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Title: Palin's own 'Climate-gate'
Source: Washington Poat
URL Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy ... /12/14/AR2009121402712_pf.html
Published: Dec 15, 2009
Author: Eugene Robinson
Post Date: 2009-12-19 15:37:36 by We The People
Keywords: None
Views: 37295
Comments: 224

By Eugene Robinson Tuesday, December 15, 2009

Sarah Palin is such a cold-eyed skeptic about the Copenhagen summit on climate change that it's no surprise she would call on President Obama not to attend. After all, Obama might join other leaders in acknowledging that warming is a "global challenge." He might entertain "opportunities to reduce greenhouse gas emissions." He might even explore ways to "participate in carbon-trading markets."

Oh, wait. Those quotes aren't from some smug Euro-socialist manifesto. They're from an administrative order Palin signed in September 2007, as governor of Alaska, establishing a "sub-Cabinet" of top state officials to develop a strategy for dealing with climate change.

Back then, Palin was the governor of a state where "coastal erosion, thawing permafrost, retreating sea ice, record forest fires, and other changes are affecting, and will continue to affect, the lifestyles and livelihoods of Alaskans," as she wrote. Faced with that reality, she sensibly formed the high-level working group to chart a course of action.

"Climate change is not just an environmental issue," wrote Palin. "It is also a social, cultural, and economic issue important to all Alaskans."

Palin mentioned having created the climate change unit in an op-ed she wrote last week for The Post. What she didn't acknowledge was the contrast between what she says about climate change now and what she said -- and did -- about it as governor of our most at-risk state. When she was in office, Palin treated the issue as serious, complex and worthy of urgent attention. Now that she's the iconic leader of a populist movement that reacts with anger at the slightest whiff of pointy-headed, "one world" intellectualism, she writes as if the idea of seeking ways to mitigate climate change is a crock.

"Alaska's climate is warming," Palin wrote to Alaskans in a July 2008 newsletter. "While there have been warming and cooling trends before, climatologists tell us that the current rate of warming is unprecedented within the time of human civilization. Many experts predict that Alaska, along with our northern latitude neighbors, will warm at a faster pace than any other areas, and the warming will continue for decades."

In her administrative order, Palin instructed the sub-Cabinet group to develop recommendations on "the opportunities to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from Alaska sources, including the expanded use of alternative fuels, energy conservation, energy efficiency, renewable energy, land use management, and transportation planning." She also instructed the group to look into "carbon-trading markets."

But in her op-ed last week, Palin -- while acknowledging "natural, cyclical environmental trends" and the possibility that human activity might be contributing to warming -- states flatly that "any potential benefits of proposed emissions reduction policies are far outweighed by their economic costs." What she once called "carbon-trading markets" she now denounces as "the Democrats' cap-and-tax proposal."

Palin cites the "Climate-gate" e-mail scandal as reason enough for the president to skip the Copenhagen summit. I've written about those e-mails and why, despite what skeptics say, they do not begin to prove that climate science is fraudulent, politicized or fundamentally flawed. The most compelling evidence for climate change is found in the Arctic, and Palin has seen it firsthand.

In her 2008 newsletter, Palin mentioned one coastal village, Newtok, that would have to be relocated because of flooding due to the effects of warmer temperatures. Since then, relocation plans have been developed for two more towns, Shishmaref and Kivalina. The Army Corps of Engineers has identified more than 160 villages that are threatened, according to a recent newsletter from Palin's successor, Gov. Sean Parnell. At least 31 are judged to be in "imminent" peril.

In case anyone was wondering, Palin's home town of Wasilla sits at an elevation of 333 feet -- high and dry.

The chairman of the Cabinet working group that Palin assembled to develop a climate change strategy, Larry Hartig, is scheduled to deliver a presentation at Copenhagen. Posted in advance on the Internet, the presentation shows that Alaskans aren't just fretting about the abstract possibility of effects from warming. They're dealing with a real, live situation.

I predict we'll see more artful dodges of this kind from Palin. She made any number of pragmatic, reasonable, smart decisions as governor -- and now, it seems, will be obliged to renounce them all. Her tea-party legions have one answer -- a shouted "No!" -- for every question.

Palin knows better, but she has to fiddle her followers' chosen tune -- not while Rome burns, but while Nome melts.

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#1. To: We The People (#0)

That's gonna leave a mark! I did a google search and found the original PDF document. Palin really did put this out.

Abcdefg  posted on  2009-12-19   15:44:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: We The People (#0)

Unlike Our President of Chicago:

Her concern as National leader will not be bound to one State.

Good for her.

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-19   15:47:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: We The People (#0)

It must be said that as part of McCain/Palin, she also supported cap and trade.


Always look on the bright side of life.

Bickus Dickus  posted on  2009-12-19   15:49:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Bickus Dickus, sneakypete, war (#3)

she also supported cap and trade.

Blasphemy!

It was hard to believe but I saw sneakypete turn on her the other day.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2009-12-19   15:59:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: We The People, ALL (#0)

LOL!

While the messiah "king" obammy is busy KILLING America all day EVERY day, this specious bullsh!t is what the jealous paulTARD weeps and his ilk find "important".

Governor Palin SCARES them that much.

Well dry out your tutu weeps, (maybe you should put a new one on, that one smells of pi$$), I hear that TMZ is looking for writers weeps.

Because what is REALLY important is "what is Governor Palin wearing?" /S

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-19   16:02:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: We The People (#0)

In case anyone was wondering, Palin's home town of Wasilla sits at an elevation of 333 feet -- high and dry.

No, no one's wondering about the elevation of Wasilla, but we are wondering about just how how high the author was when he wrote this...OR Weepy when he posted this to "discredit" his favorite OCD project, Sarah Palin.

Weeps, are you gettin' your Chris Matthews-tingle" on yet?

Yeah, WOW! What a "revelation" about Sarah Palin. How will she ever extricate herself outta THIS mess? Somebody flash the Bat Signal, quick.

(yawn)

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-19   16:27:56 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Mad Dog (#5)

While the messiah "king" obammy is busy KILLING America all day EVERY day, this specious bullsh!t is what the jealous paulTARD weeps and his ilk find "important".

Governor Palin SCARES them that much.

Yeah, THAT'S my observation too.

Hey Weeps - BOOO!!! (it's Sarah Palin in the news again, and she didn't refer to McStain as "McStain"!!)

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-19   16:30:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: WhiteSands (#2)

Unlike Our President of Chicago...

Bwahaa!

The Kenyan Marxist Community Organizer is tearing America a new A-Hole in Macy's window, yet the Weeples are busy gnashing their teeth over Palin's "100%" acknowledgment and support of McCain and that nebulous, undefined "path."

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-19   16:38:22 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Liberator (#8) (Edited)

The "Constitutionalists­"®, "Patriots"™ and 3rd party posters shall care more about this then the violation of the 14th Amendment to secure Nelsons vote for Heath Care.

Proving that they are ACORN/KOS posters.

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-19   16:46:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: We The People (#0)

Palin wrote to Alaskans in a July 2008

17 months ago! Palin has learned more in that period of time than you have in a lifetime, wimp!

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-19   17:01:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: WhiteSands (#9) (Edited)

The "Constitutionalists­"®, "Patriots"™ and 3rd party posters shall care more about this then the violation of the 14th Amendment to secure Nelsons vote for Heath Care.

Proving that they are ACORN/KOS posters.

True...(who's Nelson and who cares what HE wears??)

Nelson sells us all out on the 0bamaCare debacle, yet Palin's a sell out and responsible for this because....Nelson = McCain = Palin = 0bama = Nelson...

I wouldn't be surprised if the Palin 'Visorgate' "scandal" was created to divert attention away from Nelson and the DeathCare voting.

Now THAT'S a "scandal."

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-19   17:44:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: We The People (#0)

Author: Eugene Robinson

Searches related to Eugene Robinson.......

rachel maddow....... maureen dowd

You must be so proud, fookin idiot!!!

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-19   18:38:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: We The People (#0)

"Alaska's climate is warming," Palin wrote to Alaskans in a July 2008 newsletter. "While there have been warming and cooling trends before, climatologists tell us that the current rate of warming is unprecedented within the time of human civilization. Many experts predict that Alaska, along with our northern latitude neighbors, will warm at a faster pace than any other areas, and the warming will continue for decades."

In her administrative order, Palin instructed the sub-Cabinet group to develop recommendations on "the opportunities to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from Alaska sources, including the expanded use of alternative fuels, energy conservation, energy efficiency, renewable energy, land use management, and transportation planning." She also instructed the group to look into "carbon-trading markets."

Man the hits they just keep a'comin.

This chick is nothing more than a stupid political opportunist.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2009-12-19   18:55:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Mad Dog (#5)

Poor Pissy Poodle.

I know you must be pining away without yukon to keep you warm, so I found the next best thing for you.


Always look on the bright side of life.

Bickus Dickus  posted on  2009-12-19   19:26:22 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Mad Dog, Liberator, Iblusomebody (#5)

Well, here's yet another stain on the conservative dress of your neoqueen.

And instead of addressing the facts of the article and the truth about your neoqueen, you Palintards attack the author and attack me for posting the story! (ALINSKY!)

You useful idiots will do anything and say anything to protect the imaginary honor of just another establishment, RINO, neoconservative who has not ONE shred of conservative credentials. Amazing!

For a path to citizenship.

For the bailouts.

Loves and supports McCain 100%.

Swallowed the 'climate change' bullshit hook, line and sinker.

Well, she has shown you who she really is, whether or not you decide to support her (100% LMAO!) is up to you.

For the record, your comments so far also show who you really are, which is why it's impossible to take any of you seriously.

But count on one thing, every time I see any of you call yourselves conservatives, I'll be right there to remind you of just how full of shit you are! ;o)

Merry Christmas!

We The People  posted on  2009-12-19   19:26:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Liberator (#11)

Nelson sells us all out on the 0bamaCare debacle,

To expect anything different shows an incredible level of gullibility.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-19   19:28:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: We The People (#15)

Yet you support Paul an open border free tarde libertarian.

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-19   19:36:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Fred Mertz (#4)

It was hard to believe but I saw sneakypete turn on her the other day.

She's been a 100% RNC tool from the day she accepted being McCain's running mate and signing on to everything he stands for.

I don't know why it's taken so many people so long to figure that out.

Bickus Dickus  posted on  2009-12-19   19:37:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Bickus Dickus (#18)

And you Dickus are an ACRON tool like all the fake Patriots and Constitutionalists here.

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-19   19:43:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: WhiteSands (#19)

And you Dickus are an ACRON tool

Like you know anything about me.

I don't like Palin, therefore I'm an ACRON(sic) tool blah blah blah.

When you don't have anything intelligent to say, just call people names, right Whitey?

Bickus Dickus  posted on  2009-12-19   19:47:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Bickus Dickus (#20)

Dick you are a 100% ACORN.

