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Title: The End of the world as we know it
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Revelation: A Historicist View
URL Source: http://barrymidyet.com
Published: Mar 18, 2018
Author: Barry Midyet
Post Date: 2018-03-18 09:01:35 by interpreter
Keywords: The End, 2018
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I've heard a lot of people say the end of the world is coming. And they are absolutely correct. 2018 is (or will be) the end of the world as we know it. From my book: Last Page Yearly Supplement 2018 in Bible Prophecy As I always do, I must add my standard qualifier here but with three words added this time: These predictions are based on the Bible, and thus cannot fail to come true— But I may be ahead of God’s (and/or Trump’s) timetable by a year or two. 1. The first of the last plagues – skin cancer – will begin to abet But the others – especially global warming – will continue for a while yet 2. Trump together with some NATO nations and Russia, et al, will also take out Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi— The demon-possessed king in Raqqa (or wherever he is trying to hide from Trump & company). 3. Trump & company will also take out Kim Jong-Un, the evil little whore in Pyongyang. (See commentary on Revelation 17 for more on little whores of the atheist kind). 4. Trump will no doubt also have to take out the evil Ayatollah Khomeini, the de facto king in Tehran, Because Tehran is very accurately pointed to and bisected by the Jerusalem- to-the-dry-Euphrates direction. 5. Trump will also have to take out Mawlawi Haibatah Akhundzada, the evil king of the Taliban in Afghanistan. He has already taken out many fighters there with one drop of the exceedingly great “Mother Of All Bombs” which gives Trump the upper hand. 6. The Good News is, that’s it. When all of Satan’s forces are killed off (as we are commanded to do in Luke 19:27), The long-awaited “Heaven on Earth” will commence, and the 24 Christian nations in NATO will rule the Earth unhindered by Satan for a millennium. Your kingdom come, your will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven, Amen! Barry Midyet
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Fallible and uninspired NO SALE.
So Men will rule the Earth, and better yet NATO?
THIS IS A TAG LINE...Exercising rights is only radical to two people, Tyrants and Slaves. Which are YOU? Our ignorance has driven us into slavery and we do not recognize it.
NATO, global warming, and Trump. No Jeb!? Yeah right. /s Of course. God always works through men. In the Old Testament it was Isreal. And now it is through Christian nations. (The God of the OT is the God of the NT)
Yeah right. /s There is no longer any need for another Bush. Now we have Trump, the latest Episcopalian to rule the US (and/or the world). Everything is back to normal and fine now.
Trump is Presbyterian. He thinks it's the greatest. He does attend X-mas services at the local Episcopal church near Mar-a-lago though.
Does this mean the IRS won't kick my ass anymore?
The fake episcopalian Trump did grant a pardon to that meat-packer who had 400 illegal aliens working for him, so there might be a chance for you too? It is hard to believe Trump is Christian, he certainly missed the Jesus message
Is is true that Trump used to be a Presbyterian. Now he is a member of Mar-a- Lago's Episcopal Church, and attends pretty much every Sunday with his wife and kid. Its where they got married, and where their child (Barry) was Baptized.
Well, he's not perfect. Only Jesus was/is perfect
Don't give me platitudes, we each have a moral responsibility
Not sure what you mean by that. Trump has a moral responsibilty to defend our nation from terrorists, etc. Back in the day, that was the only responsibilty of the king, and I for one think we should go back to that concept and let the Churches take care of needy like God intended.
Are you sure? I recall him specifically bragging about being a Presbyterian and poking fun at other (lesser) Prot types. Like Ben Carson's Seventh Day Advent beliefs which he was trying to make fun of but didn't know anything about to begin with. "I love Iowa. And, look, I don't have to say it, I'm Presbyterian. Can you believe it? Nobody believes I'm Presbyterian. I'm Presbyterian. I'm Presbyterian. I'm Presbyterian," he told a packed house in Florida. "Boy, that's down the middle of the road folks, in all fairness. I mean, Seventh Day Adventist, I don't know about. I just don't know about." Trump's parents were lifelong Presbyterians and they attended that Presby church in NYC where Norman Vincent Peale preached for 50+ years. He wrote that book "The Power Of Positive Thinking". So I think that those kinds of doctrine-free sermons is what Trump thinks Christianity actually is. A lot of Peale's critics would point to Trump as the perfect example of what his kind of "preaching" produces in terms of doctrinal Presbyterianism. This also explains why Trump readily admitted he has never asked God for forgiveness of any sins ever. He really likes the little wine and the little cracker though. During Saturday’s Q&A Trump was asked whether he has ever asked God for forgiveness. CNN reports that Trump answered, “I am not sure I have. I just go on and try to do a better job from there. I don’t think so,” he said. “I think if I do something wrong, I think, I just try and make it right. I don’t bring God into that picture. I don’t.” For the evangelical, there is no Christian faith without the understanding that in Jesus Christ God took the sins of humanity upon himself, creating the possibility of an individual’s salvation—which includes asking God to exchange the sinner’s sinfulness with Jesus’ perfect righteousness. Theologically orthodox Presbyterians, for whom the marks of the true church include the “right administration of the Lord’s supper,” are going to gag on Trump’s trivialization of the sacrament of communion. Although Trump admitted having not asked God for forgiveness, he said he does participate in Holy Communion. “When I drink my little wine—which is about the only wine I drink—and have my little cracker, I guess that is a form of asking for forgiveness, and I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed.” For Christians, including every brand of Presbyterian, the wine to which Trump so casually refers is understood to be representative of the blood of Jesus Christ. And that “little cracker” is the body of the Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. You'd think someone would have explained the fundamentals of orthodox Christian doctrine to Trump (and they probably have more than once). But he just doesn't care. OTOH, Trump didn't try to lie to us about what kind of "Christian" he is. And people knew this well before they voted for him, as early as the Iowa caucus when there was plenty of time to unite behind other candidates. But Trump still won it. The media thinks the Christian Right bought into it. I think the Right decided that all the Bible-toting pols they've voted for before didn't get anything done and they trusted that Trump would pander shamelessly to them because he wants power and to have his (gilded) name engraved in history books, all real classy stuff.
Huh? That booger died a couple of decades ago. My favorite part of his funeral was when his pallbearers stumbled and dumped him out on the ground. Damn shame a dog didn't run up and take a dump on his face. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Melania is Catholic. I think Trump moved Episcopalian to come as close as possible while staying Protestant.
While he was campaigning, Trump was a Presbyterian, but not anymore. Like pretty much every president we have had lately, the president at some point left his Church and joined his wife's (like both Jeb and George W and now Trump. Heck I am pretty much exactly the same way. Including my wife (ex- wife) the Church I ended up going to was always the Church my significant other belonged to. When I think about it, we men need to have more backbone (or balls) but who am I to talk.
