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Title: Report: Special Counsel Robert Mueller Focusing on Trump Obstruction, Not Collusion
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern ... ump-obstruction-not-collusion/
Published: Mar 20, 2018
Author: Kritina Wong
Post Date: 2018-03-20 13:51:14 by no gnu taxes
Keywords: None
Views: 7939
Comments: 93

pecial counsel Robert Mueller has focused on events since the election — not during the campaign — in his conversations with President Trump’s lawyers, Axios reported Monday.

“That suggests a focus on obstruction of justice while in office, rather than collusion with Russia during the campaign,” the report said.

The report said the top two topics that Mueller has expressed interest in so far are the firings of FBI director James Comey and national security adviser Michael Flynn.

President Trump fired Comey last May, under the recommendation of Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. However, in an interview, Trump said the Russia investigation was also on his mind.

Comey told lawmakers that Trump had asked him to let former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn go — who was under FBI investigation — during a private conversation. The president has denied making any such request.

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Comey later admitted he took notes after conversations with the president, and he gave them to at least one friend to pass to the media after he was no longer FBI director, for the purpose of prompting the appointment of a special counsel.

Mueller’s team has been negotiating with White House lawyers to work out the specifics of an interview with Trump within “the next few weeks,” according to Axios.

The “big question” is whether it will be in person, in writing, or a combination of the two.

Kenneth Starr, the special counsel whose investigation led to the impeachment of President Bill Clinton, told Fox News recently that he did not see any evidence of obstruction of justice by Trump.

“I’ve seen nothing in … the firing of [former FBI Director] James Comey and all of the aftermath that suggest the president has obstructed justice,” he told Fox News on February 28.

The president tweeted repeatedly over the weekend about the special counsel investigation, reflecting his deep frustration over the matter.

If Axios’s report is true, it would mean the president was aware during his tweeting that Mueller’s interest is on obstruction of justice, rather than any alleged collusion.

The president attacked Comey — who is set to launch a book tour next month.

“Andrew McCabe FIRED, a great day for the hard working men and women of the FBI — A great day for Democracy. Sanctimonious James Comey was his boss and made McCabe look like a choirboy. He knew all about the lies and corruption going on at the highest levels of the FBI!” he tweeted on Saturday.

Trump also reiterated that there was “no collusion.”

“As the House Intelligence Committee has concluded, there was no collusion between Russia and the Trump Campaign. As many are finding out, however, there was tremendous leaking, lying and corruption at the highest levels of the FBI, Justice & State. #DrainTheSwamp.”

He continued tweeting about the probe into Sunday: “The Mueller probe should never have been started in that there was no collusion and there was no crime. It was based on fraudulent activities and a Fake Dossier paid for by Crooked Hillary and the DNC, and improerly used in FISA COURT for surveillance of my campaign. WITCH HUNT!”

On Monday, the president continued: “A total WITCH HUNT with massive conflicts of interest!”

Despite his tweets, White House lawyer Ty Cobb said the president had no intention of firing Mueller.

“In response to media speculation and related questions being posed to the Administration, the White House yet again confirms that the President is not considering or discussing the firing of the Special Counsel, Robert Mueller,” he said in a statement.

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#1. To: All (#0)

Typical.

They know Trump did nothing wrong. Just looking for anything they can find to pin on him.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2018-03-20   13:52:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: no gnu taxes (#1) (Edited)

They know Trump did nothing wrong.

That's what you say. This investigation looks into all things; are you not familiar with these sorts of investigations?

Don't you want Trump vindicated?

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-20   13:59:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

Time to shut Mr. Magoo-Mueller down and start investigation HIS motivations.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2018-03-20   13:59:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: no gnu taxes (#1) (Edited)

Just looking for anything they can find to pin on him.

Yup, just a Witch Hunt Part 2. This will go on and on until 2020. This charade must stop NOW. Notice neither GOPe "leadership", Ryan and McConnell have lodged NO objection. AT ALL.

If there any "Obstruction" charge, it's Comey's pal, Mueller who's guilty. Tack on collusion, conspiracy, perjury, and sedition.

And who can we thank for this entire mess?: JEFF ("I-recuse-myself-for-no-reason") SESSIONS.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-20   14:02:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: buckeroo (#2)

Don't you want Trump vindicated?

From what exactly?

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-20   14:04:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Hank Rearden (#3)

Time to shut Mr. Magoo-Mueller down and start investigation HIS motivations.

Exactamundo.

That's one can o' worms that needs to be blown open.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-20   14:04:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Liberator (#5)

From the setup of of the DEM/REP political party that you vote for.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-20   14:05:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

Despite his tweets, White House lawyer Ty Cobb said the president had no intention of firing Mueller.

I can only speculate that Trump is holding aces up his sleeve and allowing Mueller etal to fall deeper into a giant political Venus Fly-Trap.

“As the House Intelligence Committee has concluded, there was no collusion between Russia and the Trump Campaign.

And should this be the End of Story?

Trump:... "As many are finding out, however, there was tremendous leaking, lying and corruption at the highest levels of the FBI, Justice & State. #DrainTheSwamp.”

THIS is exactly why Trump's tweets are crucial to getting the truth out. The Swamp-Owned reptilian MSM certainly isn't going to let any truth seep out if they can help it.

0bama had kindred racist Commie-Spirit Holder covering his tracks as AG; Trump chose badly with Jeff (#Swamp Monkey-Wrench) Sessions to grease his tracks.

Sessions must be removed YESTERDAY.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-20   14:13:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: buckeroo (#7)

From the setup of of the DEM/REP political party that you vote for.

Liberator has made it clear that he detested the Bushes. I have had words with him because I somewhat supported them.

Make sure you know what you are saying.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2018-03-20   14:15:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: buckeroo (#7)

You claimed some kind of "Vindication".

Can you clarify IT as well as the above? Have NO idea where you're going.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-20   14:15:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: no gnu taxes, Liberator (#9)

Liberator has made it clear that he detested the Bushes. I have had words with him because I somewhat supported them.

