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Title: Palin's own 'Climate-gate'
Source: Washington Poat
URL Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy ... /12/14/AR2009121402712_pf.html
Published: Dec 15, 2009
Author: Eugene Robinson
Post Date: 2009-12-19 15:37:36 by We The People
Keywords: None
Views: 37874
Comments: 224

By Eugene Robinson Tuesday, December 15, 2009

Sarah Palin is such a cold-eyed skeptic about the Copenhagen summit on climate change that it's no surprise she would call on President Obama not to attend. After all, Obama might join other leaders in acknowledging that warming is a "global challenge." He might entertain "opportunities to reduce greenhouse gas emissions." He might even explore ways to "participate in carbon-trading markets."

Oh, wait. Those quotes aren't from some smug Euro-socialist manifesto. They're from an administrative order Palin signed in September 2007, as governor of Alaska, establishing a "sub-Cabinet" of top state officials to develop a strategy for dealing with climate change.

Back then, Palin was the governor of a state where "coastal erosion, thawing permafrost, retreating sea ice, record forest fires, and other changes are affecting, and will continue to affect, the lifestyles and livelihoods of Alaskans," as she wrote. Faced with that reality, she sensibly formed the high-level working group to chart a course of action.

"Climate change is not just an environmental issue," wrote Palin. "It is also a social, cultural, and economic issue important to all Alaskans."

Palin mentioned having created the climate change unit in an op-ed she wrote last week for The Post. What she didn't acknowledge was the contrast between what she says about climate change now and what she said -- and did -- about it as governor of our most at-risk state. When she was in office, Palin treated the issue as serious, complex and worthy of urgent attention. Now that she's the iconic leader of a populist movement that reacts with anger at the slightest whiff of pointy-headed, "one world" intellectualism, she writes as if the idea of seeking ways to mitigate climate change is a crock.

"Alaska's climate is warming," Palin wrote to Alaskans in a July 2008 newsletter. "While there have been warming and cooling trends before, climatologists tell us that the current rate of warming is unprecedented within the time of human civilization. Many experts predict that Alaska, along with our northern latitude neighbors, will warm at a faster pace than any other areas, and the warming will continue for decades."

In her administrative order, Palin instructed the sub-Cabinet group to develop recommendations on "the opportunities to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from Alaska sources, including the expanded use of alternative fuels, energy conservation, energy efficiency, renewable energy, land use management, and transportation planning." She also instructed the group to look into "carbon-trading markets."

But in her op-ed last week, Palin -- while acknowledging "natural, cyclical environmental trends" and the possibility that human activity might be contributing to warming -- states flatly that "any potential benefits of proposed emissions reduction policies are far outweighed by their economic costs." What she once called "carbon-trading markets" she now denounces as "the Democrats' cap-and-tax proposal."

Palin cites the "Climate-gate" e-mail scandal as reason enough for the president to skip the Copenhagen summit. I've written about those e-mails and why, despite what skeptics say, they do not begin to prove that climate science is fraudulent, politicized or fundamentally flawed. The most compelling evidence for climate change is found in the Arctic, and Palin has seen it firsthand.

In her 2008 newsletter, Palin mentioned one coastal village, Newtok, that would have to be relocated because of flooding due to the effects of warmer temperatures. Since then, relocation plans have been developed for two more towns, Shishmaref and Kivalina. The Army Corps of Engineers has identified more than 160 villages that are threatened, according to a recent newsletter from Palin's successor, Gov. Sean Parnell. At least 31 are judged to be in "imminent" peril.

In case anyone was wondering, Palin's home town of Wasilla sits at an elevation of 333 feet -- high and dry.

The chairman of the Cabinet working group that Palin assembled to develop a climate change strategy, Larry Hartig, is scheduled to deliver a presentation at Copenhagen. Posted in advance on the Internet, the presentation shows that Alaskans aren't just fretting about the abstract possibility of effects from warming. They're dealing with a real, live situation.

I predict we'll see more artful dodges of this kind from Palin. She made any number of pragmatic, reasonable, smart decisions as governor -- and now, it seems, will be obliged to renounce them all. Her tea-party legions have one answer -- a shouted "No!" -- for every question.

Palin knows better, but she has to fiddle her followers' chosen tune -- not while Rome burns, but while Nome melts.

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#155. To: We The People (#154)

YAWN.

""LMAO!