Wash your mouth out with soap. Melania has never been a Catholic or even attended a Catholic Church in her life as far as I know. Her dad would not permit it or even let her attend an Eastern Orthodox Church because he was an atheist from hell. The first time she attended Church was in America, and she chose the Episcopal Church, and has been there ever since.
That is probably the dumbest and completely untrue post I've heard yet (if that were possible). In case you dont know it, when one Ayatolla dies, another one replaces him within a couple days.
Melania Trump was baptized Catholic in her native Slovenia by her mother and the parish priest in her hometown, in 1970. When she visited the Pope, she brought her own personal rosary for him to bless it. Melania Trump is Catholic Having emigrated to the US and married a Presbyterian husband, it is entirely possible that he moved to the Episcopalians and she did also, so they would be on as common ground as possible. But Melania was Catholic - born and baptized (though probably not much churched, in the Communist Yugoslavia of her youth).
Iran is just making it up as they go. The original Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini died in 1989 and was replaced by the Ayatollah Ali Khamenei (after a funeral that rivalled Mussolini's for sheer spectacle). No blood relation. Khamenei has been in power ever since as the Supreme Leader of Iran, kind of a theocratic dicatator-for-life that relies for his power on the morality police and Iran's Republican Guard. I bet Trump would just love to have a title like Supreme Leader. It would fit him. We really should find a flashy uniform for Trump to wear on ceremonial occasions. He would eat that stuff up.
Having emigrated to the US and married a Presbyterian husband, it is entirely possible that he moved to the Episcopalians and she did also, so they would be on as common ground as possible. But Melania was Catholic - born and baptized (though probably not much churched, in the Communist Yugoslavia of her youth). Like I already told you, Melania was not allowed to even attend the Catholic Church, much less be baptized. Her dad was a very high-ranking atheist (Communist) official who's job it was to put people to death for attending the Ronan Catholic Church. He probably would have killed even his own daughter if she would have done what you so ridiculously claim.
Isn't that exactly what I just said?? You just like to argue all the time even when we agree and are saying the exact same thing.
You are delusional. Russian Orthodox Priest was a KGB career field. The commies LOVED for people to go to church to confess. Stalin went to Divinity School before going into politics. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Speaking of dumb,you wrote "the Ayatollah Khomeini. Khomeini is DEAD,DOOD! In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
My claim is true: Melania Trump was baptized a Catholic, as a baby, by her mother in Slovenia. That's simply a fact of history, duly recorded in the baptismal records. She had her rosary blessed by the Pope when she visited. Why are you insulting me over historical fact. So her dad was a Communist atheist. Mine was an atheist with Communist leanings in his youth. But my mom was Catholic, so I was baptized Catholic. Just like Melania. Women are bitchy and difficult and force men into all sorts of compromises they don't want to do on principle - and if the men won't yield, women will go ahead and do what they want anyway. Whether her dad agreed or not, Melania's mom baptized her. and Melania is Catholic. I wasn't churched as a kid either. Doesn't mean I wasn't, or am not, Catholic. The Episcopalians are probably the common ground that Donald and Melania found regarding religion. There is no need to insult me over simple historical fact.
This is a fabrication. Catholicism was legal in Communist Yugoslavia, and the people practiced it. They were not hounded down and put to death for it. The Church was forbidden participation in politics (which it resisted, subtly), but the Catholic Churches were not shut down, were not illegal, and people continued to be baptized in them, married in them, had funerals in them, etc. And in Serbia, the same was true of the Orthodox church. Melania's father may have been an atheist Communist fanatic, but he was not charged with huntind down and killing Catholics who went to Church, because Tito's Yugoslavia didn't do that. And his wife, Melania's mother, was Catholic, and had Melania baptized - whether the father knew that or not, who can say? These things are history. Let's not make up crazy things that didn't happen.
Secret Catholic handshake, caught on camera. After Melania Trump met with Pope Francis in the Vatican Wednesday, her spokeswoman confirmed that the First Lady is indeed a Roman Catholic, the first to occupy her post since Jackie Kennedy. The last time the United States had a Catholic as First Lady was during the presidency of John F. Kennedy, whose wife Jackie Kennedy—like him—was a Roman Catholic. When Melania moves into the White House together with their son Barron this summer, she will become the first Catholic occupant of the White House since the Kennedy era. On meeting the Pope Wednesday, Melania asked him to bless her rosary and later visited the Bambin Gesù (Baby Jesus) pediatric hospital, where she met with young patients and their families, prayed in a chapel and laid flowers at the feet of a statue of the Virgin Mary. Later that day, the First Lady’s spokeswoman Stephanie Grisham confirmed to DailMail.com that Melania is a practicing Catholic. I dont know about the rest of Yugoslavia, but in Slovenia the Roman Catholics were severely persecuted (by Melania's father).
Then the spokesperson either told a bald-faced lie or made up some fake news to make Melania sound more appealing to the Pope and the Roman Catholics. Melania is not, and never has been a Roman Catholic.
Actually Melania is a Catholic, but an Anglo-Catholic, not Roman-Catholic. All Episcopalians consider themselves to be a member of the Catholic Church. In that sense the spokeswoman is right. I miss-spoke when I suggested the spokesperson told a bold-face lie. He was telling the truth. Melania is indeed a practicing Catholic (of the Anglican variety).
I didn't know there were two kinds of Catholics. Well they aren't really Catholics but Anglicans. Apparently they were "Catholic", but when the Roman Catholic variety drifted from scripture by appointing a "pope" ruler over the churches and calling him holy father the Anglicans chose to follow God instead of the pope man. That would mean that the Roman Catholic s are imposters, and if there was a church founded but Peter it would be the Anglicans and not the blasphemous Roman Catholics.
The above comment is for you too Vic. It should make for some interesting threads in the future. Should you decide to participate.
In that case it was probably like you (or someone) suggested. Her Mom snuck her into the Church when dad wasn't looking, And I am pretty sure that Melania does not remember what happened when she was a baby so its a moot point.
A. Who cares B. She'll have the money to "buy" an annulment before the trial, just like shit-head jr.'s wife Fuck you Hondo. You are a piece of shit that told us to vote for faggot lover Gary johnson. You told us to vote for the open borders piece of shit Gary Johnson. You were also ok with supporting Johnson even though he was for abortion. Now you talk about taking up arms against the President. Fuck you asshole never come around here again. I hope they send you to gitmo.
According to your beliefs which are probably the Catholic churches beliefs. What is the point in getting baptized as a baby? Does it make them Catholic? If so are they still Catholic if they decide to become Baptists later in life? Honestly baby baptizing isn't scriptural is it? Shouldn't people come to a decision about it on their own and choose to do it? Because baptizing babies honestly sounds kind of unbiblical idoltry type behavior. Idoltry probably isn't the right word.
You are really hostile to a president who is doing great things. Could you give me your top 3 to five things that make you feel that way. You can leave his appointing pro life judges off your list, I already know that one about you.