I don't need you stating some more BULLSHIT. The Bushes have little to do with this discussion.

Make sure you know what you are saying.

If I wrote a post, I am not just sure ... I am damned sure. I don't need your PHUCKIN' words of wisdom.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-20   14:18:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern ... ump-obstruction-not-collusion/

Axios reported Monday.

Breitbart and Axios?

You can't be serious about these two "sources"

Look up "Fake News" - you'll see both of these "sources" listed.....

DD just hired a whack-job CT attorney... why would he need another?

Fuck you Hondo. You are a piece of shit that told us to vote for faggot lover Gary johnson. You told us to vote for the open borders piece of shit Gary Johnson. You were also ok with supporting Johnson even though he was for abortion. Now you talk about taking up arms against the President. Fuck you asshole never come around here again. I hope they send you to gitmo.

Sincerely - aka stoned

Jameson  posted on  2018-03-20   14:21:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Liberator (#10)

It's an official US government investigation. When the investigation is over, Trump will be vindicated. This means that your worry about Trump being behind bars is over.

But the next investigation will about US Government conspiracy charges against MOLES.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-20   14:21:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: no gnu taxes, buckeroo (#9)

Liberator has made it clear that he detested the Bushes.

And so did Trump. The Bushes reciprocated their hatred of Trump. Do the math, Buck.

I have had words with him because I somewhat supported them.

That's ok. We all have "words" with each other; pretty boring otherwise.

The further one digs into the Bush Family, the filthier their family gets. How they've managed to put a pair of Presidents into the WH (and almost a third if NOT for Trump) proves there exists NWO string-pullers.

Poppy Bush's involvement in JFK demise (yes, HE was involved), his tight Saudi partnership, creating the whole Middle East-Iraq NWO-Elite war out of thin air and Occupation in 1991 after 8 straight years of peace under Reagan; Then there's Nazi-Symp Poppy's father's involvement as a middleman-merc for American industrialists-Nazi collaboration; Dubya's Admin's handling/creation of the 911 mess as he ushered in the Patriot Act, insisting "Islam = Religion of Peace"...AND let's never forget how his NWO cabal allowed the evil 0bama's Regime to heavily damage this nation, the middle class of America and the World.

The litany of Crimes committed by the Bush Family in the name of pure greed and power, on behalf of international globalism goes on and on. Then there's their warm and fuzzy relationship with "son"/brother" Bubba.

I hope you're reconsidered your past opinion. This is THE worst Crime Family in the history of the Republic, bar none. The Bushes have done nothing but sell out America to the highest bidder and helped destroy our sovereignty. WITH A SMILE (R).

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-20   14:40:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: buckeroo, no gnu taxes (#11)

The Bushes have little to do with this discussion.

Actually they DO. IF you're truly seeking the truth of the matter.

The Bushes are tied directly to the NWO-hired hands of The Swamp (who are running this charade/Witch Hunt in order to oust an Outsider: Donald Trump.)

Remember: It was Jeb Bush whose crown Trump "stole". THIS Witch Hunt has been ordered by the NWO Bush-Swamp minions.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-20   14:45:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Liberator (#14)

You so full of BULLSHIT, I worry about the fecal matter destroying your brain. Do you have health insurance? Perhaps, you can get a brain scan that may lead to your health recovery.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-20   14:51:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Jameson (#12)

Breitbart and Axios?

You can't be serious about these two "sources"

Are you completely insane?

Maybe in YOUR delusional liberal-Dem filtered fake-reality, the "truth" emanates from the bowels of HuffPo, Salon, WaPo, and Pop Sugar; But not to anyone seeking REAL facts and truth.

Look up "Fake News" - you'll see both of these "sources" listed.....

Bwaahaa!! That's rich. Liars who sanction FAKE "news" and lies masquerading as concerned "Truthers." It's Censorship, plain and simple. "Lokk it up" from from WHO again? SPLC? Prog, hard-left "arbiters"?? Chyeah, nice try.

Heck -- Free Republic made their list as well. ANY one who dares spill the truth -- that YOUR Leftist-Fascist Alinsky-ites are trying to control and manipulate THE message -- the message of propaganda and lies from the Left = Truth, and Anything Else (FOX/Brietbart/Axios) = Lies.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-20   14:55:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Liberator (#14)

This is THE worst Crime Family in the history of the Republic, bar none.

and yet another reason that the republicans must be punished.

While I don't believe the CT crap that you provide, I do agree that the Bush's have done a great deal of harm and should have never been allowed to be elected.

Fuck you Hondo. You are a piece of shit that told us to vote for faggot lover Gary johnson. You told us to vote for the open borders piece of shit Gary Johnson. You were also ok with supporting Johnson even though he was for abortion. Now you talk about taking up arms against the President. Fuck you asshole never come around here again. I hope they send you to gitmo.

Sincerely - aka stoned

Jameson  posted on  2018-03-20   14:58:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: buckeroo (#13)

It's an official US government investigation.

No it's not. It is 100% BS Witch Hunt. BASED ON A FAKE FISA WARRANT. Capisce?

When the investigation is over, Trump will be vindicated.

It was just completed. NO "Russia Collusion." But now their are trying to expand it based on NOTHING, NADA proof.

How would you feel in his shoes?

But the next investigation will about US Government conspiracy charges against MOLES.

THAT one is legit. And overdue.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-20   15:04:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Liberator (#17) (Edited)

the message of propaganda and lies from the Left = Truth

False!

There are many left-wing sources that are no more reliable than breitbart...

I usually disregard unless I can cite a reputable source.

Anything Else (FOX/Brietbart/Axios) = Lies.

fox is certainly willing and able to be the propaganda arm of the right wing, that was the stated purpose of Ailes.

and breitbart and axios are no more honest in their reporting that infowars or glen beck.

Fuck you Hondo. You are a piece of shit that told us to vote for faggot lover Gary johnson. You told us to vote for the open borders piece of shit Gary Johnson. You were also ok with supporting Johnson even though he was for abortion. Now you talk about taking up arms against the President. Fuck you asshole never come around here again. I hope they send you to gitmo.