Hey weeps, NEWSFLASH!; the only people who use the term "neocon" are libturds and RINOS/CINOS.

"Isn't it your turn to lick the messiah "king" obammy's a$$hole, you vile libturd shill?""

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   17:34:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: Mad Dog (#155)

No puppy, conservatives also use the term 'neocon' to describe blood sucking neoleeches like you.

Put the moniker of conservative down and take 10 steps backward! Neocon nutjob.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   17:37:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: Mad Dog (#153)

An "honest question"? Sure. But yours aren't "honest" are they, you vile libturd shill?

Ok, let me rephrase it so it doesn't offend your delicate sensibilities.

What is the dictionary definition of Sarah Palin's SELF PROCLAIMED foreign policy?

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   17:42:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: We The People (#156)

LOL!

You are BUSTED weeps! you are LIAR and a vile libturd shill!

"YAWN.

""LMAO!

Hey weeps, NEWSFLASH!; the only people who use the term "neocon" are libturds and RINOS/CINOS.

"Isn't it your turn to lick the messiah "king" obammy's a$$hole, you vile libturd shill?""

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   18:01:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: weeps aka We The People (#157)

A very EASY question shill, when, where and which branch did you serve in shill?

Mine is ALL written and explained in my LP posting history, (go all the way back).

Now TRY to duck, spin, evade, deflect that very simple question shill.

(Remember that your time in the girl scouts and/or ACORN does not count shill).

We're STILL waiting for your answer to this simple honest question shill.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   18:05:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: Mad Dog (#159)

LOL! Sorry nutjob, you haven't answered anything for me yet.

There are questions up thread. I know you saw them. You want me to answer your when you haven't answered mine. You dishonorable fuck, you're acting JUST like yukon. Why would I expect anything different though.

And why are you posting the EXACT same Bullshit lines on two different forums? Are you bipolar or something?

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   18:21:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: We The People (#160)

LMAOAY shill.

"A very EASY question shill, when, where and which branch did you serve in shill?

Mine is ALL written and explained in my LP posting history, (go all the way back).

Now TRY to duck, spin, evade, deflect that very simple question shill.

(Remember that your time in the girl scouts and/or ACORN does not count shill).

We're STILL waiting for your answer to this simple honest question shill.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   18:29:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: Mad Dog (#161)

You do realize that you're copying and pasting the exact same shit on two different forums, over and over and over?

Has that really worked for you in the past? Don't you feel the least bit stupid?

Shit MD, I'm getting embarrassed FOR you. LOL!

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   18:55:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: Mad Dog (#161)

LMAOAY shill.

"A very EASY question shill, when, where and which branch did you serve in shill?

Mine is ALL written and explained in my LP posting history, (go all the way back).

Now TRY to duck, spin, evade, deflect that very simple question shill.

(Remember that your time in the girl scouts and/or ACORN does not count shill).

We're STILL waiting for your answer to this simple honest question shill.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   18:55:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: We The People (#162)

You little shill pussy, you can dish it out but you sure can't take it can you bitch?

Too bad.

"LMAOAY shill.

"A very EASY question shill, when, where and which branch did you serve in shill?

Mine is ALL written and explained in my LP posting history, (go all the way back).

Now TRY to duck, spin, evade, deflect that very simple question shill.

(Remember that your time in the girl scouts and/or ACORN does not count shill).

We're STILL waiting for your answer to this simple honest question shill."

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   19:14:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: We The People (#163)

LMAO!!!!!!

You are incapable of any original thoughts or actions aren't you, you little libturd shill bitch?

"LMAOAY shill.

"A very EASY question shill, when, where and which branch did you serve in shill?

Mine is ALL written and explained in my LP posting history, (go all the way back).

Now TRY to duck, spin, evade, deflect that very simple question shill.

(Remember that your time in the girl scouts and/or ACORN does not count shill).

We're STILL waiting for your answer to this simple honest question shill."

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   19:17:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: Mad Dog (#164)

You little shill pussy, you can dish it out but you sure can't take it can you bitch?

Too bad.

"LMAOAY shill.

"A very EASY question shill, when, where and which branch did you serve in shill?

Mine is ALL written and explained in my LP posting history, (go all the way back).

Now TRY to duck, spin, evade, deflect that very simple question shill.

(Remember that your time in the girl scouts and/or ACORN does not count shill).

We're STILL waiting for your answer to this simple honest question shill."