Not one bad thing to say about Obama, just EVERY republican.

You are a fraud poster for ACORN.

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-19   19:49:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: WhiteSands (#21)

Not one bad thing to say about Obama, just EVERY republican.

That's really funny. I had no expectations of Obama being anything other that what he is, so why spend every day whining about it?

This isn't a thread about Obama or every Republican. It's a thread about PALIN.

And since people like you want to ram Palin down our throats, it's more than legitimate for her opponents to fight back.

Bickus Dickus  posted on  2009-12-19   19:55:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: WhiteSands (#17)

Yet you support Paul an open border free tarde libertarian.

I don't know why I even bother to respond to your either dishonest or uninformed opinions, or your attempts to deflect and side track the conversation, but here goes anyway:

I do support Paul, but he is not an open border free trade libertarian.

I support his wanting to end welfare, birthright citizenship and jobs for illegals. I support him because he was against the bailouts, the federal reserve, the Iraq war, etc.

I don't agree with Paul on all of his views, but he's the closest thing there is in American government to a real conservative.

But this article isn't about Paul. Would you like to address the substance of this article, or is that taboo for you? This article is about Palin. If you want to discuss Paul you should post a Paul article.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-19   19:59:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Mad Dog, Liberator, Palo Verde, *Hypocrisy and Hypocrites* (#0)

Ping

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   20:00:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: WhiteSands (#2)

Unlike Our President of Chicago:

Her concern as National leader will not be bound to one State.

C'mon,Yukie! You and Palin lead us all in a couple of verses of:

"We iz da wurld....

We iz da peep-pulls..."

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   20:01:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: We The People (#23) (Edited)

Ahh a Freedom worshiper that dictates free speech.

Got it.

See this is why I usually don't post to you, you are a 100% fraud.

Yes Sarah as Governor HAD one set of responsibilities.

As President they become a bit wider.

This is why 3% politicians fail. They are regional in thinking.

Tell me, is there any living person you do support?

I have never see you an any single anti DNC thread.

Not One.

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-19   20:02:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Fred Mertz (#4)

t was hard to believe but I saw sneakypete turn on her the other day.

I didn't turn on her. She turned on me.

Fred,you have been watching me post for around 10 years now. Why do you still doubt that I put America and what I consider to be best for America first,above all else?

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   20:03:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: sneakypete (#25)

"We iz da wurld....

We iz da peep-pulls..."

Sorry Skydrifter,

I don't know Ebonics.

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-19   20:05:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Mad Dog (#5)

While the messiah "king" obammy is busy KILLING America all day EVERY day, this specious bullsh!t is what the jealous paulTARD weeps and his ilk find "important".

Did she say or write those things,or not?

Yes,or no?

Attacking Ron Paul ain't going to bail you out on this one. He has nothing to do with this unless you think he has his hand up her butt and is pulling her strings.

DID Palin say or write these things or not?

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   20:05:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: sneakypete (#29)

DID Palin say or write these things or not?

“Why is Governor Schwarzenegger pushing for the same sorts of policies in Copenhagen that have helped drive his state into record deficits and unemployment?

Perhaps he will recall that I live in our nation’s only Arctic state and that I was among the first governors to create a sub-cabinet to deal specifically with climate change.

While I and all Alaskans witness the impacts of changes in weather patterns firsthand, I have repeatedly said that we can’t primarily blame man’s activities for those changes.

And while I did look for practical responses to those changes, what I didn’t do was hamstring Alaska’s job creators with burdensome regulations so that I could act “greener than thou” when talking to reporters.

- Sarah Palin

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-19   20:07:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Ibluafartsky (#10)

17 months ago! Palin has learned more in that period of time than you have in a lifetime, wimp!

Really? Are you saying she DID write and say those things,but that she has learned and "evolved" since then?

If you are,I'd really like to see the press conference or the transcripts of her refuting her earlier words.

Surely you have the URL's for these important pieces of information that will clear her good name and reputation?

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   20:09:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: All (#30)

Again as I correctly predicted:

This thread will be of greater issue than Obamacare

Becasue the site is filled with DNC posters that pose as Patriots® and Constitutionalists™.

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-19   20:09:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: sneakypete (#31) (Edited)

Her focus has changed from being a Sate Gov.

Learning seems foreign to you Skydrifter.

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-19   20:11:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Liberator (#11)

I wouldn't be surprised if the Palin 'Visorgate' "scandal" was created to divert attention away from Nelson and the DeathCare voting.

What are you saying? Do you think Palin said what she said in order to give Bubba Barry political cover by shifting the focus of the voters to her?

Or are you one of the ones that don't believe your lying eyes and your lying ears?

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   20:11:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: sneakypete (#34)

Not ONE Patriot® or Constitutionalists on this thread cares:

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5522

Telling us who they work for :ACORN.

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-19   20:13:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: WhiteSands (#17)

Yet you support Paul an open border free tarde libertarian.

And you support Palin on open borders. What's the difference? Why is Paul evil for voting for open borders (it's not that simple and you know it),yet it's peachy-keen for Palin to go on Telemundo and do everything but wave Pom Poms for the La Raza crowd?

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   20:15:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: sneakypete (#36)

At least try and look like a conservative.

Once a month post something bad about Obama.

Just once a month ACRON Worker.

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-19   20:17:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: WhiteSands (#28)

Sorry Skydrifter,

I don't know Ebonics.

You have the incredible stupidity to call ME skydrifter????

No wonder you are a blind RINO and Palin supporter. You are too stupid to be anything else.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   20:18:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: WhiteSands (#30)

DID Palin say or write these things or not?

“Why is Governor Schwarzenegger pushing for the same sorts of policies in Copenhagen that have helped drive his state into record deficits and unemployment?

Perhaps he will recall that I live in our nation’s only Arctic state and that I was among the first governors to create a sub-cabinet to deal specifically with climate change.

While I and all Alaskans witness the impacts of changes in weather patterns firsthand, I have repeatedly said that we can’t primarily blame man’s activities for those changes.

And while I did look for practical responses to those changes, what I didn’t do was hamstring Alaska’s job creators with burdensome regulations so that I could act “greener than thou” when talking to reporters.

- Sarah Palin

Thank you for that quote,but you still did not answer my questions.

DID SHE OR DID SHE NOT SAY OR WRITE THOSE THINGS?

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   20:19:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: WhiteSands (#32)

Becasue the site is filled with DNC posters that pose as Patriots® and Constitutionalists™.

Yes,and most of them are RINO's.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   20:20:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: WhiteSands (#33)

Her focus has changed from being a Sate Gov.

Yes,it has. Now she wants to be a RINO President.

Learning seems foreign to you Skydrifter.

And you are too fucking stupid to learn if you think I'm skydrifter.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   20:22:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: sneakypete (#39) (Edited)

I had stated earlier in the thread that she 100% did say those things.

That was her saying those things.

Sarah said those things.

Those are Sarah positions, as regional govenor of a state.

One had better not employ regional needs to govern and nation that's the size of the US. ----

Can you post to 6 posts in which you attack Obama or any DNC member?

You are a 100% fraud Sky drifter - 100% phony.

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-19   20:23:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: We The People (#15)

Iblusomebody

Swallowed

You're a fookin faggot?

Bragging or complaining?

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-19   20:24:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: WhiteSands (#37)

At least try and look like a conservative.

I AM a conservative,retard. I don't have to pretend like you,Boy Jorge,John McLunatic,or Palin.

Once a month post something bad about Obama.

Just once a month ACRON Worker.

Good catch! I've never posted anything critical of Barry. Why did I think I could outsmart somebody with your powers of reason and observation?

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   20:25:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: sneakypete (#41)

And you are too fucking stupid to learn if you think I'm skydrifter.

ahh you lose with your emo meltdown Skydrifter - You did better with Ebonics.

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-19   20:25:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Bickus Dickus (#18)

I don't know why it's taken so many people so long to figure that out.

I would never believe a word you post, little dickus. I figured you out with your first post.

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-19   20:26:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: WhiteSands (#45)

ahh you lose with your emo meltdown Skydrifter - You did better with Ebonics.

PLEASE don't quit posting. I want you to be a poster boy for the type of "intellect" that backs Palin.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   20:28:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: sneakypete (#44)

I AM a conservative,retard.

No evidence exists at this board that you dislike the DNC. Link to 6 posts in which you find any fault with a DNC member.

Fraud- 100%.

Stick with your party. They will get you: money, food,health care, much needed medications and next cars.

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-19   20:28:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: sneakypete (#47)

You are the Intellect that gave Obama victory!

It's no wonder you know ebonics so well.

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-19   20:29:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: We The People (#23)

But this article isn't about Paul.

the substance of this article,

An article written by a leftist in the same school as Rachel Maddow and Maureen Dowd and you suck it right on down like a good kool-aid drinker.

What is the substance?

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-19   20:30:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Ibluafartsky, We The People (#50) (Edited)

Like a good comrade they work hard to define speech.

I challenge ANYONE to find 5 posts in which Wee the People finds fault with the DNC.

ANYONE.

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-19   20:32:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: WhiteSands (#48)

No evidence exists at this board that you dislike the DNC.

No evidence exists at this board that you're not a child molester. Link to 6 posts to prove otherwise.

God, Whitey, you are dumb. No wonder Goldi likes you.

Bickus Dickus  posted on  2009-12-19   20:33:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: sneakypete (#31)

Surely you have the URL's for these important pieces of information that will clear her good name and reputation?

Right after you present the one where you claim she claims she supports amnesty for all.

"While I and all Alaskans witness the impacts of changes in weather patterns firsthand, I have repeatedly said that we can’t primarily blame man’s activities for those changes. " Sarah Palin

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-19   20:35:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Bickus Dickus (#52) (Edited)

When LP gets back up you'll find a few hundred anti Child Porn and Child threads.

IF discussion of Child Porn and or Child Molestation were discussed Topics here, you'd find me.

Try again.

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5524

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-19   20:38:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: WhiteSands (#42)

I had stated earlier in the thread that she 100% did say those things.

My apologies. I missed that.

That was her saying those things.

Sarah said those things.

Those are Sarah positions, as regional govenor of a state.

Ok,so was she lying then,or is she lying now?

One had better not employ regional needs to govern and nation that's the size of the US. ----

You mean her beliefs are dependent on which office she is running for?

Can you post to 6 posts in which you attack Obama or any DNC member?

Ya got me! What gave me away?

You are a 100% fraud Sky drifter - 100% phony.

Says the RINO that likes to pretend he is a Independent,and spent 8 years with his nose buried up Boy Jorge's ass.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   20:45:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: WhiteSands (#48)

No evidence exists at this board that you dislike the DNC.

PLEASE keep bragging all over the internet about being one of Palin's biggest supporters.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   20:47:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: WhiteSands (#49)

You are the Intellect that gave Obama victory!