Sincerely - aka stoned

Jameson  posted on  2018-03-20   15:07:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Jameson (#18)

and yet another reason [the Bushes] that the republicans must be punished.

If you had any grasp of America history, agenda of what has become a Dem Party morphed into a Commie Party; IF you knew the extent of collusion between the Party Bosses of both the Dems and GOP Senate and House, and those whom they REALLY work for and their agenda, your head would explode.

The elites COUNT on mentally lazy, logic-challenged people like you to believe everything they say. And I mean EVERYTHING is lapped up with a sponge. With NO questions asked. It's...amazing.

THAT message is drilled into your conscious and subconscious like a never-ending drum by the Media (who in case you haven't noticed have become a political message (Leftist at that) in "comedy" in "sports" in Entertainment."

Do you ever ask yourself "WHY"? "WHO"? "TO WHAT END"?

It is truly stunning to watch and listen to supposed intelligent people become so utterly devoid of objectivity, and deduction and analysis of logic and common sense. These people whose opinions and presentation of "truth" take you Lefties and Dems for un-thinking, bleating fools.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-20   15:15:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Hank Rearden (#3)

Time to shut Mr. Magoo-Mueller down and start investigation HIS motivations.

They can't/won't even investigate Hillary.

This whole (D)ramatic exercise is a sham.

VxH  posted on  2018-03-20   15:16:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: buckeroo (#16)

Do you have health insurance?

Would you like to admit "it" now?

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-20   15:17:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Liberator (#21)

ollusion between the Party Bosses of both the Dems and GOP Senate and House, and those whom they REALLY work for and their agenda, your head would explode.

Oligarchic Kleptocracy.

Weren't all those people supposed to be "OUT IN THE FIRST HOUR" - or some hyperbolic popularly poled BS like that?

VxH  posted on  2018-03-20   15:20:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Liberator (#15)

THIS Witch Hunt has been ordered by the NWO Bush-Swamp minions.

Pssst --- How many NEOcon minions of that heritage were in the White Kennel on day 1?

www.google.com/search?q=Trump+heritage+foundation

VxH  posted on  2018-03-20   15:24:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Liberator (#21)

If you had any grasp of America history, agenda of what has become a Dem Party morphed into a Commie Party; IF you knew the extent of collusion between the Party Bosses of both the Dems and GOP Senate and House, and those whom they REALLY work for and their agenda, your head would explode.

Oh please, spare me your conspiracy nonsense.

THAT message is drilled into your conscious and subconscious like a never- ending drum by the Media

This is complete bullshit, I reject your claim completely.

"...un-thinking, bleating fools..."

This describes you. This also describes the (declining in numbers) demographic of "true believers" who quote DD's tweets verbatim, in an attempt to convince themselves that 45 is the messiah of the secret society of REAL patriots and conservatives.

It's a crock, James.

Fuck you Hondo. You are a piece of shit that told us to vote for faggot lover Gary johnson. You told us to vote for the open borders piece of shit Gary Johnson. You were also ok with supporting Johnson even though he was for abortion. Now you talk about taking up arms against the President. Fuck you asshole never come around here again. I hope they send you to gitmo.

Sincerely - aka stoned

Jameson  posted on  2018-03-20   15:25:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Jameson (#20)

Breitbart isn't fake news. If so show it. Also if they try to impeach Trump over bullshit lies. He should play hardball and bring in the military to arrest Mueller. Then have him interrogated and find out who is behind his coup attempt. Yes it would be a constitutional crisis. But I would be all for it. Then he should bring in troops and start rounding up any democrat who opposes him. Appoint new senators and congressmen like Lincoln did.

Trump should go Lincoln on your piece of shit baby killing faction. It would be just.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-03-20   15:41:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A K A Stone (#27)

He should play hardball and bring in the military to arrest Mueller. Then have him interrogated and find out who is behind his coup attempt. Yes it would be a constitutional crisis. But I would be all for it. Then he should bring in troops and start rounding up any democrat who opposes him. Appoint new senators and congressmen like Lincoln did.

Trump should go Lincoln on your piece of shit baby killing faction. It would be just.

LOL!

I would sincerely worry about your sanity, if it weren't painfully obvious that you're just playing this up as a bit.

I'll admit, it IS funny

Fuck you Hondo. You are a piece of shit that told us to vote for faggot lover Gary johnson. You told us to vote for the open borders piece of shit Gary Johnson. You were also ok with supporting Johnson even though he was for abortion. Now you talk about taking up arms against the President. Fuck you asshole never come around here again. I hope they send you to gitmo.

Sincerely - aka stoned

Jameson  posted on  2018-03-20   16:02:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

Hey Mueller. When you were given this case, what crime were you investigating and what meager proof did you have? Or did you simply start investigating, thinking that you'd find something.

'Cause that what it looks like. First Russian hacking. Then Russian influence. Then Trump collusion. Now Trump is obstructing? What next, given that you're investigating Trump's businesses -- his papers are not in order?

misterwhite  posted on  2018-03-20   16:06:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Liberator (#14)

How they've managed to put a pair of Presidents into the WH (and almost a third if NOT for Trump) proves there exists NWO string-pullers.

I'm not so sure of that. I think that what it proves is that American partisans are tribal. Republicans vote for Republicans, and Democrats vote for Democrats, like herd animals.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-03-20   16:08:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: misterwhite (#29)

Hey Mueller. When you were given this case, what crime were you investigating and what meager proof did you have? Or did you simply start investigating, thinking that you'd find something.

'Cause that what it looks like. First Russian hacking. Then Russian influence. Then Trump collusion. Now Trump is obstructing? What next, given that you're investigating Trump's businesses -- his papers are not in order?

This is EXACTLY what Mueller is doing. Essentially, it's what was also done to Clinton. Appoint a special prosecutor to investigate Whitewater. Unable to prove anything decisive about that, look into Monica Lewinsky, and then get Clinton into a deposition and BAM perjury!