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   20:03:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: Mad Dog (#165)

LMAO!!!!!!

You are incapable of any original thoughts or actions aren't you, you little libturd shill bitch?

"LMAOAY shill.

"A very EASY question shill, when, where and which branch did you serve in shill?

Mine is ALL written and explained in my LP posting history, (go all the way back).

Now TRY to duck, spin, evade, deflect that very simple question shill.

(Remember that your time in the girl scouts and/or ACORN does not count shill).

We're STILL waiting for your answer to this simple honest question shill."

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   20:03:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: Mad Dog (#165)

Mine is ALL written and explained in my LP posting history, (go all the way back).

I don't give a fuck about 'yours' you freaking retard!

How many times do you have to be told something?

You need to "Change" your copy and paste, idiot!

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   20:05:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: Wood_Chopper (#125)

You can't be LP's Mad Dog. Every post you make here drives a nail into Palin's political life's coffin. You couldn't be turning more people away from Palin if you wanted to.

Actually, Mad Dog does post over on LP. Here: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=280019

#27. To: Mad Dog

(#26) Are you posting over on LF as Mad Dog? sneakypete posted on 2009-12-26 22:06:15 ET Reply Trace

#28. To: sneakypete

(#27) Yes. Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 22:07:48 ET Reply Trace

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-27   20:11:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: weeps (#167)

LOL! WEAK you little shill bitch, just like YOU are!

Thanks for the PROOF as if any more was needed that you are simply incapable of an original thought or action, and that you are nothing but a lying libturd shill.

"A very EASY question shill, when, where and which branch did you serve in shill?

Mine is ALL written and explained in my LP posting history, (go all the way back).

Now TRY to duck, spin, evade, deflect that very simple question shill.

(Remember that your time in the girl scouts and/or ACORN does not count shill).

We're STILL waiting for your answer to this simple honest question shill."

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   20:23:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: weeps (#168)

LOL! you are getting kind of "spit flecked" there, you little shill.

"A very EASY question shill, when, where and which branch did you serve in shill?

Mine is ALL written and explained in my LP posting history, (go all the way back).

Now TRY to duck, spin, evade, deflect that very simple question shill.

(Remember that your time in the girl scouts and/or ACORN does not count shill).

We're STILL waiting for your answer to this simple honest question shill."

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   20:25:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: Mad Dog (#164)

Mad Dog

You're going to get Palin for President. Yes, you will definitely get her alright. She plans to run for President and she will no doubt win because she will have the Bush family, Cheney, the Bloomberg family, and the Rothschild family in her pocket so that she does their dirty biddings. She DOES NOT represent the American people. She represents big oil industries and the Rockefeller ilk.

And she will do to you what Bush did to those who voted for him TWICE for President. Knife the American people in the back again.

History has shown to repeat itself because people like yourself are stuck in the small details of what is going on in the mainstream that you fail to see the big picture. If you would just dare to grasp the wizard of OZ's curtain, you would see that your whole conception of what Palin is is nothing but one big grand illusion. All the world is a stage and Palin is playing her part to bewitch the mass of idiots and sweetstrum them along like a violin enough to put them to sleep.

If you choose to support Palin, fine. That is your choice. But don't come whinning to the rest of us when her time comes and she does a Bush on all of us.

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-27   20:29:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: Wood_Chopper, Mad Dog (#139)

Woodchopper is correct to note that Palin is pro-amnesty. Everything that is BAD for this country and is the reason why she is unfit to be President. On page two of the article posted below, Sarah Palin is quote as saying she supports amnesty!

Read it for yourself, Mad Dog. Facts are facts. Palin is nothing but some puppet for the elitists who are working feverishly to destroy America.

Interview with Sarah Palin October 26, 2008

www.univision.com/content...534&cid=1716304&pagenum=1

www.univision.com/content...534&cid=1716304&pagenum=2

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-27   20:54:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: Mad Dog (#170)

WEAK you little shill bitch, just like YOU are!

I have told you before Nighthawk, that any time you'd like to test that assumption, in the Real World and not from behind your monitor, just let me know.

I'll even buy your plane ticket and pick you up at the airport. Or, if you prefer I'll come to you. You can even bring Dragon with you.

But I will NOT follow you, on flaming steeds, into the putrid and skanky mists of neoconservatism!

LMFAOAY!!! Neo nut job. Now cry like a baby again because you believe I've threatened you.

