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Title: It's all Eve's fault
Source: Genesis: Why We Are Here
URL Source: http://barrymidyet.com
Published: Mar 17, 2018
Author: Barry Midyet
Post Date: 2018-03-17 01:24:12 by interpreter
Keywords: Genesis, Beer, Eve
Views: 6900
Comments: 78

Excerpt from my new book:

Here is a big question for the reader to ponder: “What separates humans from the monkeys?” Hint: It is not opposable thumbs or the ability to use tools, because both species have that. It is not even our ability to talk, or to build a fire, because monkeys can be taught to do that.

The difference, first of all, is that we have developed the ability to read and write, and to pass down information to our offspring. The earliest writing was discovered in the Garden of Eden, also called the Fertile Crescent and/or Mesopotamia, and dates to approximately 6 thousand years before Christ. It says, when translated into English, “fermented red grapes + hops + barley.” That is the recipe for beer, folks, as it used to be made before the discovery of brewer’s yeast. And beer, archeologists and historians tell us, was discovered by and made by women (i.e, Eve).1

Secondly, the red grapes were plentiful in the Garden of Eden, and possibly the hops, but the barley had to be cultivated. Barley is also a good food source, and it led to the first sustained2 farming. Soon, several additional crops were planted such as wheat and chickpeas, and by 4000 BC many (if not most) of the vegetables and herbs that we eat today were grown in the Fertile Crescent.

The third major development was, around 4000 BC the first large city (or the first civilization, or the first modern man), sprang up around farming and the brewing of beer, and exactly when and where the Bible says it did. The first cities were Eridu, Ur and Urak.

Shortly afterwards, two more important things happened. A common language was developed (at first mostly oral, but also written) and the world’s first king appeared.

It was not long before all of the cities in Mesopotamia, in order to trade with each other, developed a common language – sometimes called the Indo- European language which was only spoken at first, and some decades later developed into a written language. It is basically a mixture of the Sumerian language (one syllable words) and the Semitic language (advanced multi-syllable words), the two languages originally spoken in the Garden of Eden. The newly developed common language also allowed the Mesopotamians to intermarry for the first time, which greatly helped in unifying their culture. About the same time, the world’s first king appeared. He lived in Eridu.3

Also on Day One, the wheel was invented in Eden circa 3500 BC. Scientists (archeologists) think it was first used as a potter’s wheel, and was soon adapted to haul crops to the market, and for chariots.4 The earliest wheeled cart was discovered in Ur (where Abraham was born).

There will be many who will say that because fermented red grapes are most likely the forbidden fruit that typically grows on trees, and especially in Mesopotamia/Eden, they must be very bad for you. Moreover, that is a pretty valid point because drinking too many red beers can certainly kill you like God says. In addition, red beer (say most Bible historians) is the “strong drink” that many verses in the Old Testament warn us about. (Indeed, if it leads you to break any of the ten commandments, then you should consider abstaining, and especially so if it causes you to wreck your car and injure or kill someone).

Consequently, in many religions of today (including Islam and many Christian sects) fermented grapes are still the forbidden fruit.

On the other hand, it can well be argued that not only consuming too many beers, but consuming too much of anything is bad for you. Moreover, it can truly be said that brewing beer from fermented red grapes have given us all kinds of knowledge, including knowledge of good and evil. Moreover, beer that is made the way Eve brewed it, from red grapes which contain natural yeast, is actually very good for you health-wise and leads to longer life5 (when drank in moderation). Brewer’s yeast has some medicinal benefits too, but it also contains a lot of calories which can lead to “beer bellies” which are not good for you, both appearance-wise and health-wise.

IMHO6, because beer is the reason we are here, it is high time to get mad at MADD7 (all puns intended), and legalize stopping for two beers after a long day’s work, which dates from Adam and Eve. Consuming two pints (two 16 oz. “tall boys”) should not be against the law, yet it is now in several US states. And virtually all studies (except for the MADD one) say that consuming two beers do not make you too impaired to drive. In addition, it can just as well be argued that the vast majority of accidents are caused by completely sober drivers. But of course, depending on how much you weigh, drinking more than two beers within an hour can make you too impaired to drive, so everyone should indeed drink “responsibly.”