It's no wonder you know ebonics so well.

Admit it. You would pay him for the honor of blowing him if he had a R behind his name.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   20:48:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: WhiteSands (#54)

You just don't get it, do you?

No one here has to prove anything to you, ever.

Bickus Dickus  posted on  2009-12-19   20:49:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Ibluafartsky (#53)

Right after you present the one where you claim she claims she supports amnesty for all.

Ok,Buckwheat,so why don't YOU tell us all what "a path to citizenship for undocumented workers" means?

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   20:50:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: sneakypete (#59)

why don't YOU tell us all what "a path to citizenship for undocumented workers" means?

Right after you present the one where you claim she claims she supports amnesty for all. Why can't you post it?

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-19   20:55:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: We The People (#0)

I personally believe in climate change. I've hugged more Bunnies that Al Gore could ever dream of. And drive a '94 Miata, take normal air fares and not an SUV or a private jet. But believe is the proper word as it cannot be proven. So why take a chance that could alter the entire ecosystem.

But these globalists are not really interested in stopping greenhouse gases or anything else to help the environment. If they were, China would not be exporting anything. There would be no global market and no open borders.

Anyway, a couple of pics for the Bush-Palin Bots:

Moderate Mammal  posted on  2009-12-19   21:12:59 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: WhiteSands, sneakypete (#42)

One had better not employ regional needs to govern and nation that's the size of the US. ----

Can you post to 6 posts in which you attack Obama or any DNC member?

You are a 100% fraud Sky drifter - 100% phony.

Piss on you Whitedick.

We don't need to attack Obama as we all agree he's a turd.

The only problem is that the cult members on this board, with you being the leader, can't see what a friggin Rino this gal is, and stupid to boot.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2009-12-19   22:16:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: sneakypete (#57)

WhiteSands

You are the Intellect that gave Obama victory! It's no wonder you know ebonics so well.

Admit it. You would pay him for the honor of blowing him if he had a R behind his name.

ON TARGET! FIRE FOR EFFECT!!!

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2009-12-19   22:20:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Moderate Mammal (#61)

I personally believe in climate change.

I also believe in climate change. Our climate has been changing since the formation of the Earth, long before man ever walked here.

I also believe in conserving energy, but for the simple reason that energy costs are ridiculous.

I believe this entire green/enviro movement is just another fraud designed to institute global governance and separate me from more of my money.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-20   10:47:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: WhiteSands (#51)

Like a good comrade they work hard to define speech.

You've still got free speech. You are free to say anything you'd like. I'm not affecting your free speech at all. I'm just going to tell you that you are full of shit whenever you call yourself a conservative. See, I have freedom of speech also.

I challenge ANYONE to find 5 posts in which Wee the People finds fault with the DNC.

ANYONE.

I'll give you one right here. The DNC and Obama are dyed in the wool socialists and communists, enemies of and traitors to America. I know what to expect from that crowd and I don't need to comment on it to satisfy you.

The point of this entire conversation is that YOU are supporting someone, as a supposed conservative, who supports the same positions!

I do believe that Sarah wants to run as and be a conservative. But I also believe that she has no idea what that entails or what side of positions she should be on to attract conservatives. She cannot come out and say these things, things the DNC AND RNC are pushing for, and expect to be considered a conservative!

And her followers/fans/supporters/worshipers can't expect to be considered conservatives either.

Her fans are like some cult of personality, attacking anything or anyone critical of her, even if it's TRUE! EVEN IF IT'S HER OWN WORDS!

We The People  posted on  2009-12-20   11:02:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: We The People (#65)

[Palin's] followers/fans/supporters/worshipers can't expect to be considered conservatives either.

Don't expect that you remotely be considered intellectually honest either.

SUGGESTION: Establish a new party - the "Tooth Fairy Conservative Party."

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-20   11:10:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Liberator (#66)

Suggestion for you:

Lose the insults. It shows an incredible amount of frustration, which means that you believe you are losing the debate. Which you already have.

Pretend to be a conservative to someone else. You're not convincing me.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-20   11:24:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Ibluafartsky (#50)

An article written by a leftist in the same school as Rachel Maddow and Maureen Dowd and you suck it right on down like a good kool-aid drinker.

Nice! Sorry, but your attempts at deflection away from the substance of the article have failed.

Have you forgotten? These comments ARE PALIN'S OWN WORDS, not comments taken out of context and spun by a leftist news source.

What is the substance? It's right here:

"Oh, wait. Those quotes aren't from some smug Euro-socialist manifesto. They're from an administrative order Palin signed in September 2007, as governor of Alaska, establishing a "sub-Cabinet" of top state officials to develop a strategy for dealing with climate change."

The substance is also Palin's stance on a 'path to citizenship', her adoration and 100% support for John McCain, her support of the bailouts, etc.

The substance is...the woman is not a conservative.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-20   11:31:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: We The People (#68)

These comments ARE PALIN'S OWN WORDS,

Wow, over 2 years ago as governor!!!! Desperation on the part of the lefties, and you Palinhaters gladly and lustily drinking the kool-aid!

They're from an administrative order Palin signed in September 2007, as governor of Alaska,

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-20   15:50:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Ibluafartsky (#69)

Wow, over 2 years ago as governor!!!!

Desperation on the part of the lefties, and you Palinhaters gladly and lustily drinking the kool-aid!

Was it 2 years ago that she said she 'adores John McCain and supports him 100%"?

Desperation, Palinhaters, gladly and lustily, koolaid, etc are all hyperbole. I don't hate Palin. I just don't support those who lean left.

Bottom line, the woman is no conservative. Anyone who says she is, is either being dishonest or ignorant.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-20   16:09:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: We The People (#70)

Was it 2 years ago that she said she 'adores John McCain and supports him 100%"?

Bottom line, the woman is no conservative. Anyone who says she is, is either being dishonest or ignorant.

Have you ever been married?

Sarah Palin is a conservative. Anyone who says she isn't is a fookin, uninformed ignoramus.

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-20   16:15:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: We The People (#67)

Suggestion for you:

Lose the insults. It shows an incredible amount of frustration, which means that you believe you are losing the debate. Which you already have.

SUGGESTION:

Help me take you seriously.

When you prove that you've attained "reality nirvana," then we can properly exchange ideas and debate without me having to shout up to you in your Ivory Tower.

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-20   19:24:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Mad Dog (#5)

Governor Palin I QUIT SCARES them that much.

That's better...

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2009-12-21   9:08:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Liberator (#72)

When you prove that you've attained "reality nirvana,"

You just don't get it do you lib?

Now you're speaking to me about 'reality'. Just up thread you talk about nuances and shades of gray.

You're holding out hope, IN SPITE OF EVERYTHING THE WOMAN HAS SAID OUT OF HER OWN MOUTH, that Palin is just playing the RINO's for chumps and is presenting some grand illusion to gain votes and popularity among conservatives by stating positions that make conservatives cringe.

You're holding out hope that she doesn't 'adore John McCain and support him 100%' in spite of her own words.

You're holding out hope that she doesn't really 'support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants' in spite of her own words.

You're holding out hope that she doesn't support the bailouts, in spite of her own words.

You're holding out hope that she's not hispandering, in spite of her own words.

You're 'just going to have to wait and see' and 'let this all play out' before coming to a conclusion.

And you have the audacity to speak to me about reality?

Now THAT is funny!

We The People  posted on  2009-12-21   9:37:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: We The People (#70)

Was it 2 years ago that she said she 'adores John McCain and supports him 100%"?

I'm willing to bet that what they say she said isn't exactely what she said. The quote is un-original and I have seen it before.


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mel  posted on  2009-12-21   10:28:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: mel (#75)

I'm willing to bet that what they say she said isn't exactely what she said. The quote is un-original and I have seen it before.

You'd lose, Mel:

Palin said in the statement to POLITICO: “I am so sorry if people took this silly incident the wrong way. I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago. So much for trying to be incognito."

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2009-12-21   12:22:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: mel (#75)

I'm willing to bet that what they say she said isn't exactely what she said.

Palin said in the statement to POLITICO: “I am so sorry if people took this silly incident the wrong way. I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/30699.html

I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection.

http://www.daylife.com/quote/09Br6Cq35C1FL

"I am so sorry if people took this silly incident the wrong way. I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent," she said. AP

http://www.suntimes.com/news/pol...9,CST-NWS-palin19.article

Palin 'brims' with Mac pride

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his re-election.

"As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in DC just a week ago.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nat...yNh6JXi6pKJ#ixzz0aLRFVeMa

Really?

On what issue mel? Just this one where she said she adores McCain and supports him 100%?

Or when she said she supports a path to citizenship?

Or when she said the bailouts were needed and a good idea?

We The People  posted on  2009-12-21   12:23:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: war (#76)

I understand that is the statement Politico claims to have quoted her saying.

I also understand that when reporters quote some people, the quote is not always what was said.


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mel  posted on  2009-12-21   12:34:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: We The People (#74)

You just don't get it do you lib?

I prefer reality; You prefer delusion - what's not to "get"?

Now you're speaking to me about 'reality'. Just up thread you talk about nuances and shades of gray.

I apologize for the redundancy, but there a few issues within the political realm that can be addressed as "black" or "white" - rhetorically speaking.

You're holding out hope, IN SPITE OF EVERYTHING THE WOMAN HAS SAID OUT OF HER OWN MOUTH, that Palin is just playing the RINO's for chumps and is presenting some grand illusion to gain votes and popularity among conservatives by stating positions that make conservatives cringe.

And while you're still fantasizing about "President Paul," your positions remain ossified regarding Sarah Palin, while characterizing her as a RINO discredits you immediately as an honest observer.

You're holding out hope that she doesn't 'adore John McCain and support him 100%' in spite of her own words.

No - I realy believe what she said; It's a matter of context though; YOU construed her words to mean she's a McCain disciple. Hardly. It's been proven MANY of her views clash with McCain's. But do continue with your delusions...

You're holding out hope that she doesn't really 'support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants' in spite of her own words.

Again, I believe what she said; However in YOUR mind it means "Amnesty." (HINT: Palin's already said 'NO AMNESTY.")

The reality is EVERYONE outside the US potentially has a "path" to US citizenship. You have NO idea what Palin means by mentioning this nebulous "path," and neither does anyone else.

You're holding out hope that she doesn't support the bailouts, in spite of her own words.

Her "own words" admitted ANY support given was based on "The economy will collapse if we don't!" warnings from Dubya and "experts" last year. You also seem to forget she was not privy to the data as actual Senators and members of the House were.

You're holding out hope that she's not hispandering, in spite of her own words.

She softened her tone, true. But since she's NOT a policy-maker, whose lobbyists' pockets is she in? She sure didn't mince words about "NO AMNESTY" - did she?