That is pretty much the way I see it too, except I am not quite as hard on the Roman Church as you are. BTW, Peter founded the Jerusalem and Antioch Churches (and quite possibly the Anglican and Alexandrian Churches) long before he made it to Rome and started a fifth Church.
I have no doubt that Catholics, who, as in Poland, used the Church as a mask behind which they communicated and organized political dissent, and protected dissenters, were persecuted by Tito’s regime. But Catholics were not hunted down and killed for going to Church, the Churches were not closed. Nor were they co-opted into the government. They were similar to what they were in Castro’s Cuba or Communist Poland or 18th Century British-occupied Ireland: a closely - watched, officially suspect, Ill-treated but legal institution. To be Catholic was to be distrusted and barred from government power. But itdidn’t Mean getting slaughtered. It did in 17th Century Ireland, at the hands of Cromwell and the English, but in the end Cromwell lost. The English were unable to destroy Catholicism in Ireland, and were not able to crush out the Church. Tito did not go the route of extermination in Yugoslavia, just as Castro didn’t try to exterminate the Church in Cuba. Persecuted? Yes. Massacred? No.
Yes she is. The evidence is obvious. I'm now a Trump fan.
Don't forget Lutherans - "More catholic than Catholic". And when one farts all the angels dance in Hea... {err} hmm, no wait. That's not how that goes.
Well, Jesus didn't pay the woman at the well $130000 to keep quiet about his alleged adultery and then forget to sign the binding agreement either. Just my opinion - But I'd expect someone who'd undergone an honest conversion would just say, "hey that was the old Adam... I'm not him anymore" - instead of trying to cover it up. So, I'm skeptical that his behavior indicates that his religious epiphany is anything more than a political convenience.
Keep doing good job in trying to deprogram those guys. They are brainwashed by the dark forces, lying along the mental road, in a need of a good Samaritan.
And you know this because...? You don't know this. She was baptized as a baby, which makes her Catholic until she does something about it. She never did anything about it, practices the religion as an adult, including taking that Marian rosary to the Pope to have it blessed when she met him. That Melania is a Catholic doesn't fit one of your narratives, one of the stories by which you shape your view of the world, so you deny it loudly, but without any basis. That doesn't change anything.
There are 23 different kinds of Catholics. What distinguishes them from the other forms of Christianity )Orthodox and Protestant) is that all 23 Catholic Churches and their members consider the Pope to be the head of the Church on earth. The largest of the Catholic Churches, comprising about 90% of Catholics, is the Roman Catholic Church, also known as the Latin Rite. Other Catholic Churches include the Byzantine Catholic Church, the Melkites, the (Eastern and Western Syrian Rites, i(Which include the Syro-Malabar Catholic Church, the Chaldean Catholic Church, etc.), the Copts, the Ruthenians, the Armenian Rite, the Maronites, etc. Now there is an Anglican Use in the Latin Church, which is moving towards an Anglican Rite. The Anglican Church itself has a simple and well-known history. The English were all Catholic until the age of Martin Luther. England remained Catholic and did not go Lutheran, but then the English King, Henry VIII, wanted a divorce. The Catholic Church forbade divorce. She he broke with the Pope and made himself the head of the Church in England. He did not, however, go Protestant. He declared himself the head of the English Church, but blocked the Reformation from proceeding further in England. It proceeded further anyway, within the Anglican Church, and that division accelerated as Henry aged. By the time of his daughter Elizabeth, the Anglican Church had become a Protestant Church, but maintained the episcopacy (the Bishops), the priesthood, and many of the sacraments of Catholicism, but it severely persecuted its rival, Catholicism, within England. Eventually the English Church went full Calvinist Puritan during Cromwell's reign after the English Civil War, but puritanism did not ride well with the English people, many of whom became recusants and privately practiced Catholicism. When Cromwell died, the English invited the Stuarts back to be King, and Charles II, who had been raised at the Catholic Court of Louis XIV during the Cromwell dictatorship, came back to England and took the Church of England back towards a very Catholic-looking and sounding religion. With no heirs, the political classes of England tolerated a Catholic king, and probably would have tolerated his brother, James II, who was a much more vocal Catholic. But then James' wife conceived a child, and suddenly the English throne looked to be populated by a Catholic heir. The Glorious Revolution of 1688 ended that. But as time drifted forward into the 19th and 20th Centuries, and England found itself allied with Catholic powers (Spain, then France), and reconciled itself to religious tolerance, the outright Catholic population has steadily grown, and the Anglican Church has tried to find a middle way - maintaining a very catholic looking and feeling "High Church", and a protestant looking "low church". With the ordination of women and open homosexuals as bishops and priests, conservative Anglicans have increasingly found themselves unwelcome in their own church and have "swum the Tiber" in large numbers. This, in turn, led the Popes, particularly Pope Benedict, to create an "Anglican Use" within the Catholic Church, that uses a slightly modified Book of Common Prayer, and admits married Anglican priests as married Catholic priests. Of course the Protestant Anglicans view this as poaching, and many Protestant Anglicans call themselves "Anglo-Catholics" because the Anglican service is essentially an old mass. But this is their own name for themselves. Actually Anglican Use Catholics are Catholic: they are in unity with Rome. If you're not in unity with Rome, you're not Catholic, though you may be Orthodox. The Anglo-Catholic Anglicans are not Catholic, because they are not in union with the Pope, and they are not Orthodox, because they have abandoned several of the Sacraments, notably Confession. It looks Catholic, it calls its priests "father", it sounds Catholic, it likes to style itself Catholic, but it isn't Catholic - and it's dying out due to liberal politics. Conservatives swim the Tiber, and Pope Benedict XVI basically built them a bridge so they can walk right in without getting their feet wet. The bitterness between the Irish and the English over the centuries was primarily caused by the fact that the Irish refused to stop being Catholics, and the English tried to violently suppress Irish Catholicism. They failed quite miserably: the Irisih rejected the English Church and stuck with Rome, and the violence the English used to try to crush out Catholicism only made the Irish irreconcilable to England, and caused them to be the first out of the Empire.
Honestly baby baptizing isn't scriptural is it? Shouldn't people come to a decision about it on their own and choose to do it? Because baptizing babies honestly sounds kind of unbiblical idoltry type behavior. Idoltry probably isn't the right word. Well your post wasn't to me, and I dont know what Vic believes, but I can tell you what I believe. I could probably write a whole book on this subject, but let me sum it up by saying I am an Anabaptist. Notice that I said Ana- Baptist and not Southern Baptist. An Anabaptist is an Anglican (or Episcopalian) who believes that its perfectly alright to Baptize babies. (The Book of Acts says, following the Pentecost the disciples baptized whole families). But Anabaptists believe that a baby should be re-baptized when they reach the age of accountability. (Generally, for most kids (and most Churches), anywhere between 12 and 14). I did not grow up in the Episcopal Church, but I was baptized in the Nazarene Church (a branch of the Methodist Church) at age 14. Later, in my 60's, I was rebaptized in an Episcopal Church by a bishop descended from ST. Peter and with the water he used (from the Jordan River). It doesn't hurt to be baptized twice (better to be on the safe side).