With Trump, it will be obstruction of justice, no matter what.

Trump should fire Mueller and end the nonsense.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-03-20   16:10:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: A K A Stone (#27)

Trump should go Lincoln on your piece of shit baby killing faction. It would be just.

It WOULD be just. No need to even use the army, though. Just fire Mueller and Goldstein, pardon Flynn and Manafort, and be done with it. And when the Democrats and Lady Lindsey scream, ignore them.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-03-20   16:14:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: VxH, Deckard, A K A Stone (#24)

Oligarchic Kleptocracy

Close, but no cigar.

It's a "Kleptocracy" of sorts, but it has its roots in those powers and who'd met at Jekyll Island way back when. Today's ideological descendants are now THE Puppetmeister Elites, supported by political and media enforcers, tools, whores, and puppets across the board. *NOTE: TRUMP WILL STILL NOT PLAY THEIR GAME.

I know and appreciate that you're searching for the truth(s)but keep on taking the wrong forks in the road. THIS video is informative, but not for the reasons you might think. It is DISINFO.

The Pink Fruitcake featured here as a boss of a company that buys privied personal info from social media platforms like Facebook, Youtube, G00gle and Yahoo is a Thief and Liar. A terrified liar. Who spooked him? And why??

As the pink-haired boss of "Cambridge Analytica" -- a company who entire business is based on receiving mined data from social media websites, analyzing and refining it, then selling it -- the "unintended consequence" here was that Donald Trump became President...because of THIS COMPANY.

Cupcake claims he was approached by Steve Bannon who was interested in the company's services and analyses.

The supposed mortal sin in this youtube interview is the supposed revelation that according to Cupcake his company and data they sold they sold to Bannon got the villainous Trump became President. And now the pink-haired owner of "Cambridge Analytica" regrets playing a part in "working for the alt-right."

This "interview" is more pure disinfo, propaganda and demonization of Donald Trump. Notice who was NOT demonized and cited for intellectual theft? The usual suspects: FB owner Mark Zuckerburg. Facebook, G00gle. Those who as a matter of policy harvest ALL user info.

The attempt to conflate Donald Trump with Facebook's policy of extreme violation of privacy as part of their User Agreement is lame disinfo.

It's a "Kleptocracy" alright. Of peoples' brains and ability to add 2+2.

NOTE NOTED: How now due to the Left's "algorithms" and monopoly social media ownership, they have been permitted to screen users and tag them as "fake news". ONLY conservatives and their posts, websites, youtube video are being targeted censored and culled.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-20   16:47:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Liberator (#33)

Trump used this company as a hedge in case the RNC didn't let him use their data. The RNC did let him so they didn't use the data from Analytical. And who cared if he did use it. Obama had Facebook's willing help.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-03-20   16:52:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: VxH (#24)

Weren't all those people supposed to be "OUT IN THE FIRST HOUR" - or some hyperbolic popularly poled BS like that?

What part of "The Swamp" or "Witch Hunt" or "Conspiracy" don't you understand??

Donald Trump was apparently assuming the US Gummint wasn't so corrupt and its level of honesty and patriotism so abysmally lacking. HE. CANNOT. DISINFECT. THE SWAMP BY HIMSELF.

The President isn't the only one shocked by the degree of obstruction and collusion by the Deep State, Leftist Feeb hierarcy, and its many co-conspirators. Even to the degree that Sessions, Ryan and McConnell may as well be Democrats. (are you really NOT seeing any of this??)

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-20   16:53:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: A K A Stone (#34)

Trump used this company as a hedge in case the RNC didn't let him use their data. The RNC did let him so they didn't use the data from Analytical. And who cared if he did use it. Obama had Facebook's willing help.

Good call. You are absolutely right.

When the RNC jammed him up he had to go independent.

Yes, 0bama has FB, G00gle, the entire social media -- as well as NSA and entire feral apparatus to back him up.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-20   16:55:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: VxH (#25)

Pssst --- How many NEOcon minions of that heritage were in the White Kennel on day 1?

You really don't get it. Wow.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-20   16:56:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Jameson (#26)

Oh please, spare me your conspiracy nonsense.

I commend you on your absolute obedience and loyalty. No matter HOW bad or obvious The Lie.

If you were told to retrieve a bone, would you use all fours?

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-20   16:58:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Jameson (#26)

45 is the messiah of the secret society of REAL patriots and conservatives.

Nope. Trump merely represents the ONLY one willing to have taken on the Elites and Swamp... and reject their constant lies and attempted murder of the US Constitution, Common Laws and Decency.

If that makes him a "Patriot" you would be right.

Try thinking for your self one day. And embracing logic and math. I dare ya.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-20   17:02:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: misterwhite (#29)

Hey Mueller. When you were given this case, what crime were you investigating and what meager proof did you have? Or did you simply start investigating, thinking that you'd find something.

'Cause that what it looks like.

Exactly. BAM!

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-20   17:02:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Vicomte13 (#30)

I think that what it proves is that American partisans are tribal. Republicans vote for Republicans, and Democrats vote for Democrats, like herd animals.

Well, we know that Americans ARE Tribal. But then all people are naturally drawn to their own kind instinctively.

With respect to a "NWO" or "string-pulling" PTB, the proof is over-whelming. It's strewn all over the internet like a blizzard.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-20   17:05:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Vicomte13, misterwhite (#31)

This is EXACTLY what Mueller is doing. Essentially, it's what was also done to Clinton. Appoint a special prosecutor to investigate Whitewater. Unable to prove anything decisive about that, look into Monica Lewinsky, and then get Clinton into a deposition and BAM perjury!

True in a sense. EXCEPT there was something "there" in the case of Clintoon.

Whitewater and that case of corruption should have been a slam-dunk conviction. Except for witness-tampering, obstruction of justice, pleas of the 5th, and...threats to witnesses.

Trump should fire Mueller and end the nonsense.

He should. This is groundless. But first he must present a case against Mueller for collusion and association with Comey, Hitlery, etal.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-20   17:10:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Liberator (#40)

Exactly. BAM!