You're 'just going to have to wait and see' and 'let this all play out' before coming to a conclusion.

And you have the audacity to speak to me about reality?

Now THAT is funny!

So let's wrap this up, shall we?

You believe in Tooth Fairy candidates, thought Ron Paul was the ultimate truth-teller and policy-maker.

You believe in a Grand Conspiracy that Sarah Palin is some kind of globalist plant; After all the non-stop attacks grief she's taken from both the GOP and Dims and media? Chyeah, right.

Her political history in Alaska of fighting the establishment, her refreshing honesty and demeanor, her independent nature, her fundamental understanding of "America", her untainted-DC Onsider status, and her real connection with We-The-People (shame on you for using that handle) is demonstratively and singularly unique in American politics.

It is your prerogative as it is others to hang your hat on this absurd equation:

Palin = RINO = McCain = Bush = 0bama = NWO.

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-21   12:43:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Liberator (#79)

You believe in Tooth Fairy candidates

You believe in a Grand Conspiracy that Sarah Palin is some kind of globalist plant

Her political history in Alaska of fighting the establishment, her refreshing honesty and demeanor, her independent nature, her fundamental understanding of "America", her untainted-DC Onsider status, and her real connection with We-The-People (shame on you for using that handle) is demonstratively and singularly unique in American politics.

Good God.

I give up Lib. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

I do enjoy the debates though. Thanks.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-21   12:55:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: mel (#78)

Do you have any evidence to the contrary. She's very quick to point out when she's been misquoted...

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2009-12-21   13:31:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: We The People, mel, war, sneakypete (#77)

"I am so sorry if people took this silly incident the wrong way. I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent," she said. AP

As I asked sneakypete previously, "Have you ever been married?"

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-21   15:08:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Ibluafartsky (#82)

As I asked sneakypete previously, "Have you ever been married?"

Yeah, you asked me too and I ignored you because your analogy is ridiculous and is in NO way a pass for saying this kind of thing about John McCain, IF you want to be seen as a conservative and not a scumbag, illegal alien loving, neocon, free traitor.

Listen, she said it, she meant it, now you deal with it.

If she's your candidate of choice for 2012, then support her proudly. Even as she stumps for McCain in 2010.

I'll just stand back and laugh and point out your leftist choices.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-21   15:17:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Ibluafartsky (#82)

Have a great night yukon!

And Merry Christmas!

We The People  posted on  2009-12-21   15:22:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: We The People (#83)

Listen, she said it, she meant it,

Yeah, you asked me too and I ignored you

If she's your candidate of choice for 2012,

Yeah, so why are there so many divorces?

You did so it means you're either divorced or a fag.

If she is even a candidate. But hey, don't allow your misogyny to spoil your Holiday! 2012 is a long way off.

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-21   15:28:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: We The People (#84)

Have a great night yukon!

Night? Where is it now night in the US? Where are you posting from, a muslim country?

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-21   15:29:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: war (#81)

Do you have any evidence to the contrary. She's very quick to point out when she's been misquoted...

Unlike some - I don't spend every moment awake following Sarah's every move. I've heard the McCain part of that quote before - when she was his running mate. So no, I don't have any evidence one way or the other. I do know some of the things she has said about McCain and not agreeing with him 100% of the time.

I do have evidence that the media tends to misquote, misinterpret, and take out of context on a regular basis.

Why people want to examine her every word is beyond me. Sometimes we say things just to be polite, even if it's not exactly how we feel. I'm sure you've told your wife she looks great in something you thought she looked ridiculous in.


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mel  posted on  2009-12-21   18:50:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Ibluafartsky (#82)

As I asked sneakypete previously, "Have you ever been married?"

And it might have been more appropriate to have asked "Have you ever been divorced?" because she is no longer McLunatic's partner.

She just seems to be a fan nowadays.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-21   19:23:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: mel (#87)

I've heard the McCain part of that quote before - when she was his running mate.

She said what I provided AFTER the campaign was over.

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2009-12-22   8:25:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Ibluafartsky (#82)

As I asked sneakypete previously, "Have you ever been married?"

Yep.

Have YOU ever had a banana in yer tailpipe?

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2009-12-22   8:26:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: war (#89)

She said what I provided AFTER the campaign was over.

Allegedly - according to Politico - You'll have to forgive me if I have trouble believing everything I hear in the media. In fact, remember a couple of people had stated Obama was born in different places - according to the media. IS that true too since the media said so? Didn't think so. Why is it such a big deal anyway?


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mel  posted on  2009-12-22   11:22:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: mel (#91)

In fact, remember a couple of people had stated Obama was born in different places - according to the media.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc.

There's no reason to disbelieve one set of reporting over an issue by one outlet because of the misreporting of another.

Then again, Palinites had the same issue with what The Virgin Sarah said to both Gibson and Couric even in the face of a video record - not that you were one of them.

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2009-12-22   11:44:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: war (#92)

Then again, Palinites had the same issue with

Come on war, lets be fair.

Then again, Palinites Palintards had the same issue with....

There, I fixed it for you.

Anyone claiming to be a conservative, yet supporting an obvious neoconservative is definitely a 'tard'.

Turnabout IS fair play after all.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-22   11:50:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: war (#92)

There's no reason to disbelieve one set of reporting over an issue by one outlet because of the misreporting of another.

Thank you, Dan Rather.

(do you ever read your own posts?)

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-22   12:04:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: We The People (#93)

And there he is...like a moth drawn to the flame.

LOL...

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-22   12:05:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Liberator (#94)

What Rather reported was never disputed by boy Blunder.

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2009-12-22   13:32:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: war (#92)

You believe Politico never misreports. I know better. Why is it such a big deal anyway?


Click if you want the truth. Click here for an important video message

mel  posted on  2009-12-22   13:44:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: mel (#97)

You believe Politico never misreports.

I've stated that belief where?

Why is it such a big deal anyway?

It isn't to me...

No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...

war  posted on  2009-12-22   14:06:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Liberator (#95)

And there he is...like a moth drawn to the flame.

Yeah?

And there you are too.

So.......shall I get back to embarrassing you by pointing out that you and your fav candidate for 2012 are not conservative?

We The People  posted on  2009-12-22   14:26:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: war (#90)

Have YOU ever had a banana in yer tailpipe?

No, I'm not a fag, pony boy.

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-22   15:05:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Bickus Dickus (#14)

You must be really lonely dickus lickus.

You play with dolls and stuffed toys?

Figures.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   16:23:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: We The People (#15)

Weeps you really crack me up!

YOU and the rest of your paulTARD kin don't get to define "Conservatism" or decide who is or is not a Conservative.

ROTFLMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

QUICK! get your meds adjusted fool.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   16:26:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: sneakypete (#24)

*Hypocrisy and Hypocrites*

Did you make sure that you pinged yourself?

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   16:28:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Mad Dog (#101)

I'm sure it will fit right in with the rest of your Sarah dolls.

Bickus Dickus  posted on  2009-12-26   16:35:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: sneakypete (#29)

While the messiah "king" obammy is busy KILLING America all day EVERY day, this specious bullsh!t is what the jealous paulTARD weeps and his ilk find "important". Did she say or write those things,or not?

Yes,or no?

Attacking Ron Paul ain't going to bail you out on this one. He has nothing to do with this unless you think he has his hand up her butt and is pulling her strings.

DID Palin say or write these things or not?

I don't know or F ing care.

I quit "fact checking" all of the lies and spins that you and your ilk spread about Governor Palin, because EVERYONE of them turned out to be nothing but a LIE or a SPIN or a HALF TRUTH.

I don't have the desire to correct PDS insane morons who I was shocked to understand now includes you on this matter.

I'm not trying to bail anyone out with the TRUTH about your failed wee hero ronniePaulie pete, it is a "koan" it is an object lesson in you paulTARD'S hypocrisy and inability to take even an instant of the treatment that Governor Palin gets all day everyday from credulous hypocrites and frauds such as YOU.

You are pitiful.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   16:36:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Mad Dog, sneakypete (#105)

(sp)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(md) I don't know or F ing care.

Priceless.

______________________________________________________________ tag ... you're it.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   16:48:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Bickus Dickus (#104)

Little dick, your posts are so much like cuntess floyds!

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-26   16:50:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Bickus Dickus (#104)

I'm sure it will fit right in with the rest of your Sarah dolls.

Photobucket

None of us are interested in your perversions dickus lickus.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   16:52:16 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Wood_Chopper (#106)

Actually I said,

"I don't know or F ing care.

I quit "fact checking" all of the lies and spins that you and your ilk spread about Governor Palin, because EVERYONE of them turned out to be nothing but a LIE or a SPIN or a HALF TRUTH.

I don't have the desire to correct PDS insane morons who I was shocked to understand now includes you on this matter.

I'm not trying to bail anyone out with the TRUTH about your failed wee hero ronniePaulie pete, it is a "koan" it is an object lesson in you paulTARD'S hypocrisy and inability to take even an instant of the treatment that Governor Palin gets all day everyday from credulous hypocrites and frauds such as YOU.

You are pitiful."

"Half truths" that's just one of your SOPs, isn't it tool?

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are pitiful."

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   16:56:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Mad Dog (#103)

*Hypocrisy and Hypocrites*

Did you make sure that you pinged yourself?

I'm not a hypocrite. I place America first,and political parties and candidates come in a distant second.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009)

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-26   17:16:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Mad Dog (#105)

DID Palin say or write these things or not?

I don't know or F ing care.

That's right,you don't. Which places you in the same blind sheep catagory as the Gorons,Clint-Roids,and Bush-Bots.

I quit "fact checking" all of the lies and spins that you and your ilk spread about Governor Palin, because EVERYONE of them turned out to be nothing but a LIE or a SPIN or a HALF TRUTH.

No,you quit checking because you don't like seeing the truth,and as you say above,you don't care if they are lies or not. You support Palin regardless of what she says or does,so you don't care.

I'm not trying to bail anyone out with the TRUTH about your failed wee hero ronniePaulie pete,

Unlike you,I don't have a political hero that running for president,and this includes Ron Paul.

Not only that but your hatred of Ron Paul does nothing to make Palin look any better. ESPECIALLY since she is to the left of Ron Paul now on illegal aliens and amnesty.

BUT....,as you admit yourself now,you don't care if she is to the left of Paul or even McLunatic now. You are going to support her regardless of what she says or does.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009)

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-26   17:23:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: sneakypete (#110)

Yes "keith" mod 2 YOU certainly ARE a hypocrite.

You "demand" that a person who is not running for anything and who has no elected position meet "standards/lithmus test" that your wittle hero ronniePaulie couldn't/didn't meet in DECADES of time in the CONgress.

You certainly are a HYPOCRITE "keith" mod 2.

