.
That is probably my fault for exaggerating my positions at times to get someones goat.
You can't actually believe that...or can you?? Islam: At war against themselves AND the West since 600 AD. Yes, there were some politics involved in manipulating these savages in the last century of so...but HOW are you forgetting the Ottoman Empire and reason for the Crusades and role of Charles Martel? Today West supports "moderate" jihadists in Syria. That's LOCAL stuff. Same as what went down in Afghanistan in the 80s. Islam remains a Death Cult bent on world domination and subjugation. Exactly AS commanded by Allah and Muhammad. Must be a Calvinist tradition, as they waged extermination of the Irish under Cromwell, or later of whole peoples whom they considered cursed or subhuman. Wait; You criticize broad-brushing an Islam that truly IS about subjugating ALL people who aren't Mooslem, but take a sliver of history and indict ALL Protestantism/Christendom with it? Nonsense.
That's LOCAL stuff. Same as what went down in Afghanistan in the 80s. Local stuff, that can spread global. What do you propose, exterminate one billion people?
You skip the hard ones because they expose your beliefs as in no way shape form or fashion based on Christ. So did the son god wave you since the little pope wears that symbol. Not to mention all the other occult symbols the little unauthorative pope wears ans stands on and sees.
So did the son god wave you since the little pope wears that symbol. Not to mention all the other occult symbols the little unauthorative pope wears ans stands on and sees. I skip the petty stuff that you're obsessed with. I never paid attention to what the Pope wears, never cared. It doesn't occupy my brain space because it's irrelevant. You're obsessed with these things, and I'm sure that in your religion they are very important. The sun is a ball of fusion. It isn't God. No Catholic thinks it is. Nobody in the Catholic Church anywhere in the world - not in America, not in Africa, not in the Philippines, not on the Pacific Islands, not in Macao or Mozambique, thinks the sun is God. That some cleric's clothing somewhere has something sown on it that looks vaguely like some ancient symbol from somewhere else is of no religious significance whatever, in any sense, at all. Except to you guys. One of the reasons that it's a waste of time trying to talk to you guys is that you're cringing in superstition and boiling with rage all the time. Who needs you?
Ok whatever you're not the least bit curious why the little sinner pope wears the sun God's symbol. You still didn't answer why you are not a hypocrite for saying god doesn't help anyone on Earth except for you. Answer that and I will leave you alone for a while.
You do not resemble Christ very much. Rather a Iscariot Zealot.
Says the liberal who supports abortion. Murder think about it.
I'm not a hypocrite, because a hypocrite is somebody who says one thing and does another. I said that God saved my life by a miracle when I broke my neck in a lake. He did. That's a fact of history. I said that God kills all of us in the end. That is also true. That's the way things are. God decided, when I was a boy, that I wasn't going to die THEN. He didn't decide that I wasn't going to die EVER. Also, Jesus explained that we don't really die, any of us. Our spirit departs from our bodies, but the spirit goes on for better or for worse, until the end of the world. Only the body dies. There's no hypocrisy in any of that. You keep using that word. It doesn't mean what you apparently think it means.
I will not criticize you for saying God saved your life. I believe that happens. My criticism is because you also said he doesn't heal people. I'll find the quote again, even though you know what I'm talking about. I'll have to do it later when I'm on computer instead of this tablet that autocorrect my words wrong all the time. Have a good day Vic. Sincerely the Bman.
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#36. To: A K A Stone (#35)
Yes Vic he has more important things to do. Like help you with your magic show of raising lizards and cockroaches from the dead. And healing your neck (not anyone else though because you said so) because you are special and he needs you to get rid of that bad book the Bible that is full of errors.
#37. To: A K A Stone (#35)
because you are special
#38. To: Vicomte13 (#36)
bigotry
#39. To: Vicomte13 (#36)
The Creation myth in Genesis 1 is just that - a myth.