Wow, we must have posted at the same time. Anyhow, we now also know what Vic believes. Anyone else want to chime in on the subject of Baptism?
I didn't read your entire comment yet but let me start here. I read that the Anglicans split from the Catholic Church because the pope. I admit it was a brief reading that I did to come to that conclusion.
I skimmed your comment a bit and I now see you say Anglicans aren't Catholic.
Well, that's a pretty long post, and I will have to say I agree with most of it, but not all. First, while are no longer in communion with the Roman Church, we are now in the (long) process of coming back together in full communion with the Orthodox Church(es). About 20 years ago, the Archbishop of Canterbury for the first time in history, gave permission for Anglicans to say the Nicene Creed either the western (Roman) way or eastern (Orthodox) way which was the first step, and allowed Canterbury to enter talks with the head honcho of the Orthodox Church (in Constantinople). And every year since then they have been meeting and we (the Anglican Churches) are now close (very close) to being in full communion with the six Orthodox Churches (as prophesied in the Bible). When that happens, and the western lampstand is restored -- but in Canterbury, and likely not Rome (as long as the present Pope is in power) -- the seven golden lampstands of the Church will again rule the Earth together united as one as at first -- and this time for a thousand years. Actually it will be 24 nations descended from the seven golden lampstands (or 8 lampstands if you include both Canterbury AND Rome). As for the conflict between the Irish Catholics and the Anglicans, well that is a very long conflict that goes back about a thousand years, and you have over-simplified it and have over-slanted it towards the Irish (or Roman Catholic) side. They were the blood thirsty ones who when they were in power (as with Bloody Mary) slaughtered all the Anglican priests and bishops who refused to say the Mass (or (Eucharist) the Roman way. The two versions are identical except for the placement of one word. Where the Irish Catholics say "the blessed ever-virgin Mary", we say the ever-blessed Virgin Mary. That's the only difference. They worship Mary. We worship Jesus. Not sure what any of that has to do with baptism though which (I think) is what Stone was asking about.
Actually, the Anglican Church/ England was never under the jurisdiction of Rome except whenever Rome sent someone to conquer England and force them to come under the jurisdiction of Rome (beginning with the Norman kings, and continuing off and on for about 1600 years and it got very bad, awful bloody at times. All (or mostly) because we refuse to say Mary was forever a virgin which we Anglicans consider to be a heresy. The fact that we are also a little bit more lenient when it comes to granting a divorce has also entered into it if you are talking about Henry the 8th. But that is only one king out of many dozens who broke with Rome.
If that was the case it would have sucked to be Joseph. I don't think Mary was a bitch that would do that to her husband.
Honestly baby baptizing isn't scriptural is it? Shouldn't people come to a decision about it on their own and choose to do it? Because baptizing babies honestly sounds kind of unbiblical idoltry type behavior. Idoltry probably isn't the right word. I'll answer. There's formal Catholic doctrine, and there's private belief. Formal Catholic doctrine is that the sacrament of Baptism was instituted by God, and that in the regular order of things it is necessary, though the Church recognizes that under certain circumstances, men who earnestly yearn for baptism but cannot obtain the actual rite, that their desire to be baptized suffices with God. Once you are baptized, you are a member of the Church, in parallel to the way that circumcision made a boy a Jew. What, exactly, baptism DOES is similar to the case of circumcision: God said to DO IT, he didn't explain exactly WHY or WHAT it does. Catholic theologians have pondered that for nearly 2000 years, and the view of St. Augustine is the prevailing one that is officially taught: Baptism washes away sin including, in particular, the original sin we inherit from Adam, that dooms us to spiritual death. Thus, the Church teaches, or at any rate taught in the past, that baptizing infants as early as possible is imperative lest they die unbaptized. Catholics are taught that in an emergency any baptizes person can baptize another, so nurses of babies born on the verge of death have been known to wipe water on the forehead of the dying newborn and quietly say "I baptize you in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit", to remove the risk of dying unbaptized from that little soul. Now, that's the "official" Church teaching. I personally think that most of that is right, though Augustine's "originial sin" reasoning doesn't appeal to me much, because it doesn't seem to be based on anything. What I personally think is that baptism places the seal of God of a child, and that this protects infants and young children from demonic possession. God seals his own little ones. The thing you say about making a choice, that is Confirmation. It is the parents who bring the child into the world, and the parents who circumcise the Jewish boys, bringing them into the tribe, or who minister to their own child by having him baptized, putting the seal of grace on him or her, promising to raise the child in the Faith. Then, when the child has grown, the child chooses of his own volition whether or not to celebrate his own religious choice to join his circumcisional people with a bar mitzvah, or his baptismal people with a Confirmation (which involves anointing with oil: a chrismation). As I see it, the baptism of babies is completely Scriptural, and was thought to be a holy act before scripture was written. When Peter baptized the entire family household of Cornelius the Roman, or when Paul baptized whole families, there is no reason to think that babies were excluded. There's nothing in Scripture that suggests that Baptism is intended by God to be the equivalent of Confirmation. This was all before the Scriptures were written, and the Church has been doing that - baptizing children - since the beginning. So, that's what the Church does, and thinks, and that's what I personally think. My thinking is within the lines of the Church. I'm not a big fan of Augustine, and find his logic forced, but I've certainly always been aware, from childhood, of that seal of baptism on me, and how it makes me different, and how it has protected me. There are your answers.
You're just making it up as you go along.