You are pitiful.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   17:27:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: sneakypete (#111)

No "keith" mod 2, I said that I don't care what the PDS drooling mouth breathing pack says that she says, because unlike YOU and the rest of them I have an actual life, AND, THAT ALL SUCH PDS PROPAGANDA has repeatedly been shown to be nothing but LIES and SPINS and HALF TRUTHS.

Then you accuse me of something that I would never do, blind support for anybody "keith" mod 2.

LOL!

You are a total credulous fool and tool "keith" mod 2, you believe the enemies of America, and now you have joined them.

You are pityful "keith" mod 2.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   17:32:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Mad Dog (#112)

You "demand" that a person who is not running for anything

If she's not running for anything,WHY do you support her and what difference does it make to you WHAT she says?

and who has no elected position

Well,she DID hold a very high public office,but then she quit to write a book and go on a book-selling tour.

meet "standards/lithmus test" that your wittle hero ronniePaulie couldn't/didn't meet in DECADES of time in the CONgress.

Ron Paul isn't my hero,and even if he were,you are doing nothing but repeating lies you have heard about him. The bills he voted against he voted against because of riders attached to them and amendments made to them that would have caused even greater harm to the Republic.

BUT....,as you said about Palin,Ron Paul isn't running for president right now,so why do you care what he says or does?

Other than as a method to take attention away from your Goddess of Path to Citizenship,that is?

You certainly are a HYPOCRITE "keith" mod 2.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009)

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-26   17:35:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Mad Dog (#113)

because unlike YOU and the rest of them I have an actual life,

Sure,you do. And you spend it wiping spittle off your monitor between posts.

Then you accuse me of something that I would never do, blind support for anybody

DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me)

"I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)"

Yup,sure sounds like it.

"keith" mod 2.

Who is Keith,and who is mod 2? As far as that goes,who is mod 1?

You are a total credulous fool and tool "keith" mod 2,

Give it a rest,you blithering idiot.

you believe the enemies of America, and now you have joined them.

Guess what,Buckwheat? Palin AIN'T America. She is just another politician that adores John McCain.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009)

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-26   17:43:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: sneakypete (#114)

LOL! "keith" mod 2! Did you hurt that innocent shark when you jumped him? LOL!

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   17:57:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: sneakypete (#115)

Your prototype "keith" mod 2, is mumbling MORON aka "keith" aka moderate mammal.

LOL! "keith" mod 2! Did you hurt that innocent shark when you jumped him? LOL!

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   17:59:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Mad Dog (#109)

I don't know or F ing care.

That's how the Obama supporters saw their guy too. The fact that you're pushing Palin without knowing or caring what she has said doesn't come as a surprise.

You can't be the same Mad Dog as the one at LP. You've taken it too over the top.

______________________________________________________________ tag ... you're it.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   18:46:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Wood_Chopper (#118)

You just can't help being a complete LIAR can you pu$$y boy?

"#109. To: Wood_Chopper (#106) Actually I said,

"I don't know or F ing care.

I quit "fact checking" all of the lies and spins that you and your ilk spread about Governor Palin, because EVERYONE of them turned out to be nothing but a LIE or a SPIN or a HALF TRUTH.

I don't have the desire to correct PDS insane morons who I was shocked to understand now includes you on this matter.

I'm not trying to bail anyone out with the TRUTH about your failed wee hero ronniePaulie pete, it is a "koan" it is an object lesson in you paulTARD'S hypocrisy and inability to take even an instant of the treatment that Governor Palin gets all day everyday from credulous hypocrites and frauds such as YOU.

You are pitiful."

"Half truths" that's just one of your SOPs, isn't it tool?

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are pitiful."

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:56:52 ET Reply Trace Private Reply "

LOL!

"Half truths" that's just one of your SOPs, isn't it tool?

LMAO!

"Half truths" that's just one of your SOPs, isn't it tool?

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Half truths" that's just one of your SOPs, isn't it tool?

ROTFLMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Half truths" that's just one of your SOPs, isn't it tool?

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   19:00:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Mad Dog (#119) (Edited)

You wrote it, not me!

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   19:46:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: sneakypete (#120)

Courtesy ping. You're in my new tag line.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   19:54:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Mad Dog (#119) (Edited)

Oh, and btw,

I still don't believe you are LP's Mad Dog. You completely ignored that part of my post.

I say you're not.

You could always post at LP that you are in fact the Mad Dog that posts at LF, and send me a link to prove me wrong.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   20:03:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Wood_Chopper (#120)

You wrote it, not me!

I sure did write it, and it's true LIAR.

There is this thing called context, LIAR; then there is this concept of by not providing all of a statement or that statement's context that is considered to be a LIE, a so called HALF TRUTH LIAR.

I said,

"I don't know or F ing care.

I quit "fact checking" all of the lies and spins that you and your ilk spread about Governor Palin, because EVERYONE of them turned out to be nothing but a LIE or a SPIN or a HALF TRUTH.

I don't have the desire to correct PDS insane morons ...."

Didn't I LIAR?

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   20:13:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Wood_Chopper (#122)

LOL! you forgot to ask me if I care what you "think" dink?

I COULD do alot of things dink, but responding to your demands isn't on that list b!tch.

I sure did write it, and it's true LIAR.

There is this thing called context, LIAR; then there is this concept of by not providing all of a statement or that statement's context that is considered to be a LIE, a so called HALF TRUTH LIAR.

"I said,

"I don't know or F ing care.

I quit "fact checking" all of the lies and spins that you and your ilk spread about Governor Palin, because EVERYONE of them turned out to be nothing but a LIE or a SPIN or a HALF TRUTH.

I don't have the desire to correct PDS insane morons ...."

Didn't I LIAR?"

But thanks for proving yet again that you are nothing but a LIAR dink.

LOL!

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   20:17:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: Mad Dog (#124)

The reasons you give for not knowing what Palin has said, and not F ing caring what she has said, and still continuing to support her don't really matter.

You don't know what she's said, or hasn't said, and don't F ing care, you'll support her anyway.

We get that already, the reasons for your actions notwithstanding.

You can't be LP's Mad Dog. Every post you make here drives a nail into Palin's political life's coffin. You couldn't be turning more people away from Palin if you wanted to.

I'm not at all sure that's not your objective.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   20:32:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: Wood_Chopper (#125)

Yawn.

Once a LIAR ALWAYS a LIAR tool.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   20:45:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Mad Dog (#126) (Edited)

At least your responses are getting shorter. Can't shoot while you're taking cover, can you.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   20:51:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: Wood_Chopper (#127)

LOL!

THAT'S all that you have LIAR?

What am I "taking cover" from LIAR?

Thanks for proving, again, that you are just another LIAR.

(I bet that you don't even know how to start a chainsaw, let alone use one.)

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   21:25:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Mad Dog (#124)

Most people who find themselves in a hole quit digging.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-26   21:29:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Mad Dog (#128)

(I bet that you don't even know how to start a chainsaw, let alone use one.)

Really!?

How much wood do you "chop" with a chainsaw?

You're not LP's Mad Dog.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   21:29:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: Wood_Chopper (#121)

Courtesy ping. You're in my new tag line.

LOL! Check my modified one out.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-26   21:31:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: sneakypete (#131)

LOL! Check my modified one out.

Dern, I should've thought to include the url. Nice touch!

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   21:34:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: sneakypete (#129)

Why don't YOU "keith" mod 2?

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   21:36:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: Wood_Chopper (#130)

LOL!

It really figures that you are clueless as to even basic chainsaw use eh LIAR?

Have you ever actually even seen a chainsaw LIAR?

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   21:39:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: Mad Dog (#134) (Edited)

It really figures that you are clueless as to even basic chainsaw use eh LIAR?

So you think a chainsaw is used for "chopping" wood huh?

Here's a clue for you: You "chop" wood with an ax. You "saw" wood with a chainsaw.

Even Palin knows that.

You're not LP's Mad Dog. He knows the difference too.

Turns out I just found out you are the Mad Dog from LP. You don't know that one doesn't "chop" wood with a chainsaw???

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   21:47:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: Wood_Chopper (#135)

In in linguistics it's called "common usage" moron.

I own just four chainsaws and use just two of them every day you little pedant b!tch.

I don't know how many axes, mauls and hatchets I own, but I use one maul most every day.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   22:24:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Mad Dog (#136)

In in linguistics it's called "common usage" moron.

Yeah, sure. You can't believe the number of people around here who exclaim, "Well, I'm gonna go chop wood now with my chainsaw!" / sarcasm

People who use chainsaws don't talk about "chopping" wood with them, even in common usage.

They don't "chop" down a tree with a chainsaw, the "cut" it down.

Your statements aren't adding up.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   22:32:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: Wood_Chopper (#137)

Piss off dink.

You don't even know anybody who has ever even seen a chainsaw.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   22:44:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: Mad Dog (#138) (Edited)

You don't even know anybody who has ever even seen a chainsaw.

Palin wants amnesty for illegal aliens, and went for global warming. Now she's changed her tune on global warming, but not amnesty, to get morons like you to line up.

Lap it up, dog.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   22:55:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: Wood_Chopper (#139)

LOL!

You really are an ineffectual little ponce.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-26   23:01:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: Mad Dog (#140) (Edited)

You really are an ineffectual little ponce.

You guys aren't fooling as many as you used to.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   23:09:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: Mad Dog (#140)

Did Palin really say this on this date?:

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009)

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-26   23:28:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: Mad Dog (#102) (Edited)

Weeps you really crack me up!

YOU and the rest of your paulTARD kin don't get to define "Conservatism" or decide who is or is not a Conservative.

Boy, when you're right, you're right Mad Dog. You sure got me there.

I don't get to define conservatism OR neoconservatism.

But dictionaries do! And guess which catagory YOU and Palin fall into? LOL!

I'll give you a hint. It ain't conservative.

Have you looked up the definitions? Have you eaten any good books lately?

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   1:29:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: Wood_Chopper (#141)

What "guys" you little ineffectual ponce?

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   1:39:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: Wood_Chopper (#142)

LOL!

Do you know what doing the same thing over and over hoping for a different result defines you little ineffectual ponce?

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   1:42:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: We The People (#143)

LOL!

What is it like to allow other people to define you weeps?

What is it like to be so insecure in your own self that you NEED the approval of others weeps?

I wouldn't know.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   1:46:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: Mad Dog (#144)

What "guys" you little ineffectual ponce?

You're no longer worth answering.

I've shown others what you are. If they can't figure it out, the republic's toast.

But if they do...

Bye.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-27   2:26:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: Wood_Chopper (#147)

LOL!

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!

Once a LIAR always a LIAR, eh LIAR?

Do you even know what a chainsaw is LIAR?

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   3:29:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: Mad Dog (#146)

What is it like to allow other people to define you weeps?

What? You mean you DON'T want to talk about the dictionary definitions of political views and stances? You want to talk about ME instead?

Sorry pissy puppy, but I don't swing that way.