Loud mouthed puss.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   20:56:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: Wood_Chopper (#142)

This definitely Nighthawk, I mean Mad Dog from LP.

No one else could even pretend to be that f**king stupid.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   20:58:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: goldeeluckx (#172)

I don't have the gift of seeing the future, what is it like?

Maybe Ron Paul will win? Oh yeah, he quit, during a NATIONAL race. The greys were going to kidnap his kids don't ya know?

LOL!

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   20:59:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: goldeeluckx (#173)

"Dude" get some new material.

Repeatedly debunked, and proven to be nothing but a F ing a LIE.

I won't waste another instant repeating it all to a new ignorant PDS insane idiot who wants to believe the LIES.

You are free to wonder just which ignorant PDS insane idiot that I'm talking about.

(All of YOU.)

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   21:04:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: weeps (#174)

LOL! What's up weeps? Finally growing a set?

You are just so d@mned butch. /NOT

"A very EASY question shill, when, where and which branch did you serve in shill?

Mine is ALL written and explained in my LP posting history, (go all the way back).

Now TRY to duck, spin, evade, deflect that very simple question shill.

(Remember that your time in the girl scouts and/or ACORN does not count shill).

We're STILL waiting for your answer to this simple honest question shill."

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   21:07:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: Mad Dog (#176)

I do have the gift of seeing the future. And what I see happening is that the Democrats have given us this nightmarish Universal Healthcare Plan that was originally started by Hillary Clinton back in the late 90's. This has many Republicans (and some Democrats pissed off). This has pissed off many true Republicans.

As a result, the Republican Party, much to the shame of Bush that damaged their reputation, is looking for a new representative to make them appear stable in economic stances, and to get America back on its feet. The problem is, the Republican Party has been infiltrated by those who "appear" to be Republican but not in their oaths, or practice but in name only. The Republicans are looking for somebody to save their party reputation. So, it looks like Palin is the answer to their problems because she appears to be this valiant and very brave woman to take on America's problems. The problem is that Palin is very weak on her stance on WHO the enemies are that want to do harm to the U.S., and also on the fact that the illegal aliens that are flooding into this country HATE Americans. Palin's strong critics, like myself, are NOT her enemies. Palin does not have to live with these illegal aliens that come into our neighborhoods, network with Social Security workers to steal social security benefits from our veterans and hard-working Americans like myself, and other benefits. This is a big problem. I just got my social security earnings record from the social security office the other day. I have worked for 22 years and TWICE discovered that the social security office has tried to screw me out of not one year, but 5 years of work history where I not only filed tax returns but paid social security taxes. I had to bring it to their attention for the second time, otherwise if I say nothing, I'm going to get screwed out of any benefits I am entitled to and it winds up going to some illegal aliens pockets.

Palin does not have a clue. She actually believes these illegals coming into the U.S. are here to work hard. I KNOW what these people are about because I lived in their neighborhoods. They truly despise Americans. We are at war with these people. It is up to the American people to observe not what Palin says but what she does.

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-27   21:21:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: goldeeluckx (#179)

It is up to the American people to observe not what Palin says but what she does.

Holy sh!t! I actually agree with you on THAT. When are you planning on starting?

All of that "amazing power" that you have, and yet you can't even get basic facts about governor Palin correct.

I hope that your warranty is still in force.

LMAO!

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   21:26:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: Mad Dog (#180)

I've been watching Palin ever since she came into the mainstream a year ago. And the first time I saw her, my thought was, "what a breath of fresh air". Then, I started to look at WHO was supporting her, Cheney, Bush, Bloomberg, when she suddenly stepped down from her position as governor. This bothered me a great deal because I am disgusted with the Republican Party. I'm not a Democrat either. Prefer to be totally Independent.

I don't trust Palin. And my way of reading people are usually right on without mixture of personal bias. I believe Palin would make a great candidate for a leader if she didn't use this notion that because she is a female and can shoot a gun, that she is the answer to our problems. If a candidate like Palin has to demonstrate her femaleness with Americans (which is really a crutch just like affirmative-action), to get us to adore and support her, she is dead wrong. I want to know where her head is on issues with China and Russia. I want to know what she plans to do about this notion on American jobs being exported overseas. Real serious issues!