Barry M

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#39. To: Justified (#34)

There is no science in God's word for He makes it very clear who His people are.

From the The Apocrypha Book (Hidden things)

https://www.biblestudytools.com/kjva/2-esdras/passage/?q=2-esdras+6:54-59

From the KJV the Israelites were black- His People

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Song+of+Solomon+1%3A5-6&version=KJV

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Amos+9%3A7&version=KJV

goldilucky  posted on  2018-03-19   14:05:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Liberator (#36)

Yes, I am.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+22%3A19&version=KJV

goldilucky  posted on  2018-03-19   14:08:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: goldilucky (#40)

Revelation. Yes...

Revelation 22:19 King James Version (KJV)

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Is it your contention that The Apocryphal writings are part of John's ORIGINAL "words of the book of this prophecy"?

I'm fully convinced that IF it were the will of God Himself for those writings in the final draft of The Bible (in the KJV for instance), they would be there. But they are not and have NOT been there.

This doesn't mean some of the Apocryphal writings aren't true; It just means too much of it is contaminated, irrelevant, or too incomplete to be included as the FINAL Word of God.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-19   17:06:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: goldilucky (#39)

From the KJV the Israelites were black- His People

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Song+of+Solomon+1%3A5-6&version=KJV

"Because the sun has tanned me."

(Working in the vineyards might do that. No??)

What do you believe is the significance -- even IF the Israelites were "black"?

Are you inferring that one reason the Book of Enoch or The Apocryphal writing are not included in the Final Draft of the Bible is..."racism"?

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-19   17:16:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: interpreter (#38)

Grape vines do grow on trees

Grape vines may attach themselves to trees - they are NOT trees.

Do Grapes Grow on Trees or Vines?

Grapes are grouped together botanically into the genus Vitis, which comprises 65 species native to woodlands and thickets across temperate zones of the Northern Hemisphere. They are woody, deciduous vines or climbing shrubs, but often attached themselves to trees.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2018-03-19   17:41:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Deckard (#43)

In your own quote, it says that grape vines often attach themselves to trees. In the Garden of Eden there was no other place to grow on or attach to . The trellesses of NAPA valley had not been invented yet.

interpreter  posted on  2018-03-19   18:26:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Liberator (#42)

The true biblical Israelites were black. I have mentioned several references to their being black.

As for the The Book of Enoch and The Apocryphal writings being deleted, I believe this was done to withhold evidence from the black people so that they would not recognize who they are and where they came from thus making it convincing enough to them to convert themselves to a religion such as Catholicism, Christianity or even Islam; religions that God considered not compatible with His word and statutes. When they were scattered from the land of ancient Canaan into Ethiopia and sold as slaves among the Western coast of Ethiopia, many were forced to convert to Catholicism and Christianity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaan_(son_of_Ham) There is much history in this on the West Coast (the gold coast) well documented. One just needs to delve into deeper research and dig up ancient maps and you will find your answers.

goldilucky  posted on  2018-03-19   20:19:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Liberator (#41)

Is it your contention that The Apocryphal writings are part of John's ORIGINAL "words of the book of this prophecy"?

Yes and also part of Revelations as well. The word "Apocryphal" means things that are hidden. Check this out www.dictionary.com/browse/apocrypha

goldilucky  posted on  2018-03-19   20:23:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Liberator (#41)

I'm fully convinced that IF it were the will of God Himself for those writings in the final draft of The Bible (in the KJV for instance), they would be there. But they are not and have NOT been there.

The will of God would never have omitted his message to his chosen trusted scribes. Those "authorities" who chose to omit His message are those who believe they are entitled to omit His message because they decide what is considered "holy" enough to be "canonized" and recognized in their convoluted churches. Even those who omitted His message despise His statutes. This is why even God is so angry because His own people are destroyed for lack of knowledge; knowledge that was withheld from them by others in charge.

goldilucky  posted on  2018-03-19   20:29:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: goldilucky (#39)

Did you actually read the verse?