Well, I'm going to talk about those dictionary definitions anyway, nutjob. M'kay?

Tell us leech, what's the dictionary definition of your neoqueen's foreign policy?

Tell us leech, what is the definition of the 180 reverse of course that John Kerry tried to get away with?

Do you have the balls to answer honest questions?

I guarantee you don't. Neocons never do.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   17:06:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: We The People (#149)

"Isn't it your turn to lick the messiah "king" obammy's a$$hole, you vile libturd shill?"

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   17:23:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: weeps aka We The People (#149)

LMAO!

Hey weeps, NEWSFLASH!; the only people who use the term "neocon" are libturds and RINOS/CINOS.

"Isn't it your turn to lick the messiah "king" obammy's a$$hole, you vile libturd shill?"

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   17:26:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: Mad Dog (#150)

Do you have the balls to answer honest questions?

I guarantee you don't. Neocons never do.

I rest my case.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   17:27:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: We The People (#152)

LOL!

An "honest question"? Sure. But yours aren't "honest" are they, you vile libturd shill?

"LMAO!

Hey weeps, NEWSFLASH!; the only people who use the term "neocon" are libturds and RINOS/CINOS.

"Isn't it your turn to lick the messiah "king" obammy's a$$hole, you vile libturd shill?""

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   17:31:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: Mad Dog (#150)

"Isn't it your turn to lick the messiah "king" obammy's a$$hole, you vile libturd shill?"

LMAO!

Only in the twisted mind of a neoconservative does pointing out the leftist policy positions of a supposed conservative, equate to being a "libturd shill", as you so eloquently put it.

Please! You got nothing.

You may go now.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   17:32:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: We The People (#154)

YAWN.

""LMAO!

Hey weeps, NEWSFLASH!; the only people who use the term "neocon" are libturds and RINOS/CINOS.

"Isn't it your turn to lick the messiah "king" obammy's a$$hole, you vile libturd shill?""

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   17:34:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: Mad Dog (#155)

No puppy, conservatives also use the term 'neocon' to describe blood sucking neoleeches like you.

Put the moniker of conservative down and take 10 steps backward! Neocon nutjob.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   17:37:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: Mad Dog (#153)

An "honest question"? Sure. But yours aren't "honest" are they, you vile libturd shill?

Ok, let me rephrase it so it doesn't offend your delicate sensibilities.

What is the dictionary definition of Sarah Palin's SELF PROCLAIMED foreign policy?

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   17:42:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: We The People (#156)

LOL!

You are BUSTED weeps! you are LIAR and a vile libturd shill!

"YAWN.

""LMAO!

Hey weeps, NEWSFLASH!; the only people who use the term "neocon" are libturds and RINOS/CINOS.

"Isn't it your turn to lick the messiah "king" obammy's a$$hole, you vile libturd shill?""

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   18:01:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: weeps aka We The People (#157)

A very EASY question shill, when, where and which branch did you serve in shill?

Mine is ALL written and explained in my LP posting history, (go all the way back).

Now TRY to duck, spin, evade, deflect that very simple question shill.

(Remember that your time in the girl scouts and/or ACORN does not count shill).

We're STILL waiting for your answer to this simple honest question shill.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   18:05:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: Mad Dog (#159)

LOL! Sorry nutjob, you haven't answered anything for me yet.

There are questions up thread. I know you saw them. You want me to answer your when you haven't answered mine. You dishonorable fuck, you're acting JUST like yukon. Why would I expect anything different though.

And why are you posting the EXACT same Bullshit lines on two different forums? Are you bipolar or something?

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   18:21:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: We The People (#160)

LMAOAY shill.

"A very EASY question shill, when, where and which branch did you serve in shill?

Mine is ALL written and explained in my LP posting history, (go all the way back).

Now TRY to duck, spin, evade, deflect that very simple question shill.

(Remember that your time in the girl scouts and/or ACORN does not count shill).

We're STILL waiting for your answer to this simple honest question shill.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   18:29:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: Mad Dog (#161)

You do realize that you're copying and pasting the exact same shit on two different forums, over and over and over?

Has that really worked for you in the past? Don't you feel the least bit stupid?

Shit MD, I'm getting embarrassed FOR you. LOL!

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   18:55:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: Mad Dog (#161)

LMAOAY shill.

"A very EASY question shill, when, where and which branch did you serve in shill?

Mine is ALL written and explained in my LP posting history, (go all the way back).

Now TRY to duck, spin, evade, deflect that very simple question shill.

(Remember that your time in the girl scouts and/or ACORN does not count shill).

We're STILL waiting for your answer to this simple honest question shill.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   18:55:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: We The People (#162)

You little shill pussy, you can dish it out but you sure can't take it can you bitch?

Too bad.

"LMAOAY shill.

"A very EASY question shill, when, where and which branch did you serve in shill?

Mine is ALL written and explained in my LP posting history, (go all the way back).

Now TRY to duck, spin, evade, deflect that very simple question shill.

(Remember that your time in the girl scouts and/or ACORN does not count shill).

We're STILL waiting for your answer to this simple honest question shill."

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   19:14:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: We The People (#163)

LMAO!!!!!!

You are incapable of any original thoughts or actions aren't you, you little libturd shill bitch?

"LMAOAY shill.

"A very EASY question shill, when, where and which branch did you serve in shill?

Mine is ALL written and explained in my LP posting history, (go all the way back).

Now TRY to duck, spin, evade, deflect that very simple question shill.

(Remember that your time in the girl scouts and/or ACORN does not count shill).

We're STILL waiting for your answer to this simple honest question shill."

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   19:17:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: Mad Dog (#164)

You little shill pussy, you can dish it out but you sure can't take it can you bitch?

Too bad.

"LMAOAY shill.

"A very EASY question shill, when, where and which branch did you serve in shill?

Mine is ALL written and explained in my LP posting history, (go all the way back).

Now TRY to duck, spin, evade, deflect that very simple question shill.

(Remember that your time in the girl scouts and/or ACORN does not count shill).

We're STILL waiting for your answer to this simple honest question shill."

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   20:03:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: Mad Dog (#165)

LMAO!!!!!!

You are incapable of any original thoughts or actions aren't you, you little libturd shill bitch?

"LMAOAY shill.

"A very EASY question shill, when, where and which branch did you serve in shill?

Mine is ALL written and explained in my LP posting history, (go all the way back).

Now TRY to duck, spin, evade, deflect that very simple question shill.

(Remember that your time in the girl scouts and/or ACORN does not count shill).

We're STILL waiting for your answer to this simple honest question shill."

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   20:03:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: Mad Dog (#165)

Mine is ALL written and explained in my LP posting history, (go all the way back).

I don't give a fuck about 'yours' you freaking retard!

How many times do you have to be told something?

You need to "Change" your copy and paste, idiot!

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   20:05:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: Wood_Chopper (#125)

You can't be LP's Mad Dog. Every post you make here drives a nail into Palin's political life's coffin. You couldn't be turning more people away from Palin if you wanted to.

Actually, Mad Dog does post over on LP. Here: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=280019

#27. To: Mad Dog

(#26) Are you posting over on LF as Mad Dog? sneakypete posted on 2009-12-26 22:06:15 ET Reply Trace

#28. To: sneakypete

(#27) Yes. Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 22:07:48 ET Reply Trace

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-27   20:11:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: weeps (#167)

LOL! WEAK you little shill bitch, just like YOU are!

Thanks for the PROOF as if any more was needed that you are simply incapable of an original thought or action, and that you are nothing but a lying libturd shill.

"A very EASY question shill, when, where and which branch did you serve in shill?

Mine is ALL written and explained in my LP posting history, (go all the way back).

Now TRY to duck, spin, evade, deflect that very simple question shill.

(Remember that your time in the girl scouts and/or ACORN does not count shill).

We're STILL waiting for your answer to this simple honest question shill."

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   20:23:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: weeps (#168)

LOL! you are getting kind of "spit flecked" there, you little shill.

"A very EASY question shill, when, where and which branch did you serve in shill?

Mine is ALL written and explained in my LP posting history, (go all the way back).

Now TRY to duck, spin, evade, deflect that very simple question shill.

(Remember that your time in the girl scouts and/or ACORN does not count shill).

We're STILL waiting for your answer to this simple honest question shill."

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   20:25:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: Mad Dog (#164)

Mad Dog

You're going to get Palin for President. Yes, you will definitely get her alright. She plans to run for President and she will no doubt win because she will have the Bush family, Cheney, the Bloomberg family, and the Rothschild family in her pocket so that she does their dirty biddings. She DOES NOT represent the American people. She represents big oil industries and the Rockefeller ilk.

And she will do to you what Bush did to those who voted for him TWICE for President. Knife the American people in the back again.

History has shown to repeat itself because people like yourself are stuck in the small details of what is going on in the mainstream that you fail to see the big picture. If you would just dare to grasp the wizard of OZ's curtain, you would see that your whole conception of what Palin is is nothing but one big grand illusion. All the world is a stage and Palin is playing her part to bewitch the mass of idiots and sweetstrum them along like a violin enough to put them to sleep.

If you choose to support Palin, fine. That is your choice. But don't come whinning to the rest of us when her time comes and she does a Bush on all of us.

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-27   20:29:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: Wood_Chopper, Mad Dog (#139)

Woodchopper is correct to note that Palin is pro-amnesty. Everything that is BAD for this country and is the reason why she is unfit to be President. On page two of the article posted below, Sarah Palin is quote as saying she supports amnesty!

Read it for yourself, Mad Dog. Facts are facts. Palin is nothing but some puppet for the elitists who are working feverishly to destroy America.

Interview with Sarah Palin October 26, 2008

www.univision.com/content...534&cid=1716304&pagenum=1

www.univision.com/content...534&cid=1716304&pagenum=2

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-27   20:54:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: Mad Dog (#170)

WEAK you little shill bitch, just like YOU are!

I have told you before Nighthawk, that any time you'd like to test that assumption, in the Real World and not from behind your monitor, just let me know.

I'll even buy your plane ticket and pick you up at the airport. Or, if you prefer I'll come to you. You can even bring Dragon with you.

But I will NOT follow you, on flaming steeds, into the putrid and skanky mists of neoconservatism!

LMFAOAY!!! Neo nut job. Now cry like a baby again because you believe I've threatened you.

Loud mouthed puss.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   20:56:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: Wood_Chopper (#142)

This definitely Nighthawk, I mean Mad Dog from LP.

No one else could even pretend to be that f**king stupid.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-27   20:58:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: goldeeluckx (#172)

I don't have the gift of seeing the future, what is it like?

Maybe Ron Paul will win? Oh yeah, he quit, during a NATIONAL race. The greys were going to kidnap his kids don't ya know?

LOL!

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   20:59:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: goldeeluckx (#173)

"Dude" get some new material.