Why are you so upset over Mueller now? It's been about a year and he knows it is time to wind the investigation down. Is he getting close to the truth?

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-20   17:14:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Liberator (#42)

True in a sense. EXCEPT there was something "there" in the case of Clintoon.

That is true of all men, and particularly all rich and powerful men, for "All have sinned" (St. Paul).

If they dig into Trump's business dealings long enough and hard enough, they will find tax accounting they will be able to label as fraudulent.

Likewise, if they characterize what Trump has done with regards to the Comey firing and the investigation, they can charge obstruction of justice. Impanel the right group of DC Democrat grand jurors and Trump will be indicted.

Then the Democrats, joined by Lady Lindsey and the rest of the Republican Establishment angry at Trump's ascendance, will impeach him. I doubt they will have the votes to remove him though.

Given that, Trump should just cut off the cancer and burn the stump. Fire Goldstein. Fire Mueller. Appoint special prosecutors to go after the Clintons and Obama and the DNC. Purge them before they purge you.

What will that mean for the mid-terms? The Democrats will probably win the mid-terms no matter what, and if they win the House, Trump will be impeached no matter what.

He should expect impeachment, but expect that the Dems will NOT win 67 votes in the Senate, which means he's not actually removable. And then he should destroy the Democrats through political prosecution, just like they are trying to destroy him.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-03-20   17:27:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: buckeroo (#43)

Is he getting close to the truth?

What is "truth"?

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-03-20   17:27:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: buckeroo (#43)

Why are you so upset over Mueller now?

Now? Try Always.

The guy is in eyeball deep in shenanigans. Tied directly to Team Hitlery.

"The truth"? Of that I hope he's exposed himself sufficiently.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-20   17:35:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Vicomte13, buckeroo (#45)

What is "truth"?

DITTO.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-20   17:36:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Vicomte13 (#44) (Edited)

Vic, what the Clintons did in the name of greed was far beyond mere "sin" during their time as Gov and Prez. Citing Paul in this case doesn't score you or the Clintons any points. The subject is justice. And righteous chastisement. The Clintons PLOTTED evil. Covered it up with multiple cases of murder. PROVEN.

It's not fair to conflate the "sins" of you, me, and Trump with...The Clintons.

Yes, Trump needs to fire a bunch of people a let the chip fall.

I also expect an eventual attempt at "Impeachment," only to create a social media circus and feeding frenzy as a desperate measure to stop him from winning in 2020.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-20   17:41:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Vicomte13 (#45)

What is "truth"?

Based on "objective evidence" and not your faith.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-20   17:43:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Liberator (#46)

Even if Mueller finds data, it still goes to the Congress for review. What do you have to fear?

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-20   17:45:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: buckeroo (#50)

Even if Mueller finds data, it still goes to the Congress for review.

But why FURTHER entertain another stunt, this kind of witch hunt based on nothing but political hijinx??

Mueller need only find "stolen" chew gum and the charge is "THEFT!!"

Sniff around and scrutinize 99% of the human population and one can be found "guilty" of something."

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-20   17:49:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: buckeroo, Vicomte13 (#49) (Edited)

Based on "objective evidence" and not your faith.

Stay on topic.

You brought up finding "the Truth."

Again, what "truth" is being sought by Mueller? Or by ANY one?

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-20   17:51:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: buckeroo (#50)

What do you have to fear?

The Dem's coup and CW.

Possible isn't it?

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-20   17:53:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Liberator (#52)

You are off topic, pal; you should join your FRiends on Free Republic to ensure the FRenzy you are driving towards. Anytime a special investigation team is brought on board it to determine FACTS based on objective evidence. Often, even a witness testimony is considered irrelevant if it can not be collaborated by other testimony or OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE.

You are so full of shit, your brain is infested with fecal matter and it spews out of your ears and onto the keyboard.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-20   18:13:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: buckeroo, no gnu taxes (#2)

Don't you want Trump vindicated?

Thats not the purpose of the investigation. Its about taking out those that oppose the power structure of the government.

The Russian crap is crap. What the Russians did would not change even the closes local race let a lone a national race. Russian just wanted to disrupt whomever won.

The powers that be have illegally hurt one person Michael G. Flynn by lying to everyone and causing Mr Flynn to go bankrupt which made him give up even when the investigated said he did not lie.

Justified  posted on  2018-03-20   18:17:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Justified (#55)

The powers that be have illegally hurt one person Michael G. Flynn by lying to everyone and causing Mr Flynn to go bankrupt which made him give up even when the investigated said he did not lie.

He lied to the VP and to Trump about his own lack of disclosures about foreign entanglements. Trump fired his ass as a result. It had nothing to do with Mueller's investigation.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-20   18:23:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: buckeroo (#56)

He lied to the VP and to Trump about his own lack of disclosures about foreign entanglements.

Actually the dnc hack investigator said they believed Flynn. So no he did not "lie" but they went a head and prosecuted him until he could not finacially defend himself. If the investigators and the judge(who all were DNC hacks) would have told Flynn's lawyer at the time he did not lie then the trial would have been over. But Muleface needed a conviction even if it was corrupted. The judge in the case was removed by a high judge and this wasn't the first time that judge was removed for playing politics. Did you ever see that part?

Justified  posted on  2018-03-20   18:29:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Vicomte13, y'all (#44)

Trump should just cut off the cancer and burn the stump. Fire Goldstein. Fire Mueller. Appoint special prosecutors to go after the Clintons and Obama and the DNC. Purge them before they purge you.

What will that mean for the mid-terms? The Democrats will probably win the mid-terms no matter what, and if they win the House, Trump will be impeached no matter what.

He should expect impeachment, but expect that the Dems will NOT win 67 votes in the Senate, which means he's not actually removable. And then he should destroy the Democrats through political prosecution, just like they are trying to destroy him.

Just As political entertainment, and because I'm too old to give a shit, it'd be fun to see all that happen..

But Trump trying to "destroy the Democrats through political prosecution", could lead to some sort of a civil war, and I was wouldn't wish that on anyone...