There never were any Anglican priests in Ireland. The Irish were Catholic from the time of Saint Patrick. Always in union with Rome, from one tip of te island to the other. There was not much religious dissension there, and there was no Reformation in Ireland. Long before the Reformation, in 1171, Henry Plantagenet, the Norman French king of England (Henry II), invaded Ireland, and Ireland came under Plantagenet rule. The Anglo-Normans were French-speaking Catholics. The Kings of England did not become English-speaking and were mostly born in France until the late 1300s/early 1400s. Thus, while Ireland was conquered, there was no religious change. It merely meant a change of overlord. Ireland did not become part of the Kingdom of England. Rather, the King of England was also King of Ireland. Had the Norman kings sought to reduce Ireland to a province of England there would have been a popular uprising in Ireland that the small feudal armies at the time never would have been able to put down. Anglo-Norman rule settled in, Catholic lived with Catholic - there were no Protestants, at all, and the land lay in a medieval feudal peace that would last until the Reformation. England had a Reformation and much internal strife. So did Scotland. Ireland did not. The Irish were happy with their faith. The Protestant English and Protestant Scots were not happy that the Irish remained Catholic, and came over to Ireland in various waves to molest the Irish. The two worst examples were the launch of Ulster Plantation by King James in 1606, which launched a colonizing effort by Scots Presbyterians into the northern part of Ireland. The Presbyterians came in looking at the Catholic Irish, living in their homeland, as being the equivalent of savage Indians in the Americas, and sought to exterminate them, force conversion or drive them away. This provoked a civil war in which the Catholic Irish were successful at defeating the advance of the Scots Presbyterians, and limited them to 6 of the northern counties of Ulster. The second and much worse invasion came under Cromwell, whose view of the Catholic Irish was "to hell or to Connaught" (the wild western part of the island. There was nothing "even handed" about this. It was not the case that the Irish abused the English. The Irish did not invade England or Scotland. The Scots and the English invaded Ireland. The Irish did not abuse Protestant religion: there was no Reformation in Ireland. The Protestants came as colonizers and conquerors, and they slaughtered Catholics because Catholics would not convert. The Catholics DID not convert, fought back, held on, and developed a permanent antipathy towards the English and the Scots Presbyterians who had invaded them and slaughtered them. You pretend that there were two sides. There were not. The Protestant invasions of Ireland were purely evil, unprovoked and genocidal in intent. God defeated them twice, and Ireland was the first territory after America out of the British Empire. The Irish and the English and Scots can cooperate, but the history is what it is, and the English and Scottish sides of it are savage and disgraceful. Irish Catholics never did anything to the Scottish Protestants in Scotland or the English Protestants in England. Irish Catholics and English Catholics lived in peace under a common, Catholic king for 300 years. The Protestants came out of England and Scotland seeking to murder the Irish Catholics for being Catholics, like Hitler went after the Jews - with that degree of hate and that degree of evil. They failed. They were defeated, in the case of the Scots. In the English case, Cromwell subdued the island, but the Irish Catholics utterly rejected English Protestantism as the evil, genocidal, demonic religion that it was, to them. In Ireland, the Catholics were the good guys and the Protestants were the murderous agents of genocide and hell. There were not two sides to it. The Protestants came to kill off Catholicism. God defeated them. Ireland is still Catholic, and always will be, until the end of the world.
And what difference does Anglican versus Catholic make in actual practice? The Anglicans support abortion on demand. Catholicism, of course, rejects abortion in all cases except to save the life of the mother. In fact, there is a clear delineation between the most Catholic countries of Europe and the rest. The following countries are the only countries in Europe that do NOT have abortion on demand: Belgium, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Malta and Poland. What do they have in common? They're all Catholic. Some of those countries do allow abortion in cases of fetal handicap or rape or incest. Of course, religion - Protestant AND Catholic - is fading in Europe, while Islam grows. The Christian-on-Christian fighting of the past managed to kill a great deal of the faith.
Most of those NATO nations have a negative birth rate and any increases are due to Muslim immigrants and refugees. Not to mention every EU nation has permissive abortion laws. When will this change?
Europe is dead. The largest expansion of Christianity is Asia and Africa.
Irish Catholics never did anything to the Scottish Protestants in Scotland or the English Protestants in England. Irish Catholics and English Catholics lived in peace under a common, Catholic king for 300 years. The Protestants came out of England and Scotland seeking to murder the Irish Catholics for being Catholics, like Hitler went after the Jews - with that degree of hate and that degree of evil. I never said there were any Anglican priests in Ireland (that I know of, but there may have been a couple), and I never said the Irish Catholics slaughtered any Anglicans in England. What I said was, Roman Catholic kings (and queens) slaughtered Anglican priests and the Anglican Bishops. But neither the Anglicans nor the Presbyterians liked the Irish Roman Catholics, or any Roman Catholics for that matter, and that led to fighting on both sides. And there is no way that one side was any better than the other side. There is peace now and you really need to quit trying to stir up all that shit again. BTW, my Grandma's Irish ancestors were Irish Protestants, and immigrated to the US to escape the fighting and persecution inflicted by the Irish Catholics.
I only post the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. The split with Rome began when the Anglican Church (Canterbury) refused to accept the decrees of 7th Ecumenical Council which said Mary was forever a virgin. It had very little to do with divorce laws. That was just the last straw (that broke the camel's back).
For the record, many Anglicans/ Episcopalians do NOT support abortion on demand. And in the 24 NATO nations I'm speaking of, Christians are still in the majority. Why else do you think God is going to let them rule the Earth for a millennium?
He's not going to.
He's not going to. Wow, just wow. Do you think God is going to let Muslims rule the Earth for a millennium?
God isn't going to let anyone rule the earth other than himself.
Right answer. The only answer. Why would Jesus "assign" His own Reign to any group, organization or persons?
As I have told you guys before, Jesus returned in 312AD (when the sign of Christ appeared in the clouds) as all the world history books say. No where in the Bible does it indicate Jesus returns twice.
Why would Jesus "assign" His own Reign to any group, organization or persons? As I have told u guys many times, God (and Jesus) and all ETs follow the Star Trek directive. They only interfere in the life/evolution of a planet when it is deemed necessary to preserve the intelligent life. In Luke 19:27, Jesus makes it perfectly clear that when He returns with a kingdom, He leaves it up to His followers to kill off all the bad guys. He was only here very briefly when He returned on Oct. 27th, 312 AD, and the rest is up to us. It is up to 24 Christian nations to rule the Earth for a thousand years as prophesied many many times in the Revelation of the Kingdom of God.
A very very good answer. Couldn't have said any better myself. Kudos!
Well, the Bible tells you that when Christ returns, heaven and earth will pass away in a rush, that the City of God will descend, the graves will be opened and the dead will rise, and all will be judged. None of those things happened in 312 AD when a celestial pattern of planets and stars sort of formed "PX" A transitory pattern of stars and planets that, with imagination, can be seen as resembling a pair of Greek letters, which popular Christian thought associated with Christ (who was called that by the Christians - his name was Iesous, which did not appear in the sky), without the other stuff like the end of the world and legions of angels and plagues, etc., doesn't match the Bible pattern at all. When a similar pattern occurs in the stains in a teacup, one does not say that Christ has returned in one's teacup.
A man sees what he wants to see and disregards the rest.
very true of Constantine
That isn't in red so you don't believe it. You said the bible is full of lies. Quit talking about Christianity you don't know about it. Talk about Catholicism and the sun god, and the occult symbols you look at like an addict in a crack house. You are correct that none of those things happened in 312 AD or any other day though.
Quit talking about Christianity you don't know about it. Talk about Catholicism and the sun god, and the occult symbols you look at like an addict in a crack house. You are correct that none of those things happened in 312 AD or any other day though. Catholicism IS Christianity, according to 95% of the world's Christians. The crazy fringe like you assert that anybody who doesn't see and understand things exactly the way your Pastor Bob tells you to, are not really Christians. Somewhere inside you have to know you're wrong, but you can't stop yourself. And the real irony here is that, yeah, the description of the end of the world IS spoken out loud by God and the angels in Heaven to John, and he was told to take dictation, so those, in fact, ARE red letter words using the criteria of "Jesus said it".