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-27   21:41:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: goldeeluckx (#181)

I believe Palin would make a great candidate for a leader if she didn't use this notion that because she is a female and can shoot a gun, that she is the answer to our problems. If a candidate like Palin has to demonstrate her femaleness with Americans (which is really a crutch just like affirmative-action), to get us to adore and support her, she is dead wrong.

If all the time that you have been following her is just for a year, you simply don't "know" shit about Governor Palin. (I don't mean that as an insult to you, but to the so called "media" et. al.)

It's NOT her that makes such things "issues", they are simply TRUE. It is all of the enemies of America and Liberty, OUR enemies, who TRY to make such things an issue.

As to wanting to know what she believes and plans to do on real serious issues, I totally agree.

But all that is out there right now is a concerted effort to destroy her and her family in any way possible.

BOTH the demonRATs AND the repukelican't hate and FEAR her.

But no one person is America's salvation.

Unquestioning hero worship is for children, mental defectives, and SLAVES.

It has NO place in America.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   22:06:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: Mad Dog (#182)

If all the time that you have been following her is just for a year, you simply don't "know" shit about Governor Palin. (I don't mean that as an insult to you, but to the so called "media" et. al.)

Unquestioning hero worship is for children, mental defectives, and SLAVES.

No insult at all and you are CORRECT! I don't know WHO this woman is at all. That's just it. I don't even know what the hell she stands for at all. She's is vague. But I do know that she is not vague on her stance on illegals coming into this country. She is for it!

And as for your statement about unquestioning hero worship, there are no hero's in my book except Jesus Christ. I have NEVER needed to look for any other. But I certainly do reserve the right to question and observe public servants.

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-27   22:23:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: goldeeluckx (#183)

But I do know that she is not vague on her stance on illegals coming into this country. She is for it!

No you certainly do NOT "know" that.

I don't personally "know" her. But I'm an Alaskan who has lived here over thirty years. I live about fifty miles north of Wasilla. Wasilla is the closest "big" town.

I have been following her career since she was on the PTA. I do know people who grew up with her.

Governor Palin has NEVER supported any such thing as allowing illegal aliens into OUR country.

During a campaign where she was the VICE presidential candidate she said that she supported a "path to citizenship". She has never defined what such a path would entail to my knowledge.

So I won't make one up for her.

If she wanted all illegals deported and then made to get into line after all people who had never invaded OUR country, THAT would be one possible path to citizenship. You have to listen and parse every frikkin word that any politician says,

OUR enemies, who want to destroy her and her family at any cost, don't want you actually THINKING.

Of course I have the advantage of knowing who and what she really is, I can relax to some extent because of her past actions which I am famiilar with from direct experience. In no way do I always agree with her, the mere idea that such a thing is a requirement to support any politician is on it's face absurd imo.

But I do trust her to do her honest best, and to always do what she says that she will do, and NOT to ever put her self interests before this nation's and people's interests.

I agree with you in the main about Our Lord, but I have millions of heros, ALL of the the "ordinary" people who work hard and honestly to support themselves, their families and their way of life are ALL my heros.

You are also completely correct in your ABSOLUTE right and DUTY to question and "try" ALL politicians.

But these brain dead know nothing bitter PDS insane idiots who attack her and her FAMILY are tools of ALL of OUR enemies, and IMO base scum. (Because they attack HER FAMILY which is beyond the pale imo).

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   22:47:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: Mad Dog (#184)

No you certainly do NOT "know" that.

See my post #173 where I cited two pages to Palin being interviewed on her stance on pro-amnesty. She is for it and even said so herself. Read it, Mad Dog. Read it again. Straight from the source. I didn't make it up. She said it herself! Those are her words. She is FOR AMNESTY. And that makes her unsuitable for the presidency. Anybody who stands FOR amnesty of illegal aliens, is a traitor! Palin, just by her own admission, is telling Americans who she represents. And its not Americans.

Let Americans read that interview for themselves. If they want to discredit the source (Univision) then somebody needs to explain how Palin's statements got in there.

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-27   23:06:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: goldeeluckx (#185)

I HAVE read it, and I have explained about a F ing million times what she said.

Hell I just explained it again to you.

You need to be able to use that thing between your ears for something more than a hat rack.

You need to be able to THINK.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   23:14:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: Mad Dog (#186) (Edited)

I HAVE read it, and I have explained about a F ing million times what she said.

No need to insult, Mad Dog. It's obvious that you choose to ignore the fact what she actually stated. Your initial response to those posted interviews was that the interview was a lie!