Would you??

tpaine  posted on  2018-03-20   18:31:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Justified (#57)

Trump FIRED his lying ass. That's enough disgrace Flynn requires for me.

There are three basic RULES in life: do not lie, cheat or steal. Flynn fuckedupped not just being a common citizen but as a high ranking officer of the US Government.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-20   18:35:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: buckeroo (#59)

Trump FIRED his lying ass.

Trumped fired him because he was told that he lied. Trump did not trust him at that point. He left Flynn to the wolves thinking he lied but didn't.

Personally I hope Flynn sues the shit out of Comey, Mueller and the judge. You have to disclose everything and they did not which is a no no.

Its time for Congress step in and demand evidence or shut the investigation down ie witch hunt to find crap on Trump so they can remove him. If they fail to stop Trump he will dismantle the socialist pigs ie crony capitalist in charge. I guess you want socialist pigs running the government like Obama and hillary?

Justified  posted on  2018-03-20   18:47:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Liberator (#48)

It's not fair to conflate the "sins" of you, me, and Trump with...The Clintons.

I doubt Jesus would agree with you on that.

In any case, it's certainly fair to conflate the Clintons with the Bushes. The problem is that only one side is willing to use force. Our side has to be willing to do so also.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-03-20   18:53:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: tpaine (#58)

But Trump trying to "destroy the Democrats through political prosecution", could lead to some sort of a civil war, and I was wouldn't wish that on anyone...

Would you??

If my side wins, sure.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-03-20   18:54:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Justified (#60)

hope, faith, believe ... blah, blah, blah

High ranking government OFFICIALS, not necessarily those little bullshit artists that land a job because they have a cheap degree from some institution, have a higher trust requirement by the publick.

Personally, I am happy that there is a special investigation. It should always be ongoing, continuously called GENERAL INVESTIGATION of all government employees; this includes CONGRESS, the FEDERAL COURTS and the ADMINISTRATION.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-20   18:56:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: buckeroo (#63)

Personally, I am happy that there is a special investigation. It should always be ongoing, continuously called GENERAL INVESTIGATION of all government employees; this includes CONGRESS, the FEDERAL COURTS and the ADMINISTRATION.

Why?

They only investigate those that rock the boat. Look at Clinton. She should be wearing orange. There was so much evidence against her that they could have convicted ten peons but nothing happen and it lasted about as long a fart. Trump did nothing and its lasted nearly a year with no end in sight and they have zero evidence of any wrong doing! Is this what you want? One sided investigation of those trying to do the right thing while corrupt people get the "we feel there was no intention to commit a crime, not guilty! Next!"

Justified  posted on  2018-03-20   19:16:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Justified (#64)

Look at Clinton. She should be wearing orange.

Trump dropped her as a don't care nobody.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-20   19:36:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: buckeroo, all (#65)

Look at Clinton. She should be wearing orange.

ITs the FBI that does this. Trump can no more prosecute someone that you or me. FBI said they did to bad we don't care and thats that. Sessions for some reason won't or can't and Trump can not fire Sessions without opening up another battle front against the rhinos. Trump has his hands full. He is problem the strongest willed person I know. There isn't one person that could deal with the onslaught from all sides and still survive let alone get something accomplices. Im sorry you do not see this. If you think someone can do better please tell us so I can back them!

Justified  posted on  2018-03-20   19:47:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Justified (#57)

Actually the dnc hack investigator said they believed Flynn. So no he did not "lie" but they went a head and prosecuted him until he could not finacially defend himself. If the investigators and the judge(who all were DNC hacks) would have told Flynn's lawyer at the time he did not lie then the trial would have been over. But Muleface needed a conviction even if it was corrupted. The judge in the case was removed by a high judge and this wasn't the first time that judge was removed for playing politics. Did you ever see that part?

Which is why Trump should pardon Flynn.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-03-20   19:51:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Vicomte13 (#67)

Which is why Trump should pardon Flynn.

I believe Flynn and his lawyer already trying to figure out next move to sue them and get his name back. Thats what I heard last. I can not remember if it was last week or the week before that they found out about the FBI and Judge lying to them by omission of facts. Im hoping Comey gets it along with the judge and for icing on the cake Mueller too.

Justified  posted on  2018-03-20   19:58:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Justified (#66)

There isn't one person that could deal with the onslaught from all sides and still survive let alone get something accomplices. Im sorry you do not see this. If you think someone can do better please tell us so I can back them!

I am the longest surviving member of the chit-chat channel LF; you can check the facts, yourself. In the last election, I tried to get my dead dawg Scruffy elected. Obviously, my posts were considered by the scoundrel masses to be ineffective and you prove the same.

Today, I stand on the channel as a champion! You fuckers get what you paid for. An arrogant BILLIONAIRE that doesn't bring respect to the office of POTUS.

buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-20   20:07:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Jameson (#28) (Edited)

LOL!

I would sincerely worry about your sanity, if it weren't painfully obvious that you're just playing this up as a bit.

I'll admit, it IS funny

Thanks for taking the time to post here. I don't know why but you don't offend me as much as most liberals do. Even though your positions are just as idiotic.

You add a different perspective to the forum.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-03-20   20:37:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Liberator (#14)

Any discussion of the Bushes is water under the bridge to me. I'm actually finding it a lot harder to defend them these days.

I was merely pointing out to buckster that your postings should make it clear that you are not some political party stooge as he suggested you were.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2018-03-20   20:51:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: A K A Stone (#70)

I don't know why but you don't offend me as much as most liberals do. Even though your positions are just as idiotic.

He's probably just a little more civil and more cogent than most.

But you're right; he's just as idiotic.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2018-03-20   20:55:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Liberator (#35) (Edited)

What part of "The Swamp" or "Witch Hunt" or "Conspiracy" don't you understand??

I understand...

"nah - we don't care now, right"
"grab em by the pussy"
"take the guns first and do due process later"

...are probably good indicators of the actual, adulterous, character of liberal BS artist behind the data point campaign facade.