Then I stand corrected.
never believe a false prophet liar
another lie from mental midget
You dont get shit right liar. God wan rned us against liars like you.
Trump will no doubt also have to take out the evil Ayatollah Khomeini, the de facto king in Tehran, Because Tehran is very accurately pointed to and bisected by the Jerusalem- to-the-dry-Euphrates direction. another lie from mental midget I am glad you brought that one up. I was a little bit off with that prognostication. First of all, the vector pointing to the demonic kings of the east passes through Qom, the home of the Ayatollah, the real king of Iran and not through Tehran the home of the puppet king. Second, it appears that Pres. Biden will be the president who takes him out (not of his own volition, but at the behest of our secretary of defense and our generals, after the Ayatollah killed 3 more US servicemen yesterday) And yes, as usual, I was a couple years ahead of God's time table --cause I want the thousand years of peace to hurry up and get here, and it can only happen when all the bad guys are taken out. And not only Ayatollah Kohmieni, but Putin too, also Mr. Un for good measure and anyone else who doesn't want Judeo-Christian nations ruling the earth. Barry
None of those things happened in 312 AD when a celestial pattern of planets and stars sort of formed "PX" Heaven and Earth passing away, and the New Jerusalem descending on a new planet with no sea happens a thousand years from now and has nothing to do with the return of Christ in 312 AD, when the sign of Christ appeared in the clouds. That's when Constantine, with a bow, conquered all the known world at the behest of Jesus; and all of the pagan Romans (who crucified Christ) mourned over their dead soldiers (exactly as prophesied in the Revelation to John). There is no possible way the second coming can happen in the future because 1. the pagan Roman soldiers are no longer around (having died in 312 AD), and 2. No one conquers even the smallest of countries with a bow any more, much less all the known world. Barry M PS The sign of Christ (in use even before 312AD) was an XP, not PX. "Xp" is the first two letters of Christ in Greek
shut up liar Bible denying sack of shit.
a couple is two dumb ass and trump aint Biden. Idiot.
Ah, were it only possible to take all the bad guys out. But men are born in a constant generation, more and more as the years go by. And large numbers of men go bad. Kill one, another takes his place. To kill all of the bad men would be to empty the planet.
To kill all of the bad men would be to empty the planet. Now you are getting the point (of both the Revelation and the Bible). The seven last plagues are the method God uses to take out half of the planet. Two will be in the field, one taken, the other left. Two women will be grinding at the mill, one taken, the other left. Two men will be in one bed, one life will be taken, the other left. In several other verses, Jesus says half of the earth (all of the bad guys) will be taken out. And Jesus doesn't tell fibs. Barry M
a couple is two dumb ass and trump aint Biden. Idiot. I don't know where you live, but in Texas, a couple means two or more. And just for you, in my latest predictions, I have made that perfectly clear, by saying all the predictions will be fulfilled by 2030, which is exactly 2000 years after the resurrection of Christ (in 30 AD). That's because I'm getting tired of Bible-scoffers like you, and don't want to give any more nit-pickers any ammunition.
Jesus may not tell fibs, but he DID say he would return that generation, that there were those standing there who would see him return in glory. He didn't.
You always lie. Youre a proud booaster. talking the same bullshit all the time.You're not a real Texan.
You are kidding right? Jesus did return that generation to reveal the Kingdom of God as promised. He revealed it to John when they were both about a hundred years old. Like I said, Jesus does not tell fibs. If He did, you might as well throw the Bible in the garbage. Barry Midyet
No, I'm not kidding. Jesus said many things about his return, and none of those things happened. I don't really want to go through the Gospels and Revelation and quote him over and over. In brief, he said he would return in glory on a cloud with great power and glory. He didn't. He said when he came, he would judge the world, separating them like sheep and goats, into Heaven and eternal punishment. Never happened. And the first century Christians who wrote the New Testament didn't think it had happened either. Paul was earliest, and he was looking forward to the coming of Jesus. The synoptic gospels came, and they spoke of Jesus coming. Peter's letter, written later, calls those who are questioning when Jesus would return "scoffers", and in the very last book written, Revelation, at the very end of the century, the author is pleading "Come Lord Jesus." You think he came back? Ok. But he didn't come back like he explicitly said he would. So if he didn't lie about coming back, and did come back, then he fibbed about the manner of his return, and what would happen. Like you, I like to interpret things. But it only goes so far. When a guy says overtly he will come in glory on a cloud to judge the world and all will see it, and that he will separate people before his throne, and give them each their recompense, I could see recompense in what happens after death, but the coming in Glory on a Cloud that all see? Never happened. And people don't see that in their NDEs either. So I assert firmly that No, Jesus did not return. Not like he said he would. If you want to interpret little things at the edges to mean he has, you can. But that seems to me like a rather desperate attempt to save the man from the consequences of what he said would happen. He may come like a thief in the night, they day may catch people unawares, but he is supposed to return in glory on a cloud for all to see. That's what HE SAID would happen. And that hasn't happened yet. (And it doesn't happen to each individual in their NDEs. It actually doesn't happen at all - that is not what people see in their NDEs.) There really isn't any way to reconcile our two views. Yours is based on interpretations of what he said. Mine is based on far less forced interpretations: I read what he said. He said he would come back, in glory, on a cloud, in that generation, and judge the world. And he didn't. Which means, to me, that ultimately it wasn't true. He was a good man, but he failed to do what he said he would do. That's the bottom line. I still like him, but I'm not going to bend reality to try to save him from himself. And anyway, not everything he said is all that great. Turn on your family and leave them and don't look back for him? Why? Because he's going to return that generation and judge the world? Well, ok, if that were true then it might be worth it. But it wasn't true. He didn't. So no, don't turn on your family, and don't give it all away. He said so, yes, but it's bad advice. And he said he would come back in glory on a cloud that generation and all would see and judge too, but he didn't. Jesus says some good really good things about charity. He also says some fanatical shite. And he either lied about coming back on a cloud and judging the world in that generation, OR he believed it, but was wrong, because he wasn't what he thought he was. Either way, abandoning reason to follow a first century fanatic who didn't do what he said he would do, but who will leave you broken, lonely, and poor if you follow him to the letter, is unwise. Which is why Christians don't REALLY do what he says. They do SOME of what he says - the parts that are reasonable and seem good - but they ignore the crazy fanatic stuff. Abaandon your family for him? No. That's what cult leaders say. Sell it all and give it all to the poor? Well, if they world were going to end like he said, sure. But it didn't. so no, you have to live in it, and your children, and theirs, and so on. So, Jesus demanded it, but he was an idiot in that regard. Don't do that. If you want to pick all the good out of what he said and do that? Great! Proceed! It's much better than what Yahweh said in the old testament (kill people for leaving home on Saturday, kill people for being raped in the city, or for eating shrimp) - that's insane. Allah said very similar things - kill the infidel, rule him and make sex slaves of the women. Chyeah. Or the Hindu gods with their idea that if you're suffering in this world, it's karmic justice for what you did in the last life, and you frustrate justice by helping the lower castes. Disgusting. Jesus has a much better message. But it's contaminated with insanity, and sealed with a promise that he could not fulfill. So yes, follow him, as far as is reasonable. But don't believe he's God - even HE said he wasn't (he said the father was the One True God) - and take him at his word: he was coming back that generation ion a cloud in glory to judge the world. He didn't. That's the bottom line. End of the discussion. The Jehovah's Witnesses knew the world was ending, Jesus was coming. They knew the world would end in 1917. It didn't. They knew it would end in 1940. It didn't. They knew it would end in 1975. It didn't. They told their people to not bother to educate their children, to sell all their possessions and wait. Three times the earnest dupes did that. Three times they were left destitute and ignorant. Happens every time, and will keep happening. So, it's fine to "read the signs" and see the end of the world coming. And if you fervently believe in it, it will: you'll die, and the world will end for you. But if you go farther and actually do what Jesus said: leave your family and sell it all and give it away. You'll die alone in a cardboard box under a bridge overpass, and leave your estranged family destitute - all over a fantasy. So, keep your fervor for Jesus within bounds, and you're fine. Actually DO everything he SAID to do, and you'll end up crushed and sad in a world that goes on and on and on. Because he wasn't God, and he didn't end the world like he said he would. Sorry.