Israelis are being ask to accept a darken skinned(for whatever that means) person meaning this is not normal and Israelis don’t want to accept him for being dark skin.

I’m white(pasty white) and my grand father looked American Indian after working in the field. Very Dark skin and was teased so much that he quit high school.

Justified  posted on  2018-03-20   10:53:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: goldilucky (#45) (Edited)

As for the The Book of Enoch and The Apocryphal writings being deleted, I believe this was done to withhold evidence from the black people so that they would not recognize who they are and where they came from thus making it convincing enough to them to convert themselves to a religion such as Catholicism, Christianity or even Islam; religions that God considered not compatible with His word and statutes.

So your theory is that the chosen scribes of God's own Word chose purposely to LIE BY OMISSION right off the bat?

There is much history in this on the West Coast (the gold coast) well documented. One just needs to delve into deeper research and dig up ancient maps and you will find your answers.

I have read the writings, watched video, listened to theories and explanations....

It is true that there is much info and history that isn't included in the Bible. But mustn't one conclude that The Almighty Himself controlled the Final Draft? For HIS reasons? (Mostly because man's imagination inevitably runs wild into irrelevant tangents.)

Why must man insist that HE be the Final Arbiter of Truth instead of what God wants us to focus on?

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-20   12:55:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: goldilucky (#46)

Yes and also part of Revelations as well. The word "Apocryphal" means things that are hidden.

I know what "Apocryphal" means. But it winds up that it's either partially hidden or incomplete, no?

And again, if God willed those writings into the standing Bible, including ALL of Enoch, the world of Giants and Nephilim and the pre-Flood bizarro-world and the rest of the Dead Sea Scroll material would be there.

With respect to Ham and his family who were claimed to be black (or "true Israelites"), exactly how does it change any of what we are to believe as Christians?

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-20   12:59:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: goldilucky (#47)

The will of God would never have omitted his message to his chosen trusted scribes.

Those "authorities" who chose to omit His message are those who believe they are entitled to omit His message because they decide what is considered "holy" enough to be "canonized" and recognized in their convoluted churches.

I'm sorry; I don't believe The Almighty didn't/doesn't have the power to will EXACTLY TO THE THE WORD what the Final Draft of His Word was to be.

If we accept that the entire Bible is the Inspired Word of God, then why suddenly change our mind?

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-20   13:02:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Justified, goldilucky (#48)

Did you actually read the verse?

I'd ask the same.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-20   13:03:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Justified (#48)

What part of that verse do you not understand, Liberator?

The true Israelites were never white. They were black and were the first people on this planet. The White Israelites that came later came after the Great Flood and are considered Gentiles.

goldilucky  posted on  2018-03-21   23:34:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: All (#53)

Sorry, not Liberator.

goldilucky  posted on  2018-03-21   23:34:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Liberator (#50)

Jesus was not a Christian; he was a Jew born of the Tribe of Judah.

You need to do some deep research rather than just spouting of Christianity values. You could start by looking into old ancient maps of Ethiopia dating back to 1500. Jesus was not a Christian; he was a very comely man born a Jew of the Tribe of Judah. The Tribe of Judah was not white. White people did not come into existence until after the Great Flood.

goldilucky  posted on  2018-03-21   23:43:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Liberator (#51)

Nothing what you stated makes any sense to me at all.

Either you believe in the bible or you don't. Either you trust in God's word or you trust in Man's word.

goldilucky  posted on  2018-03-21   23:45:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Liberator (#49)

So your theory is that the chosen scribes of God's own Word chose purposely to LIE BY OMISSION right off the bat?

I never said the scribes chose to omit God's message. I said that other people in power omitted them for their own scheming reasons. Knowledge is power and it can be used to empower people or destroy them for lack of it.

goldilucky  posted on  2018-03-21   23:48:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: goldilucky (#55)

Jesus was not a Christian; he was a Jew born of the Tribe of Judah.