VxH  posted on  2018-03-20   22:53:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: A K A Stone (#70)

Thanks for taking the time to post here. I don't know why but you don't offend me as much as most liberals do.

My pleasure.......

I'll do my best to offend you more, you deserve it!

Fuck you Hondo. You are a piece of shit that told us to vote for faggot lover Gary johnson. You told us to vote for the open borders piece of shit Gary Johnson. You were also ok with supporting Johnson even though he was for abortion. Now you talk about taking up arms against the President. Fuck you asshole never come around here again. I hope they send you to gitmo.

Sincerely - aka stoned

Jameson  posted on  2018-03-21   7:26:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: no gnu taxes (#71)

I was merely pointing out to buckster that your postings should make it clear that you are not some political party stooge as he suggested you were.

Thanks Gnu -- I appreciate honesty and candor.

Any discussion of the Bushes is water under the bridge to me. I'm actually finding it a lot harder to defend them these days.

Glad to hear it. On both counts.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-21   13:51:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Jameson, A K A Stone (#74)

I'll do my best to offend you more, you deserve it!

Stop being a hypocrite. And lose the offensive, disrespectful tagline. I guess trolling LF makes you a hero to your Prog fans?

Would you say it to Stone's face? Or if he were even 20 feet away?

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-21   13:55:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: VxH (#73)

What part of "The Swamp" or "Witch Hunt" or "Conspiracy" don't you understand??

I understand...

...the actual, adulterous, character of liberal BS artist behind the data point campaign facade [is Trump.]

Do you have a giant poster of Sgt. Schultz on your wall? Or Inspector Clouseau?

You are painfully oblivious to the ongoing games and agenda of "The Swamp" and "Witch Hunt".

Grasping any "understanding" of the ongoing Swampian conspiracy and collusion to obstruct justice seems to be an impossibility for you; OR reasons for Trump's inability to get to the bottom of the Swamp.

So... if seeking the Truth isn't actually your mission and goal, exactly what is??

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-21   14:05:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Vicomte13, Justified (#67)

The judge in the case was removed by a high judge and this wasn't the first time that judge was removed for playing politics.

Which is why Trump should pardon Flynn.

Or even better, indict and prosecute ALL the players in this charade. (WHY is Mueller avoiding this?? OH WAIT.)

Flynn was obviously railroaded and framed by ILLEGAL means. The PTB are trying to do the same of Donald Trump.

Mueller's Witch Hunt Part 2 can NOT be allowed to move further. DESPITE conspicuously timed support by Mitch McConnell and threats of "impeachment" by Lady Lindsey and Jeff Flake.

Anyone who disbelieves in the clear-cut case of corruption and collusion of the GOPe and RNC with Democrats in trying to launch their coup of America's duly elected President is painfully naive or stupid.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-21   14:13:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Liberator (#77)

"The Swamp" and "Witch Hunt".

Emperor Drumpf can't hide behind that mantra in his Social Media data-knitted underwear forever.

Sessions is HIS appointee.

"Nah, we don't care now, right?"

Shit or get off the pot.

VxH  posted on  2018-03-21   14:29:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: VxH (#79)

Who are you trying to convince of your delusion and oblivion?

Super-sized bold fonts don't make you any more informed of the truth and inability to understand what's going on.

Some folks just aren't critical thinkers. They are followers.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-21   14:37:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Liberator (#76)

Would you say it to Stone's face?

Of course, those were his words.

Offensive and disrespectful? talk to Stone about it.

And because he is such a funny guy, I already deleted his words, so fuck off.

Jameson  posted on  2018-03-21   16:12:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Jameson (#81)

People like hondopehead who imply a threat to kill Trump are not welcome here.

So yes he deserved those words.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-03-21   16:24:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: VxH (#79)

Shit or get off the pot.

As much as I don't like you, you do have a point. Trump is the President. Sessions is his servant. So is Rosenstein. So is Mueller (by and by). The President does not have to let these guys dither and destabilize his presidency.

Order Sessions to fire Rosenstein and Mueller. Sessions does it, or Trump fires Sessions and puts in there somebody who will do so. Then those guys are gone.

Do it now, before the mid-terms.

Now the GOP has two choices: back the President and ride out the storm, or attack him, and perhaps be swept away by it.

If the Democrats win the House, Trump will be impeached. So what. Impeached just means charged. Trump still has the power until he is REMOVED. That takes 67 votes in the Senate. They're not there.

So, Trump survives impeachment, the country is divided. Meanwhile, Trump's new Attorney General prosecutes Hillary, and Bill, and Comey, and Mueller, and Lady Lindsey, and puts out the truth about Obama.

The Left and the milquetoast Right go insane and do either one thing: mewl and puke and wet themselves and lose, or they riot and go into the streets and start a civil insurrection.

Then we have the right to shoot them, thereby changing the electoral balance of the United States for good, just like the Civil War did by physically eliminating so many pro-slavery Democrats.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-03-21   17:25:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: buckeroo (#69)

ried to get my dead dawg Scruffy elected.

So Hillary's nick name is Scruffy?

You either had 2nd worst candidate in American history or someone that will fight for you. He may not be everything you want but at least he will not be anywhere as bad as Hillary. In fact Trump has proven to be more conservative then the last 2 so called conservatives. He might even be better than President Reagan which is mindbogglingly! He is fighting all sides and actually winning! If you are not impressed you are to bent to like any candidate no matter who they are or what they claim to stand for.

Justified  posted on  2018-03-21   18:55:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Jameson (#81)

Would you say it to Stone's face?

Of course, those were his words.

YOU: "I'll do my best to offend you more, you deserve it!"

Offensive and disrespectful? talk to Stone about it.

No, I'm talking to YOU about it.

Because he is such a funny guy, I already deleted his words, so fuck off.

Using the vulgarities and obscenities of the LEFT in a personal attack. From the safety of a keyboard. Just like the feckless coward you are.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-22   14:22:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Liberator (#85)

No, I'm talking to YOU about it.