Repeatedly debunked, and proven to be nothing but a F ing a LIE.

I won't waste another instant repeating it all to a new ignorant PDS insane idiot who wants to believe the LIES.

You are free to wonder just which ignorant PDS insane idiot that I'm talking about.

(All of YOU.)

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   21:04:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: weeps (#174)

LOL! What's up weeps? Finally growing a set?

You are just so d@mned butch. /NOT

"A very EASY question shill, when, where and which branch did you serve in shill?

Mine is ALL written and explained in my LP posting history, (go all the way back).

Now TRY to duck, spin, evade, deflect that very simple question shill.

(Remember that your time in the girl scouts and/or ACORN does not count shill).

We're STILL waiting for your answer to this simple honest question shill."

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   21:07:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: Mad Dog (#176)

I do have the gift of seeing the future. And what I see happening is that the Democrats have given us this nightmarish Universal Healthcare Plan that was originally started by Hillary Clinton back in the late 90's. This has many Republicans (and some Democrats pissed off). This has pissed off many true Republicans.

As a result, the Republican Party, much to the shame of Bush that damaged their reputation, is looking for a new representative to make them appear stable in economic stances, and to get America back on its feet. The problem is, the Republican Party has been infiltrated by those who "appear" to be Republican but not in their oaths, or practice but in name only. The Republicans are looking for somebody to save their party reputation. So, it looks like Palin is the answer to their problems because she appears to be this valiant and very brave woman to take on America's problems. The problem is that Palin is very weak on her stance on WHO the enemies are that want to do harm to the U.S., and also on the fact that the illegal aliens that are flooding into this country HATE Americans. Palin's strong critics, like myself, are NOT her enemies. Palin does not have to live with these illegal aliens that come into our neighborhoods, network with Social Security workers to steal social security benefits from our veterans and hard-working Americans like myself, and other benefits. This is a big problem. I just got my social security earnings record from the social security office the other day. I have worked for 22 years and TWICE discovered that the social security office has tried to screw me out of not one year, but 5 years of work history where I not only filed tax returns but paid social security taxes. I had to bring it to their attention for the second time, otherwise if I say nothing, I'm going to get screwed out of any benefits I am entitled to and it winds up going to some illegal aliens pockets.

Palin does not have a clue. She actually believes these illegals coming into the U.S. are here to work hard. I KNOW what these people are about because I lived in their neighborhoods. They truly despise Americans. We are at war with these people. It is up to the American people to observe not what Palin says but what she does.

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-27   21:21:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: goldeeluckx (#179)

It is up to the American people to observe not what Palin says but what she does.

Holy sh!t! I actually agree with you on THAT. When are you planning on starting?

All of that "amazing power" that you have, and yet you can't even get basic facts about governor Palin correct.

I hope that your warranty is still in force.

LMAO!

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   21:26:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: Mad Dog (#180)

I've been watching Palin ever since she came into the mainstream a year ago. And the first time I saw her, my thought was, "what a breath of fresh air". Then, I started to look at WHO was supporting her, Cheney, Bush, Bloomberg, when she suddenly stepped down from her position as governor. This bothered me a great deal because I am disgusted with the Republican Party. I'm not a Democrat either. Prefer to be totally Independent.

I don't trust Palin. And my way of reading people are usually right on without mixture of personal bias. I believe Palin would make a great candidate for a leader if she didn't use this notion that because she is a female and can shoot a gun, that she is the answer to our problems. If a candidate like Palin has to demonstrate her femaleness with Americans (which is really a crutch just like affirmative-action), to get us to adore and support her, she is dead wrong. I want to know where her head is on issues with China and Russia. I want to know what she plans to do about this notion on American jobs being exported overseas. Real serious issues!

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-27   21:41:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: goldeeluckx (#181)

I believe Palin would make a great candidate for a leader if she didn't use this notion that because she is a female and can shoot a gun, that she is the answer to our problems. If a candidate like Palin has to demonstrate her femaleness with Americans (which is really a crutch just like affirmative-action), to get us to adore and support her, she is dead wrong.

If all the time that you have been following her is just for a year, you simply don't "know" shit about Governor Palin. (I don't mean that as an insult to you, but to the so called "media" et. al.)

It's NOT her that makes such things "issues", they are simply TRUE. It is all of the enemies of America and Liberty, OUR enemies, who TRY to make such things an issue.

As to wanting to know what she believes and plans to do on real serious issues, I totally agree.

But all that is out there right now is a concerted effort to destroy her and her family in any way possible.

BOTH the demonRATs AND the repukelican't hate and FEAR her.

But no one person is America's salvation.

Unquestioning hero worship is for children, mental defectives, and SLAVES.

It has NO place in America.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   22:06:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: Mad Dog (#182)

If all the time that you have been following her is just for a year, you simply don't "know" shit about Governor Palin. (I don't mean that as an insult to you, but to the so called "media" et. al.)

Unquestioning hero worship is for children, mental defectives, and SLAVES.

No insult at all and you are CORRECT! I don't know WHO this woman is at all. That's just it. I don't even know what the hell she stands for at all. She's is vague. But I do know that she is not vague on her stance on illegals coming into this country. She is for it!

And as for your statement about unquestioning hero worship, there are no hero's in my book except Jesus Christ. I have NEVER needed to look for any other. But I certainly do reserve the right to question and observe public servants.

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-27   22:23:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: goldeeluckx (#183)

But I do know that she is not vague on her stance on illegals coming into this country. She is for it!

No you certainly do NOT "know" that.

I don't personally "know" her. But I'm an Alaskan who has lived here over thirty years. I live about fifty miles north of Wasilla. Wasilla is the closest "big" town.

I have been following her career since she was on the PTA. I do know people who grew up with her.

Governor Palin has NEVER supported any such thing as allowing illegal aliens into OUR country.

During a campaign where she was the VICE presidential candidate she said that she supported a "path to citizenship". She has never defined what such a path would entail to my knowledge.

So I won't make one up for her.

If she wanted all illegals deported and then made to get into line after all people who had never invaded OUR country, THAT would be one possible path to citizenship. You have to listen and parse every frikkin word that any politician says,

OUR enemies, who want to destroy her and her family at any cost, don't want you actually THINKING.

Of course I have the advantage of knowing who and what she really is, I can relax to some extent because of her past actions which I am famiilar with from direct experience. In no way do I always agree with her, the mere idea that such a thing is a requirement to support any politician is on it's face absurd imo.

But I do trust her to do her honest best, and to always do what she says that she will do, and NOT to ever put her self interests before this nation's and people's interests.

I agree with you in the main about Our Lord, but I have millions of heros, ALL of the the "ordinary" people who work hard and honestly to support themselves, their families and their way of life are ALL my heros.

You are also completely correct in your ABSOLUTE right and DUTY to question and "try" ALL politicians.

But these brain dead know nothing bitter PDS insane idiots who attack her and her FAMILY are tools of ALL of OUR enemies, and IMO base scum. (Because they attack HER FAMILY which is beyond the pale imo).

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   22:47:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: Mad Dog (#184)

No you certainly do NOT "know" that.

See my post #173 where I cited two pages to Palin being interviewed on her stance on pro-amnesty. She is for it and even said so herself. Read it, Mad Dog. Read it again. Straight from the source. I didn't make it up. She said it herself! Those are her words. She is FOR AMNESTY. And that makes her unsuitable for the presidency. Anybody who stands FOR amnesty of illegal aliens, is a traitor! Palin, just by her own admission, is telling Americans who she represents. And its not Americans.

Let Americans read that interview for themselves. If they want to discredit the source (Univision) then somebody needs to explain how Palin's statements got in there.

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-27   23:06:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: goldeeluckx (#185)

I HAVE read it, and I have explained about a F ing million times what she said.

Hell I just explained it again to you.

You need to be able to use that thing between your ears for something more than a hat rack.

You need to be able to THINK.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-27   23:14:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: Mad Dog (#186) (Edited)

I HAVE read it, and I have explained about a F ing million times what she said.

No need to insult, Mad Dog. It's obvious that you choose to ignore the fact what she actually stated. Your initial response to those posted interviews was that the interview was a lie!

I am familiar with Univision enough to know they have been around for some time. And when they interview American diplomats, they do so for the purpose of informing their people, the Latino population, what and where our American diplomats stand on international issues concerning NAFTA-GATT, trade issues with Mexico, drug cartel issues, and of course, amnesty.

And so far, that interview remains undisputed!

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-27   23:28:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: goldeeluckx (#187)

I'm NOT insulting, I'm stating a FACT.

"A" path is not a specific phrase.

My initial response was that the interpretation of what she actually said, was, and IS, a F ing LIE.

I'm NOT going to chew your food for you, or cut the crust off of your bread for you, and neither is Governor Palin.

A basic level of intelligence and comprehension is required by a free people who wish to maintain a republic. Maybe it's too late? So many so called adults seem to be incapable of even elementary levels of deductive thought and comprehension, or intellectual honesty.

Even though I donned my rain gear before getting into this, I'm done pi$$ing into the wind on this tonight.

Thanks for being civil, and NOT spit flecked PDS insane, I really do honestly appreciate it.

Esse Quam Videri.

Mad Dog  posted on  2009-12-28   0:07:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: Mad Dog (#188)

No the fact is you cannot accept the interview as being undisputed.

Palin IS FOR AMNESTY. If its a lie, Omnivision would have been sued a long time ago for impersonating Palin and making up interviews like this to put her in a false light.

The interview remains undisputed!

And I'm going to keep that interview because I have a feeling it will suddenly "disappear" around the time Palin runs for office.

Right now, most people are unaware of where Palin stands on illegal immigration. I've noticed that even Free Republic had referenced some of her quotes but not the full interview like this one. But Univision, and to those like myself and others informed about this, are not "in the dark" about where she stands. This interview will be brought up to her in two years from now and she will have some explaining to do to the American people. You see this immigration issue is KEY as to where one's loyalty stands with Americans.

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-28   0:19:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: Mad Dog (#188) (Edited)

"A" path is not a specific phrase.

Here. From my post #173, of that interview, pg 2, I quote that interview in part [emphasized for clarity]:

As governor, how do you deal with them? Do you think they all should be deported?

There is no way that in the US we would roundup every illegal immigrant -there are about 12 million of the illegal immigrants- not only economically is that just an impossibility but that's not a humane way anyway to deal with the issue that we face with illegal immigration.

Do you then favor an amnesty for the 12 or 13 million undocumented immigrants? No, I do not. I do not. Not total amnesty. You know, people have got to follow the rules. They've got to follow the bar, and we have got to make sure that there is equal opportunity and those who are here legally should be first in line for services being provided and those opportunities that this great country provides.

To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?

I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. To seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here. It is so important that yes, people follow the rules so that people can be treated equally and fairly in this country.