While this is true, it is also true that Jesus had some issues with the way the Jews were conducting themselves and his teaching incensed the religious Jews who arranged his death. The Jews don't want to admit to the murder of Jesus but they conspired to kill him and Pilate conveniently became his executor. After His death and ressurected Jesus Instituted what became Christianity, so it is a mote point as to whether he was Christian, but he is certainly the leader of the Christian Church

paraclete  posted on  2018-03-22   0:22:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: goldilucky (#53)

Who knows what they were but they were not black. Probably Middle Eastern or eastern Europe dna.

Put your biases aside and read the truth.

There are some black jews after King Solomon slept with Queen Sheba. BTW which is the reason Israel fell apart.

Justified  posted on  2018-03-22   9:51:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Justified (#59) (Edited)

http://www.scripturessay.com/whe...e-origin-of-the-gentiles/

If you click onto that site where it reads Genesis 10:1 it informs all of us of who to the real Israelite people were. The people of Shem and Japheth (white people) came after the Great flood and division of earth during the time of Peleg.

Also if DNA is not so important these days, then why doe there exist, in Cairo, Egypt, images of this

https://shazereverquar.wordpress.com/2016/12/11/oldest-painting-of-jesus/ Do they know something that we do not? And how about in the Vatican church which depicts Jesus as black too?

goldilucky  posted on  2018-03-22   11:01:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: paraclete (#58)

No, Jesus would never be the leader of a church whose practices he abhorred such as the celebrations of Easter and Christmas whioh have nothing to do with Him at all. If anything he stood for His fathers statutes to the very end rather than stand by any man-made structure and their principles which were contrary to His father's words and laws. In other words, the Commandments and laws were given to Moses (a black Israelite) to teach His people God's laws. These commandments are not recognized by most churches today. But I have to agree with you about one thing: Jesus found disfavor amongst the Jewish people because of their wayward ways and disobedience to His fathers laws and also how they treated their own people. They were guilty of handing Jesus over to be executed under Governor Pontius Pilate who found favor in Jesus and without fault or error. The blood is on the Jews who had Jesus killed and they want to blame it on the Roman Church who wanted no part in his execution because not only did the Governor find no fault in Jesus but also they had no jurisdiction over him personally. This is why they asked the Jews what they wanted done to Jesus; which the Jews replied, "Kill Him".

goldilucky  posted on  2018-03-22   11:10:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: goldilucky (#60)

So somehow the jews turned from black to whitish?

I think you are trying to fudge things to what you want them to be instead of what they are. This is always a losing battle.

Justified  posted on  2018-03-22   12:36:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: goldilucky (#55) (Edited)

Jesus was not a Christian; he was a Jew born of the Tribe of Judah.

Relevance?

You need to do some deep research rather than just spouting of Christianity values.

You could start by looking into old ancient maps of Ethiopia dating back to 1500. Jesus was not a Christian; he was a very comely man born a Jew of the Tribe of Judah. The Tribe of Judah was not white. White people did not come into existence until after the Great Flood.

REALLY??

So your theory is NO ONE aboard Noah's ark was white?

Moreover, you believe ONLY in the Ethiopian version of the "Bible" and Apocryphal texts?

I don't know what your agenda is, but it seems to me that you are being led astray.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-22   13:30:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: goldilucky (#53)

The White Israelites that came later came after the Great Flood and are considered Gentiles.

Right...

And again -- how do you explain the sudden emergence of White people? OR Asians for that matter??

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-22   13:32:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: goldilucky (#55)

You need to do some deep research rather than just spouting of Christianity values.

"Christian values"??

As opposed to WHAT "values" or Biblical knowledge may I ask?

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-22   13:33:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: goldilucky (#56)

Nothing what you stated makes any sense to me at all.

Either you believe in the bible or you don't. Either you trust in God's word or you trust in Man's word.