#40. To: Vicomte13 (#36)
Your hatred of the poor is mocking God
#41. To: Vicomte13 (#28)
And you cannot hear those words.
#42. To: Vicomte13 (#36)
So why, exactly, do you want to have more conversation with me? What is the point.
#43. To: Vicomte13 (#36)
I'm not your teacher
#44. To: Vicomte13 (#36)
My beliefs are consistent with what modern science has taught me, with what the Church traditions
#45. To: Vicomte13 (#36)
My beliefs are consistent with what modern science has taught me, with what the Church traditions
#46. To: Vicomte13 (#36)
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saying exactly the same lies,
#47. To: Vicomte13 (#28)
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God healed my broken neck
#48. To: A K A Stone (#1)
Israel good, muslims bad.
#49. To: A Pole (#48)
#50. To: A K A Stone (#47)
Ask yourself, why does the Pope wear the cross of Shamash the Sun god?
#51. To: A Pole (#50)
Are you a Jehovah Witness?
#52. To: A K A Stone (#49)
So was I wrong about Israel being good or Muslims being bad or both?
#53. To: A Pole (#52)
Muslims are people like Jews in Israel, or Chinese or Latinos or Eskimos. Some are good, some are bad and most are in between. OK?
#54. To: A K A Stone (#51)
They find out they have someplace else to be. They never want to stick around and chat to long.
#55. To: A Pole (#52)
#56. To: A K A Stone, Vicomte13 (#47)
Why does the Pope wear the cross of Shamash the Sun god?
#57. To: Liberator (#53)
So you're saying you have no reservations about Poland becoming a distination of massive Islamic immigration?
#58. To: A Pole (#54)
Strange, they like to talk with me. I even go for a beer with them sometimes.
#59. To: A K A Stone (#55)
I think anyone who is a muslim is evil by definition.
#60. To: A Pole (#54)
Strange, they like to talk with me. I even go for a beer with them sometimes.
#61. To: A Pole (#59)
I think that in 1930s you would say the same about the Jews.
#62. To: A Pole (#57)
I would not like any massive immigration from anywhere into Poland. I wish every country and every nation to preserve their identity.
#63. To: A K A Stone, Vicomte13, Tooconservative (#51)
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Be Silent, Orpheus; thy lyre throw aside, O Hermes.
The tripod at Delphi hath sunk into oblivion forevermore.
For us David doth now play the Spirit's lyre,
The Hidden things of God's mysteries he revealeth;
A multitude of ancient wonders he narrateth;
Of the Creator of creation, doth he move one to sing.
Saving all those men he initiateth, as he writeth his verses,
Sinners doth he bring to desire repentance.
Among other teachings, to the throng doth he declare the Judge's judgments.
The purging, he doth teach, of soulful sinnings.
(Saint John Chrysostom, 349 – 407 AD)
#64. To: Liberator (#62)
But how do you square that with, "Some [Muslims] are good, some are bad and most are in between" when their stated mission is a Caliphate and to take over the world?
#65. To: A K A Stone (#61)
"I think that in 1930s you would say the same about the Jews."
#66. To: A Pole (#65)
This is how I see you. You are not helping.
#67. To: A Pole (#64)
Such radical Muslims were organized, indoctrinated, trained and armed by the West. Like it was done in Afghanistan in 1980s .
#68. To: Liberator (#67)
"Today West supports "moderate" jihadists in Syria."
#69. To: Vicomte13 (#47)
#70. To: A K A Stone (#69)
You skip the hard ones because they expose your beliefs as in no way shape form or fashion based on Christ.
#71. To: Vicomte13 (#70)
#72. To: A K A Stone (#69)
expose your beliefs as in no way shape form or fashion based on Christ.
#73. To: A Pole (#72)
#74. To: A K A Stone (#71)
You still didn't answer why you are not a hypocrite for saying god doesn't help anyone on Earth except for you. Answer that and I will leave you alone for a while.
#75. To: Vicomte13 (#74)
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