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The fact is, Palin is PRO AMNESTY. And because she is pro-amnesty, she supports illegal aliens coming into this country which violates our immigration laws. We either have laws in this country or we don't! You either go by the law or you are a traitor because when you allow illegals into this country you are aiding and abetting criminal aliens and possible potential terrorists! No if ands or buts about this!

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-28   0:45:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: goldeeluckx (#190)

Do you then favor an amnesty for the 12 or 13 million undocumented immigrants? No, I do not. I do not.

The fact is, Palin is PRO AMNESTY.

What the fook don't you inderstand about, " No, I do not. I do not."? Where the hell do you claim you were educated, Mexico?

The fact is, you are lite in the loafers.

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-28   1:55:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: goldeeluckx (#189)

Palin IS FOR AMNESTY. If its a lie, Omnivision would have been sued a long time ago

You're the one who is the liar.

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-28   1:57:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#193. To: goldeeluckx (#173)

www.univision.com/content...534&cid=1716304&pagenum=2

Question:

Do you then favor an amnesty for the 12 or 13 million undocumented immigrants?

Palin:

No, I do not. I do not.

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-28   2:03:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#194. To: goldeeluckx (#173)

Palin's not in office.

Someone you support Ron Paul, is.

Dr Ron Paul has voted three times for amnesty he is against any requirements /path for illegals to stay in the U.S.
To grant, extend or continue Section 245-i amnesties for illegal aliens
Paul voted in 1997( H.R. 1885)
2001( H.R. 1885)
2002 (H RES 365)

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-28   2:06:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#195. To: goldeeluckx (#179)

I do have the gift of seeing the future.

moron.

time for the next screen name.

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-28   2:07:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#196. To: Ibluafartsky (#192) (Edited)

You're the one who is the liar.

No, but what it appears to me is that Palin is dancing around this very issue. Do I have to spell it out for you too?

To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?

I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. To seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here. It is so important that yes, people follow the rules so that people can be treated equally and fairly in this country.

Palin doesn't seem to be too concerned about immigration laws here at all. It appears flat out that she is pro-amnesty ALL THE WAY! These illegals all need to be deported! Every damn one of them. And if you have a problem with deporting illegals on this country than, you may as well be supporting those like Palin, McCain, Bush, Cheney, etc, guilty of aiding and abetting criminal aliens and potential terrorists. September 11 would NEVER have happened had we known who these people were that were in this country illegally getting access to our airplanes AND DEPORTED THEM.

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-28   2:08:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#197. To: WhiteSands (#193)

No...here's the pertinent part. They need to be deported! Palin has issues with this. See here:

"As governor, how do you deal with them? Do you think they all should be deported?

There is no way that in the US we would roundup every illegal immigrant -there are about 12 million of the illegal immigrants- not only economically is that just an impossibility but that's not a humane way anyway to deal with the issue that we face with illegal immigration."

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-28   2:10:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#198. To: goldeeluckx (#196)

Do you then favor an amnesty for the 12 or 13 million undocumented immigrants?
No, I do not. I do not. Not total amnesty. You know, people have got to follow the rules. They've got to follow the bar, and we have got to make sure that there is equal opportunity and those who are here legally should be first in line for services being provided and those opportunities that this great country provides.

To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?
I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. To seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here. It is so important that yes, people follow the rules so that people can be treated equally and fairly in this country.

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-28   2:13:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#199. To: goldeeluckx (#197)

“I do have the gift of seeing the future.”
goldeeluckx posted on 2009-12-27 21:21:22 ET

So in the future you see Sarah as president?

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-28   2:15:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#200. To: WhiteSands (#198)

Ok but do you see what Palin is doing?

SHE'S DANCING AROUND THIS! She does NOT want to commit herself to any one stance on this issue because it will haunt her when she runs for president (which she will do) McCain did the same thing.

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-28   2:15:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#201. To: WhiteSands (#199)

I see her running for President in 2012 under the Republican Party.

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-28   2:17:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#202. To: goldeeluckx (#201)

I see her running for President in 2012 under the Republican Party.

Does she win the primaries and become the parties nominee for President?

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-28   2:19:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#203. To: (#200)

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-28   2:26:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#204. To: goldeeluckx (#200)

SHE'S DANCING AROUND THIS! She does NOT want to commit herself to any one stance on this issue because it will haunt her when she runs for president (which she will do) McCain did the same thing.

Smart.

Obama, a guy that's in office, along with Pelosi and Reid are working on amnesty now.

Did you know that?

You didn't know McCain's Z Visa BS immigration position as he ran for president?

So you can only see forward.

Not the present : Obama, Pelosi, Reid.

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-28   2:26:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#205. To: goldeeluckx (#196)

No, but what it appears to me is that Palin is dancing around this very issue.

You stated she favors amnesty for illegals and that's a fookin LIE!

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-28   2:27:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#206. To: WhiteSands (#202)

Does she win the primaries and become the parties nominee for President?

Quite possibly!

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-28   2:28:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#207. To: goldeeluckx (#196)

Palin doesn't seem to be too concerned about immigration laws here at all.

What the hell are you smoking? Where were you educated? Were you educated?

What does this mean? "It is so important that yes, people follow the rules "

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-28   2:30:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#208. To: goldeeluckx (#206)

Quite possibly!

You didn't even know McCain's Immigration position.

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-28   2:30:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#209. To: WhiteSands (#204)

You didn't know McCain's Z Visa BS immigration position as he ran for president?

Yes I did know about McCain's position on immigration BEFORE he ran for president. I knew he was a phoney from the start. I never liked him at all. Never.

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-28   2:31:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#210. To: Ibluafartsky (#207)

Why don't you ask Sarah Palin!

To me, it means she's talking out of both sides of her neck. In other words, she's playing two-faced on this issue. McCain did this game too.

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-28   2:33:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#211. To: Ibluafartsky (#205)

You stated she favors amnesty for illegals and that's a fookin LIE!

What does the sentence below mean to you?

"To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?

I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. To seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here."

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-28   2:36:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#212. To: goldeeluckx (#209)

Yes I did know about McCain's position on immigration BEFORE he ran for president. I knew he was a phoney from the start. I never liked him at all. Never.

So again you wrote something you don't believe.

"SHE'S DANCING AROUND THIS! She does NOT want to commit herself to any one stance on this issue because it will haunt her when she runs for president (which she will do) McCain did the same thing."

goldeeluckx posted on 2009-12-28 2:15:39 ET

Why don't you useyour LP screen name of Tom Jackson here?

Keebler elves using your mind again?

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-28   2:36:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#213. To: goldeeluckx (#211)

I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. To seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here."

Is that her complete position as outlined at Univison and answer Tom?

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WhiteSands  posted on  2009-12-28   2:38:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#214. To: WhiteSands (#212)

When I am watching a candidate, I listen to what they say and I listen to every word they say. When McCain ran for office, I knew he was for amnesty which was why I didn't like him from the start. He was for open borders. Plain and simple.

It is my understanding that Ron Paul supports amnesty too.

I want nothing to do with a candidate that supports amnesty or open borders! I want a candidate that supports deporting illegals back to their country.

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-28   2:41:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#215. To: WhiteSands (#213) (Edited)

To be fair I refer you to post 173 where I cited that interview.

I don't have a problem understanding where Palin is on this issue. It's in black and white. But to the die hard Palin supporters, they choose to turn the other way on this issue even if its right under their nose.

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-28   2:44:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#216. To: goldeeluckx (#210)

Why don't you ask Sarah Palin!

You didn't, but you had no problem lying about what she said! I asked where or if you were educated. You failed to answer so I have to assume you haven't been educated.

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-28   3:34:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#217. To: goldeeluckx (#211)

What does the sentence below mean to you?

It does not mean amnesty. If you believe it does, you don't fookin know the definition of amnesty!

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-28   3:37:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#218. To: goldeeluckx (#215)

WhiteSands is not worth debating.

Neo-con shill, IMHO.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-28   3:38:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#219. To: Wood_Chopper, goldeeluckx (#218)

Neo-con shill, IMHO.

That's what liberals always state when they get their oversized asses handed to them.

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-28   3:42:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#220. To: Ibluafartsky (#219)

That's what liberals always state when they get their oversized asses handed to them.

Good luck with that, sport.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog) I don't know or F ing care.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2009-12-28   3:55:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#221. To: Ibluafartsky (#217) (Edited)

It's amnesty to me. Plain and simple. No bullshit about it.

Either you have a reading comprehenshion disability or you choose to feign ignorance. You are not capable of conducting a discussion without the use of personal attacks at others on this forum. Since you probably donated to help keep LP going, and are now a co-owner of that forum, take your garbage and attack practices back over to LP where the other trash continue to attack sensible good posters over there like Tom Jackson and hosts of others that you are working on to get banned next! You have absolutely no tolerance for open discussion unless it suits your agenda. I am not Tom Jackson but if they sound like what I'm posting here, they probably make a hell of a lot more sense then the sewer garbage you spewed on this very thread.

Goodday!

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-28   8:55:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#222. To: goldeeluckx (#221)

It's amnesty to me.

Since you probably donated to help keep LP going, and are now a co-owner of that forum,

you are working on to get banned next

Which just proves you are a fookin dunce.

You're a fookin conspiracy kook also.

STRIKE THREE!!!! Time to change your diaper!

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-28   16:24:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#223. To: Ibluafartsky (#222) (Edited)

If you post over on LP and contributed to keep it online than read post 28 here: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-b...tNum=279679&Disp=All&#C22

If you don't post on LP, my apologies to you and goodday. But there are posters over there that have recently contributed to that site, and now that the site owner has made them "co-owner" (read post #28), it is encouraging those same contributors to harass and bully other posters on that site for the purpose of getting them banned. Then, these same bully posters come posting their vile sewer trash on this site and http://freedum4um.com to intimidate, harass, and ignite flame wars. They do it to terrorize and demean civilized good posters. Posters like myself are onto these bully posters and their game. We recognize that they do not believe in free speech unless it suits their political gain. If you are not one of those posters doing this bullying tactic, then this should not even offend you at all. But those posters know who they are.

goldeeluckx  posted on  2009-12-28   17:38:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#224. To: goldeeluckx (#223)

read post 28 here: www.libertypost.org/cgi-b...tNum=279679&Disp=All&#C22

Then, these same bully posters come posting their vile sewer trash on this site and freedoum4um.com

We recognize that they do not believe in free speech

I did. Maybe you can translate it for me. I don't understand it.

You have no history here, so what the hell are you claiming? That other forum of dummy, racist, anti-semite assholes isn't worth the contamination!

I welcome the remarks and opinions of dummy, racist, anti-semite assholes, it exposes them for the vile pieces of shit they are. The more they spew, the more fookin idiotic they appear! You'll note that most of them congregate on certain forums to keep from getting their asses kicked.

Sneakypete, have you ever been married? Said things you later regretted?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-28   18:01:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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