That's odd; Here you are NOT trusting God's Word as per the KJV of the Bible. Furthermore, I'd just written about believing in God's word -- and here you are repeating it.

Man's word? You DO realize he Apocryphal writings are incomplete, right? And Dead Sea scrolls arguably subject to man's tampering.

YET...you lecture me on accepting tangential scripture and the supposed addenda to God's Word....or else *I* am mislead?

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-22   13:41:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: goldilucky (#57) (Edited)

I never said the scribes chose to omit God's message. I said that other people in power omitted them for their own scheming reasons.

But wait; That would necessarily confer that God lacks the power to control man...and EXACTLY what HE wants read, studied, and heeded as THE Word.

How can you be sure the "scheming" isn't executed on the Ethiopian end to fragment God's own, sow seeds of doubt and confuse them? (which is exactly what seems to be going on here.)

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-22   13:45:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Justified (#62)

So somehow the jews turned from black to whitish?

Great question. The one responsible for turning Jesus from black to white is the famous painter, Leonardo da Vinci.

goldilucky  posted on  2018-03-23   0:23:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Liberator (#65)

God has nothing to do with Christianity nor the Jewish traditions at all. His law trumps them all.

goldilucky  posted on  2018-03-23   0:25:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Liberator (#66)

Man's word? You DO realize he Apocryphal writings are incomplete, right? And Dead Sea scrolls arguably subject to man's tampering.

If the Apocryphal writings are incomplete than we can also agree that so may be the case with The Book of Enoch.

I am not lecturing you at all. I've done my research and my findings have put me at peace with God. Everytime I pray to Him to show me some things and explain to me what I am lacking in understanding, I always find my answers. Were I to put my faith in Men of the clergy, I would be misled.

goldilucky  posted on  2018-03-23   0:29:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Liberator (#67)

God is in control of everything. He is the Master Creator and Scientist of this vast universe, this earth, and Man. For us to think that we could ever even be equal to God is absolutely ludicrous.

goldilucky  posted on  2018-03-23   0:32:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Liberator (#64)

If you had read Genesis 10:1 carefully, you would have your answer.

But since I have to spell it out to you here goes:

The people of Japheth came after the Great Flood. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japheth

goldilucky  posted on  2018-03-23   0:37:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Liberator (#63)

The bible was written by black people. Moses was black, Noah was black, Abraham was also black.

I don't have an agenda. I'm in search of the truth.

goldilucky  posted on  2018-03-23   0:40:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: goldilucky (#61)

Let me put it this way, Jesus is the leader of all those who call upon his name. He has no need of any intermediary

The Catholic Church and other denominations are a construct which developed centuries after Christ

paraclete  posted on  2018-03-23   1:58:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: goldilucky (#68)

No Jesus would have been middle easterner which would have made him look like someone from Turkey/Iran/Iraq/Lebanon.

Black? No. There is zero evidence of such a crazy claim.

There are black jews but they are not the norm and really just an offshoot of Israelis. Jews that went south and were gobbled up by the local DNA.

Justified  posted on  2018-03-23   11:10:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: goldilucky (#69)

God has nothing to do with Christianity nor the Jewish traditions at all.

I assume with this statement you disbelieve in the Divinity of Jesus Christ?

If so, our conversation need not proceed.

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-23   11:43:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Justified, goldilucky (#75)

No Jesus would have been middle easterner which would have made him look like someone from Turkey/Iran/Iraq/Lebanon.

Black? No. There is zero evidence of such a crazy claim.

I agree.

You have poster insisting that EVERY source of God's scripture OTHER THEN Ethiopian texts are counterfeit and corrupted "by man." (But apparently "man" didn't corrupt the Ethiopian texts.)

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-23   11:46:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: goldilucky (#71)

God is in control of everything.

MY point.

And IF admittedly so, why would HE allow a counterfeit/corrupt version of HIS WORD to be widely dispersed?

Liberator  posted on  2018-03-23   11:48:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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