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Title: US Boy Scouts revoke badges from Down's syndrome boy
Source: BBC
URL Source: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43469886
Published: Mar 20, 2018
Author: BBC
Post Date: 2018-03-20 09:57:14 by misterwhite
Keywords: None
Views: 3159
Comments: 24

A US father is suing after his son, who has Down's syndrome and autism, was prevented from participating in the Boy Scouts' highest programme.

The local Scout group had previously allowed 15-year-old Logan Blythe to perform modified tasks to gain badges, his father told the Salt Lake Tribune.

But the Boy Scouts of America say that Logan did not fulfil badge requirements and could not progress.

Logan's father, Chad Blythe, is suing the Scouts for a nominal $1.

Logan Blythe had been a Boy Scout for four years and achieved more than 20 badges when his local chapter, the Utah National Parks Council, approved his application to join the Alternative Eagle Scout Programme in November 2017.

The programme aims to accommodate young people with physical or mental disabilities by allowing them to carry out alternative tasks where they are unable to achieve the standard badge.

But the following day, the family received a text message saying that the national body of the Boys Scouts of America had decided that the allowances previously made for Logan's disabilities meant he did not fulfil the programme's criteria.

When the family enquired if there were alternatives to the Eagle programme, they were told that participants "must do the requirements as written, including leadership responsibilities", local station KSL-TV reported.

Logan's father, Chad Blythe, has said that the decision effectively voided all of his son's badges.

In a video uploaded to YouTube, Mr Blythe described the case as "the very definition of discrimination".

The Utah National Parks Council said that while they had supported Logan and his family, the decision belonged to the Boys Scouts of America's national body.

Mr Blythe told KSL-TV that he hoped the lawsuit against both the local and national Boy Scouts bodies would bring about change.

"I cannot support an organisation that does not support my son… or support anyone who doesn't support those with mental disabilities, it's wrong," he said.

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The local Scout group had previously allowed 15-year-old Logan Blythe to perform modified tasks to gain badges,

Correct. The local Scout group allowed him to modify the tasks to fit his abilities in order to qualify for local badges. Which is all well and good at the local level.

But now the father wants to use those badges as proof that his son qualifies to enter the National Eagle Scout program -- and now accuses the Boy Scouts of discrimination for rejecting his son.

The Boy Scouts are very clear on their requirements for an alternative merit badge if that badge is to be used as entry in to the Eagle Scout program -- the task must be pre-approved at the National level.

Guide to Advancement, topic 10.1.0.1–10.1.0.2)

1.Obtain a clear and concise statement related to the nature of the disability from a qualified health-care professional.
2.The unit leader meets with the candidate and his parent or guardian to determine the alternative merit badges to replace those impeding his progression.

3.The unit leader, parent or guardian, and the Scout (if possible) prepare supporting letters to accompany the application.

4.The district and council advancement committees, in turn, review the proposed alternative merit badges. They may choose to speak with the Scout, his parent or guardian, or unit leader. If the council advancement committee approves, then the candidate may start work on the merit badges.

Note: In approving the application, the district and council advancement committees must utilize the expertise of a health-care professional involved with youth who have disabilities.

5.Upon completion of the Eagle Scout rank requirements, using the alternative merit badges, the candidate appears before a board of review. This approved application must be attached to the Eagle Scout Rank Application.

6.Following a successful board of review, the council processes both applications and forwards them to the national Advancement Team.

misterwhite  posted on  2018-03-20   10:33:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: misterwhite (#3) (Edited)

I have mixed feelings on with the outcome should be. But I will say this. I think the Boy Scouts should try to help out people with disadvantages and accept them so they can be part of the community to maybe with some type of alternative badge

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-03-20   10:38:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone (#4)

I have mixed feelings on with the outcome should be.

I don't. The Boy Scouts should cease to exist. Once they went gung-ho on the gays, they ceased to be an organization that I support. They chose their side in the culture wars. They chose wrong. I no longer support the organization and would like to see it destroyed.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-03-20   11:01:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Vicomte13 (#7)

don't. The Boy Scouts should cease to exist. Once they went gung-ho on the gays, they ceased to be an organization that I support. They chose their side in the culture wars. They chose wrong. I no longer support the organization and would like to see it destroyed.

I guess this means you no longer support the Catholic Church,and want to see it destroyed?

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-20   11:15:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: sneakypete (#12)

I guess this means you no longer support the Catholic Church,and want to see it destroyed?

Catholic Church hasn't gone gay, hoss.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-03-20   11:27:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Vicomte13 (#14)

Catholic Church hasn't gone gay, hoss.

There have many homo scandals. There are also many catholic bishops claiming its virtues. The pope does nothing about it. So yes the Catholic Church does have a gay problem. There have been dozens or hundreds of catholic churches that have embraced homosexuality. Again without condemnation or any action taken by the Pope.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-03-20   11:34:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone (#15)

There have many homo scandals. There are also many catholic bishops claiming its virtues. The pope does nothing about it.

NO Pope has ever done anything about it but join in.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-20   14:51:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: sneakypete (#17)

That's not true! John Paul II did quite a bit, but by the time the scandal broke and he was confronted with the magnitude of the problem, he was a very old man bent over with illness. He lacked the vigor to fight the evil elements alone, and he had too few allies willing to help. To say that no Pope did anything but join in is a calumny against a good man. He certainly did not join in! And he certainly did what he could, but he died before he could win, and he had too few allies.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-03-20   16:43:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Vicomte13 (#19) (Edited)

That's not true! John Paul II did quite a bit, but by the time the scandal broke and he was confronted with the magnitude of the problem, he was a very old man bent over with illness. He lacked the vigor to fight the evil elements alone, and he had too few allies willing to help.

IOW,he didn't do squat and you are making excuses for him.

You come much closer to the truth when you say he had few allies. He had few allies because so many priests are horndogs and/or child rapists,and the Church can't afford to dump them because they have nobody to replace them. The Church itself might be in financial trouble if they were to lose all those revenue sources.

I have to cut you some slack on this,though. You were indoctrinated/brainwashed into this cult when you were a child,and it's almost impossible for most people to completely rid themselves of their childhood programming. You are going to defend the priests because you see this as defending the Holy Mother Church.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-20   19:18:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: sneakypete (#22)

He did more than squat. Example: I have long sung in the choir. One of the things that JPII instituted was a real check of the church staff, clergy and laypeople, even volunteers. If you wanted to be in one of the ministries that had anything to do with children, you had to go through a police background check.

Also, JPII ordered the records combed, and had priests who had molested people forced into retirement.

But as I said before, he was a very old and sick man, and it was his rage at these crimes that pushed things as far as they did go. He needed allies: Cardinals, Bishops, Priests - to back him up and carry forward the reforms, and they didn't. They did what he ordered, but his range of vision was only what was put before him, and he was bent double with Parkinsons and mostly blind, so his actual ability to function was limited to a few hours a day.

He did more than squat, but the institution was much bigger and stronger than him.

The Church needs to change the celibacy rule and bring married priests back into the ranks, where they have been absent since the 1000s. Yes, problems come with that, but the current celibacy rule long outlived its usefulness, and now it hangs like an albatross around our necks. We don't have enough priests to serve, parishes are closed. Young, vibrant priests with families could effect a revival. But conservatism is a tough thing to move aside.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-03-20   19:50:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Vicomte13 (#23)

He did more than squat, but the institution was much bigger and stronger than him.

The institution is bigger and stronger than any of us. That's why people create institutions.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-20   20:52:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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