I know what you are talking about. But I believe you read them wrong. Will post in the future about it.
That is advice I will take. You are a liar so I throw everything you say in the garbage.
Looking forward to seeing it.
And the first century Christians who wrote the New Testament didn't think it had happened either. Paul was earliest, and he was looking forward to the coming of Jesus. The synoptic gospels came, and they spoke of Jesus coming. Peter's letter, written later, calls those who are questioning when Jesus would return "scoffers", and in the very last book written, Revelation, at the very end of the century, the author is pleading "Come Lord Jesus." You think he came back? Ok. But he didn't come back like he explicitly said he would. So if he didn't lie about coming back, and did come back, then he fibbed about the manner of his return, and what would happen. I can assure you that everything Jesus predicted happened, except for a few things (very few) that are still in the future. Lets take the prophecies one at a time. When Jesus said "certain of those standing here" would see him return to reveal the Kingdom of God, that certain person was John, as Jesus, in John's Gospel, clearly signifies right before He ascends into heaven (i.e,into a cloud). Jesus was talking about his appearance to John in 95 or 96 AD to give him the "revelation" of His Kingdom. Jesus returned with a kingdom in 312 AD when His sign appeared in the clouds over Rome, and that same night He appeared to St. Constantine and said, "By this sign conquer." And the first thing in the morning, that's what Constantine did. He put the sign on all his armor and on his laburim, and carrying only a bow , Constantine conquered all the known world for Jesus and His Church. All of the pagans were mourning exactly as prophesied. What most people don't realize is that Jesus himself doesn't kill anyone. His followers do all the killing, as Jesus, in Luke 19:27, makes perfectly clear. More later, Barry M
And the part where Jesus said that he would divide the sheep from the goats, sending the sheep to everlasting life and the goats to everlasting punishment? When did that happen?
You're a stupid person.
Like I said, the 7 last plagues are the method that Jesus uses to accomplish that. Barry M
meninterpreters have assumed dominion over the faith of others....
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Satanic blather.....
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So Men will rule the Earth, and better yet NATO?
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NATO, global warming, and Trump. No Jeb!?
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There is no longer any need for another Bush. Now we have Trump, the latest Episcopalian to rule the US (and/or the world). Everything is back to normal and fine now.
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Everything is back to normal and fine now.
#8. To: buckeroo, interpreter, Christmas Episcopalians, Tooconservative, *Border Invasion* (#7)
Does this mean the IRS won't kick my ass anymore?
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It is hard to believe Trump is Christian, he certainly missed the Jesus message
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It is hard to believe Trump is Christian, he certainly missed the Jesus message Well, he's not perfect. Only Jesus was/is perfect
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Don't give me platitudes, we each have a moral responsibility
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Is is true that Trump used to be a Presbyterian. Now he is a member of Mar-a- Lago's Episcopal Church, and attends pretty much every Sunday with his wife and kid. Its where they got married, and where their child (Barry) was Baptized.
Donald Trump boasted about his faith as a Presbyterian during a rally on Saturday, where he contrasted it with the Seventh Day Adventist faith that Ben Carson ascribes to. Donald Trump's parents, Fred and Mary, worshipped at Marble Collegiate, and both of their funeral services were held there. Donald and both of his sisters were married in the church. "I still remember [Peale’s] sermons," Trump told the Iowa Family Leadership Summit in July, Politico reported. "You could listen to him all day long. And when you left the church, you were disappointed it was over. He was the greatest guy." Evangelical Presbyterians will find themselves offended by Trump’s trivialization of the need to ask God for forgiveness.
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Trump will no doubt also have to take out the evil Ayatollah Khomeini,
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Melania is Catholic. I think Trump moved Episcopalian to come as close as possible while staying Protestant.
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Huh? That booger died a couple of decades ago. My favorite part of his funeral was when his pallbearers stumbled and dumped him out on the ground. Damn shame a dog didn't run up and take a dump on his face.
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In case you dont know it, when one Ayatolla dies, another one replaces him within a couple days.
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Melania Trump was baptized Catholic in her native Slovenia by her mother and the parish priest in her hometown, in 1970. When she visited the Pope, she brought her own personal rosary for him to bless it. Melania Trump is Catholic
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The original Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini died in 1989 and was replaced by the Ayatollah Ali Khamenei (after a funeral that rivalled Mussolini's for sheer spectacle). No blood relation. Khamenei has been in power ever since as the Supreme Leader of Iran, kind of a theocratic dicatator-for-life that relies for his power on the morality police and Iran's Republican Guard.
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Like I already told you, Melania was not allowed to even attend the Catholic Church, much less be baptized. Her dad was a very high-ranking atheist (Communist) official who's job it was to put people to death for attending the Ronan Catholic Church. He probably would have killed even his own daughter if she would have done what you so ridiculously claim.
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That is probably the dumbest and completely untrue post I've heard yet (if that were possible). In case you dont know it, when one Ayatolla dies, another one replaces him within a couple days.
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if she would have done what you so ridiculously claim.
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Her dad was a very high-ranking atheist (Communist) official who's job it was to put people to death for attending the Ronan Catholic Church.
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Melania Trump Is First Catholic to Live in White House Since JFK
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of the Anglican variety).
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Melania is a practicing Catholic.
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Melania's mother, was Catholic, and had Melania baptized - whether the father knew that or not, who can say?