I am familiar with Univision enough to know they have been around for some time. And when they interview American diplomats, they do so for the purpose of informing their people, the Latino population, what and where our American diplomats stand on international issues concerning NAFTA-GATT, trade issues with Mexico, drug cartel issues, and of course, amnesty.

And so far, that interview remains undisputed!

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-27   23:28:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: goldeeluckx (#187)

I'm NOT insulting, I'm stating a FACT.

"A" path is not a specific phrase.

My initial response was that the interpretation of what she actually said, was, and IS, a F ing LIE.

I'm NOT going to chew your food for you, or cut the crust off of your bread for you, and neither is Governor Palin.

A basic level of intelligence and comprehension is required by a free people who wish to maintain a republic. Maybe it's too late? So many so called adults seem to be incapable of even elementary levels of deductive thought and comprehension, or intellectual honesty.

Even though I donned my rain gear before getting into this, I'm done pi$$ing into the wind on this tonight.

Thanks for being civil, and NOT spit flecked PDS insane, I really do honestly appreciate it.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-28   0:07:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: Mad Dog (#188)

No the fact is you cannot accept the interview as being undisputed.

Palin IS FOR AMNESTY. If its a lie, Omnivision would have been sued a long time ago for impersonating Palin and making up interviews like this to put her in a false light.

The interview remains undisputed!

And I'm going to keep that interview because I have a feeling it will suddenly "disappear" around the time Palin runs for office.

Right now, most people are unaware of where Palin stands on illegal immigration. I've noticed that even Free Republic had referenced some of her quotes but not the full interview like this one. But Univision, and to those like myself and others informed about this, are not "in the dark" about where she stands. This interview will be brought up to her in two years from now and she will have some explaining to do to the American people. You see this immigration issue is KEY as to where one's loyalty stands with Americans.

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-28   0:19:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: Mad Dog (#188) (Edited)

"A" path is not a specific phrase.

Here. From my post #173, of that interview, pg 2, I quote that interview in part [emphasized for clarity]:

As governor, how do you deal with them? Do you think they all should be deported?

There is no way that in the US we would roundup every illegal immigrant -there are about 12 million of the illegal immigrants- not only economically is that just an impossibility but that's not a humane way anyway to deal with the issue that we face with illegal immigration.

Do you then favor an amnesty for the 12 or 13 million undocumented immigrants? No, I do not. I do not. Not total amnesty. You know, people have got to follow the rules. They've got to follow the bar, and we have got to make sure that there is equal opportunity and those who are here legally should be first in line for services being provided and those opportunities that this great country provides.

To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?

I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. To seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here. It is so important that yes, people follow the rules so that people can be treated equally and fairly in this country.

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The fact is, Palin is PRO AMNESTY. And because she is pro-amnesty, she supports illegal aliens coming into this country which violates our immigration laws. We either have laws in this country or we don't! You either go by the law or you are a traitor because when you allow illegals into this country you are aiding and abetting criminal aliens and possible potential terrorists! No if ands or buts about this!

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-28   0:45:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: goldeeluckx (#190)

Do you then favor an amnesty for the 12 or 13 million undocumented immigrants? No, I do not. I do not.

The fact is, Palin is PRO AMNESTY.

What the fook don't you inderstand about, " No, I do not. I do not."? Where the hell do you claim you were educated, Mexico?

The fact is, you are lite in the loafers.

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-28   1:55:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: goldeeluckx (#189)

Palin IS FOR AMNESTY. If its a lie, Omnivision would have been sued a long time ago

You're the one who is the liar.

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-28   1:57:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#193. To: goldeeluckx (#173)

www.univision.com/content...534&cid=1716304&pagenum=2

Question:

Do you then favor an amnesty for the 12 or 13 million undocumented immigrants?

Palin:

No, I do not. I do not.

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Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.

WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-28   2:03:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#194. To: goldeeluckx (#173)

Palin's not in office.

Someone you support Ron Paul, is.

Dr Ron Paul has voted three times for amnesty he is against any requirements /path for illegals to stay in the U.S.
To grant, extend or continue Section 245-i amnesties for illegal aliens
Paul voted in 1997( H.R. 1885)
2001( H.R. 1885)
2002 (H RES 365)

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Toss: ADL,CAIR and the Vatican into the pit they belong in.

WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-28   2:06:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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