No, you're talking to yourself ass-bite.

Fuck off

Jameson  posted on  2018-03-22   14:28:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Liberator (#85)

Thanks for defending me liberator. It's ok though. Jameson is here to demonstrate the stupidity of liberals. He is doing a great job for us.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-03-22   14:35:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Vicomte13 (#83)

Now the GOP has two choices: back the President and ride out the storm, or attack him, and perhaps be swept away by it.

WHICH "GOP" are you referring to?

The one which has conspired WITH the Dems to attack him OR the one that backs him? Unfortunately, the one that attacks him has hijacked the Republican Party and become mere puppets of their Global-First masters.

Donald Trump's election has exposed GOPe's open, transparent treachery and unholy alliance with the Dem-Comunist Party. But to what end?

Have you noticed that the RNC gets to choose ONLY their puppets and finance ONLY their puppets? Have you also noticed that they also sabotage conservatives, aka non-GOPe candidates? McConnell's treachorous GOPe has also even supported DEMOCRATS against REPUBLICANS (if they don't support the Globalist agenda of McConnell-McCain wing.)

Vic -- GOPe "Leadership" has NEVER been concerned about losing. Surely you know that. As to your scenarios and speculation, they all make perfect sense. Any or all of it may be the case. The ONLY mission of the GOPe (aided obviously by the Dem-Communist Party) is REMOVE ANY CHANCE that Trump and any pro-Trump candidates take over leadership positions and transform the Republican Party. They are the equivalent of an enemy engaging in a Scorched Earth policy. Trump can ONLY navigate our nation OUT of its pro-One World Government projection WITH Republican votes. That is why they are helping the Dems in obstructing Trump's agenda.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-22   14:40:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: A K A Stone (#87)

Hey -- I know you don't need defending; But sometimes the fecklessness, lies and hypocrisy of Lefties needs to be exposed.

Jameson is here to demonstrate the stupidity of liberals. He is doing a great job for us.

This is true. I get it. But where *can't* we see or hear this kind of ignorance and insanity? This kind of cultist behavior is viral.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-22   14:45:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Jameson (#86) (Edited)

No, you're talking to yourself ass-bite.

Ha-ha!! Yeah, I remember a couple of my friends using that phrase. Back when we were 17 years old.

Fuck off

Bwaaahaa!!

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-22   14:46:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Liberator (#88)

WHICH "GOP" are you referring to?

The one which has conspired WITH the Dems to attack him OR the one that backs him? Unfortunately, the one that attacks him has hijacked the Republican Party and become mere puppets of their Global-First masters.

Donald Trump's election has exposed GOPe's open, transparent treachery and unholy alliance with the Dem-Comunist Party. But to what end?

Have you noticed that the RNC gets to choose ONLY their puppets and finance ONLY their puppets? Have you also noticed that they also sabotage conservatives, aka non-GOPe candidates? McConnell's treachorous GOPe has also even supported DEMOCRATS against REPUBLICANS (if they don't support the Globalist agenda of McConnell-McCain wing.)

Vic -- GOPe "Leadership" has NEVER been concerned about losing. Surely you know that. As to your scenarios and speculation, they all make perfect sense. Any or all of it may be the case. The ONLY mission of the GOPe (aided obviously by the Dem-Communist Party) is REMOVE ANY CHANCE that Trump and any pro-Trump candidates take over leadership positions and transform the Republican Party. They are the equivalent of an enemy engaging in a Scorched Earth policy. Trump can ONLY navigate our nation OUT of its pro-One World Government projection WITH Republican votes. That is why they are helping the Dems in obstructing Trump's agenda.

I can't argue with any of that.

The solution is for the conservatives to break off and form a Conservative Party, and not permit the GOPe politicians to enter it.

A Conservative Party that does not have the "Republican" name associated with it would bring in conservative Democrats who won't vote for a Republican because of history and the taint of that name to them, but who are disgusted with the Democrat Party also.

The GOPe would be left a dead rump, and the Conservative Party would grow to replace it. Conservatives would lose an election cycle or two due to the division of the Republican Party corpse, but as it stands conservatives have lost every election since 1932, when the ultimate outcomes of things are looked at, so really conservatives don't have much to lose in the long term by separating themselves from the Republican Party and the GOPe

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-03-22   15:56:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Vicomte13 (#91)

The solution is for the conservatives to break off and form a Conservative Party, and not permit the GOPe politicians to enter it....

The GOPe would be left a dead rump, and the Conservative Party would grow to replace it. Conservatives would lose an election cycle or two due to the division of the Republican Party corpse, but...

BUT in that political vacuum would be the corpse not only of the GOP but of the United States of America itself.

You're also presuming supposed the tatters of what's left of Conservatives would survive the coming fascist-Left tsunami. We will never survive our solution before the Left/NWO has their way with us in the very near future. Any such 'Conservative Party' will have to remain a fantasy or "What could have been."

We are just now seeing the agenda and collective might and weight pressing down on America's (and the West) throat.

The NWO-Left alliance cuts through the Elites, UN and International Banksters, Industrialists, through the Public Schools, Colleges, the MSM, TV, Entertainment outlets like Hollywood and Sports. This unholy alliance of GOPe, Democrat Party, Antifa, BLM, Islam, etal is forged in broad daylight before our very eyes.

I'd rather invest energy and concentrate on our Eternal Kingdom. Frankly, the "Last Days" seems to be just around the corner. This World was never intended to be paradise on earth.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-22   18:40:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Liberator (#92)

Well, when we get down to the brass tacks of what we should do, and what should be done, the coalition on the Right goes up in a puff of smoke. It is probably true that, like the Democrats, we cannot really articulate our objectives, because so many of our objectives are at cross-purposes to one another. So we, like the Dems, have to fake at a unity we don't really have. As long as ENOUGH of the constituencies on the right are reasonably happy and there's hope for most of the others, the coalition hangs together. Then the economy has to be doing ok for Independents to vote their pocketbooks and put the Right, or the Left, over the line.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-03-22   22:21:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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