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didn't know there were two kinds of Catholics. Well they aren't really Catholics but Anglicans. Apparently they were "Catholic", but when the Roman Catholic variety drifted from scripture by appointing a "pope" ruler over the churches and calling him holy father the Anglicans chose to follow God instead of the pope man. That would mean that the Roman Catholic s are imposters, and if there was a church founded but Peter it would be the Anglicans and not the blasphemous Roman Catholics.
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Melania is not, and never has been a Roman Catholic.
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I didn't know there were two kinds of Catholics.
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Well, he's not perfect. Only Jesus was/is perfect
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But Catholics were not hunted down and killed for going to Church, the Churches were not closed.
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Melania is not, and never has been a Roman Catholic.
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didn't know there were two kinds of Catholics. Well they aren't really Catholics but Anglicans. Apparently they were "Catholic", but when the Roman Catholic variety drifted from scripture by appointing a "pope" ruler over the churches and calling him holy father the Anglicans chose to follow God instead of the pope man.
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ccording to your beliefs which are probably the Catholic churches beliefs. What is the point in getting baptized as a baby? Does it make them Catholic? If so are they still Catholic if they decide to become Baptists later in life?
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There are 23 different kinds of Catholics. What distinguishes them from the other forms of Christianity )Orthodox and Protestant) is that all 23 Catholic Churches and their members consider the Pope to be the head of the Church on earth.
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Mary was forever a virgin
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According to your beliefs which are probably the Catholic churches beliefs. What is the point in getting baptized as a baby? Does it make them Catholic? If so are they still Catholic if they decide to become Baptists later in life?
#54. To: interpreter (#51)
Actually, the Anglican Church/ England was never under the jurisdiction of Rome except whenever Rome sent someone to conquer England and force them to come under the jurisdiction of Rome (beginning with the Norman kings, and continuing off and on for about 1600 years and it got very bad, awful bloody at times. All (or mostly) because we refuse to say Mary was forever a virgin which we Anglicans consider to be a heresy. The fact that we are also a little bit more lenient when it comes to granting a divorce has also entered into it if you are talking about Henry the 8th. But that is only one king out of many dozens who broke with Rome.
#55. To: interpreter (#50)
They were the blood thirsty ones who when they were in power (as with Bloody Mary) slaughtered all the Anglican priests and bishops who refused to say the Mass (or (Eucharist) the Roman way.
#56. To: interpreter (#51)
#57. To: interpreter (#0)
24 Christian nations in NATO will rule the Earth unhindered by Satan for a millennium.
#58. To: interpreter (#4)
Of course. God always works through men. In the Old Testament it was Isreal. And now it is through Christian nations. (The God of the OT is the God of the NT)
#59. To: Vicomte13 (#55)
(Edited)
There never were any Anglican priests in Ireland. The Irish were Catholic from the time of Saint Patrick. Always in union with Rome, from one tip of te island to the other. There was not much religious dissension there, and there was no Reformation in Ireland.
#60. To: Vicomte13 (#54)
(Edited)
You're just making it up as you go along.
#61. To: Vicomte13 (#56)
#62. To: interpreter (#61)
Why else do you think God is going to let them rule the Earth for a millennium?
#63. To: Vicomte13 (#62)
"Why else do you think God is going to let them rule the Earth for a millennium?"
#64. To: interpreter (#63)
Wow, just wow. Do you think God is going to let Muslims rule the Earth for a millennium?
#65. To: Vicomte13, interpreter (#64)
God isn't going to let anyone rule the earth other than himself.
#66. To: Vicomte13 (#64)
God isn't going to let anyone rule the earth other than himself.
#67. To: Liberator (#65)
(Edited)
Right answer. The only answer.
#68. To: A K A Stone (#52)
(Edited)
If that was the case it would have sucked to be Joseph. I don't think Mary was a bitch that would do that to her husband.
#69. To: interpreter (#66)
As I have told you guys before, Jesus returned in 312AD (when the sign of Christ appeared in the clouds) as all the world history books say. No where in the Bible does it indicate Jesus returns twice.
#70. To: interpreter (#67)
#71. To: Vicomte13 (#70)
A man sees what he wants to see and disregards the rest.
#72. To: Vicomte13 (#69)
Well, the Bible tells you that when Christ returns, heaven and earth will pass away in a rush
#73. To: A K A Stone (#72)
(Edited)
That isn't in red so you don't believe it. You said the bible is full of lies.
#74. To: Vicomte13 (#73)
in fact, ARE red letter words
#75. To: interpreter, vicomte13. mudbiy slim (#0)
Trump & company will also take out Kim Jong-Un, the evil little whore in Pyongyang. (See commentary on Revelation 17 for more on little whores of the atheist kind).
#76. To: interpreter (#0)
Trump will no doubt also have to take out the evil Ayatollah Khomeini, the de facto king in Tehran, Because Tehran is very accurately pointed to and bisected by the Jerusalem- to-the-dry-Euphrates direction.
#77. To: interpreter (#0)
Trump will no doubt also have to take out the evil Ayatollah Khomeini, the de facto king in Tehran, Because Tehran is very accurately pointed to and bisected by the Jerusalem- to-the-dry-Euphrates direction.
#78. To: A K A Stone (#76)
To: interpreter
#79. To: Vicomte13 (#69)
(Edited)
Well, the Bible tells you that when Christ returns, heaven and earth will pass away in a rush, that the City of God will descend, the graves will be opened and the dead will rise, and all will be judged.
#80. To: interpreter (#78)
#81. To: interpreter (#79)
#82. To: interpreter (#78)
#83. To: Vicomte13 (#82)
Ah, were it only possible to take all the bad guys out. But men are born in a constant generation, more and more as the years go by. And large numbers of men go bad. Kill one, another takes his place.
#84. To: A K A Stone (#81)
#85. To: interpreter (#83)
#86. To: interpreter (#84)
#87. To: Vicomte13 (#85)
Jesus may not tell fibs, but he DID say he would return that generation, that there were those standing there who would see him return in glory. He didn't.
#88. To: interpreter (#87)
#89. To: Vicomte13 (#88)
#90. To: interpreter (#87)
does not tell fibs. If He did, you might as well throw the Bible in the garbage.
#91. To: A K A Stone (#89)
#92. To: Vicomte13 (#88)
Jesus said many things about his return, and none of those things happened. I don't really want to go through the Gospels and Revelation and quote him over and over. In brief, he said he would return in glory on a cloud with great power and glory. He didn't. He said when he came, he would judge the world, separating them like sheep and goats, into Heaven and eternal punishment. Never happened.
#93. To: interpreter (#92)
#94. To: interpreter (#92)
#95. To: Vicomte13 (#93)
And the part where Jesus said that he would divide the sheep from the goats, sending the sheep to everlasting life and the goats to everlasting punishment? When did that happen?
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